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Title: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 25, 2019, 08:03:54 AM
Popular peoples in here like Baypark,star1,reviewer07 ect seem to have move on when nothings they said have come to pass. Even the rare case here that said there POI had come back, they said that if they would have gone back they would never wanted to do psychics reading. Looking at the reviews here it seem that psychics reading is not very useful in the long run, good for those people who had move on. I still hang around here because I really wanted to see if the peoples here still wait for there poi will really come back like these psychics said.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Reviewer07 on January 25, 2019, 02:03:05 PM
I’ve moved on from readings 👍🏾. Things didn’t come true for me and well I just don’t have the urge to call about anything.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 25, 2019, 02:17:07 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun. You seem to revel in other people’s sadness that none of their predictions came true. Quite sad. I hope one day you find peace.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 25, 2019, 02:30:42 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 25, 2019, 02:46:37 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun. You seem to revel in other people’s sadness that none of their predictions came true. Quite sad. I hope one day you find peace.
I can only get my sources from here and on keen. From what I gather most of the time peoples poi doesn’t come back, And most of the time the top rated psychics on keen all they do is mislead peoples
Just look at the reviews it self. Good that they work for you.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 02:48:58 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer.... positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

I agree..while it is certainly true that the majority don't have their outcomes manifest (I would guess it's probably like 85% don't, 15% do)...there are success stories which is always nice to hear.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 25, 2019, 02:49:18 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

That’s exactly how i feel. Not once has he/she said congratulations or how happy they are for the person. It’s always oh this is just the 1% percent of those that come back. Accept what happened. Forgive yourself for the part you played and them and move on. Resentment doesn’t do any good. Just a sad way to be and sad you’re blind to it.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 02:52:57 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

That’s exactly how i feel. Not once has he/she said congratulations or how happy they are for the person. It’s always oh this is just the 1% percent of those that come back. Accept what happened. Forgive yourself for the part you played and them and move on. Resentment doesn’t do any good. Just a sad way to be and sad you’re blind to it.

LMAO at he/she ;)
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 03:17:04 PM
I agree 100%.  It's a total waste of money...it's cool if you enjoy it and everything, but the majority put way too much hope and emotions into readings only to be devastated when it doesn't happen...I know, I was one of them..twice! lol..not funny but it is.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: flora0250 on January 25, 2019, 03:18:15 PM
Regardless of what the outcome is for any situation you get readings about, it is a waste of money. Getting readings doesn't change anything. It is just like gambling, except you don't even have the chance to win some of that money back. You just pay to hear someone else tell you about your life, and you can never be sure how much of it is accurate. It generates a constant undercurrent of insecurity and doubt that will keep you wanting more readings to settle those doubts, and finding all sorts of nonsensical reasons to justify why yo continue to do it. No one likes to hear any of this, but it's the truth and you can read it all over this forum.

Agree it’s definitely akin to gambling or shopping addiction except the “reward” isn’t money or things - it’s something intangible that is worse I think because whether they’re wrong or right it still messes with your head in so many ways.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 03:32:27 PM
Regardless of what the outcome is for any situation you get readings about, it is a waste of money. Getting readings doesn't change anything. It is just like gambling, except you don't even have the chance to win some of that money back. You just pay to hear someone else tell you about your life, and you can never be sure how much of it is accurate. It generates a constant undercurrent of insecurity and doubt that will keep you wanting more readings to settle those doubts, and finding all sorts of nonsensical reasons to justify why yo continue to do it. No one likes to hear any of this, but it's the truth and you can read it all over this forum.

Agree it’s definitely akin to gambling or shopping addiction except the “reward” isn’t money or things - it’s something intangible that is worse I think because whether they’re wrong or right it still messes with your head in so many ways.

Exactly.  at least with shopping, you have something to show for your money.  Lots of times with readings, all you have is false hope and it really does mess with your head.  I found myself saying, how did hundreds of psychics all get it so wrong.

Kind of killed my spirit for a while.  I only now (and I still struggle) am starting to recover....
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: flora0250 on January 25, 2019, 03:37:38 PM
Regardless of what the outcome is for any situation you get readings about, it is a waste of money. Getting readings doesn't change anything. It is just like gambling, except you don't even have the chance to win some of that money back. You just pay to hear someone else tell you about your life, and you can never be sure how much of it is accurate. It generates a constant undercurrent of insecurity and doubt that will keep you wanting more readings to settle those doubts, and finding all sorts of nonsensical reasons to justify why yo continue to do it. No one likes to hear any of this, but it's the truth and you can read it all over this forum.

Agree it’s definitely akin to gambling or shopping addiction except the “reward” isn’t money or things - it’s something intangible that is worse I think because whether they’re wrong or right it still messes with your head in so many ways.

Exactly.  at least with shopping, you have something to show for your money.  Lots of times with readings, all you have is false hope and it really does mess with your head.  I found myself saying, how did hundreds of psychics all get it so wrong.

Kind of killed my spirit for a while.  I only now (and I still struggle) am starting to recover....

I’m still not doing great but slowing down. Still struggling with how so many things have been right or actually happened and then predictions have not ... yet. So as you can see I’m still struggling. But I know it’s not how I should be spending money at all. I know it comes down to anxiety and impulse control. It’s not even heartbreak or denial of heartbreak for me personally. It’s a bigger picture thing than that I think.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Kat23 on January 25, 2019, 03:42:57 PM
I agree 100%.  It's a total waste of money...it's cool if you enjoy it and everything, but the majority put way too much hope and emotions into readings only to be devastated when it doesn't happen...I know, I was one of them..twice! lol..not funny but it is.

I agree... psychic readings do messed up with your head..it makes you wait for the prediction to come to pass which is usually 2 to 6 months away.  While your life is on hold, waiting for the unknown, he has move on..  it also messed up your relationship with your POI...you tend to believe your reader more than him or your own intuition..

Most psychic site, they indicate "for entertainment only"...  be wise..don't put too much hope, emotions on the readings and most importantly,  dont put your life on hold..
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 03:46:36 PM
I agree 100%.  It's a total waste of money...it's cool if you enjoy it and everything, but the majority put way too much hope and emotions into readings only to be devastated when it doesn't happen...I know, I was one of them..twice! lol..not funny but it is.

I agree... psychic readings do messed up with your head..it makes you wait for the prediction to come to pass which is usually 2 to 6 months away.  While your life is on hold, waiting for the unknown, he has move on..  it also messed up your relationship with your POI...you tend to believe your reader more than him or your own intuition..

Most psychic site, they indicate "for entertainment only"...  be wise..don't put too much hope, emotions on the readings and most importantly,  dont put your life on hold..

That's the scary part..so many POIs have moved on, dating others, living a whole other life while people calling psychics are waiting around.  There was that one woman on Keen that I posted about a while back that put in her FB that she has been waiting over ten years for this married man to leave his wife..and these readers are still egging her on!  It's disgusting.  Can almost guarantee that man isn't going anywhere.  And she still believes these readers..it's incredibly sad and depressing.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 25, 2019, 03:52:51 PM
I agree 100%.  It's a total waste of money...it's cool if you enjoy it and everything, but the majority put way too much hope and emotions into readings only to be devastated when it doesn't happen...I know, I was one of them..twice! lol..not funny but it is.

I agree... psychic readings do messed up with your head..it makes you wait for the prediction to come to pass which is usually 2 to 6 months away.  While your life is on hold, waiting for the unknown, he has move on..  it also messed up your relationship with your POI...you tend to believe your reader more than him or your own intuition..

Most psychic site, they indicate "for entertainment only"...  be wise..don't put too much hope, emotions on the readings and most importantly,  dont put your life on hold..

That's the scary part..so many POIs have moved on, dating others, living a whole other life while people calling psychics are waiting around.  There was that one woman on Keen that I posted about a while back that put in her FB that she has been waiting over ten years for this married man to leave his wife..and these readers are still egging her on!  It's disgusting.  Can almost guarantee that man isn't going anywhere.  And she still believes these readers..it's incredibly sad and depressing.
That very common it all over there reviews.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
It's so funny but I never had any friends in my real life go to psychics..well only one, and oddly enough, she's the one that's had a lot of bad luck in her life and failed relationships.

My one good friend since childhood looked at me like I was insane when I told her I was getting readings about first POI..she was literally like, "I hope you are not basing your life and decisions on what these people tell you"...

There's a reason why psychics are known to be a very shady industry.  Not saying there are not some that are good and ethical, or try to be, but in general, it's a laughing stock profession.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 04:24:43 PM
Oddly enough, I guess it was instinct, I never trusted psychics for any MAJOR life decisions, meaning ones having to do with my career/money.  I don't know why, maybe because deep down I know it's probably BS and not to follow their advice. I've asked, but never really trusted it.  Love stuff, eh, whatever, there will always be more options, but when it comes down to my livelihood, and my money, nope won't trust a reading for nothing.

I asked years ago a psychic about a job move, and it he felt I shouldn't make it.  He made it like it would be all doom and gloom and a huge mistake.  I did it and guess what?  Best decision I could make.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 25, 2019, 05:25:46 PM
Oddly enough, I guess it was instinct, I never trusted psychics for any MAJOR life decisions, meaning ones having to do with my career/money.  I don't know why, maybe because deep down I know it's probably BS and not to follow their advice. I've asked, but never really trusted it.  Love stuff, eh, whatever, there will always be more options, but when it comes down to my livelihood, and my money, nope won't trust a reading for nothing.

I asked years ago a psychic about a job move, and it he felt I shouldn't make it.  He made it like it would be all doom and gloom and a huge mistake.  I did it and guess what?  Best decision I could make.

Everyone is different and there's a lot of non-legit psychics out there. I would never trust one over my own intuition but I use psychics/astrologers in conjunction to it. I find astrologers better for big decisions because they mathematically see which date is best suited for something. I get that this not everyone's thing but it seems only in America its so taboo. Go to the Meditteranean or eastern countries, this is common practice

Yes I can see how it would be more common place to have readings in those places.  But just in general, for people I know, it's not common at all.  I remember mentioning to someone else that I knew that I was getting psychic readings, and they looked at me like I was a moron lol.  But I've only told a grand total of two people in my real life that I get them.  And if I told anyone that really cared about me how much I spent in the past over two loser men, they would probably send me to the nearest mental institution lol.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 25, 2019, 07:02:06 PM
I used to believe everything they said I have so much regret because of it. Should have listen to all my friends and family’s. These psychics told me they are always right and thing they said always come to pass they are not good at timing that why, lol what a jokes.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Kat23 on January 25, 2019, 09:08:42 PM

Ladya..the type of reading ..psychic and palmistry from eastern countries are totally different than one on keen... and they do not charge 3 to 5 dolla4s per min or 70 to 150 for general reading...most readers on keen are charlatans.. 

Sawthelight if anyone knew I had this psychic addiction and the obscene amount of money spent on keen and the trust I put on these charlatans over my own intuition, they would have sent me to mental institution too...

I have closed my keen account ...the reading/prediction by an eastern reader during my vacation turns out to be correct...on marriage, career, passing of my parent..(though she was off 365 days).....faith, prayer, psychic readings will not change the outcome... some things are pre destined...free will is just illusion
 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: jhuskindle on January 25, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
I’ve been seeing an accurate psychic for over 5 years. I only branched out a year and a half ago to others... tons has come true, so for me totally worth it. Best psychics are referrals from others who have had things come to pass. I’m on keen so I never fell for it, as well as kasamba.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 01:25:02 AM
I think those who are really posting depressing things, stating that "psychics are a waste of money" or that "Nothing ever had come true" or "they barely get things right", along with other negativities, are saying these things out of not any logical statistics, but out of being let down time and time again, by psychics who have failed them, whether they be fake, or just don't connect well with them. I've had a lot of luck with predictions, as have so many others. I understand the need to hold a pessimistic outlook on these kind of things; it doubles as a protection mechanism, to avoid getting heightened expectations crumpled and shot down. Fair. But I think all of these negative posts, from people, being negative, saying these things, are not only incorrect, but it's also not very good to spread this around. I'm sorry to those who have said these things, I'm sure you wanted your predictions to happen, and that sucks. It really really does, and I empathize, greatly. That must really hurt. But also realize that many of the ones you've read with were probably fake, or probably just didn't connect well with you. You see phenomenal success stories every day from psychics. I don't think getting readings is a bad thing, unless you're in debt, and struggling financially. If you're desperate, and need a check-up, to see if things are still "on the same path", that's fine. And you have the right to do so. We all have weak moments, and you shouldn't try to say what they're doing is wrong, if they're getting readings out of desperation. We're all human. I'd simply like to put my two cents in on this subject. I see a lot of negativity, usually from the same few users about psychics, posting negative statements attributed toward them, and speaking as if they're scams, or "usually incorrect". It's not black and white. They were either fake, or didn't connect well with you. And I'm sorry that had happened. You don't deserve that let down. You don't deserve having those expectations shot down. You're all great people. And you deserve the best. But I think it's not very fair to state that others getting readings, whether out of desperation, or otherwise, is wrong. Because it's not. Psychics have definitely helped me, and many others, and not just in the prediction front. They've told us how to succeed in relationships, in work, etc., warning us about what to do, and what not to do to get to where we'd like to be. So yeah. I'm sorry you didn't have great experiences with psychics, but please don't try to push the idea that it's "all for naught", and that they're "usually wrong", or that, "Odds are they won't come back", or that "no one is good with timing... NO ONE", (all which I've heard...), etc., etc., because it's unfair to those who are holding onto hope, and holding on with good reason. It's not unusual for the ex to come back, nor is it as "crazy" and "unlikely" as people here try to make it out to be... but again, it's dependent upon each individual's circumstance, and everyone is different. Sometimes, having that hope and holding onto the readings can actually lead to success with their job, their POI, etc.

Just wanted to put my two cents in. Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 02:24:05 AM
I understand the need to hold a pessimistic outlook on these kind of things; it doubles as a protection mechanism, to avoid getting heightened expectations crumpled and shot down. Fair. But I think all of these negative posts, from people, being negative, saying these things, are not only incorrect, but it's also not very good to spread this around.

I understand the need to rationalize why psychic readings didn't pan out long term for other people, and I think it is not good for people to act like it is "cool" or "fun" to get readings and downplay the destructive effects they have on most people who get them.

Well, it's only really destructive if
A) the psychic you go to is a fraud (which is the harder of the two to deal with)
B) They're in debt, and are already struggling financially.

Hell I'd go so far as to even say it's okay to get many reading if you're addicted, and have the funds. Getting a reading out of desperation is fine, provided you've got the funds. It helps calm and soothe the heart. Or if you get bad news, and it's a trusted (and real) reader, then you've got what's really going on, and can move forward with your life.

It actually can be cool and fun, and it's totally fine for others to think that way, provided they've got the money. I don't see why that's anyone else's business but their own. And they're only destructive when they're fake, or are just absolute garbage with their predictions, or don't connect well with the individual. And to say that it's destructive for MOST people, is not a very logical viewpoint. It really depends on the individual and how they connect with their reader. How destructive it is, vs, how helpful it is, depends on the person and how they connect to the psychic. I think it's wrong to assume that 'most psychics are wrong', when certain readers have proven themselves time and time again, and while they can certainly be wrong, why be pessimistic about this? It just creates fear, anxiety and worry in those who are awaiting predictions (that could very well come true). I think it's not only very unhealthy, but also quite mean to push negativity or pessimism on someone with hope. While you (not you in particular, I mean 'you' as in the person in this situation) may see it as being helpful, it can be the "break it", in the "make it or break it", to somebody who's predictions would otherwise actually had happened.

I think the best thing to do is stay optimistic, especially if you've already connected well to a reader, and/or had predictions pass. Otherwise, just stay neutral, with hope. Gearing a little more toward the optimistic side of things isn't bad. It's certainly more healthy than leaning toward pessimism. Not to say that holding onto hope with all of your heart for 20 years for a POI to return is healthy either. You've just got to find this balance, and a little touch of extra optimism hurts nobody. But a lot of pessimism and negativity regarding psychics can definitely hurt others in the long run, even if they're just trying to help them to not 'be hurt in the long run'. I can see it from both sides, but I think the negativity toward psychics hurt those who are here, looking for support, or waiting for predictions to pass, far more than optimism will. Not to mention the fact that just being pessimistic about things, can really cause unhappiness in the life of onesself, and the person reading the negativity. I have this one 'friend' who will nitpick, and choose the silliest things to complain about, and while he sees it as him being "realistic", it's simply just him being negative, and it really does affect others, and brings the vibe down. I think it's best to stay optimistic, or give hope, or spread happiness, while on a public forum. Now we're all entitled to our own opinions, but you've got to realize that the negativity can really really be harmful, and hurt those with hope, who may just have their predictions pass. And like I said, provided one has the funds, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being desperate and looking for hope, thereby getting yet another reading, and asking repeat questions, to get a re-confirmation. If one has the funds, then so what, right? That doesn't affect anyone else but them. You know? And if the predictions pan out, that's the thing that kept them going. Take care:)

Just my two cents.

I understand the need to hold a pessimistic outlook on these kind of things; it doubles as a protection mechanism, to avoid getting heightened expectations crumpled and shot down. Fair. But I think all of these negative posts, from people, being negative, saying these things, are not only incorrect, but it's also not very good to spread this around.

I understand the need to rationalize why psychic readings didn't pan out long term for other people, and I think it is not good for people to act like it is "cool" or "fun" to get readings and downplay the destructive effects they have on most people who get them.

Alcohol can be destructive too does that mean drinking is wrong? To one person, a drink is enough, another it can cost them their life. Same with drugs. Same with gambling. Its not about the psychic readings its about how an individual uses them. One person can have a drink every night and be fine and another becomes an alcoholic. Eating can be destructive too. Should we just not eat then. Its the addiction behind the doing not the actual thing.


Oh my god I LOVE this analogy! That is very very good!!:)
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Miss Philosopher on January 26, 2019, 03:44:40 AM
Just wanted to chime in, even though I shouldn't lol. As others have mentioned, I feel the creator of this post feels very let down because none of her readings manifested. I could definitely understand the jaded outlook there.

Some food for though though @psychicgirl, is that perhaps it is your negativity that is creating a very negative vibe and you are actually unintentionally pushing people away from you. The POI's or the ex's or whoever it is you have called about. Your energy honestly feels very bitter and that is an energy that people will run from. Maybe the man/men you have called about can feel that energy emanating from your being even from a distance when there isn't any or hasn't been any contact for long periods of time. This is usually why ex's or poi's end up reappearing........once a person has moved on and doesn't carry that same energy with them or has made a choice to just release it.

Positivity is a very alluring and attractive energy to carry. That is when people start coming toward you, whether it be new or old. Maybe you should think about perhaps working on releasing your bitterness and transforming it into strength and positivity. Uplifting others really helps with that. Self love helps with that. Positive affirmations help, uplifting music, a good diet, pampering yourself etc. Ask for help releasing the negative emotions and thoughts you have and you will receive it. And then, you will attract better things to yourself and even your readings may change around and start to manifest should you choose to receive any further readings.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that you're able to find peace and release your pain. Sending you love and healing <3
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 03:47:11 AM
Just wanted to chime in, even though I shouldn't lol. As others have mentioned, I feel the creator of this post feels very let down because none of her readings manifested. I could definitely understand the jaded outlook there.

Some food for though though @psychicgirl, is that perhaps it is your negativity that is creating a very negative vibe and you are actually unintentionally pushing people away from you. The POI's or the ex's or whoever it is you have called about. Your energy honestly feels very bitter and that is an energy that people will run from. Maybe the man/men you have called about can feel that energy emanating from your being even from a distance when there isn't any or hasn't been any contact for long periods of time. This is usually why ex's or poi's end up reappearing........once a person has moved on and doesn't carry that same energy with them or has made a choice to just release it.

Positivity is a very alluring and attractive energy to carry. That is when people start coming toward you, whether it be new or old. Maybe you should think about perhaps working on releasing your bitterness and transforming it into strength and positivity. Uplifting others really helps with that. Self love helps with that. Positive affirmations help, uplifting music, a good diet, pampering yourself etc. Ask for help releasing the negative emotions and thoughts you have and you will receive it. And then, you will attract better things to yourself and even your readings may change around and start to manifest should you choose to receive any further readings.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that you're able to find peace and release your pain. Sending you love and healing <3

Ahh!!! I love this so much!!!!!!:)
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 03:53:27 AM
Well, it's only really destructive if
A) the psychic you go to is a fraud (which is the harder of the two to deal with)
B) They're in debt, and are already struggling financially.

That's a very black and white view. Getting readings is a slippery slope where many different things can go wrong. Many readers are not frauds, they have real abilities, and they get enough things right so the client begins to trust them. But things can go wrong at any time, they may stop connecting, or they may get things right short term but totally miss the ultimate outcome. Financially, you could be in good shape and not spending more than you can afford. But then something else could happen that sets you back financially, and then all that money you spent on readings, probably should have been put in savings instead.

The point is that llife is unpredictable, and getting readings does not change that. It does not prepare you for what will happen, the way you think it will. Many people have come back here and shared stories of being horribly blindsided by something because readings did not give them the truth. I was fortunate not to have had that happen, my predictions simply didn't pan out. But as I have said before...even if every single prediction had come to pass, it still would have been a waste of money.

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Hell I'd go so far as to even say it's okay to get many reading if you're addicted, and have the funds. Getting a reading out of desperation is fine, provided you've got the funds. It helps calm and soothe the heart. Or if you get bad news, and it's a trusted (and real) reader, then you've got what's really going on, and can move forward with your life.

Hmm. Well I'm not here to put parameters on when it is okay to get readings, like you are doing. What people want to do or choose to do is up to them. I share my experience and my perspective, and others can take it or leave it. If you think it is "not fair" for me to do that then maybe you're giving too much power to what I have to say.

Aaaaand...here we go:

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I think it's wrong to assume that 'most psychics are wrong', when certain readers have proven themselves time and time again, and while they can certainly be wrong, why be pessimistic about this? It just creates fear, anxiety and worry in those who are awaiting predictions (that could very well come true). I think it's not only very unhealthy, but also quite mean to push negativity or pessimism on someone with hope. While you (not you in particular, I mean 'you' as in the person in this situation) may see it as being helpful, it can be the "break it", in the "make it or break it", to somebody who's predictions would otherwise actually had happened.

So um, what you're saying is, you think that being honest about a bad experience with readings could stop someone else's predictions from happening?

That is about five too many levels of insane for me to try to reason with. Not wasting my time. Life will definitely teach you a good lesson on that one sooner or later. Probably sooner.

Nah, I just think you're really negative, and kind of cynical. And you should try not to be. Try to have a more optimistic outlook on things. Not only will it stop your negativity from affecting others, and bringing them down, but you'll feel better too. You're clearly a very cynical and pessimistic, sad, and angry individual, and you show it often. I mean just look at your reply. It is so filled with hatred, and out of nowhere, too. You're trying to spin every little thing that's said into something negative. I feel sorry for you. But there's good news, you can change. You can be better. You can be kinder, and not so filled with hatred, anger, and self-loathing. Are you going to continue wallowing in your pity party or are you going to grow from it, and pull out of that place of sadness, and hating yourself, and stop pushing your negativity onto others? Because you ARE a very negative and cynical person. And you're showing it, and it's affecting others. You're certainly not somebody people would want to be associated with, if you act like this with anybody else. I think you should take a look at how you're acting, instead of throwing about insults toward others who are just stating their point of views, trying to live a happy life. I think you're far more 'insane' than I am. It's sad, really. But I digress. You can choose to be a better YOU, or you can continue to be the obnoxious self-loathing, sad, angry little person who you currently are.

So are you up for the challenge? To be better? To FEEL better? And stop being so negative and spiteful?


Because I believe in you! You can do it! YEAH!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 26, 2019, 03:54:33 AM
Just wanted to chime in, even though I shouldn't lol. As others have mentioned, I feel the creator of this post feels very let down because none of her readings manifested. I could definitely understand the jaded outlook there.

Some food for though though @psychicgirl, is that perhaps it is your negativity that is creating a very negative vibe and you are actually unintentionally pushing people away from you. The POI's or the ex's or whoever it is you have called about. Your energy honestly feels very bitter and that is an energy that people will run from. Maybe the man/men you have called about can feel that energy emanating from your being even from a distance when there isn't any or hasn't been any contact for long periods of time. This is usually why ex's or poi's end up reappearing........once a person has moved on and doesn't carry that same energy with them or has made a choice to just release it.

Positivity is a very alluring and attractive energy to carry. That is when people start coming toward you, whether it be new or old. Maybe you should think about perhaps working on releasing your bitterness and transforming it into strength and positivity. Uplifting others really helps with that. Self love helps with that. Positive affirmations help, uplifting music, a good diet, pampering yourself etc. Ask for help releasing the negative emotions and thoughts you have and you will receive it. And then, you will attract better things to yourself and even your readings may change around and start to manifest should you choose to receive any further readings.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that you're able to find peace and release your pain. Sending you love and healing <3

Ahh!!! I love this so much!!!!!!:)

I second this!!! So true. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Miss Philosopher on January 26, 2019, 04:00:35 AM
Thanks guys. I just feel this poster's pain. It's really saddening. I really do hope she finds a way to heal. I was stuck in a really bad cycle of negativity for almost an entire year. My thoughts were bitter and angry, my heart was so broken etc. It was a very hard time. So I get how this person is most likely feeling. But then, I made a willful choice that I was sick and tired of feeling that way, even though it took me almost a year to get to that point (everyone moves at their own pace in life). But the moment I decided to change all that around........after about a month..........I just felt completely different and like a thousand pounds was lifted. That's what it feels like to release all that negativity. It's such a heavy load to carry. Love to all you beautiful souls <3
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 04:09:13 AM
Alcohol can be destructive too does that mean drinking is wrong? To one person, a drink is enough, another it can cost them their life. Same with drugs. Same with gambling. Its not about the psychic readings its about how an individual uses them. One person can have a drink every night and be fine and another becomes an alcoholic. Eating can be destructive too. Should we just not eat then. Its the addiction behind the doing not the actual thing.

Alcohol opens you up to demonic energies. My body has an intolerance to alcohol. I did a fair amount of drinking before I realized that,  and it damaged my gut. Since then I have changed a lot and I don't like to be around people who drink. It has little to do with whether or not someone is an "alcoholic" in the conventional sense of the word. I dislike the way people act when they are drinking, and I find the odor very distasteful, and the energy of it just feels bad to me. And I think people who drink any amount tend to have problems coping with reality, just like people who get readings, but worse they often use alcohol as an excuse to do things they wouldn't get away with sober. So yes, for me it is bad. Not so much a question of "wrong" because I don't look at it that way. I just don't see much value in consuming alcohol, other than maybe just rare and minimal medicinal purposes.

As with readings, if people want to drink and feel good in themselves about doing it, I don't see why my opinion should bother them. But I think people get into a lot of this "right or wrong" kind of thing when they are not really happy with themselves for doing something.

Just pointing out that this user called me "insane", when I was stating an optimistic point of view *cough*lookattheboldedsentence*cough*. Anyway, I'm out of this thread. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life. You're not worthy of my time nor energy. And sure as hell not deserving of my time nor my energy. You don't deserve that. Anyway, she's far too negative and sad. I hope you learn to be better so that you can feel better soon, ST.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 05:19:08 AM
Don’t put your guys belief into me. I don’t believe in any of those stuffed. Timed and timed again peoples have put psychics ability to the test on live television and they always have failed.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 10:22:37 AM
Well, it's only really destructive if
A) the psychic you go to is a fraud (which is the harder of the two to deal with)
B) They're in debt, and are already struggling financially.

That's a very black and white view. Getting readings is a slippery slope where many different things can go wrong. Many readers are not frauds, they have real abilities, and they get enough things right so the client begins to trust them. But things can go wrong at any time, they may stop connecting, or they may get things right short term but totally miss the ultimate outcome. Financially, you could be in good shape and not spending more than you can afford. But then something else could happen that sets you back financially, and then all that money you spent on readings, probably should have been put in savings instead.

The point is that llife is unpredictable, and getting readings does not change that. It does not prepare you for what will happen, the way you think it will. Many people have come back here and shared stories of being horribly blindsided by something because readings did not give them the truth. I was fortunate not to have had that happen, my predictions simply didn't pan out. But as I have said before...even if every single prediction had come to pass, it still would have been a waste of money.

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Hell I'd go so far as to even say it's okay to get many reading if you're addicted, and have the funds. Getting a reading out of desperation is fine, provided you've got the funds. It helps calm and soothe the heart. Or if you get bad news, and it's a trusted (and real) reader, then you've got what's really going on, and can move forward with your life.

Hmm. Well I'm not here to put parameters on when it is okay to get readings, like you are doing. What people want to do or choose to do is up to them. I share my experience and my perspective, and others can take it or leave it. If you think it is "not fair" for me to do that then maybe you're giving too much power to what I have to say.

Aaaaand...here we go:

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I think it's wrong to assume that 'most psychics are wrong', when certain readers have proven themselves time and time again, and while they can certainly be wrong, why be pessimistic about this? It just creates fear, anxiety and worry in those who are awaiting predictions (that could very well come true). I think it's not only very unhealthy, but also quite mean to push negativity or pessimism on someone with hope. While you (not you in particular, I mean 'you' as in the person in this situation) may see it as being helpful, it can be the "break it", in the "make it or break it", to somebody who's predictions would otherwise actually had happened.

So um, what you're saying is, you think that being honest about a bad experience with readings could stop someone else's predictions from happening?

That is about five too many levels of insane for me to try to reason with. Not wasting my time. Life will definitely teach you a good lesson on that one sooner or later. Probably sooner.

I agree tired. Don’t even bother trying to rationalize or talk common sense into him. He acts like he’s so helpful and caring, while in actuality it’s probably just deep denial and he doesn’t like hearing any other points of view.  Actually encouraging another poster in a different thread to hang on and wait for her predictions with a man who just told her he was interested in someone else.

It’s incredibly sad.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 12:56:24 PM
I agree tired. Don’t even bother trying to rationalize or talk common sense into him. He acts like he’s so helpful and caring, while in actuality it’s probably just deep denial and he doesn’t like hearing any other points of view.  Actually encouraging another poster in a different thread to hang on and wait for her predictions with a man who just told her he was interested in someone else.

It’s incredibly sad.

Wow, I didn't even see where he did that. Really dangerous and irrational behavior. It's just fake to say these supposedly "positive" things but lace it with insults, projection, and emotionally abusive comments. Fortunately it rolls right off of me, but I feel bad for anyone else he targets with this nonsense.

I know. I can see right through that stuff.

I’m still convinced the third one is him. He got banned from sps. Also this thread sounds just like him

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/024291.html


Notice how he argues with everyone who tells him negative news.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 26, 2019, 01:12:19 PM
Just wanted to chime in, even though I shouldn't lol. As others have mentioned, I feel the creator of this post feels very let down because none of her readings manifested. I could definitely understand the jaded outlook there.

Some food for though though @psychicgirl, is that perhaps it is your negativity that is creating a very negative vibe and you are actually unintentionally pushing people away from you. The POI's or the ex's or whoever it is you have called about. Your energy honestly feels very bitter and that is an energy that people will run from. Maybe the man/men you have called about can feel that energy emanating from your being even from a distance when there isn't any or hasn't been any contact for long periods of time. This is usually why ex's or poi's end up reappearing........once a person has moved on and doesn't carry that same energy with them or has made a choice to just release it.

Positivity is a very alluring and attractive energy to carry. That is when people start coming toward you, whether it be new or old. Maybe you should think about perhaps working on releasing your bitterness and transforming it into strength and positivity. Uplifting others really helps with that. Self love helps with that. Positive affirmations help, uplifting music, a good diet, pampering yourself etc. Ask for help releasing the negative emotions and thoughts you have and you will receive it. And then, you will attract better things to yourself and even your readings may change around and start to manifest should you choose to receive any further readings.

I wish you the best of luck and hope that you're able to find peace and release your pain. Sending you love and healing <3


ANNNND.... mic drop, exit left!  perfectly written....
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 26, 2019, 01:19:36 PM
Furthermore - what @josh34 and @ladya says regarding many successful people using readers/psychics is true!  The problem is people who go on binges and call 5 psychics a day regarding the SAME topic and obsess about it!  If you can control it and use the Yona's and Kishas and call a few times a year... that keeps vibrations up!  Many. Many readers will even tell you that if you get too many readings (especially on the same subject) that they wont manifest...  I very much believe in LOA and manifesting on my own, I also believe each time I call it lowers my vibration a bit....
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
To the peoples who said there many great story of other poi coming back from psychics reading where did you get your sources from?
All I get from here is that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome for them and their poi didn't come back. And on Keen all I see on is thanks you put me at ease. And you never heard from them again if these peoples poi did come back don't you think they would come back and said thanks my poi came back? but you rarely see those reviews on keen too.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 26, 2019, 01:29:34 PM
To the peoples who said there many great story of other poi coming back from psychics reading where did you get your sources from?
All I get from here is that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome for them and their poi didn't come back. And on Keen all I see on is thanks you put me at ease. And you never heard from them again if these peoples poi did come back don't you think they would come back and said thanks my poi came back? but you rarely see those reviews on keen too.


Or they got their outcome and went about their life? Lol. I wouldn’t come back to get a reading with someone just to tell them they’re right. I’d email them or something esp if it’s after the 2 week period. I think you need to take the advice miss philosopher gave and practice some self love and let go of all the resentment and hurt. The only person it’s going to hold back is you. People can feel the energy of resentment from you and all the posts you make. Forgive yourself, them, your poi and move on. If psychic ability doesn’t exist, why are you on a review forum for psychics.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 01:34:31 PM
To the peoples who said there many great story of other poi coming back from psychics reading where did you get your sources from?
All I get from here is that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome for them and their poi didn't come back. And on Keen all I see on is thanks you put me at ease. And you never heard from them again if these peoples poi did come back don't you think they would come back and said thanks my poi came back? but you rarely see those reviews on keen too.


Or they got their outcome and went about their life? Lol. I wouldn’t come back to get a reading with someone just to tell them they’re right. I’d email them or something esp if it’s after the 2 week period. I think you need to take the advice miss philosopher gave and practice some self love and let go of all the resentment and hurt. The only person it’s going to hold back is you. People can feel the energy of resentment from you and all the posts you make. Forgive yourself, them, your poi and move on. If psychic ability doesn’t exist, why are you on a review forum for psychics.
That why we don't know we can only get our sources here and timed and timed again they have been wrong on the big outcome.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 02:04:03 PM
I don’t read either one much anymore either..sps or Linda Goodman...they don’t seem very active anymore , used to find more helpful information on there a few years ago.

Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 26, 2019, 02:12:33 PM
To the peoples who said there many great story of other poi coming back from psychics reading where did you get your sources from?
All I get from here is that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome for them and their poi didn't come back. And on Keen all I see on is thanks you put me at ease. And you never heard from them again if these peoples poi did come back don't you think they would come back and said thanks my poi came back? but you rarely see those reviews on keen too.


Or they got their outcome and went about their life? Lol. I wouldn’t come back to get a reading with someone just to tell them they’re right. I’d email them or something esp if it’s after the 2 week period. I think you need to take the advice miss philosopher gave and practice some self love and let go of all the resentment and hurt. The only person it’s going to hold back is you. People can feel the energy of resentment from you and all the posts you make. Forgive yourself, them, your poi and move on. If psychic ability doesn’t exist, why are you on a review forum for psychics.
That why we don't know we can only get our sources here and timed and timed again they have been wrong on the big outcome.

First if all, there are positive stories on this board of things psychics have said coming true, plenty of them actually...
Secondly, there is sooooo much truth in letting go and moving on and ppl coming back once you have.  So once ppl have moved on with their life and POI comes back in their life (and then we decide if we want them or not) - it isnt typically 2 months later but maybe like a year after weve stopped obsessing and calling and posting!  I dont think most people come back and post!  Someone recently did come back to post and everyone thanked them for it!  When they did - I wrote a post about it!  This is human nature....  For example, when you buy a product and it is amazing STILL 6 months later how often do you think, "I am so happy I think I'll stop what Im doing, to make sure and post a review about this product to help others?"  ahhhhh.... but if something doesnt work well, many times people will be angry enough to post as many negative reviews as they can.  It's why statistics on reviews cant always be trusted! 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 26, 2019, 02:34:07 PM
He’s not the third one. Third one has an account here and third one spoke highly of ari on one of the other forums but josh said he never connected with her. There’s a lot of other nuances that show he’s not him. They don’t really write similarly either.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 02:38:03 PM
I love writing reviews for all kinds of things, restaurants, stores, clothes, cosmetics....it’s always helpful to hear others opinions.

As far as readings, we are all entitled to believe what we like.   I just don’t like when people share unhealthy patterns and relationships and are being told to hang on...he might come back and realize what he lost..that’s just not good advice imo.

Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 02:44:42 PM
He’s not the third one. Third one has an account here and third one spoke highly of ari on one of the other forums but josh said he never connected with her. There’s a lot of other nuances that show he’s not him. They don’t really write similarly either.

Seriously?  I just pulled this off sps:


st want to mention that I really hope her predictions come to pass for you! I mean if they are positive! You deserve that! I know how the stress from this whole thing can be. And it could be assumption, but I've read through every page of this on this thread and another forum a long time ago, and it's clear that at least a good amount of people simply fit predictions. For example, "A person of authority will try and talk down to you". That's the kind of prediction Yona tends to give. I think she reads the cards as a story which while nice, is a mistake, because it tends to be broad. She doesn't use her intuition in such a way that similar psychics do. It leads to very general reads. For the previous example, she'll see, "The Emporor", along with a few other cards, and read it as, "A person of authority will try and talk down to you". So this could mean so many different things. A father, a policeman, a professor, a manager, etc. And whenever any small thing like that happens, someone's alarm goes off in their head, and they claim, "She's so good! She did it!" when in reality, odds are that "a person" who acts "authoritative" (could mean law-wise, or simply just cocky) talks in a condescending tone. I'm just stating this because it's fairly worrisome how many people take such general statements and make them fit. I've seen countless times of people coming back and rewriting, "Oh that wasn't it. I was mistaken. But THIS is definitely it", and then they come back again to restate a similar event. Especially with people on this board, I think they hold a level of denial and (for the lack of a better term...) "reading-lust" for Yona, and give her far more allowances than she deserves. With that said, however, she's good! While most of what she had told me is general, she did get some very specific things in the crystal, that I've still got to wait and see if they play out. And that was not general. And while "reading" me, she did get things without me telling her. I just think her supposed "accuracy of 95%" or whatever people like to give her is just kind of an overestimation of her abilities. Don't get me wrong, she's not only an amazing person, but she can read the cards. She can. I think she's just not as accurate or amazing as people here like to believe. I think if one gives her the benefit of the doubt on very specific things, well, one should do for every other psychic as well. However, with that, you'd see their "accuracy" skyrocket. I did also read a long time ago, earlier on, that she'd predict things such as, "A woman with long black hair will try to interfere, and flirt with your husband but he holds his ground and she won't be a problem", etc. But the outcome was unfortunately, not what she had predicted, but the opposite. So at least what she was "getting", while specific, would kind of be quite the guess. So she's got an ability, that's for sure! She just gets far too many people (on this site, mostly) "not wanting her to be wrong", and so they hold that "reading-lust" for her, and give her an ungodly amount of allowances, simply because "She's Yona". I have had much better success with another reader, who I can ask questions to, and they oddly get specific times an exact sentence will come out of somebody's mouth, for example. They will get when a specific event will occur, what will occur, etc., and even pick up on things they couldn't possibly guess, far ahead of time. I think Yona is "good" level, whereas some others are "holy fuck" level. For me, Gaylene has been ridiculously accurate, as have a few others (for example, the one I've spoken of above, but they're local, and I'd rather avoid giving away my location). Like you said no one psychic will connect to every single person, or get it 100% correct, unfortunately. And I'm sorry! I read that in kind of a defensive tone. I apologize. My whole point is, people on this forum give her much more allowances than any reader should have, and try to make predictions fit because they're so vague, and unfortunately, while she has a gift and can be specific at times, she is mostly "vague" and the people here do try to fit her predictions FAR too often, than is acceptable. But I wish you luck on your ventures, and I pray that her predictions come to pass for you! As I said, she's not "bad" by any means! My post is more geared toward the people here who desperately and ignorantly try to make predictions fit.


sounds just like Josh to me.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 26, 2019, 02:58:10 PM
I love writing reviews for all kinds of things, restaurants, stores, clothes, cosmetics....it’s always helpful to hear others opinions.

As far as readings, we are all entitled to believe what we like.   I just don’t like when people share unhealthy patterns and relationships and are being told to hang on...he might come back and realize what he lost..that’s just not good advice imo.

I absolutely agree with this. I also don’t believe readers are miracle workers!  I don’t know statistically how often their predictions are correct. I actually don’t get readings myself anymore (mostly because I don’t feel like I need them, I manifest my own life and am okay with whatever plays out). So far Yonas timeline is playing out exactly how she told me so yes I believe she is real! 

Regarding the post on the vent - I don’t read a lot of reviews on things. Details are not my personality but again proof that nothing is 100% all the time and not for everyone! 

I agree about the unhealthy patterns... there have been a handful of those ppl on here and they seem to jump on and quickly leave as well. Whether you call a psychic or not most poi’s (esp men) will re enter your life at some point but I think it’s the timelines that can be thrown off by readings.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 03:13:18 PM
I love writing reviews for all kinds of things, restaurants, stores, clothes, cosmetics....it’s always helpful to hear others opinions.

As far as readings, we are all entitled to believe what we like.   I just don’t like when people share unhealthy patterns and relationships and are being told to hang on...he might come back and realize what he lost..that’s just not good advice imo.

I absolutely agree with this. I also don’t believe readers are miracle workers!  I don’t know statistically how often their predictions are correct. I actually don’t get readings myself anymore (mostly because I don’t feel like I need them, I manifest my own life and am okay with whatever plays out). So far Yonas timeline is playing out exactly how she told me so yes I believe she is real! 

Regarding the post on the vent - I don’t read a lot of reviews on things. Details are not my personality but again proof that nothing is 100% all the time and not for everyone! 

I agree about the unhealthy patterns... there have been a handful of those ppl on here and they seem to jump on and quickly leave as well. Whether you call a psychic or not most poi’s (esp men) will re enter your life at some point but I think it’s the timelines that can be thrown off by readings.

I agree. They do seem to re-enter (men). In the end it’s up to us whether or not to take them back.

My point was just don’t let someone crap all over you and then think it’s ok to come back like nothing happened. There needs to be some self respect we all should have.

I had a guy come back after really doing me wrong. He admitted what he did to me was the biggest mistake of his life and we dated for a while after that. Didn’t work out for other reasons but I don’t regret giving him another chance.

But first POI I called about never admitted his faults and I just kep letting him come back and do the same crap. I just hate to see anyone else do this.

Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: jhuskindle on January 26, 2019, 03:23:34 PM
I just have to chime in that I can’t handle being on sps, I don’t know if it’s the people or the way they post or the colors but it actually makes me feel anxious or stressed. A few of you guys here have stress energy, that’s common, but when reading the reviews there it’s literally everyone.

As far as psychics, they can’t prove on tv, or haven’t because of the restrictiveness of psychic gifts. It’s a weird esoteric thing not even readers fully under but I’ll be damned, I walked down a cobblestone path to a garden with Roman statues, and beautiful rustic windows. My psychic saw it 6mo in advance.
And I’ll be damned things happened to the day for other psychics and everything they said over the last year came to pass, things I didn’t believe.

Call it self fulfilling prophecy but I’d rather know than not know because they helped me at some of the lowest times in life, thinking there was no hope, they assured me there was and there would be statues on the other side. Which has beeen true.

I’ve had spot on readings for 5 years and only recently branched out to find more readers. Tons of people came back to give good reviews and said everything pans out for tons of readers. Look a Yona thread on sps and here if you don’t believe me. You seem to be missing the pages of positive reviews in saying no one this no one that.

But reality is if you go on thta good too you don’t NEED psychics. Money could be better spent on therapy, but for those of us that do both there is nothing wrong with it if the psychic is tried and tested for the individual.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 03:28:49 PM
Yea sps can have a very cliquish vibe I can see that. 

I agree that there’s nothing wrong with readings IF you can take them with a grain of salt and not invest too much emotional energy into them. Unfortunately, I put too much faith into them and was extremely let down, for the most part.

And like someone else said, even if I did end up with the guy, I still don’t think it’s worth all the money I spent. Life is more fun not knowing, IMO.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: jhuskindle on January 26, 2019, 03:31:04 PM
Yea sps can have a very cliquish vibe I can see that. 

I agree that there’s nothing wrong with readings IF you can take them with a grain of salt and not invest too much emotional energy into them. Unfortunately, I put too much faith into them and was extremely let down, for the most part.

And like someone else said, even if I did end up with the guy, I still don’t think it’s worth all the money I spent. Life is more fun not knowing, IMO.

Fair enough. I always joke if we offered the guys the money we spent on psychics they would surely go on dates with us again lol
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 03:33:30 PM
Yea sps can have a very cliquish vibe I can see that. 

I agree that there’s nothing wrong with readings IF you can take them with a grain of salt and not invest too much emotional energy into them. Unfortunately, I put too much faith into them and was extremely let down, for the most part.

And like someone else said, even if I did end up with the guy, I still don’t think it’s worth all the money I spent. Life is more fun not knowing, IMO.

Fair enough. I always joke if we offered the guys the money we spent on psychics they would surely go on dates with us again lol

Lmaoooooo!! 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: britbrat on January 26, 2019, 03:59:01 PM


First if all, there are positive stories on this board of things psychics have said coming true, plenty of them actually...
Secondly, there is sooooo much truth in letting go and moving on and ppl coming back once you have.  So once ppl have moved on with their life and POI comes back in their life (and then we decide if we want them or not) - it isnt typically 2 months later but maybe like a year after weve stopped obsessing and calling and posting!  I dont think most people come back and post!  Someone recently did come back to post and everyone thanked them for it!  When they did - I wrote a post about it!  This is human nature....  For example, when you buy a product and it is amazing STILL 6 months later how often do you think, "I am so happy I think I'll stop what Im doing, to make sure and post a review about this product to help others?"  ahhhhh.... but if something doesnt work well, many times people will be angry enough to post as many negative reviews as they can.  It's why statistics on reviews cant always be trusted!
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I agree with you on this. When I found the forum I was dealing with a breakup and still in college, in fact, my ex and I went to the same school. I got readings from probably over 100 psychics between 2012-2013. Only a handful were actually correct and my go to's currently. I met someone new, graduated from college, got married, had a child and since divorced. I didn't stick around to update about my life, I was too busy enjoying my life. When I started having trouble with my marriage I started getting more readings again and became more active on the forum again. There are a lot of psychics that have worked for me and been very accurate, but there are far more who have been inaccurate and I have been left devastated. I still believe there are some gifted reader's out there but I usually stick with my tried and true.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: marciamia on January 26, 2019, 04:27:50 PM
Fair enough. I always joke if we offered the guys the money we spent on psychics they would surely go on dates with us again lol

RIGHT!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 04:28:56 PM
That's not me. But you're free to believe what you'd like so long as you don't address me as somebody else, please. Thank you.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 04:41:05 PM
That's not me. But you're free to believe what you'd like so long as you don't address me as somebody else, please. Thank you.

Lol, same as you believe whatever you want about me and address me as "negative" or whatever other labels and projections you put on me. Not hypocritical at all to ask others for respect and preach about kindness when you don't offer it in return.

ok
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 26, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
I love writing reviews for all kinds of things, restaurants, stores, clothes, cosmetics....it’s always helpful to hear others opinions.

As far as readings, we are all entitled to believe what we like. I just don’t like when people share unhealthy patterns and relationships and are being told to hang on...he might come back and realize what he lost..that’s just not good advice imo.

I get what youre saying but tbh the older I get the more I realize we're all just trying our best. Some people do deserve second chances. Relationships are not a one size fits all. Some people may hurt you but still love you. Some people may push you away because they care and that's the only way they know how to do it at the time. The more I learn about people, the more forgiving I become to them. I'm not saying to tolerate abuse or any of that sort but love is love.  It's a lot easier to judge someone else's relationship than our own because we're not directly emotionally invested. We always know deep down if a person cares about us or loves us no matter what they're doing in the physical. I don't believe you should stop your own life for anyone but if two people love each other who is anyone else to tell them what to do no matter what it looks like on the surface to us. Noone knows what goes on between 2 people except those 2 people. I would never regret following my heart, EVER. Because in that moment,  it felt right. What I would regret is  taking the advice of others who will not in any way have to deal with the outcome of what happens in my relationship after the fact. People will give advice and move on with their lives but If i take that advice and go against my heart, only I will be left to deal with it. It takes 2 people to make a relationship work and it takes 2 people to make the relationship fall apart. It's never just him and it's never just her.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 26, 2019, 07:54:46 PM
If 2 people love each other, that is one thing, but it can be very painful to hang on to someone who isn't emotionally available, or not ready to be with you, or whatever the case may be that someone is getting readings about. And by trying to keep that connection alive it never gets a chance to grow and move beyond whatever is holding it back. It sounds like such a cliche but it's true, if you love someone set them free, and if it is meant to be you will find each other again. Getting readings does not help, it holds things in place.

Truth but this has NOTHING to do with psychics it’s about how balanced and secure you are as a human to begin with. Most of my friends do not call psychics and they are a mess when they go thru divorce and break ups. Alcohol and other abuse....
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 08:05:04 PM
If 2 people love each other, that is one thing, but it can be very painful to hang on to someone who isn't emotionally available, or not ready to be with you, or whatever the case may be that someone is getting readings about. And by trying to keep that connection alive it never gets a chance to grow and move beyond whatever is holding it back. It sounds like such a cliche but it's true, if you love someone set them free, and if it is meant to be you will find each other again. Getting readings does not help, it holds things in place.

Truth but this has NOTHING to do with psychics it’s about how balanced and secure you are as a human to begin with. Most of my friends do not call psychics and they are a mess when they go thru divorce and break ups. Alcohol and other abuse....
This. And psychics CAN definitely help. If you've got the money, it's okay to get readings. Are you desperate for a reading? If you've got the money, by all means go for it. It's not bad in such a situation. You're thinking with a black and white train of thought, saying that they're desperate, so it's automatically bad to get readings in that state. This isn't true. You're going from A to W, withholding many variables. There are times when I would've let go, but I held onto predictions, stayed neutral, and things happened as predicted. Had I let go, I probably would have blocked the person, and not had another chance with them. ST, you're looking at it from such a negative and biased-toward-negative view, and your perception of it is highly wrong, and far too overly negative. I would hope you would hope you would stop being so pessimistic about things because it's not doing you any favors, and it's certainly pushing negativity and bad feeling onto members here. Negativity helps nothing. Sure, it could come from a place of trying to protect your heart, but in the long run it's detrimental to your health and affects those around you. It's not healthy for you or for us.

LAW, I agree with you. Keeping being a light in this dark world <3
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
Negativity helps nothing. Sure, it could come from a place of trying to protect your heart, but in the long run it's detrimental to your health and affects those around you. It's not healthy for you or for us.

Your idea of what is not healthy means believing that "negativity" from other people will stop your predictions from happening...so that means you either have to shield yourself from anything you perceive as negative, or else somehow control those people so they don't expose you to negativity. I suggest you find a safe space somewhere else.

You speak as if being positive and feeling emotion is being "weak", and you always have, as long as I've been here. It's quite silly. You shouldn't have to "harden up". That creates a lack of genuine and happiness. It's clear, though, that you're damaged beyond repair, so I hope you find your way out of that hole of negativity, and having to feel like you have to build a wall or have "thick skin" to feel okay. Good luck with that unhealthy coping mechanism.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 09:25:33 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 09:33:08 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 09:38:08 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 09:45:52 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 09:46:39 PM
Negativity helps nothing. Sure, it could come from a place of trying to protect your heart, but in the long run it's detrimental to your health and affects those around you. It's not healthy for you or for us.

Your idea of what is not healthy means believing that "negativity" from other people will stop your predictions from happening...so that means you either have to shield yourself from anything you perceive as negative, or else somehow control those people so they don't expose you to negativity. I suggest you find a safe space somewhere else.

You speak as if being positive and feeling emotion is being "weak", and you always have, as long as I've been here. It's quite silly. You shouldn't have to "harden up". That creates a lack of genuine and happiness. It's clear, though, that you're damaged beyond repair, so I hope you find your way out of that hole of negativity, and having to feel like you have to build a wall or have "thick skin" to feel okay. Good luck with that unhealthy coping mechanism.

Wow nice. Damaged beyond repair. Your true self is showing through.

What creates a lack of genuine happiness is living in denial.  You would know a lot about that.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 09:47:48 PM
Negativity helps nothing. Sure, it could come from a place of trying to protect your heart, but in the long run it's detrimental to your health and affects those around you. It's not healthy for you or for us.

Your idea of what is not healthy means believing that "negativity" from other people will stop your predictions from happening...so that means you either have to shield yourself from anything you perceive as negative, or else somehow control those people so they don't expose you to negativity. I suggest you find a safe space somewhere else.

You speak as if being positive and feeling emotion is being "weak", and you always have, as long as I've been here. It's quite silly. You shouldn't have to "harden up". That creates a lack of genuine and happiness. It's clear, though, that you're damaged beyond repair, so I hope you find your way out of that hole of negativity, and having to feel like you have to build a wall or have "thick skin" to feel okay. Good luck with that unhealthy coping mechanism.

Wow nice. Damaged beyond repair. Your true self is showing through.

What creates a lack of genuine happiness is living in denial.  You would know a lot about that.

You're very angry. Maybe this is why you don't have many predictions passing. Wishing you the best.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 09:52:02 PM
but my experience has been completely different from yours.

Well, maybe, but I honestly don't believe it's completely different, because I have related well to a lot of what you have written here on the forum. I think we have different views on similar experiences.

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There's nothing inherently bad with any of these things and people who have positive experiences get scrutinized for talking to psychics as if we have an issue.

I think everyone here on this forum and literally everyone alive has some kind of issue. It's called being human. We're not perfect, and there's no need to be. Would it be so terrible to have an issue?

I don't think people get scrutinized that much for having positive experiences. The ones who do get lots of congrats and thanks for giving their feedback. I am glad for everyone who gets good results from readings. I look at that as a manifestation of grace, or in some cases an outright miracle. Sometimes it is really moving to read those stories.

I used to think, I wish that was me but I don't even feel that way anymore. That's where my whole perspective changed, because I realized it wouldn't matter. I accept what got me here, but if I could do it over again I wouldn't get readings.

I think it is the people who have negative experiences are the ones who get scrutinized as having something wrong with us. I mean it's kind blatant so I'm not sure how you don't see that. Just read back through this thread as if you're reading it from my perspective. Who's getting the most scrutiny here? And try to appreciate my good humor and patience with it. Lol.

Maybe it's simply a perception thing? I guess we all just have different views, and that's okay.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 10:25:13 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 10:33:23 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.

Alright. You're far too negative to even be open minded. Got it. You know things that are anecdotal, if shown to be 'true' over and over, can be considered proof. But you're very pessimistic and very very negative. Maybe that's why no psychic had worked for you. Thanks for stopping by. Was only trying to help
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 26, 2019, 10:40:09 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.

Alright. You're far too negative to even be open minded. Got it. You know things that are anecdotal, if shown to be 'true' over and over, can be considered proof. But you're very pessimistic and very very negative. Maybe that's why no psychic had worked for you. Thanks for stopping by. Was only trying to help
what open minded and what not? There are peoples believe in the eastern bunny as much as you do so in psychics both can’t be prove to be real or not. What make your better then their?
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 26, 2019, 10:44:53 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.

Alright. You're far too negative to even be open minded. Got it. You know things that are anecdotal, if shown to be 'true' over and over, can be considered proof. But you're very pessimistic and very very negative. Maybe that's why no psychic had worked for you. Thanks for stopping by. Was only trying to help
what open minded and what not? There are peoples believe in the eastern bunny as much as you do so in psychics both can’t be prove to be real or not. What make your better then their?

Lmfaooo eastern bunny.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 26, 2019, 10:58:11 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.

Alright. You're far too negative to even be open minded. Got it. You know things that are anecdotal, if shown to be 'true' over and over, can be considered proof. But you're very pessimistic and very very negative. Maybe that's why no psychic had worked for you. Thanks for stopping by. Was only trying to help

The reason why his predictions didn't come true is bc he aka lostsoul209 used to stalk his POI at the gym everyday and text her nonstop and she would run away from him. We would tell him to stop bc it was making her uncomfortable but he kept insisting on doing it. Then he comes back and claims the psychics led him on. No, his stalking scared her away.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 26, 2019, 11:28:37 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.

Alright. You're far too negative to even be open minded. Got it. You know things that are anecdotal, if shown to be 'true' over and over, can be considered proof. But you're very pessimistic and very very negative. Maybe that's why no psychic had worked for you. Thanks for stopping by. Was only trying to help

The reason why his predictions didn't come true is bc he aka lostsoul209 used to stalk his POI at the gym everyday and text her nonstop and she would run away from him. We would tell him to stop bc it was making her uncomfortable but he kept insisting on doing it. Then he comes back and claims the psychics led him on. No, his stalking scared her away.

Yessss ladya. Exactly
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 26, 2019, 11:37:11 PM
At the end of the day if psychics work for you greats and if it don’t peoples have the right to give their reviews here too. I used to believe in all those stuff soul mate, twin flame, soul family ect what I learn is that they make millions off those stock line that why I become a non believer in psychics reading also my bad experience with them.

I'm really sorry that was your experience. I was quite skeptical at first. And I also had experiences that made me doubt them. But then I found a few who worked really well for me, and proved to me their validity. So I want to send you positivity and let you know that despite your experiences, they most certainly do exist and are real. If you want to give up on psychics that's your decision to make. If you stick with it I do hope that you find one who works well with you <3 You're a great person and deserve that happiness. Wishing you the best.
There no proof that this stuff work or not and that 100 percent fact. Same reason as god exist or not we don’t know unlit we die. I can’t take people owned experiences for it. I try all the top psychics from my experience they just don’t work for me.

It's not something you can 'prove'. It is very true. I've had psychics tell me I'd be in France, on a specific day (one in particular gave me the exact day). I live in another country, have no reason to even go there. I didn't have the funds. So I asked if a vacation was coming up. I was told, "No. It will be a short trip. It doesn't seem like a good visit". Then, half a year later, I found out my grandfather died, and it turns out that his father was from France and wanted to be buried there. As we mourned his death, my mother booked a flight, on that exact day. Because of another emergency, we had to leave that very day and go back to America.

I'm sorry you can't take peoples' experiences for understanding, but I can say, as can others, without a doubt, that they exist. I'd suggest you either try another psychic (I'd suggest Yona Mattie Abundant Visions, Kisha, and a few other online ones) and they've all been right countless times, in explicit detail. Maybe it's your lack of belief that's making it difficult for psychics to read you properly and get a proper outcome prediction? I'm not sure. But whatever the reason is, and maybe they did not connect with you, I would suggest trying other psychics if you still want to try. If not, that's okay. You live your life. Psychics aren't a necessity. But I can tell you, as fact, they are most definitely real. I'm sorry your experiences have been lackluster. Who have you read with if you do not mind me asking? There are a lot of fakes out there, and you cannot base your understanding of them on the fake psychics. And maybe you just haven't found "your" psychic yet. But I wish you luck.
Two can play that games so I believe that the eastern bunny exist and it really do eixist from my experience I’m sorry that you don’t believe that they eixist.

Alright. You're far too negative to even be open minded. Got it. You know things that are anecdotal, if shown to be 'true' over and over, can be considered proof. But you're very pessimistic and very very negative. Maybe that's why no psychic had worked for you. Thanks for stopping by. Was only trying to help

The reason why his predictions didn't come true is bc he aka lostsoul209 used to stalk his POI at the gym everyday and text her nonstop and she would run away from him. We would tell him to stop bc it was making her uncomfortable but he kept insisting on doing it. Then he comes back and claims the psychics led him on. No, his stalking scared her away.

Yessss ladya. Exactly

Oh shit seriously guys? Yeah that would do it. Psychicperson... That's your issue right there.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Apalm831 on January 27, 2019, 12:51:56 AM
Psychicgirls posts the best stuff. Long live the Eastern Bunny
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Fidget1028 on January 27, 2019, 12:54:51 AM
Pshhh...no one believes in the eastern bunny. The western bunny is one wiley wabbit though.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 27, 2019, 01:08:49 AM
i heard Santa has one up in the North Pole  ;D
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 27, 2019, 01:12:47 AM
i heard Santa has one up in the North Pole  ;D

No no no. You are thinking of the NORTHERN Bunny(;
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Miss Philosopher on January 27, 2019, 01:24:02 AM
Wait.....I'm so confused reading this thread.........is psychic girls aka this lostsoul person? I thought psychic girls was a female due to the name "girls" in it? Guess I made a bad assumption.

If this is true and this guy really did do all that stalking and smothering.........yeah no predictions will ever come to pass. I mean, one of the BEST things you can do is give a person space and let them have their freedom........most people would run away from someone that smothered and controlled them. Eek! I didn't know this poster was someone else!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Apalm831 on January 27, 2019, 07:44:09 AM
Wait.....I'm so confused reading this thread.........is psychic girls aka this lostsoul person? I thought psychic girls was a female due to the name "girls" in it? Guess I made a bad assumption.

If this is true and this guy really did do all that stalking and smothering.........yeah no predictions will ever come to pass. I mean, one of the BEST things you can do is give a person space and let them have their freedom........most people would run away from someone that smothered and controlled them. Eek! I didn't know this poster was someone else!

Yeah it is.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Penelope on January 27, 2019, 08:32:06 AM
i heard Santa has one up in the North Pole  ;D

No no no. You are thinking of the NORTHERN Bunny(;

😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 27, 2019, 01:48:00 PM
If 2 people love each other, that is one thing, but it can be very painful to hang on to someone who isn't emotionally available, or not ready to be with you, or whatever the case may be that someone is getting readings about. And by trying to keep that connection alive it never gets a chance to grow and move beyond whatever is holding it back. It sounds like such a cliche but it's true, if you love someone set them free, and if it is meant to be you will find each other again. Getting readings does not help, it holds things in place.

Truth but this has NOTHING to do with psychics it’s about how balanced and secure you are as a human to begin with. Most of my friends do not call psychics and they are a mess when they go thru divorce and break ups. Alcohol and other abuse....
This. And psychics CAN definitely help. If you've got the money, it's okay to get readings. Are you desperate for a reading? If you've got the money, by all means go for it. It's not bad in such a situation. You're thinking with a black and white train of thought, saying that they're desperate, so it's automatically bad to get readings in that state. This isn't true. You're going from A to W, withholding many variables. There are times when I would've let go, but I held onto predictions, stayed neutral, and things happened as predicted. Had I let go, I probably would have blocked the person, and not had another chance with them. ST, you're looking at it from such a negative and biased-toward-negative view, and your perception of it is highly wrong, and far too overly negative. I would hope you would hope you would stop being so pessimistic about things because it's not doing you any favors, and it's certainly pushing negativity and bad feeling onto members here. Negativity helps nothing. Sure, it could come from a place of trying to protect your heart, but in the long run it's detrimental to your health and affects those around you. It's not healthy for you or for us.

LAW, I agree with you. Keeping being a light in this dark world <3

Thx Josh, I appreciate that....  I promise its a curse in some ways as I rarely see the bad in anything or anyone! 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 27, 2019, 02:04:53 PM
If 2 people love each other, that is one thing, but it can be very painful to hang on to someone who isn't emotionally available, or not ready to be with you, or whatever the case may be that someone is getting readings about. And by trying to keep that connection alive it never gets a chance to grow and move beyond whatever is holding it back. It sounds like such a cliche but it's true, if you love someone set them free, and if it is meant to be you will find each other again. Getting readings does not help, it holds things in place.

Truth but this has NOTHING to do with psychics it’s about how balanced and secure you are as a human to begin with. Most of my friends do not call psychics and they are a mess when they go thru divorce and break ups. Alcohol and other abuse....

Getting readings has everything to do with it. Saying that people can be dysfunctional in other ways does not mean readings have nothing to do with it. People choose their poison. But emotional shocks or loss can rock even the most balanced and secure people. You never know how you will cope with something until it happens to you. Readings are a bad habit to fall back on if you go through a severe shock or stress. The same with alcohol, the person who never had more than one glass of wine a day might start drinking it by the bottle if life goes sideways. Our habits are everything and they are what make us balanced and secure. It's best not to form habits at things that have to be kept under control because we are all vulnerable to losing control. Thinking you can handle everything or control things is exactly the kind of pride that goes before a fall.

Yes - but honestly how often do people get readings when everything in their life is going perfectly?  Readers helped me tremendously get through my breakup.  I luckily found this site early on and called and spoke mostly only with the recommended ones.  Empaths helped me sort through what happened a little bit and some of the big guns (Yona, Kisha, Mattie) - have given predictions and timelines that are in the near future for me (some of Yona's have started).  I am at the point now where I can let go and see if the predictions come to pass. I am okay if they do not......  I feel the journey over the past few months actually helped me heal and move on and know things will be okay. 

I realize what you are saying, there could be people who keep hanging on to predictions and when they dont pass they binge on more readings or some other form of abusive/unhealthy behavior.  But can we blame this on the psychics?  It does not make them "fake" or "dishonest".  I am not sure we will ever know why some things come to pass and others dont?  We can all debate - free will, destiny, LOA, high and low vibrations and other energy, did i get too many readings?  But there is no way to truly know why some redictions happen and others dont? 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: HornetKick on January 27, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
Wait.....I'm so confused reading this thread.........is psychic girls aka this lostsoul person? I thought psychic girls was a female due to the name "girls" in it? Guess I made a bad assumption.

If this is true and this guy really did do all that stalking and smothering.........yeah no predictions will ever come to pass. I mean, one of the BEST things you can do is give a person space and let them have their freedom........most people would run away from someone that smothered and controlled them. Eek! I didn't know this poster was someone else!

There really is no valid proof psychic girls is lostsoul. Their posting styles are similar (mainly English not being their first language, broken sentences and the constant sentiment that all psychics are frauds). I’ve never understood why they haven’t stopped getting readings though. I took the name psychic girls (not girl) as a throwback or backhanded comment to the forum since the majority of posters are female and a lot of people would critique and comment about his posts and what he was doing with his POI. It’s all a guess.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 27, 2019, 06:14:57 PM
I realize what you are saying, there could be people who keep hanging on to predictions and when they dont pass they binge on more readings or some other form of abusive/unhealthy behavior.  But can we blame this on the psychics?

Can we blame the psychics for the actual choices people make? No. But can we blame them for heavily influencing or manipulating those decisions? A thousand times, yes!!! The psychics themselves say and do things that set people up for that and exploit those tendencies.

It may or may not be intentional, most times it probably isn't, but many times they do things that encourage dependency, or exploit a person's vulnerabilities, or manipulate emotions.

Some put way too much ego into what they do. They want the client to trust them and believe them even if it means the client ignores their own intuition. They don't like to be wrong. They raise expectations and hopes way too high. They overemphasize how great things will be when xyz happens. They keep extending timelines. They put doom and gloom warnings on what will happen if you don't follow their advice. They say you'll regret it if you do what your own instincts are telling you to do. Don't contact this person to find out the truth. Etc. It goes on and on.

And some readers are codependent and "too caring." They love bomb their clients. They have their own emotional needs they are trying to get met by their clients. They want to be loved, admired, respected. They want someone to depend on them for answers.

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It does not make them "fake" or "dishonest".

I agree but it's really sort of a moot point. If they are wrong, they are wrong. Does it matter if they were being dishonest? I'm not even sure how you would determine that. I think many of them really, truly, sincerely believe the things they say to clients. They might even pass a lie detector test because they believe in it so strongly. Does that make it "true" though?

The problem is when we ask people to tell us things that aren't already evident to us in reality, there is no way to actually verify those things. So it does open up the possibility that they may lie to us, but more so it opens up the realms of speculation, misinterpretation, subjective opinion, fantasy, and sheer delusion. That is the fundamental nature of getting readings. Readings are subjective, not factual.

There is a lot of value and benefit in exploring things that are subjective, and a lot of healing can come from that. But there are many, many ways to do that, that don't involve hearing someone make predictions about the future.

What makes readings so dangerous is most of them are NOT "fake" or "dishonest." They can have real abilities, and they may be totally sincere about what they are telling you. They could be right about a lot of things, and they could help you a lot, and then you start to get comfortable. You go deeper and deeper into things that are subjective, and it feels, *feels* like they are so right about everything. You feel so much better after you talk to them. Then one day, they turn out to be factually wrong about something, maybe something big, or maybe just something small. But they are so blatantly wrong about it that it makes you question a lot of other things they said, maybe even because those other things are all connected to this one thing they got wrong. So it could mean that they are wrong about the rest of it too. But you're not sure what to believe.

So maybe you call back or message them to get some clarification, because after all they have been right about a lot of other things. And you can tell they really are not "fake" or "dishonest" because they are such a nice person and they have already helped you a lot. You just have a little doubt now about something they said. Like you're sure it can be straightened out really quickly. But, things start to get weird. You can't really get a straight answer. Maybe they suddenly change the subject, or the call/chat get disconnected. You know they wouldn't actually hang up on you because they are not "fake" or "dishonest." So you try to reconnect, but now they aren't available. Oh well, no big deal. You can try again another day.

But there is this gnawing feeling inside you wondering how they got that one thing wrong. Because it really does impact a lot of other things they said, which you thought all along they were right about. But now you realize, you're not totally sure about some other things they said either. You could verify some of those things, but not all of it. Come to think of it, some of what you thought you verified might now be interpreted differently. So you're really, really not sure what to believe anymore. Suddenly your head is spinning trying to figure it out. And look, here is another reader online, that you haven't spoken to in awhile. Maybe you'll just check in with them for a quick reading to see what their take is.

That's how it starts. And any normal, thinking person could get sucked in by this. It is a very slippery slope. You could get by for a long time not really binging or overspending. But the more you listen to them say things that can't be verified as factual, the more you lose your footing on solid ground. Factual information is what keeps us grounded. The very intent behind getting a reading, is to find out something beyond what our own eyes and ears tell us. There's nothing wrong with wanting to do that, and it can be helpful. But it has a lot of pitfalls. It is very, very risky. And the longer it goes on, the more dependent you become on having it be accurate. Not less dependent - more.

No one thinks when they start out getting readings, that they are going to binge or overspend. Some of us go on for years keeping it under control before we start binging - like me! Those first few years, I never thought it would let it get out of control. But those carefully controlled habits are what set up the conditions that led to binging and overspending.

So do I blame the psychics for my choice to start down that path? No not at all. It was my own decision. Do I blame them for my own choice, any of the times I decided to get a reading? No of course not.

But did they do things to push me further down that path, to the point that it became destructive? Yes! Absolutely yes. Not all of them, but certain ones, certain things they did. What some of them did was morally wrong, or unprofessional, or just plain incompetent. I can understand them, and forgive them, and I totally believe that they meant well in almost every case. But I will never excuse those behaviors or blame myself for what they chose to do.

But beyond any of that...I blame it on the nature of readings being highly subjective and prone to error. That's just how it is, and it is the risk we all gamble on when we decide to get readings.

I can't emphasize enough. It is very risky. It is way worse than gambling in a casino because you don't ever win a little money back and get to decide if you want to walk away with those winnings or double down and try again. It is just cumulative spending that you will never, ever, ever get back. What's really at stake is your sense of reality, and your ability to stay grounded, and to see and interprets things clearly.

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I am not sure we will ever know why some things come to pass and others dont?  We can all debate - free will, destiny, LOA, high and low vibrations and other energy, did i get too many readings?  But there is no way to truly know why some redictions happen and others dont?

The answer is simple...if the predictions don't happen, they gave an inaccurate reading. Their reading did not line up with the facts. Any other explanation is just going to lead further and further away from the facts of the situation. It can be really interesting to explore those things - or it can lead to a lot of useless self-blame and trying to fix things. But it doesn't change anything. The facts are what they are.

I agree ALL of this wholeheartedly (except last paragraph I dont see things as facts necessarily) - BUT yes!!!! 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 27, 2019, 06:32:29 PM
I realize what you are saying, there could be people who keep hanging on to predictions and when they dont pass they binge on more readings or some other form of abusive/unhealthy behavior.  But can we blame this on the psychics?

Can we blame the psychics for the actual choices people make? No. But can we blame them for heavily influencing or manipulating those decisions? A thousand times, yes!!! The psychics themselves say and do things that set people up for that and exploit those tendencies.

It may or may not be intentional, most times it probably isn't, but many times they do things that encourage dependency, or exploit a person's vulnerabilities, or manipulate emotions.

Some put way too much ego into what they do. They want the client to trust them and believe them even if it means the client ignores their own intuition. They don't like to be wrong. They raise expectations and hopes way too high. They overemphasize how great things will be when xyz happens. They keep extending timelines. They put doom and gloom warnings on what will happen if you don't follow their advice. They say you'll regret it if you do what your own instincts are telling you to do. Don't contact this person to find out the truth. Etc. It goes on and on.

And some readers are codependent and "too caring." They love bomb their clients. They have their own emotional needs they are trying to get met by their clients. They want to be loved, admired, respected. They want someone to depend on them for answers.

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It does not make them "fake" or "dishonest".

I agree but it's really sort of a moot point. If they are wrong, they are wrong. Does it matter if they were being dishonest? I'm not even sure how you would determine that. I think many of them really, truly, sincerely believe the things they say to clients. They might even pass a lie detector test because they believe in it so strongly. Does that make it "true" though?

The problem is when we ask people to tell us things that aren't already evident to us in reality, there is no way to actually verify those things. So it does open up the possibility that they may lie to us, but more so it opens up the realms of speculation, misinterpretation, subjective opinion, fantasy, and sheer delusion. That is the fundamental nature of getting readings. Readings are subjective, not factual.

There is a lot of value and benefit in exploring things that are subjective, and a lot of healing can come from that. But there are many, many ways to do that, that don't involve hearing someone make predictions about the future.

What makes readings so dangerous is most of them are NOT "fake" or "dishonest." They can have real abilities, and they may be totally sincere about what they are telling you. They could be right about a lot of things, and they could help you a lot, and then you start to get comfortable. You go deeper and deeper into things that are subjective, and it feels, *feels* like they are so right about everything. You feel so much better after you talk to them. Then one day, they turn out to be factually wrong about something, maybe something big, or maybe just something small. But they are so blatantly wrong about it that it makes you question a lot of other things they said, maybe even because those other things are all connected to this one thing they got wrong. So it could mean that they are wrong about the rest of it too. But you're not sure what to believe.

So maybe you call back or message them to get some clarification, because after all they have been right about a lot of other things. And you can tell they really are not "fake" or "dishonest" because they are such a nice person and they have already helped you a lot. You just have a little doubt now about something they said. Like you're sure it can be straightened out really quickly. But, things start to get weird. You can't really get a straight answer. Maybe they suddenly change the subject, or the call/chat get disconnected. You know they wouldn't actually hang up on you because they are not "fake" or "dishonest." So you try to reconnect, but now they aren't available. Oh well, no big deal. You can try again another day.

But there is this gnawing feeling inside you wondering how they got that one thing wrong. Because it really does impact a lot of other things they said, which you thought all along they were right about. But now you realize, you're not totally sure about some other things they said either. You could verify some of those things, but not all of it. Come to think of it, some of what you thought you verified might now be interpreted differently. So you're really, really not sure what to believe anymore. Suddenly your head is spinning trying to figure it out. And look, here is another reader online, that you haven't spoken to in awhile. Maybe you'll just check in with them for a quick reading to see what their take is.

That's how it starts. And any normal, thinking person could get sucked in by this. It is a very slippery slope. You could get by for a long time not really binging or overspending. But the more you listen to them say things that can't be verified as factual, the more you lose your footing on solid ground. Factual information is what keeps us grounded. The very intent behind getting a reading, is to find out something beyond what our own eyes and ears tell us. There's nothing wrong with wanting to do that, and it can be helpful. But it has a lot of pitfalls. It is very, very risky. And the longer it goes on, the more dependent you become on having it be accurate. Not less dependent - more.

No one thinks when they start out getting readings, that they are going to binge or overspend. Some of us go on for years keeping it under control before we start binging - like me! Those first few years, I never thought it would let it get out of control. But those carefully controlled habits are what set up the conditions that led to binging and overspending.

So do I blame the psychics for my choice to start down that path? No not at all. It was my own decision. Do I blame them for my own choice, any of the times I decided to get a reading? No of course not.

But did they do things to push me further down that path, to the point that it became destructive? Yes! Absolutely yes. Not all of them, but certain ones, certain things they did. What some of them did was morally wrong, or unprofessional, or just plain incompetent. I can understand them, and forgive them, and I totally believe that they meant well in almost every case. But I will never excuse those behaviors or blame myself for what they chose to do.

But beyond any of that...I blame it on the nature of readings being highly subjective and prone to error. That's just how it is, and it is the risk we all gamble on when we decide to get readings.

I can't emphasize enough. It is very risky. It is way worse than gambling in a casino because you don't ever win a little money back and get to decide if you want to walk away with those winnings or double down and try again. It is just cumulative spending that you will never, ever, ever get back. What's really at stake is your sense of reality, and your ability to stay grounded, and to see and interprets things clearly.

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I am not sure we will ever know why some things come to pass and others dont?  We can all debate - free will, destiny, LOA, high and low vibrations and other energy, did i get too many readings?  But there is no way to truly know why some redictions happen and others dont?

The answer is simple...if the predictions don't happen, they gave an inaccurate reading. Their reading did not line up with the facts. Any other explanation is just going to lead further and further away from the facts of the situation. It can be really interesting to explore those things - or it can lead to a lot of useless self-blame and trying to fix things. But it doesn't change anything. The facts are what they are.



YES!! The bolded paragraph is everything...great post Tired
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: tellmewhy on January 27, 2019, 06:39:46 PM
Readings should only be treated as entertainment only and if you're lucky, a prediction may happen.

But I'd say when I was in a really bad spot career-wise, readings helped me not to give up hope even though most of the predictions were wrong within the time frame of expectation plus I think guide doesn't tell you directly where you will be working, they give codes, not sure why? 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 27, 2019, 06:49:43 PM
Readings should only be treated as entertainment only and if you're lucky, a prediction may happen.

But I'd say when I was in a really bad spot career-wise, readings helped me not to give up hope even though most of the predictions were wrong within the time frame of expectation plus I think guide doesn't tell you directly where you will be working, they give codes, not sure why?

I would not go so far as to say only if you're really lucky theyll happen. You just have got to find a reader who connects well with you and is not a fake. Alot of people have their predictions come through, it is not uncommon:)

And I agree with the latter part of your paragraph most certainly:) I love the optimism!! And I thought about that before. Maybe that is the only way they can connect to a psychic? Or maybe it is because the psychic is not 'trained enough'?  I  feel it may be symbols "suited for them" and they sorta tailor or make the symbols how the psychic would recognize. If that makes any sense
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: dascallie on January 27, 2019, 07:01:18 PM
Agree with SawtheLight on StillTired's wisdom...THIS ...

"I can't emphasize enough. It is very risky. It is way worse than gambling in a casino because you don't ever win a little money back and get to decide if you want to walk away with those winnings or double down and try again. It is just cumulative spending that you will never, ever, ever get back. What's really at stake is your sense of reality, and your ability to stay grounded, and to see and interprets things clearly."

These words from Still Tired are a very important and astute insight--ESPECIALLY the last sentence.

"What's really at stake is your sense of reality, and your ability to stay grounded, and to see and interprets things clearly"
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 27, 2019, 07:19:30 PM
Agree with SawtheLight on StillTired's wisdom...THIS ...

"I can't emphasize enough. It is very risky. It is way worse than gambling in a casino because you don't ever win a little money back and get to decide if you want to walk away with those winnings or double down and try again. It is just cumulative spending that you will never, ever, ever get back. What's really at stake is your sense of reality, and your ability to stay grounded, and to see and interprets things clearly."

These words from Still Tired are a very important and astute insight--ESPECIALLY the last sentence.

"What's really at stake is your sense of reality, and your ability to stay grounded, and to see and interprets things clearly"

Exactly. And everyone learns this in their own way. I used to defend my favorite readers and think readings were this source of enlightenment. It wasn’t until I was fully removed from first poi and dealt with reality that I realized how damaging they can be.

They really do have you living in a false sense of reality.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Love2lovenj on January 27, 2019, 08:55:40 PM
Wait.....I'm so confused reading this thread.........is psychic girls aka this lostsoul person? I thought psychic girls was a female due to the name "girls" in it? Guess I made a bad assumption.

If this is true and this guy really did do all that stalking and smothering.........yeah no predictions will ever come to pass. I mean, one of the BEST things you can do is give a person space and let them have their freedom........most people would run away from someone that smothered and controlled them. Eek! I didn't know this poster was someone else!

I am always dumbfounded by people who spend money on readings and are advised that there will be something coming on a certain date.  Then they refuse to wait till that time and do what they want to do instead. Then they say the reader isn't accurate. How can someone be accurate when you're changing the prediction with your own free will.  I know its hard to wait for things to take place but being in someone's face constantly doesn't get you anywhere.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 28, 2019, 06:34:26 AM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger but I have to say I agree with this a lot. Did my POI came back? NO? Was xyz man my soulmate? NO .... Hell I even had a psychic tell me I would acquire about 30 to 50K regarding a legal matter I was attempting to pursue... AND guess what... They dropped the case so I will acquire $0. Not at all trying to sound negative by all that because my point in the matter is I MOVED ON with my life even though nothing they told me would happen, happened and I am a point in my life have never been happier. I stopped getting readings because they don't resonate anymore with my life, even with the most general ones. When we are happy with dance through life with a thankful and grateful vibe but when we are sad we tirelessly seek to know why. It's important to pray and just stay positive even in the darkest of times because it really matters seeing things on the otherside of the darkness and knowing you survived.
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Apalm831 on January 28, 2019, 06:47:07 AM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger but I have to say I agree with this a lot. Did my POI came back? NO? Was xyz man my soulmate? NO .... Hell I even had a psychic tell me I would acquire about 30 to 50K regarding a legal matter I was attempting to pursue... AND guess what... They dropped the case so I will acquire $0. Not at all trying to sound negative by all that because my point in the matter is I MOVED ON with my life even though nothing they told me would happen, happened and I am a point in my life have never been happier. I stopped getting readings because they don't resonate anymore with my life, even with the most general ones. When we are happy with dance through life with a thankful and grateful vibe but when we are sad we tirelessly seek to know why. It's important to pray and just stay positive even in the darkest of times because it really matters seeing things on the otherside of the darkness and knowing you survived.
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

*time and time again
*most people
*that’s why
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 28, 2019, 06:53:50 AM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger but I have to say I agree with this a lot. Did my POI came back? NO? Was xyz man my soulmate? NO .... Hell I even had a psychic tell me I would acquire about 30 to 50K regarding a legal matter I was attempting to pursue... AND guess what... They dropped the case so I will acquire $0. Not at all trying to sound negative by all that because my point in the matter is I MOVED ON with my life even though nothing they told me would happen, happened and I am a point in my life have never been happier. I stopped getting readings because they don't resonate anymore with my life, even with the most general ones. When we are happy with dance through life with a thankful and grateful vibe but when we are sad we tirelessly seek to know why. It's important to pray and just stay positive even in the darkest of times because it really matters seeing things on the otherside of the darkness and knowing you survived.
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

*time and time again
*most people
*that’s why
When do we start having a grammar police? No thanks i stay here and keep on posting and give my honest reviews on psychics.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 28, 2019, 06:54:13 AM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger but I have to say I agree with this a lot. Did my POI came back? NO? Was xyz man my soulmate? NO .... Hell I even had a psychic tell me I would acquire about 30 to 50K regarding a legal matter I was attempting to pursue... AND guess what... They dropped the case so I will acquire $0. Not at all trying to sound negative by all that because my point in the matter is I MOVED ON with my life even though nothing they told me would happen, happened and I am a point in my life have never been happier. I stopped getting readings because they don't resonate anymore with my life, even with the most general ones. When we are happy with dance through life with a thankful and grateful vibe but when we are sad we tirelessly seek to know why. It's important to pray and just stay positive even in the darkest of times because it really matters seeing things on the otherside of the darkness and knowing you survived.
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

Dude. Want to take two seconds out of your day to stop being negative? Many have had their big outcomes happen. You're focusing on the negative and the ones who hadn't. That's pure cynicism right there and it's not healthy. What a sad life you must live with such a horrible mindset.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Apalm831 on January 28, 2019, 08:20:41 AM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger but I have to say I agree with this a lot. Did my POI came back? NO? Was xyz man my soulmate? NO .... Hell I even had a psychic tell me I would acquire about 30 to 50K regarding a legal matter I was attempting to pursue... AND guess what... They dropped the case so I will acquire $0. Not at all trying to sound negative by all that because my point in the matter is I MOVED ON with my life even though nothing they told me would happen, happened and I am a point in my life have never been happier. I stopped getting readings because they don't resonate anymore with my life, even with the most general ones. When we are happy with dance through life with a thankful and grateful vibe but when we are sad we tirelessly seek to know why. It's important to pray and just stay positive even in the darkest of times because it really matters seeing things on the otherside of the darkness and knowing you survived.
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

*time and time again
*most people
*that’s why
When do we start having a grammar police? No thanks i stay here and keep on posting and give my honest reviews on psychics.

*when did we
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 28, 2019, 01:59:02 PM
There are just as many people who had things come true that didn’t. Plenty of people had their POI come back. I like psychics. I think they’re fun.

Absolutely!

@psychicgirls - Please know that i am NOT trying to be rude BUT every single post that you post is literally the exact same thing!  There are PLENTY of people on here who have posted positive stories and things that have manifested and I have never once seen a post from you that said - congratulations, that is great!  However, when someone posts - timeline past, psychic was wrong - he didnt come back, etc... you are the first one to post "they never come back, and all psychics get your hopes up, lie, etc".  I am ONLY pointing this out because it has a very "misery loves company" feel to it!  I certainly do not know your journey, and I am sorry that things did not manifest for you, I really am BUT it really is such a Debbie downer....  positive vibes REALLY do work!!!!

Don't shoot the messenger but I have to say I agree with this a lot. Did my POI came back? NO? Was xyz man my soulmate? NO .... Hell I even had a psychic tell me I would acquire about 30 to 50K regarding a legal matter I was attempting to pursue... AND guess what... They dropped the case so I will acquire $0. Not at all trying to sound negative by all that because my point in the matter is I MOVED ON with my life even though nothing they told me would happen, happened and I am a point in my life have never been happier. I stopped getting readings because they don't resonate anymore with my life, even with the most general ones. When we are happy with dance through life with a thankful and grateful vibe but when we are sad we tirelessly seek to know why. It's important to pray and just stay positive even in the darkest of times because it really matters seeing things on the otherside of the darkness and knowing you survived.
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

*time and time again
*most people
*that’s why
When do we start having a grammar police? No thanks i stay here and keep on posting and give my honest reviews on psychics.

*when did we

Lmfaooo. Grammar police. Saying all psychics are fake in every thread is not a review. You literally sound like a broken clock. Saying the same thing over and over and over and over. And over. Yes we all work for keen  ;D. You got me.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: jhuskindle on January 28, 2019, 02:06:20 PM
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

That's what it always makes me wonder, if that they work for Keen or some other platform, not necessarily even as a reader but some other role in the company. Why else would they care so much if other people stop getting readings?

I’ll always get readings but I’ll tell you why some people are obsessed with fighting it: to admit that someone should leave readings behind is to admit that their outcomes may not come true. I don’t think they work for anyone, they just don’t want to admit there might be a chance theirs are so wrong.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 02:40:33 PM
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

That's what it always makes me wonder, if that they work for Keen or some other platform, not necessarily even as a reader but some other role in the company. Why else would they care so much if other people stop getting readings?

I personally think it just forces them to look at reality a bit more..not referencing anyone specific, but it's like they don't want to admit that this can happen to them too (having most predictions fail)..I was kind of like that too in a way...I didn't want to believe when I saw some people posting these stories that they spent all this money and nothing came true.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 28, 2019, 02:57:55 PM
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

That's what it always makes me wonder, if that they work for Keen or some other platform, not necessarily even as a reader but some other role in the company. Why else would they care so much if other people stop getting readings?

If it was anyone else on this board, I would understand completely their stance. But you do realize this you’re siding with a creep. His POI was very young and also young enough to be his daughter who just got out of a divorce that he became obsessed with. She blocked him cause he was constantly telling her his feelings prob in the same repetitive manner he says all psychics are fake and he would still stalk her at the gym she worked at after the fact.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 03:02:25 PM
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

That's what it always makes me wonder, if that they work for Keen or some other platform, not necessarily even as a reader but some other role in the company. Why else would they care so much if other people stop getting readings?

If it was anyone else on this board, I would understand completely their stance. But you do realize this you’re siding with a creep. His POI was very young and also young enough to be his daughter who just got out of a divorce that he became obsessed with. She blocked him cause he was constantly telling her his feelings prob in the same repetitive manner he says all psychics are fake and he would still stalk her at the gym she worked at after the fact.

that was a creepy situation.  And what about all the readers that fed him BS though?  talking about adding fuel to the fire.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: ladya on January 28, 2019, 03:26:32 PM
Timed and timed again we mostly see peoples that come here and said that these psychics were wrong on the big outcome and the reviews on keen always  said thanks you put my mind at ease what a joke lol. And there are some peoples here that encouraged peoples to give psychics reading another try lol these peoples must work for keen that why lol.

That's what it always makes me wonder, if that they work for Keen or some other platform, not necessarily even as a reader but some other role in the company. Why else would they care so much if other people stop getting readings?

If it was anyone else on this board, I would understand completely their stance. But you do realize this you’re siding with a creep. His POI was very young and also young enough to be his daughter who just got out of a divorce that he became obsessed with. She blocked him cause he was constantly telling her his feelings prob in the same repetitive manner he says all psychics are fake and he would still stalk her at the gym she worked at after the fact.

I disagree and I will take no part in such gossip. What a rude thing to say, both to me and about this other poster. Try to stick to the ideas at hand and not get so personal.

Nope. I initially commented because I refuse to enable this kind of behavior. You want to defend him and enable him, be my guest. I’m done commenting on this thread
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
Yep, lots of psychics are addicts themselves.  for sure. 

I used to read here way before I became a member, and that's what opened my eyes.  Not talking about the newer members, but the Veteran's stories.  I actually used to rely on the feedback on Keen and various sites as to what a reader's accuracy was...then I found this site and SPS etc..and I remember thinking, wow...so maybe they're all wrong??  And yes, for the most part, they were all wrong.

I don't believe that some people don't come back because they are happily living their lives...maybe like 1 in 20 that might happen to.  I think more just got disgusted with the whole process or are still lurking, in denial.

I really loved getting readings in the beginning, made me feel like I was part of some higher spiritual experience, esp. believing all the BS they told me about first guy...So I can see why some posters are such vehement defenders of readings.

I personally feel for the most part, they open you up to bad things.  If and when I meet someone new, I won't get any readings on them...I feel it jinxes things.  Sad to say, but true.

Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 04:53:18 PM
I am so happy you are feeling better Tired..I am too!  I used to have days where it took everything in me not to burst into tears in public..all related to this first guy I called about (I was much less invested in second POI).

Now, I find myself just feeling happy again for the most part....like I did before he was in my life.

 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Apalm831 on January 28, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
Lost soul/psychicgirls I’m sick of your posts, and your inability to properly conjugate a verb. You stalked and harassed your POI using the positive predictions psychics gave you as a reason. Get help. Stop posting your anti-readings bullshit. Nothing worked out for you because you’re frighteningly unstable.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 28, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
No one wanted to known the truth. I agree looking at the reviews in here and the reviews on keen the  successful story are like 1 out of 20. If that the case I can becomed a psychics too lol.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
I am so happy you are feeling better Tired..I am too!  I used to have days where it took everything in me not to burst into tears in public..all related to this first guy I called about (I was much less invested in second POI).

Now, I find myself just feeling happy again for the most part....like I did before he was in my life.

Thank you!! I'm really glad for you too! I used to be the same way...feeling like I was going to burst into tears a lot of the time. Or I was just angry and wanting to scream. My mind was constantly going around and around trying to make sense of what all these psychics told me.

I still get down sometimes...that's just life and I have health problems that are really frustrating and exhausting. But aside from that I am much happier now.

YES! It's like it almost puts you into a clinical depression..I tend to lean toward being depressed anyway and boy did this put me in a hole for a while!

I actually read with someone on Purple Ocean that told me "I think this guys triggers your depression".

Boy was he right!

I find now, that I'm older, the less I let people get to me, the happier I am :)
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 28, 2019, 07:05:18 PM
@sawthelight and @stilltired - I 100% agree with all of your intelligent and well-thought out posts!  I think many of us will agree that getting readings is dangerous and can be a slippery slope.  We all appreciate your reviews and contributions to this forum.  You have both offered a lot of insight and written many posts that I know I have appreciated and agreed with.  And even if I didnt agree with it, I respected it because it was an intelligent opinion.  The BIG, BIG difference though is @psychisgirls does NOT really contribute OR review.  Literally, the only thing he or she (I dont really know who they are) - is post as much negativity as possible on anything they can.  There are no kind words ever written, never reviews anyone that I have ever seen, bashes every psychic (with zero storyline or any actual facts that ive ever read about) - no matter what anyone writes - she/he responds with something along the lines of either the psychic is fake, lying and the poi is not coming back!  It just gets super old and I think most people are wondering why he/she is sooooo helbent on ruining everyone's post!  I notice most people just ignore the posts and we can go on doing so...  but I dont believe ladya was comparing you to them
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 28, 2019, 07:11:06 PM
@sawthelight and @stilltired - I 100% agree with all of your intelligent and well-thought out posts!  I think many of us will agree that getting readings is dangerous and can be a slippery slope.  We all appreciate your reviews and contributions to this forum.  You have both offered a lot of insight and written many posts that I know I have appreciated and agreed with.  And even if I didnt agree with it, I respected it because it was an intelligent opinion.  The BIG, BIG difference though is @psychisgirls does NOT really contribute OR review.  Literally, the only thing he or she (I dont really know who they are) - is post as much negativity as possible on anything they can.  There are no kind words ever written, never reviews anyone that I have ever seen, bashes every psychic (with zero storyline or any actual facts that ive ever read about) - no matter what anyone writes - she/he responds with something along the lines of either the psychic is fake, lying and the poi is not coming back!  It just gets super old and I think most people are wondering why he/she is sooooo helbent on ruining everyone's post!  I notice most people just ignore the posts and we can go on doing so...  but I dont believe ladya was comparing you to them
LOL some peoples PM me and Said that I was helpful and I was telling the truth LOL. At least if I can help 1 or 2 peoples stop getting readings then I'll stay.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 28, 2019, 07:14:35 PM
@sawthelight and @stilltired - I 100% agree with all of your intelligent and well-thought out posts!  I think many of us will agree that getting readings is dangerous and can be a slippery slope.  We all appreciate your reviews and contributions to this forum.  You have both offered a lot of insight and written many posts that I know I have appreciated and agreed with.  And even if I didnt agree with it, I respected it because it was an intelligent opinion.  The BIG, BIG difference though is @psychisgirls does NOT really contribute OR review.  Literally, the only thing he or she (I dont really know who they are) - is post as much negativity as possible on anything they can.  There are no kind words ever written, never reviews anyone that I have ever seen, bashes every psychic (with zero storyline or any actual facts that ive ever read about) - no matter what anyone writes - she/he responds with something along the lines of either the psychic is fake, lying and the poi is not coming back!  It just gets super old and I think most people are wondering why he/she is sooooo helbent on ruining everyone's post!  I notice most people just ignore the posts and we can go on doing so...  but I dont believe ladya was comparing you to them
LOL some peoples PM me and Said that I was helpful and I was telling the truth LOL. At least if I can help 1 or 2 peoples stop getting readings then I'll stay.

That means nothing as far as the validity of psychics go. They're very real, and what you're doing to those people aren't helping. How could you saying what you had be "helping"? They may have responded with the fact that they agree with you, but that's it. By all means hide behind the comfort of trying to convince yourself that they're all fake. But they are very very real, and you're living in ignorance. Sorry all the fake psychics hadn't worked for you.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 28, 2019, 07:22:46 PM
@sawthelight and @stilltired - I 100% agree with all of your intelligent and well-thought out posts!  I think many of us will agree that getting readings is dangerous and can be a slippery slope.  We all appreciate your reviews and contributions to this forum.  You have both offered a lot of insight and written many posts that I know I have appreciated and agreed with.  And even if I didnt agree with it, I respected it because it was an intelligent opinion.  The BIG, BIG difference though is @psychisgirls does NOT really contribute OR review.  Literally, the only thing he or she (I dont really know who they are) - is post as much negativity as possible on anything they can.  There are no kind words ever written, never reviews anyone that I have ever seen, bashes every psychic (with zero storyline or any actual facts that ive ever read about) - no matter what anyone writes - she/he responds with something along the lines of either the psychic is fake, lying and the poi is not coming back!  It just gets super old and I think most people are wondering why he/she is sooooo helbent on ruining everyone's post!  I notice most people just ignore the posts and we can go on doing so...  but I dont believe ladya was comparing you to them
LOL some peoples PM me and Said that I was helpful and I was telling the truth LOL. At least if I can help 1 or 2 peoples stop getting readings then I'll stay.

That means nothing as far as the validity of psychics go. They're very real, and what you're doing to those people aren't helping. How could you saying what you had be "helping"? They may have responded with the fact that they agree with you, but that's it. By all means hide behind the comfort of trying to convince yourself that they're all fake. But they are very very real, and you're living in ignorance. Sorry all the fake psychics hadn't worked for you.
They are very real but every times they take James Randi psychic challenges for 1 millions dollar they always failed and the top psychics wouldn't even wanted to take his challenges.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 07:24:27 PM
YES! It's like it almost puts you into a clinical depression..I tend to lean toward being depressed anyway and boy did this put me in a hole for a while!

I actually read with someone on Purple Ocean that told me "I think this guys triggers your depression".

Boy was he right!

I find now, that I'm older, the less I let people get to me, the happier I am :)

Yes!! For me it was worse than depression. It's like I was terrified all the time of what was going to happen next. It was more than having anxiety. I was hypervigilant. For me it triggered PTSD and OCD symptoms. After I got sick it forced me to stop paying attention to what other people were doing and just focus on myself and my own healing. It's so ironic but my health problems set me free and allowed me to feel better.

Great way to put it.  You are so right.  It got to the point when POI would contact me, I would get this lump in my stomach of dread, like what is he going to do now that disappoints me?  And it's not my normal way of thinking, to assume the worst..I really give people the benefit of the doubt a lot..much more than I should.

You're so right, hypervigilant is perfect word.

 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 07:26:09 PM
@sawthelight and @stilltired - I 100% agree with all of your intelligent and well-thought out posts!  I think many of us will agree that getting readings is dangerous and can be a slippery slope.  We all appreciate your reviews and contributions to this forum.  You have both offered a lot of insight and written many posts that I know I have appreciated and agreed with.  And even if I didnt agree with it, I respected it because it was an intelligent opinion.  The BIG, BIG difference though is @psychisgirls does NOT really contribute OR review.  Literally, the only thing he or she (I dont really know who they are) - is post as much negativity as possible on anything they can.  There are no kind words ever written, never reviews anyone that I have ever seen, bashes every psychic (with zero storyline or any actual facts that ive ever read about) - no matter what anyone writes - she/he responds with something along the lines of either the psychic is fake, lying and the poi is not coming back!  It just gets super old and I think most people are wondering why he/she is sooooo helbent on ruining everyone's post!  I notice most people just ignore the posts and we can go on doing so...  but I dont believe ladya was comparing you to them

thanks Law.. :)  I really am only trying to help even if I come off abrasive sometimes.  I just hate the idea of anyone going thru what I did.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 07:50:45 PM
I really find myself wondering how long I would have put up with his crap if I hadn't had any readings on him....I bet a whole lot less time.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 28, 2019, 07:58:37 PM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 28, 2019, 08:14:23 PM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. There's literally no evidence for Santa, whereas for psychics, there is, albeit, anecdotal. But I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 08:25:44 PM
I really find myself wondering how long I would have put up with his crap if I hadn't had any readings on him....I bet a whole lot less time.

OMG. I would have moved on so long ago. Even in those first few months I was just so disgusted with his behavior. I was on the verge of just telling him off. Every instinct I had was telling me to do that. But I made the mistake of telling readers that! And they would say, no don't do that. Give it time, wait and see. He will change. Blah blah blah. They would talk me down and make me feel sorry for him and tell me how he needed healing. I mean, what about me?! I needed healing! They took all the focus off of me and put it on him. What was he doing, thinking, feeling. A good spiritual advisor would never put so much focus on another person in a reading. The main focus should be on the client and what they need for their own growth and healing.

Oh jeez..we must have read with the same readers LOL! 

I had a few (after time went by and I guess they could see how much pain I was in) either tell me to move on (which was a mindf**K too) or to just not overthink and let things play out naturally..like what?? I've been putting up with his crap for almost two years ..how much longer am I gonna give this time to play out?  Until I'm in a nursing home?   ;D ;D

That's why i respect Magicsong so much..she was point blank..he won't change, and won't make you happy. 

But did I listen, no, I tortured myself for a while longer.  LMAO.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 28, 2019, 08:28:15 PM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistently under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

I completely agree:) I think this is one thing you cannot prove under the scientific method, as it's 'floaty' and not as much of a '100% repeatable' thing. You can find trends, but it's very much dependent upon the reader, the client, among other factors. But after you see things happening time and time again, in such a specific way which was foretold, you know they're real.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 08:32:09 PM
I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..small things...inconsequential in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 28, 2019, 08:34:53 PM
I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..small things...inconsequential in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 08:44:38 PM
I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..small things...inconsequential in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

that's for sure..and like I said previously, even if the big outcome did happen, it wouldn't have been worth the money I spent...and the ups and downs I went through to get there.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 28, 2019, 08:45:54 PM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistently under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

I completely agree:) I think this is one thing you cannot prove under the scientific method, as it's 'floaty' and not as much of a '100% repeatable' thing. You can find trends, but it's very much dependent upon the reader, the client, among other factors. But after you see things happening time and time again, in such a specific way which was foretold, you know they're real.

Thank goodness we agree on something. Lol
I know! Hahahaha! it made me happy lol.

I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..small things...inconsequential in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

that's for sure..and like I said previously, even if the big outcome did happen, it wouldn't have been worth the money I spent...and the ups and downs I went through to get there.

Yes yes. And that is entirely your decision. The amount it's worth to get that confirmation on the big outcome. I'm sorry you went through so much :(
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 08:46:22 PM
I really find myself wondering how long I would have put up with his crap if I hadn't had any readings on him....I bet a whole lot less time.

OMG. I would have moved on so long ago. Even in those first few months I was just so disgusted with his behavior. I was on the verge of just telling him off. Every instinct I had was telling me to do that. But I made the mistake of telling readers that! And they would say, no don't do that. Give it time, wait and see. He will change. Blah blah blah. They would talk me down and make me feel sorry for him and tell me how he needed healing. I mean, what about me?! I needed healing! They took all the focus off of me and put it on him. What was he doing, thinking, feeling. A good spiritual advisor would never put so much focus on another person in a reading. The main focus should be on the client and what they need for their own growth and healing.

Oh jeez..we must have read with the same readers LOL! 

I had a few (after time went by and I guess they could see how much pain I was in) either tell me to move on (which was a mindf**K too) or to just not overthink and let things play out naturally..like what?? I've been putting up with his crap for almost two years ago..how much longer am I gonna give this time to play out?  Until I'm in a nursing home?   ;D ;D

That's why i respect Magicsong so much..she was point blank..he won't change, and won't make you happy. 

But did I listen, no, I tortured myself for a while longer.  LMAO.

There were two male readers who told me from the beginning I was putting too much focus on him...but on the other hand they didn't give me the kind of insight that would have helped me to stop doing that either. They can tell us bluntly but deep down we already know and hearing it point blank doesn't necessarily help. I needed something more to help me move on.

I don't fault any of the readers for not having the deeper insight I really needed - it was complicated and maybe no one could have given that to me. But they delayed me from finding it, by continuing to make predictions that never came to pass, extending timelines and discouraging me from acting in my own best interest.

I know what you mean, i don't blame the psychics personally..I blame myself.  And no one, at all, made me call obsessively like I did..that was all me and I can only blame myself.

Got to say, thank God for this forum...it's so nice to have a place to come and have people understand what I went through..It really helps to heal!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 09:03:26 PM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistently under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

I completely agree:) I think this is one thing you cannot prove under the scientific method, as it's 'floaty' and not as much of a '100% repeatable' thing. You can find trends, but it's very much dependent upon the reader, the client, among other factors. But after you see things happening time and time again, in such a specific way which was foretold, you know they're real.

Thank goodness we agree on something. Lol
I know! Hahahaha! it made me happy lol.

I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..small things...inconsequential in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

that's for sure..and like I said previously, even if the big outcome did happen, it wouldn't have been worth the money I spent...and the ups and downs I went through to get there.

Yes yes. And that is entirely your decision. The amount it's worth to get that confirmation on the big outcome. I'm sorry you went through so much :(

It's cool...learning process I guess..it's almost as if I was in a trance the whole time I was with him and getting readings on him and now looking back, I'm like wtf??? no stupid guy is worth all that!  But at the time, it was so important to me..
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: LAW1974 on January 28, 2019, 09:09:31 PM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistently under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

Exactly...  it's not tangible or black and white or objective/subjective...it's a little deeper than that!  There's so much more to it!  And maybe were NOT supposed to know what happens in the future and maybe were also not supposed to be tappin ginto others feelings? 
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 28, 2019, 09:42:34 PM
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Fidget1028 on January 29, 2019, 01:10:24 AM
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

Aw, thank you! You too! I think it helps to keep a balanced perspective here, for people who had bad results with readings to post.

No matter how many people have good results, still not everyone is going to have their predictions pan out. No one should feel be left feeling like they are the only one or did something wrong.

I agree. Keep posting Tired. I haven't had anything of substance manifest. I have stopped getting readings after realizing how much pain it has caused me emotionally and financially. I will be the first to tell the world if anyone was right about anything, but so far, nadda.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: jhuskindle on January 29, 2019, 01:12:54 AM
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

Aw, thank you! You too! I think it helps to keep a balanced perspective here, for people who had bad results with readings to post.

No matter how many people have good results, still not everyone is going to have their predictions pan out. No one should feel be left feeling like they are the only one or did something wrong.

I agree. Keep posting Tired. I haven't had anything of substance manifest. I have stopped getting readings after realizing how much pain it has caused me emotionally and financially. I will be the first to tell the world if anyone was right about anything, but so far, nadda.

Just curious how long most of you read without major events coming to pass?
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Fidget1028 on January 29, 2019, 01:35:35 AM
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

Aw, thank you! You too! I think it helps to keep a balanced perspective here, for people who had bad results with readings to post.

No matter how many people have good results, still not everyone is going to have their predictions pan out. No one should feel be left feeling like they are the only one or did something wrong.

I agree. Keep posting Tired. I haven't had anything of substance manifest. I have stopped getting readings after realizing how much pain it has caused me emotionally and financially. I will be the first to tell the world if anyone was right about anything, but so far, nadda.

Just curious how long most of you read without major events coming to pass?

Almost 2 years. Sigh.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Kat23 on January 29, 2019, 01:35:59 PM
My journey into this psychic started when I was dumped by POI... Storm Cestavani was giving free psychic reading on MSM website then..  listeners can ask questions via MSM chat ..yep that's how long ago and . that's how I found keen..some of keen readers became my personal friend...maybe out of pity....I've never tried storefront readers only keen.

the reading messed with my head, my heart and my financial.. When prediction failed, i was blamed.... perhaps these men are just part of my life journey..one psychic said... it is lesson to be learnt? Not sure what lesson, who's lesson, mine or his? After all these yesrs, I cannot figure out...

I am now in the acceptance phase in this life journey...moving on ...who's know what's tomorrow..I will find out each day and deal with it trusting my gut instinct



Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 31, 2019, 02:30:43 AM
Peoples can hated me for posting and saying the same stuff but new peoples messages me and said that I was right and there poi didn’t come back. As long as I can help  peoples to stop getting reading then I”ll stay.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 31, 2019, 02:34:50 AM
Peoples can hated me for posting and saying the same stuff but new peoples messages me and said that I was right and there poi didn’t come back. As long as I can help  peoples to stop getting reading then I”ll stay.

You're clearly making things up. Why would somebody message you that, thanking you, that their predictions were wrong, and how is that even kind connect to psychic ability being real? It's not "black and white". Your comment not only disproves nothing, but it doesnt do anything to further your argument in any way. (What you're saying is the same as saying, "I ate pancakes for dinner so Nickles are not made of nickle anymore".) Not to mention, theres no reason anyone would contact you, specifically, thanking you that their predictions were wrong. I think you're kind of full of crap, honestly. Nobody hates you, that wouldn't be right. But we do dislike what you're trying to spread around, just based upon your own pessimism and closed-mindedness.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 31, 2019, 02:37:24 AM
Peoples can hated me for posting and saying the same stuff but new peoples messages me and said that I was right and there poi didn’t come back. As long as I can help  peoples to stop getting reading then I”ll stay.

You're clearly making things up. Why would somebody message you that, thanking you, that their predictions were wrong, and how is that even kind connect to psychic ability being real? It's not "black and white". Your comment not only disproves nothing, but it doesnt do anything to further your argument in any way. Not to mention, theres no reason anyone would contact you, specifically, thanking you that their predictions were wrong. I think you're kind of full of crap, honestly. Nobody hates you, that wouldn't be right. But we do dislike what you're trying to spread around, just based upon your own pessimism and closed-mindedness.
I don’t think it a bad thing if i can stop peoples from getting reading you wanted proof I post screen shot. It better then telling peoples to keep on getting reading lol. Look at the story here peoples are in pain because they hold on to there poi that don’t care about them anymore because they listened to psychics.



Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 31, 2019, 02:41:42 AM
Peoples can hated me for posting and saying the same stuff but new peoples messages me and said that I was right and there poi didn’t come back. As long as I can help  peoples to stop getting reading then I”ll stay.

You're clearly making things up. Why would somebody message you that, thanking you, that their predictions were wrong, and how is that even kind connect to psychic ability being real? It's not "black and white". Your comment not only disproves nothing, but it doesnt do anything to further your argument in any way. Not to mention, theres no reason anyone would contact you, specifically, thanking you that their predictions were wrong. I think you're kind of full of crap, honestly. Nobody hates you, that wouldn't be right. But we do dislike what you're trying to spread around, just based upon your own pessimism and closed-mindedness.
I don’t think it a bad thing if i can stop peoples from getting reading you wanted proof I post screen shot. It better then telling peoples to keep on getting reading lol.

It's not about you dissuading people. It's the fact that you're dissuading people, taking advantage of their ignorance. Readings can help. What you're doing isnt necessarily helping. It may help those who are speaking with psychics who dont connect to them, or fake psychics. But it's also stopping them from getting actual potentially good and solid predictions which can actually help. Not to mention psychics give guidance too. It's not just about predictions. Whether it's good or bad, helpful or otherwise, is not your call to make. Its dependent upon the psychic and upon the individual. So you need to stop spreading your ignorance to others, if, in fact, what you say is true... which I sincerely dont believe it to be. I think, also judging by your posts, that you're here to troll. What you dont understand is that it's not always them holding onto a pipe dream. Sometimes it can be, but other times, they may be holding on for good reason. And for you to dissuade someone to get readings because of your own lack of knowledge and your own (wrong) biases, that's a problem. You're not doing the right thing, you're being immature and spreading your ignorance toward others. That's not your call to make. So you're not helping. You could also be hurting others because you're simply too cynical to see the truth that psychic ability is real.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: psychic girls on January 31, 2019, 02:47:33 AM
Peoples can hated me for posting and saying the same stuff but new peoples messages me and said that I was right and there poi didn’t come back. As long as I can help  peoples to stop getting reading then I”ll stay.

You're clearly making things up. Why would somebody message you that, thanking you, that their predictions were wrong, and how is that even kind connect to psychic ability being real? It's not "black and white". Your comment not only disproves nothing, but it doesnt do anything to further your argument in any way. Not to mention, theres no reason anyone would contact you, specifically, thanking you that their predictions were wrong. I think you're kind of full of crap, honestly. Nobody hates you, that wouldn't be right. But we do dislike what you're trying to spread around, just based upon your own pessimism and closed-mindedness.
I don’t think it a bad thing if i can stop peoples from getting reading you wanted proof I post screen shot. It better then telling peoples to keep on getting reading lol.

It's not about you dissuading people. It's the fact that you're dissuading people, taking advantage of their ignorance. Readings can help. What you're doing isnt necessarily helping. It may help those who are speaking with psychics who dont connect to them, or fake psychics. But it's also stopping them from getting actual potentially good and solid predictions which can actually help. Not to mention psychics give guidance too. It's not just about predictions. Whether it's good or bad, helpful or otherwise, is not your call to make. Its dependent upon the psychic and upon the individual. So you need to stop spreading your ignorance to others, if, in fact, what you say is true... which I sincerely dont believe it to be. I think, also judging by your posts, that you're here to troll. What you dont understand is that it's not always them holding onto a pipe dream. Sometimes it can be, but other times, they may be holding on for good reason. And for you to dissuade someone to get readings because of your own lack of knowledge and your own (wrong) biases, that's a problem. You're not doing the right thing, you're being immature and spreading your ignorance toward others. That's not your call to make.
Have you not read the history of these post how can a reading help? They rarely helped. How can you said it a bad thing when peoples stop getting reading. It better then wasting thousand of dollars on psychics to give you false hope. Look at the reading on keen you put my mind at ease lol.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on January 31, 2019, 02:58:05 AM
Peoples can hated me for posting and saying the same stuff but new peoples messages me and said that I was right and there poi didn’t come back. As long as I can help  peoples to stop getting reading then I”ll stay.

You're clearly making things up. Why would somebody message you that, thanking you, that their predictions were wrong, and how is that even kind connect to psychic ability being real? It's not "black and white". Your comment not only disproves nothing, but it doesnt do anything to further your argument in any way. Not to mention, theres no reason anyone would contact you, specifically, thanking you that their predictions were wrong. I think you're kind of full of crap, honestly. Nobody hates you, that wouldn't be right. But we do dislike what you're trying to spread around, just based upon your own pessimism and closed-mindedness.
I don’t think it a bad thing if i can stop peoples from getting reading you wanted proof I post screen shot. It better then telling peoples to keep on getting reading lol.

It's not about you dissuading people. It's the fact that you're dissuading people, taking advantage of their ignorance. Readings can help. What you're doing isnt necessarily helping. It may help those who are speaking with psychics who dont connect to them, or fake psychics. But it's also stopping them from getting actual potentially good and solid predictions which can actually help. Not to mention psychics give guidance too. It's not just about predictions. Whether it's good or bad, helpful or otherwise, is not your call to make. Its dependent upon the psychic and upon the individual. So you need to stop spreading your ignorance to others, if, in fact, what you say is true... which I sincerely dont believe it to be. I think, also judging by your posts, that you're here to troll. What you dont understand is that it's not always them holding onto a pipe dream. Sometimes it can be, but other times, they may be holding on for good reason. And for you to dissuade someone to get readings because of your own lack of knowledge and your own (wrong) biases, that's a problem. You're not doing the right thing, you're being immature and spreading your ignorance toward others. That's not your call to make.
Have you not read the history of these post how can a reading help? They rarely helped. How can you said it a bad thing when peoples stop getting reading. It better then wasting thousand of dollars on psychics to give you false hope. Look at the reading on keen you put my mind at ease lol.

What posts? You're not even thinking with logic. You're seriously being one-sided here. Yes, they can hurt things, but they can also help. I've SEEN proof of it helping. I AM proof of it helping. I would've blocked my POI a long time ago, had I not began talking to psychics. It's a good thing I started talking to them because it caused me to hold on, and now we're together again. I don't like being vocal about that on a public forum, but yah. So it can help. There's no "it rarely helped". That's illogical. You cannot quantify that. It's particular to each individual's situation, which determines whether it'll help or not. Also if they're talking to legitimate psychics, or those who connect with them. You cannot make a claim like that. It's not "black-and-white". Depending on so many factors, it may help, or it may hurt. You're being foolish and quite ignorant to believe you're helping others. You could very well be hurting them.

You are so very closed-minded and overly pessimistic and cynical. If you don't believe in psychics, then why are you here? We get it. You talked with fake psychics, so they didn't work for you. Or, if you're that person everyone here thinks you are, then it was YOUR FAULT that the predictions didn't happen. Get over it, and stop forcing your cynical and ignorant views on others. You could be hurting these people.

You need to reanalyze how to speak with logic, and how to take into account all the different variables. You're speaking from a place of ignorance, and could potentially be hurting others with the ridiculous advice you're giving. Just stop. If you don't believe in this, then just leave the forums. Why be on here anyway?
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Fidget1028 on January 31, 2019, 03:30:20 PM
The only way it could hurt people to hear that psychic readings are not helpful, or turn out wrong, is if they are relying too much on readings. No one "needs" readings to get through life. They can be helpful, but they are risky and the dangers far outweigh the benefits. The few benefits that can be gained from readings are far better found in other ways, possibly through counseling, but especially by spending time in prayer and developing your own ability to communicate with spirit. There is simply no need to spend lots of money paying someone else to do that and act as a third party between you and spirit, potentially misinterpreting the messages that are meant only for you. Relying on psychics is unnecessary at best, and at worst, it takes your power away and makes you dependent on hearing what they have to say.

Josh as far as I am aware, you don't own this forum, so it really isn't your place to tell anyone to leave. Disagree if you must, and continue arguing every time you hear something you dislike, but telling people to leave is crossing the line. No one is required to be a "true believer" to post here.

Keep posting Still Tired. I find your posts very grounding. Basing life choices on readings is a slippery slope. Even if the reading is accurate, most times you don't even know it is. Look at Apalm's post on the Kira thread. Kira told her that her her current relationship (which for all intents and purposes was going well) would be ending in disappointment. She didn't believe her and that maybe she wasn't connecting and asked for a refund. Kira ended up being right a few days later. Did the reading make any difference? Nope. I mean what should or could Apalm do? Her POI ended it. Nothing Kira said was going to change that. Maybe she could have been prepared, but why would you even believe the reading based on the current circumstance?  It's cool that she was right, but ultimately it didn't help anything.

Regardless of right or wrong, good or bad, believer or not, I think it's critical to maintain balance on this forum. Josh is out of line with his comments. Especially for someone who lectures everyone on "getting along" and then comes out with the insults like a petulant child.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: sawthelight on January 31, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
The only way it could hurt people to hear that psychic readings are not helpful, or turn out wrong, is if they are relying too much on readings. No one "needs" readings to get through life. They can be helpful, but they are risky and the dangers far outweigh the benefits. The few benefits that can be gained from readings are far better found in other ways, possibly through counseling, but especially by spending time in prayer and developing your own ability to communicate with spirit. There is simply no need to spend lots of money paying someone else to do that and act as a third party between you and spirit, potentially misinterpreting the messages that are meant only for you. Relying on psychics is unnecessary at best, and at worst, it takes your power away and makes you dependent on hearing what they have to say.

Josh as far as I am aware, you don't own this forum, so it really isn't your place to tell anyone to leave. Disagree if you must, and continue arguing every time you hear something you dislike, but telling people to leave is crossing the line. No one is required to be a "true believer" to post here.

yep yep yep!  I think I'm Tired's biggest fan LOL!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: njlady on February 09, 2019, 01:04:21 AM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. There's literally no evidence for Santa, whereas for psychics, there is, albeit, anecdotal. But I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

Will you please just put him on ignore.  You won't see his posts any more.

When you quote his posts, everyone who has him on ignore already can see his posts quoted in your posts and people are going to put you on ignore so they don't have to see this.
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: josh34 on February 09, 2019, 01:05:34 AM
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. There's literally no evidence for Santa, whereas for psychics, there is, albeit, anecdotal. But I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

Will you please just put him on ignore.  You won't see his posts any more.

When you quote his posts, everyone who has him on ignore already can see his posts quoted in your posts and people are going to put you on ignore so they don't have to see this.

Oh how do I do this? Thank you!
Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
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Title: Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
Post by: Just FYI on February 09, 2019, 02:08:23 AM
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