Psychic Reviews
Potpourri Boards => About The Psychic Reviews => Topic started by: lovelygirl86 on March 27, 2014, 08:55:14 PM
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Hi everyone! I don't post a lot on here but I wanted to ask if this has ever happened to anyone before. So two guys I used to call about who were complete idiots and who weren't very affectionate with me all that much to begin with, I would get 85% positive readings like he really has deep feelings, oh he will be reaching out soon because nobody compares to you like every nice thing you could think of, even the whole he'll be back BS, of course none of it ever happened and both of those dudes are completely moved on... Well why is it that now that I've met an amazing man who really genuinely tries with me, takes me on dates, texts me calls me treats me like a queen... Readers tell me they get affection cards, no love cards, he's not quiet there yet as far as loving feelings just give it time. It's like wtf? The sad part is I start to believe it but then I have to remember that 90% of the readers I read with were HELLA wrong with the first two guys I used to call about saying that they were so super into me and would come back around and didn't want to lose me when we literally hadn't spoke in MONTHS, but with the good guy most readings have been eh. Like they make me feel like he actually doesn't care for me. It's super opposite. Any one else experience this?
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Edit: readers get NO affectionate cards. Like he feels nothing for me so far. :/
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lovely girl this is my opinion and please do not take it personally. Once you find someone you are happy with and feel comfortable with than whats the point of calling these readers.? Just live in the moment and enjoy his company and time spend together. Why would someone waste their time and energy on calling readers once they find someone who is actually not a Jerk and treats them nice. All the rest if it is meant to be comes with time. Again just my opinion.
all the best..love
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@love I know I totally agree. I stopped calling months ago because I started finding out the truth through mutual friends and I just thought wow, what a waste of money.. I guess I was just bored/curious and I started to think how opposite it is for me I guess. With the bad guys the readings are cute and magical with the good guy it's oh he doesn't want you he hasn't developed feelings. It's just funny to me I guess.
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i agree with love. why calling psychics when you see the guys actions? if he is caring and nice i wouldn't even bother calling psychics.
please think about it. your previous predictions didn't come true. you think they are correct now? i doubt that. enjoy this guy and time spent with him. listen to your intuition. actions speak louder then words remember. especially with guys.
read some feedback from members who have been here for years and see that for majority predictions failed to manifest (those who promised reconciliation)
also how can psychic say he misses you, can't be without you and thinks about you and reality is that he hasn't contacted you in months? i don't wanna sound harsh but i was told same lies like many others. NOONE knows what will happen in future..if you found a guy you are happy with and who treats you right then enjoy his company and see where things take you. calling psychics and obsessing about things that might not be true might harm your relationship..
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Yes, I had the exact same issues. That the guy I was calling about still cared, yet when I started to be interested in someone else I was told to stay friends, it wouldn't go anywhere, he was dark, no commitment, etc. I only called a few times when I was interested in the new guy (trying to see where the old guy was before I cut him loose) but that was the gist of it.
Bottom line was, that was Sept 2011. I'm still with that dark, non-committal new guy (best rs EVER, he is completely devoted to me and I to him) and haven't heard from old guy since Aug 2011 (except for a random fb post over 2 years ago when he was in an accident). As a matter of fact, old guy was recently arrested for something quite shocking and I'm so glad I'm not involved with that family anymore.
Again, 100% wrong
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sunandmoon that's soo interesting. i'm glad you listened to your intuition and stayed with the new guy :) just goes to show not to act based on your readings. i used to act according to what psychics told me.
(example - when they said my ex would confess his feelings to me and when the timeframe came and passed and it didnt happen i was upset and very down. i started acting funny with him, i couldn't control it and started asking questions which then resulted in arguments and me getting more and more upset cause i wasn't getting what they said was supposed to happen. needless to say he never confessed his feelings for me and it's almost 2 years after predictions were made that he would. because i was really stuck on what psychics said i acted like a jealous woman around him which is not cool and after that we argued on a weekly basis. this up and down lasted almost a year until i let go of him recently - with me letting go of hope our relationship has improved and we are now able to talk to each other without arguments - ONLY BECAUSE I LISTENED TO MY INTUITION THIS TIME AND NOT TO PSYCHICS)
wish you all the best sunandmoon :)
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sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting. Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago? I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened. I'll explain. Had you thought and been sure, in the past, that the readers were accurate and that your love interest had deeper feelings for you than those he had shared, you would have been more content and less inclined to question him - knowing that he would eventually share them, but all the while knowing that because he hadn't did not indicate that those feelings weren't there. That questioning placed the relationship in a rough spot. In my opinion, it seems more a case of you having a specific expectation as to the timing of him being ready to share with you his inner feelings that caused the troubles.
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Sagitira,
See!! I felt like I ALMOST got to that point. I know I shouldn't ever call these people again because they were so wrong with past predictions and I did lay off of them for a while. If I did call I would ask about my job only, I had 2 tell me about the 'new guy' coming into my life and I remember thinking yeah right who cares it's all baloney! Well oddly enough I feel like that prediction could've been one of the very many I've received that was actually true. I was a little scared to pursue anything with him because of my own insecurities but he's really shown me that he's 100% there for me and treats me amazing! I guess like I said I was bored and curious and felt well if these psychics felt as though the other 2 douchebags 'loved' me and yada yada this guy must actually almost be there because he puts action behind his words! Nope. So far it's just been, he cares for you a lot but I don't see romance cards.. As new guy is texting me sweet nothing's... And one reader actually almost madee crazy, telling me he's hiding something from me and that she don't trust him because he's not honest. I asked if it was a girl or ??? And she said no, it's not a girl I can't see exactly what it is. Uggghh! So I know that I do need to trust only my intuition and just go with the flow. I almost got sucked back in that life. I don't want that ever again.
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Wow... I just don't understand why it works that way. Now I know to just trust my gut. He's really amazing and it would be silly to push him away because of these people. Thank you for sharing.
Yes, I had the exact same issues. The guy I was calling about still cared, yet when I started to be interested in someone else I was told to stay friends, it wouldn't go anywhere, he was dark, no commitment, etc. I only called a few times when I was interested in the new guy (trying to see where the old guy was before I cut him loose) but that was the gist of it.
Bottom line was, that was Sept 2011. I'm still with that dark, non-committal new guy (best rs EVER, he is completely devoted to me and I to him) and haven't heard from old guy since Aug 2011 (except for a random fb post over 2 years ago when he was in an accident). As a matter of fact, old guy was recently arrested for something quite shocking and I'm so glad I'm not involved with that family anymore.
Again, 100% wrong
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No psychic reading should ever trump your own intuition and gut feeling. Furthermore, reputable psychics will be sure to tell you that up front and without hesitation.
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Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting. Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago? I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened. I'll explain. Had you thought and been sure, in the past, that the readers were accurate and that your love interest had deeper feelings for you than those he had shared, you would have been more content and less inclined to question him - knowing that he would eventually share them, but all the while knowing that because he hadn't did not indicate that those feelings weren't there. That questioning placed the relationship in a rough spot. In my opinion, it seems more a case of you having a specific expectation as to the timing of him being ready to share with you his inner feelings that caused the troubles.
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Divinewishes,
I am not clarifying someone's understanding of a reading at all. I am simply making my own observation. Just as you are here too. I don't limit you or suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself.
All I am trying to point out, and I personally believe this is important everyone would be best to consider, and that is that no psychic prediction or reading should be heeded when and if the client has intuition that indicates otherwise. And in this case, sagitira didn't allow the psychics to trump her own intuition, even though she didn't realize it.
That's all. I have no intention nor am I commenting on others when they have come to accept what is. Actually, if you read what I was saying closely you would see that I was noticing that sagitira was not really accepting what the psychics had told her to accept. Although she was claiming she shouldn't have listened to them, in fact, from an outsider's point of view it appeared she didn't accept those predictions anyway.
Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding. If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting. Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago? I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened. I'll explain. Had you thought and been sure, in the past, that the readers were accurate and that your love interest had deeper feelings for you than those he had shared, you would have been more content and less inclined to question him - knowing that he would eventually share them, but all the while knowing that because he hadn't did not indicate that those feelings weren't there. That questioning placed the relationship in a rough spot. In my opinion, it seems more a case of you having a specific expectation as to the timing of him being ready to share with you his inner feelings that caused the troubles.
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Lovelygirl and sagitira, despite anyone else's assessment, it sounds like your psychic readings were 100% wrong. Thank you for sharing your stories with us. When you're caught up in psychic delusionment it's easy to second guess your intuition. It happens. We're human and we all have weak moments. I commend you for having the strength to rise above it and allow your relationships to develop naturally. Perhaps when you have time you could leave reviews in the other sub-topics about the psychics you read with. ;)
Sunandmoon, I'm so happy for you! You and I split from our exes at the same time but I have not been as fortunate as you, lol. Glad to hear all is well, darlin, you deserve it. <3
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The reviews have been left already! They are in the 100% wrong sub-topic section!
Lovelygirl and sagitira, despite anyone else's assessment, it sounds like your psychic readings were 100% wrong. Thank you for sharing your stories with us. When you're caught up in psychic delusionment it's easy to second guess your intuition. It happens. We're human and we all have weak moments. I commend you for having the strength to rise above it and allow your relationships to develop naturally. Perhaps when you have time you could leave reviews in the other sub-topics about the psychics you read with. ;)
Sunandmoon, I'm so happy for you! You and I split from our exes at the same time but I have not been as fortunate as you, lol. Glad to hear all is well, darlin, you deserve it. <3
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Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
I saw this coming from a mile away, but that's the point Bark was trying to make. Sagitira (ultimately) did not accept the [what is] as you call it.....that her ex would make some kind of emotional confession. Mainly because a psychic placed the thoughts in her head that he was going to do something, but became argumentative instead, waiting on a confession that did not come, after the predicted time passed. Mind you the predicted scenario could have possibly happened, if she had let things continue on its present course and not look for what the reader told her (by letting it go).
In other words, it appears that because she was looking for it, it did not come and caused it to dissipate, whereas had she not forced its hand, it might have shown on its own. If she truly believed it would happen....she would not have been looking for it to begin with. The same energies we project to manifest things, is the same energy that pushes things away because we want [it] so badly and it is just as strong. I've been told this on numerous occasions.
We are influenced by our thoughts and thoughts placed in our heads by others, even more so when we want the happy ending. And when we are told something is coming, we no longer behave the same way as before nor stay the course, irritably changing the original path we were on.
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Thank you, Zee. It is refreshing to see that someone else recognizes that we play a big part in what might materialize. I was told by a number of psychics that forums like this one actually inhibit predictions from coming to pass. I was a little unsure at first, but seeing as this forum has taken on a decidedly negative energy of late - I think it is quite possible. Part of this whole process is to "have faith". Not blind faith, mind you, but faith. Presuming that all psychics are fake and 100% wrong - how can one consider that having faith? It's no wonder nothing happens!
Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
I saw this coming from a mile away, but that's the point Bark was trying to make. Sagitira (ultimately) did not accept the [what is] as you call it.....that her ex would make some kind of emotional confession. Mainly because a psychic placed the thoughts in her head that he was going to do something, but became argumentative instead, waiting on a confession that did not come, after the predicted time passed. Mind you the predicted scenario could have possibly happened, if she had let things continue on its present course and not look for what the reader told her (by letting it go).
In other words, it appears that because she was looking for it, it did not come and caused it to dissipate, whereas had she not forced its hand, it might have shown on its own. If she truly believed it would happen....she would not have been looking for it to begin with. The same energies we project to manifest things, is the same energy that pushes things away because we want [it] so badly and it is just as strong. I've been told this on numerous occasions.
We are influenced by our thoughts and thoughts placed in our heads by others, even more so when we want the happy ending. And when we are told something is coming, we no longer behave the same way as before nor stay the course, irritably changing the original path we were on.
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Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
I saw this coming from a mile away, but that's the point Bark was trying to make. Sagitira (ultimately) did not accept the [what is] as you call it.....that her ex would make some kind of emotional confession. Mainly because a psychic placed the thoughts in her head that he was going to do something, but became argumentative instead, waiting on a confession that did not come, after the predicted time passed. Mind you the predicted scenario could have possibly happened, if she had let things continue on its present course and not look for what the reader told her (by letting it go).
In other words, it appears that because she was looking for it, it did not come and caused it to dissipate, whereas had she not forced its hand, it might have shown on its own. If she truly believed it would happen....she would not have been looking for it to begin with. The same energies we project to manifest things, is the same energy that pushes things away because we want [it] so badly and it is just as strong. I've been told this on numerous occasions.
We are influenced by our thoughts and thoughts placed in our heads by others, even more so when we want the happy ending. And when we are told something is coming, we no longer behave the same way as before nor stay the course, irritably changing the original path we were on.
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Divine,
The operative word is this question is "wait". No one is recommending that anyone wait for anything. Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
I saw this coming from a mile away, but that's the point Bark was trying to make. Sagitira (ultimately) did not accept the [what is] as you call it.....that her ex would make some kind of emotional confession. Mainly because a psychic placed the thoughts in her head that he was going to do something, but became argumentative instead, waiting on a confession that did not come, after the predicted time passed. Mind you the predicted scenario could have possibly happened, if she had let things continue on its present course and not look for what the reader told her (by letting it go).
In other words, it appears that because she was looking for it, it did not come and caused it to dissipate, whereas had she not forced its hand, it might have shown on its own. If she truly believed it would happen....she would not have been looking for it to begin with. The same energies we project to manifest things, is the same energy that pushes things away because we want [it] so badly and it is just as strong. I've been told this on numerous occasions.
We are influenced by our thoughts and thoughts placed in our heads by others, even more so when we want the happy ending. And when we are told something is coming, we no longer behave the same way as before nor stay the course, irritably changing the original path we were on.
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Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
Exactly.
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
I understand what Bark is saying, but I question how much one just has to have faith and "let things happen" before one realizes that its...never going to happen.
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Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
I'll answer these.
If reality starkly draws an alternative picture than the one given in readings, one has to go with your own intuition. If that intuition says reality is correct - you don't need readings. If that intuition suggests that all is not as it appears and your hunch is that there is reason to have hope, then one does so with faith that your own intuition will not fail you..... and again, no readings are necessary if your intuition reflects the predictions being given. So, either way, readings are not really necessary. And I don't think anyone is suggesting they are.
People get more than one reading because they can't rest on one. Either they are not able to derive the faith from the reader they have consulted, or they question the ability of the reader for one reason or another. Fora like this one contribute to people getting multiple readings, by the way. There is so much reported on here about certain readers not being accurate that it causes people that trusted their reading with that psychic to wonder if their trust is misplaced. It's a sad reality, but it is true - I've seen it happen. In fact, the only way to counteract that is to turn to one's inner voice and see what it says.
Finally, a reading should not be contrary to one's own intuition. It should reflect it. If one has the sense that a reading is "too good to be true" chances are it is.
There is no downside to what is being shared here. If one moves along in life with faith, one will not obviate anything else coming into one's life. One simply may have a choice, when those that do not operate in faith have not.
Dismiss the concept of "waiting". A good psychic will never instruct a reader to wait for anything.
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Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
Who said it was jealousy? I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all. And I don't believe the guy vanished either. Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise. If something isn't happening, once has a choice. Stay or leave. Trying to force something had the opposite effect.
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Well, I'll make it more specific: why continue to get readings on a situation when reality shows no movement in your favor? Such as, some of us, who continue to read to about an ex who has since clearly moved on? Taking personal responsibility doesn't only apply to manifesting good predictions, it is also taking into account when the situation has become black and white, and there is no room for our shades of gray.
I am not against getting readings; I wouldn't be here if I were. What I am against, is not placing the proper burden upon these readers when they are wrong.
Divine,
The operative word is this question is "wait". No one is recommending that anyone wait for anything. Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
I saw this coming from a mile away, but that's the point Bark was trying to make. Sagitira (ultimately) did not accept the [what is] as you call it.....that her ex would make some kind of emotional confession. Mainly because a psychic placed the thoughts in her head that he was going to do something, but became argumentative instead, waiting on a confession that did not come, after the predicted time passed. Mind you the predicted scenario could have possibly happened, if she had let things continue on its present course and not look for what the reader told her (by letting it go).
In other words, it appears that because she was looking for it, it did not come and caused it to dissipate, whereas had she not forced its hand, it might have shown on its own. If she truly believed it would happen....she would not have been looking for it to begin with. The same energies we project to manifest things, is the same energy that pushes things away because we want [it] so badly and it is just as strong. I've been told this on numerous occasions.
We are influenced by our thoughts and thoughts placed in our heads by others, even more so when we want the happy ending. And when we are told something is coming, we no longer behave the same way as before nor stay the course, irritably changing the original path we were on.
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Sunandmoon, I'm so happy for you! You and I split from our exes at the same time but I have not been as fortunate as you, lol. Glad to hear all is well, darlin, you deserve it. <3
Thanks decibel! It was a long hard road to get here and I'm so glad I took the chance.
Just keep your eyes and heart open :)
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Divine,
The answer to this is to turn inwards and ask yourself, what does my own voice tell me? If it tells you that it is time to move on, then do so with faith that this relationship ended for the greater good. If your intuition tells you that there's more to come, then move forward in faith that the Universe will bring that to you when the time is right. Either way, the client is moving forward. Either way the faith is intact. Faith in one's own compass.
Holding a reader accountable for being wrong is alright as long as it was just the reader that is wrong. But when there are a number of people in a situation, how can one person be entirely wrong while all the others are entirely right? Doesn't the outcome also depend on how the client reacts as well? The readers are not the only individuals that are accountable. Clearly here sagitira took matters in her own hands. She countermanded the advice of her readers. She had a right, but she should know that by doing that the predictions given were voided. While she did so because she felt it was the right thing to do, it could have altered what was to come.
Well, I'll make it more specific: why continue to get readings on a situation when reality shows no movement in your favor? Such as, some of us, who continue to read to about an ex who has since clearly moved on? Taking personal responsibility doesn't only apply to manifesting good predictions, it is also taking into account when the situation has become black and white, and there is no room for our shades of gray.
I am not against getting readings; I wouldn't be here if I were. What I am against, is not placing the proper burden upon these readers when they are wrong.
Divine,
The operative word is this question is "wait". No one is recommending that anyone wait for anything. Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
Bark, why do you always find it necessary to clarify someone's understanding? If Sagitira feels a certain way about her readings, why not just allow her those thoughts, without interjecting what you think "really happened"? Be mindful, as you usually ask us to be, that you were not there to hear the readings, nor were you there to experience her emotions.
I am not trying to be confrontational; it is just bothersome that you tend to take this approach when others have come to accept what is.
I saw this coming from a mile away, but that's the point Bark was trying to make. Sagitira (ultimately) did not accept the [what is] as you call it.....that her ex would make some kind of emotional confession. Mainly because a psychic placed the thoughts in her head that he was going to do something, but became argumentative instead, waiting on a confession that did not come, after the predicted time passed. Mind you the predicted scenario could have possibly happened, if she had let things continue on its present course and not look for what the reader told her (by letting it go).
In other words, it appears that because she was looking for it, it did not come and caused it to dissipate, whereas had she not forced its hand, it might have shown on its own. If she truly believed it would happen....she would not have been looking for it to begin with. The same energies we project to manifest things, is the same energy that pushes things away because we want [it] so badly and it is just as strong. I've been told this on numerous occasions.
We are influenced by our thoughts and thoughts placed in our heads by others, even more so when we want the happy ending. And when we are told something is coming, we no longer behave the same way as before nor stay the course, irritably changing the original path we were on.
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Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
Who said it was jealousy? I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all. And I don't believe the guy vanished either. Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise. If something isn't happening, once has a choice. Stay or leave. Trying to force something had the opposite effect.
I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".
And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.
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Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
Who said it was jealousy? I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all. And I don't believe the guy vanished either. Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise. If something isn't happening, once has a choice. Stay or leave. Trying to force something had the opposite effect.
I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".
And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.
I think we can both agree that acting jealously is not putting stuff out there to get feedback. One is done to evoke a desired response, the other is done to evoke a response regardless of whether it is the desired or not. That said, there is always something to be said for taking control of a situation and determining its fate. I'm not recommending that people put off what they wish to do, like I said you have to go with your gut. However the person that prefers to air the matter now and not wait for the future to unfold is not the ideal candidate for psychic readings in my opinion. If one is not inclined to let things unfold in their own time, why get a psychic reading in the first place? They are mainly to give you a glimpse of what is yet to come, aren't they?
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Did I just read the operative word WAIT? Hhhmmm
Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
Who said it was jealousy? I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all. And I don't believe the guy vanished either. Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise. If something isn't happening, once has a choice. Stay or leave. Trying to force something had the opposite effect.
I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".
And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.
I think we can both agree that acting jealously is not putting stuff out there to get feedback. One is done to evoke a desired response, the other is done to evoke a response regardless of whether it is the desired or not. That said, there is always something to be said for taking control of a situation and determining its fate. I'm not recommending that people put off what they wish to do, like I said you have to go with your gut. However the person that prefers to air the matter now and not wait for the future to unfold is not the ideal candidate for psychic readings in my opinion. If one is not inclined to let things unfold in their own time, why get a psychic reading in the first place? They are mainly to give you a glimpse of what is yet to come, aren't they?
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I believe the point is, we would not have blown in a certain direction had we not continually spun on something a reader told us.
I am not against getting readings; I wouldn't be here if I were. What I am against, is not placing the proper burden upon these readers when they are wrong.
You are 1000% percent right about this, as far as I'm concerned because I believe this as well and no one said anything about being passive. Don't get me wrong, I also agree with your sentiment that if I am feeling jealous I would expect my partner to comfort and support me, but to stay in his face and harp about it and continually bemoan our plight will chase anything away.
For one thing, I personally find it detrimental to get a reading about a relationship, considering how volatile emotions are, even if it puts you at ease for the moment.
All I was saying is letting things go (this seems to be the biggest hump for most people) because it's very, very difficult to do. Trust me. Did I say 'very' difficult already? We don't need to keep grasping for something that we believe should already be ours. This only results in pushing our desires away, which may also explain why time frames keep getting pushed further and further out.
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Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given? Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out".
Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone. Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!
This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear. The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.
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Honestly, I don't believe that was anyone's intent. Place any of our names in Sagitira's story as a substitute, because many of us have been where she was (she and her story was just an example). I was only offering up another alternative as to why opposites manifest based on my experiences due to what has happened to me.
In no way, shape or form could I even imagine swaying anyone to believe in false hope.
We all come upon our own understanding in time, when we're ready.
Happy Friday everyone! ::)
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Give over, please. You know that the essence of the post is to move forward and let things unfold in their own time!
Did I just read the operative word WAIT? Hhhmmm
Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
Who said it was jealousy? I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all. And I don't believe the guy vanished either. Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise. If something isn't happening, once has a choice. Stay or leave. Trying to force something had the opposite effect.
I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".
And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.
I think we can both agree that acting jealously is not putting stuff out there to get feedback. One is done to evoke a desired response, the other is done to evoke a response regardless of whether it is the desired or not. That said, there is always something to be said for taking control of a situation and determining its fate. I'm not recommending that people put off what they wish to do, like I said you have to go with your gut. However the person that prefers to air the matter now and not wait for the future to unfold is not the ideal candidate for psychic readings in my opinion. If one is not inclined to let things unfold in their own time, why get a psychic reading in the first place? They are mainly to give you a glimpse of what is yet to come, aren't they?
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In all fairness, though, I would not mind at all if the same support (let's call it peanut gallery input) were offered when psychics are accurate. Doesn't happen though. The most outspoken ones (and it is clear which ones are) become completely mute when something happens that proves a psychic to have real talent. Too bad really because I do not think this was the intent of this place at the outset. This forum has taken on a decidedly-negative overtone.
Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given? Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out".
Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone. Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!
This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear. The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.
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Did I just read the operative word WAIT? Hhhmmm
Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?
So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.
If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.
Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.
Who said it was jealousy? I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all. And I don't believe the guy vanished either. Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise. If something isn't happening, once has a choice. Stay or leave. Trying to force something had the opposite effect.
I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".
And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.
I think we can both agree that acting jealously is not putting stuff out there to get feedback. One is done to evoke a desired response, the other is done to evoke a response regardless of whether it is the desired or not. That said, there is always something to be said for taking control of a situation and determining its fate. I'm not recommending that people put off what they wish to do, like I said you have to go with your gut. However the person that prefers to air the matter now and not wait for the future to unfold is not the ideal candidate for psychic readings in my opinion. If one is not inclined to let things unfold in their own time, why get a psychic reading in the first place? They are mainly to give you a glimpse of what is yet to come, aren't they?
The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?
you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.
Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.
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I believe the point is, we would not have blown in a certain direction had we not continually spun on something a reader told us.
I am not against getting readings; I wouldn't be here if I were. What I am against, is not placing the proper burden upon these readers when they are wrong.
You are 1000% percent right about this, as far as I'm concerned because I believe this as well and no one said anything about being passive. Don't get me wrong, I also agree with your sentiment that if I am feeling jealous I would expect my partner to comfort and support me, but to stay in his face and harp about it and continually bemoan our plight will chase anything away.
For one thing, I personally find it detrimental to get a reading about a relationship, considering how volatile emotions are, even if it puts you at ease for the moment.
All I was saying is letting things go (this seems to be the biggest hump for most people) because it's very, very difficult to do. Trust me. Did I say 'very' difficult already? We don't need to keep grasping for something that we believe should already be ours. This only results in pushing our desires away, which may also explain why time frames keep getting pushed further and further out.
And I agree, you shouldn't obssess over something. But letting things go is always a good idea when the person has let go as well. It doesn't mean you will always get what you want either.
Time frames keep coming and going because readers guess and don't have any sense of timing. Or they are just plain wrong.
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In all fairness, though, I would not mind at all if the same support (let's call it peanut gallery input) were offered when psychics are accurate. Doesn't happen though. The most outspoken ones (and it is clear which ones are) become completely mute when something happens that proves a psychic to have real talent. Too bad really because I do not think this was the intent of this place at the outset. This forum has taken on a decidedly-negative overtone.
Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given? Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out".
Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone. Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!
This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear. The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.
Bark, everyone here believes that psychics have a talent..whether that talent is consistent, accurate, or useful in the long term is what everyone is starting to question. I don't think that is negative.
I don't believe anyone here was trying to pick apart Sagrita..only to use her as an example (where we have all been) when trying to communicate our views about psychics. We are not all going to agree on this forum and that is ok.
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Bark, everyone here believes that psychics have a talent..whether that talent is consistent, accurate, or useful in the long term is what everyone is starting to question. I don't think that is negative.
I don't believe anyone here was trying to pick apart Sagrita..only to use her as an example (where we have all been) when trying to communicate our views about psychics. We are not all going to agree on this forum and that is ok.
I am saying that some, note *some* psychics have talent predicting the future and not just information that is regarded as not useful. And I say that regardless of what some of the outspoken members here would like to assert.
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The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?
you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.
Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.
Please note that "waiting for things to unfold" does NOT involve "waiting". Let's say I should have probably used the expression "allow things to unfold in their own time". Better?
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I guess it is left to interpretation of letting things unfold in their own time, and what you do with the time while things are unfolding.
Just a fancy way of saying....you are waiting!
The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?
you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.
Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.
Please note that "waiting for things to unfold" does NOT involve "waiting". Let's say I should have probably used the expression "allow things to unfold in their own time". Better?
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No matter how you try to slice it, no, it is not the same interpretation. What about the words "moving forward" do you not understand? You are trying to equate "moving forward" with "waiting" and the two are not at all the same thing. You are trying too hard, Kicking, but it's not working! ;)
I guess it is left to interpretation of letting things unfold in their own time, and what you do with the time while things are unfolding.
Just a fancy way of saying....you are waiting!
The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?
you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.
Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.
Please note that "waiting for things to unfold" does NOT involve "waiting". Let's say I should have probably used the expression "allow things to unfold in their own time". Better?
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WARNING: This is going to be a long post full of truth, there is no explanation for these failed predictions other than the psychic was wrong. I do not agree with the theory that the prediction did not happen because we wanted it to much, and all of the other reason listed in this thread today.
The responsibility is not being placed on these readers for being WRONG. The reader is NOT your friend; you are paying them for a service that they should be held accountable for. I do not understand why some people defend the reader when the reader is simply WRONG!
Example: Planning a trip to a location on a specific date, you get to the location only to find the hotel changed your reservation and delayed it six weeks….what do you do? Do you sleep in the parking lot and check back with the desk clerk hoping for a room? Do you continue to spend money with this resort hoping they will “come up” with a room for you? Hell NO! You take the situation into your own hands and find a place to stay. Most of us would lose our shit and get a refund! Many of us would write a letter and let someone know about our experience…I think you all know where this example is going. A service was/is paid for we expect what are paying for. What is the point of a reservation if nothing is available when we arrive? Hoping at some point the resort will find us a room?
What is the point or advantage of a reading if the reader is wrong? Most of the information cannot be validated anyway, how can you validate feelings when someone is not even talking to you? How can you validate a relationship that is nonexistent? Our intuition is NOT always correct, often it is clouded by our wants…feelings and emotions lie to you! When we are caught up in the hopes and desires of a situation, our judgment is clouded and often our interpretation of our feelings are incorrect.
For those of you who are good at giving reasons why situations didn’t manifest as the reader said it would, and clearly do not hold the reader accountable…tackle this situation and let us all know what the caller did wrong, because it seems that a few here choose to believe the reader and not the reality as it is presented.
The caller, based on feedback, called regarding a broken relationship....of course the guy would come back! In the situations below timelines were pushed out, he was confused, blah blah blah. These guys either MARRIED SOMEONE ELSE, or got ENGAGED. Keen is full of feedback like these yet people on this forum choose to defend the reader and offer excuses for something so huge the reader SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT. A marriage is a life changing event, it should be seen...period
Jamisonboys1123 According to her feedback her ex left her and her children. Readers have told her he will be back. He moved in with his girlfriend, got engaged, and is now married to the other woman, now known as his WIFE. Below is some of her feedback. What did she do that stopped her readings from manifesting? Did she think about him so much that it caused him to marry someone else? Silly explanation isn’t it?
8/6/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, it was nice speaking with you about my ex. I'm glad he is not happy every since he left me and my kids
10/16/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, your still see me and my ex getting back together hopefully before Thanksgiving
11/11/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I really speaking with you it's crazy that you remembered me and Ihhaven't spoken with in awhile. You still seeing me and my ex getting back together after Thanksgiving. I hope your prediction comes to pass.
11/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars You still seeing him coming back to me and you said in a couple everything will work out in my favor I hope your right but I will call back Monday. I hope your prediction comes to pass.
12/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I like what your telling me I believe in what your telling me. But he asked the girl to marry him. You said he's going to come back I really hope your right. I will email next week I hope prediction comes to pass
1/15/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much, you said that me and my ex will get back together you you said play hard to get fresh myself up so can get jealous you said he will need me. The girl he's with he really don't love her and you said the baby that suppose to be his its not. But this month or next he'll be back with me
1/16/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars First time speaking with you, I hope your prediction comes to pass. You said that me and my ex belongs together you see us as soul mates and he should come back to me next month. I'll call for an update
1/26/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much you still see my ex coming forward next month. you see the girl in question that's she's controlling not with him for the right reason. That he has been thinking about me when he was happy when we was together. I'll call for update.
3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.
Situation 2: Denahaspeace: Based on her feedback she was in a LTR with a guy who ended up getting married to someone else. Of course she was given the happy fairy tale ending, the only problem was he married someone else.
4/25/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars I feel she was very good! I'm in a very bad situation. Probably more calm than I should be. But she calmed me more, gave me insights and predictions I've always believed in. I hope that this isn't more blind hope. I believe you - I know he loves me. I cannot believe he's done this. But regardless I am going to take care of me, take my power back and enjoy him when he comes crawling back. I talked to you for a long time, sorry ran out of funds! She's good - give her a try
8/17/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars Thank you so much Jane, you've been very insightful and helpful - you saw him getting engaged or coming home possibly married before he went. But you also said, this is fishy, not okay, dark and somehow he gets out of this mess and ends up with me. This story is so bizarre it's been helpful to have your insight!
Situation 3: Keepher79: Based on her feedback the guy she was calling about, the one that would come back, got engaged….just not to her.
10/10/2012 Keepher79 2 stars We chatted on 10/10. You were clear that he was nonchalent (sp?) about his love life. He got engaged this weekend (10/13-14). I think that's about the most decisive thing a man can do in his love life ...
PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES! There are many more!
In all of these cases the readers were WRONG! The callers were told the guy was coming back, timelines were pushed out and the guy ended up getting married to someone else.
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OK, I'll bite...no one is saying that readers cannot be wrong. And the analogy between getting a psychic reading and booking a hotel room is a little weak. Psychics read "probabilities". Nothing carved in stone. You may as well compare buying a psychic reading with getting psychiatric counseling. If the client pays they should get well right? But it doesn't always work out that way.
I don't think anyone that posts on this forum believes every psychic or that every prediction comes to fruition, and it is heartbreaking to read when poor vulnerable souls are taken advantage of, but what caliber reader are we speaking of here? You didn't post which reader(s) lead this poor person along. Caveat emptor!
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OK, I'll bite...no one is saying that readers cannot be wrong. And the analogy between getting a psychic reading and booking a hotel room is a little weak. Psychics read "probabilities". Nothing carved in stone. You may as well compare buying a psychic reading with getting psychiatric counseling. If the client pays they should get well right? But it doesn't always work out that way.
I don't think anyone that posts on this forum believes every psychic or that every prediction comes to fruition, and it is heartbreaking to read when poor vulnerable souls are taken advantage of, but what caliber reader are we speaking of here? You didn't post which reader(s) lead this poor person along. Caveat emptor!
At this point, I don't think that matters for most clients on here. Even the ones that see all of these accurate interesting details about us,often end up being wrong.
Can psychics be right? Sure. Can they get timing wrong and mislead us about when something will happen? Absolutely. Can they be dead wrong? Yes!
Should you count on these readings having any significant bearing on your life and exisitance? No! The reality is that 99 percent of clients expect readers to be right about timing and predictions when it comes to our lives. And 99 percent just can't deliver. Live your life as how you would before you even knew that there were psychics on keen. If you are miserable, live out the misery until its no longer in your pores. It sure beats "waiting" and delaying healing, which is what a fairly good, well intentioned psychic can do to us. This goes for anything you are calling about, not just relationships.
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Yep! That sounds like my readings with the majority of the people I read with but only a few were right on certain things but I was in a situation similar to the ones below. The guy I was dating for 7 months LIVED with his girlfriend and her four kids! How do you not get that, and when he broke things off with me he ended up being with some other chick with two kids! That wasn't picked up by nobody!...anyone. I know it was my fault to even ask about this new guy. Like I know it was stupid to ask. I guess because I kinda would only get readings in regards to my job and made the mistake of asking about a guy. Look at how I'm feeling now. Or felt I should say. I felt insecure and wanted to push him out before he could hurt me because that's the vibe the readers are giving me. I wasn't trying to start anything between nobody on here, I was simply asking if this has ever happened to anybody else.
WARNING: This is going to be a long post full of truth, there is no explanation for these failed predictions other than the psychic was wrong. I do not agree with the theory that the prediction did not happen because we wanted it to much, and all of the other reason listed in this thread today.
The responsibility is not being placed on these readers for being WRONG. The reader is NOT your friend; you are paying them for a service that they should be held accountable for. I do not understand why some people defend the reader when the reader is simply WRONG!
Example: Planning a trip to a location on a specific date, you get to the location only to find the hotel changed your reservation and delayed it six weeks….what do you do? Do you sleep in the parking lot and check back with the desk clerk hoping for a room? Do you continue to spend money with this resort hoping they will “come up” with a room for you? Hell NO! You take the situation into your own hands and find a place to stay. Most of us would lose our shit and get a refund! Many of us would write a letter and let someone know about our experience…I think you all know where this example is going. A service was/is paid for we expect what are paying for. What is the point of a reservation if nothing is available when we arrive? Hoping at some point the resort will find us a room?
What is the point or advantage of a reading if the reader is wrong? Most of the information cannot be validated anyway, how can you validate feelings when someone is not even talking to you? How can you validate a relationship that is nonexistent? Our intuition is NOT always correct, often it is clouded by our wants…feelings and emotions lie to you! When we are caught up in the hopes and desires of a situation, our judgment is clouded and often our interpretation of our feelings are incorrect.
For those of you who are good at giving reasons why situations didn’t manifest as the reader said it would, and clearly do not hold the reader accountable…tackle this situation and let us all know what the caller did wrong, because it seems that a few here choose to believe the reader and not the reality as it is presented.
The caller, based on feedback, called regarding a broken relationship....of course the guy would come back! In the situations below timelines were pushed out, he was confused, blah blah blah. These guys either MARRIED SOMEONE ELSE, or got ENGAGED. Keen is full of feedback like these yet people on this forum choose to defend the reader and offer excuses for something so huge the reader SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT. A marriage is a life changing event, it should be seen...period
Jamisonboys1123 According to her feedback her ex left her and her children. Readers have told her he will be back. He moved in with his girlfriend, got engaged, and is now married to the other woman, now known as his WIFE. Below is some of her feedback. What did she do that stopped her readings from manifesting? Did she think about him so much that it caused him to marry someone else? Silly explanation isn’t it?
8/6/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, it was nice speaking with you about my ex. I'm glad he is not happy every since he left me and my kids
10/16/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, your still see me and my ex getting back together hopefully before Thanksgiving
11/11/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I really speaking with you it's crazy that you remembered me and Ihhaven't spoken with in awhile. You still seeing me and my ex getting back together after Thanksgiving. I hope your prediction comes to pass.
11/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars You still seeing him coming back to me and you said in a couple everything will work out in my favor I hope your right but I will call back Monday. I hope your prediction comes to pass.
12/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I like what your telling me I believe in what your telling me. But he asked the girl to marry him. You said he's going to come back I really hope your right. I will email next week I hope prediction comes to pass
1/15/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much, you said that me and my ex will get back together you you said play hard to get fresh myself up so can get jealous you said he will need me. The girl he's with he really don't love her and you said the baby that suppose to be his its not. But this month or next he'll be back with me
1/16/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars First time speaking with you, I hope your prediction comes to pass. You said that me and my ex belongs together you see us as soul mates and he should come back to me next month. I'll call for an update
1/26/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much you still see my ex coming forward next month. you see the girl in question that's she's controlling not with him for the right reason. That he has been thinking about me when he was happy when we was together. I'll call for update.
3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.
Situation 2: Denahaspeace: Based on her feedback she was in a LTR with a guy who ended up getting married to someone else. Of course she was given the happy fairy tale ending, the only problem was he married someone else.
4/25/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars I feel she was very good! I'm in a very bad situation. Probably more calm than I should be. But she calmed me more, gave me insights and predictions I've always believed in. I hope that this isn't more blind hope. I believe you - I know he loves me. I cannot believe he's done this. But regardless I am going to take care of me, take my power back and enjoy him when he comes crawling back. I talked to you for a long time, sorry ran out of funds! She's good - give her a try
8/17/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars Thank you so much Jane, you've been very insightful and helpful - you saw him getting engaged or coming home possibly married before he went. But you also said, this is fishy, not okay, dark and somehow he gets out of this mess and ends up with me. This story is so bizarre it's been helpful to have your insight!
Situation 3: Keepher79: Based on her feedback the guy she was calling about, the one that would come back, got engaged….just not to her.
10/10/2012 Keepher79 2 stars We chatted on 10/10. You were clear that he was nonchalent (sp?) about his love life. He got engaged this weekend (10/13-14). I think that's about the most decisive thing a man can do in his love life ...
PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES! There are many more!
In all of these cases the readers were WRONG! The callers were told the guy was coming back, timelines were pushed out and the guy ended up getting married to someone else.
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wow, i just got home and so many posts. let me respond individually:
@barkangel - when i first started calling psychics it was about 4 months after we got together because i started developing feelings. i totally believe what psychics told me as his actions then did match his words and i know now that he indeed had deeper feelings for me. however then something happened and he became distant, things changed and of course psychics were saying he was just having a hard time, he doesn't know how to leave the other woman (his gf) and he will leave her within few weeks, then it became months etc. so when things were not moving i did become upset and questioned a few things of course as i wanted my own validation that psychics were right about how he felt.
of course i had expectations from him to share his feelings as he never verbalised it but actions showed he had deeper feelings. and yes i agree my insecurity has put our relationship in a rough spot. i dont want to share too much details on the forum but the way things actually evolved was TOTALLY different from what psychics predicted in fact what happened NONE of the psychics picked up and to be honest it's such a huge thing that i really believe it should have been picked up by many psychics.
the thing is if you are able to be realistic and not let the psychic readings get to you then of course that is something i wish i was able to do when i was calling psychics. it's easy to say do not let anyone trump your own intuition but believe me whilst i was calling psychics for some reason i was unable to listen to my gut feeling or better said i kind of lost this ability. this however returned about 2 weeks after i stopped calling psychics. so sadly i feel like my intuition was gone completely after a few months of me calling psychics. i truly thought me and him would end up together because i was in love with him. however now i am glad i got my intuition back and yes i am totally listening to what i feel is right thing to do.
@lovelygirl = i also would only call about my job or to have a general reading. i will never be calling about love interest especially if i fall in love with someone. i'm glad thought you were able to recognise this soon enough and spared yourself a lot of sadness. i don't know but for some reason NO PSYCHIC was ever correct when it comes to love predictions. none. and i consulted way over hundred psychics. (ashamed to admit it but it's true)
@decibel diva - yes unfortunately so far i can say psychics were hundred percent wrong. there were a few who did not see us ending up together - Kisha was one of them even though many other predictions didn't happen. elizabeth3 sees me with someone else even though she believes i would be able to chose at some point (i know he will not be the one as i will not allow it anymore). Donna Maxine (another psychic from UK) was very good and her predictions are pending however she also did not see me ending up with him. so there are few who saw the negative outcome (they all saw a new man for me) but i cannot comment much as timeframes have not passed yet. all the rest was just plain wrong. i will update or try to give feedback for individual psychics. i did this on another forum already but will try and provide detailed feedback here as well soon.
@zee - yes i was thinking that too that maybe he would confess if i calmed down a bit but then again once i got to know him better i understood that he would not want to lead me on and felt that if he said i love you or got close to me i would have hopes and he was unable to leave his gf - he just couldn't do it - THOSE ARE HIS WORDS ACTUALLY... so even if he did have deeper feelings for me he would not admit this to me. by the way the example with him confessing his feelings to me is just one of many predictions where psychics were just wrong. it is hard to let go when you are strongly in love and you feel the other person feels same way - i wasn't even thinking about letting go to be honest. it's same as if i tell someone who just started having readings - please don't have any because i've been there just cut the contact and start healing = i would not even listen to this person a year ago. i would continue callling psychics and having this hope that one day he would leave her and be with me.
and yes i wanted him to confess i really did.
but there were other predictions i didn't pay much attention to. only when after a year i relistened to my readings i realised ok well this never happened or that didn't happen either- those are the ones i forgot about, didn't obsess yet to this date they all failed to manifest. so sometimes even letting go won't bring you what you want. if it's not meant to be it's not meant to be. that's how i see things now. i just had to accept it.
but you are very right we ARE INFLUENCED BY OUR THOUGHTS in fact our thoughts are often the direct cause of our depression. i have changed the way i think there were several books that helped me so my thinking is mostly positive or if it is negative i make sure i turn any thought that is negative to positive. i have been doing this daily for some time now and it's powerful. but doesn't change the fact that things didn't happen. even those that i didn't obsess about and just let go. it just wasn't meant to be and i take it as i believe i'm supposed to be with someone else not with my ex. only future will tell.
@bark - i do have faith but DEFINITELY NOT IN PSYCHICS. my faith now turned to God and i do regret having readings in the first place. but this is my opinion only. i'm not telling people to believe or not to believe. i'm sharing my experience for others who are in similar situation. for them to see that they are not alone, that there is nothing wrong with them, and that there are ways how to let go and heal. but most importantly i wanna share my experience so that others are able to recognise when they are becoming addicted to psychcis and have the strength to stop. because if you were never in the same situation where you call psychics almost daily then those people will never understand the harm it can actually cause. so my intention is not to bash psychics but to try and help others.
@bstalling mentioned a very interesting point:how much one just has to have faith and "let things happen" before one realizes that its...never going to happen. this is another thing why i wanted to share my story - becasue it took over 2 years. 2 years wasted and so much money spent. i should have realised time ago that it was never going to happen the way i wanted it. but we all learn from our mistakes.
by the way the guy is still in my life, we do see each other daily (due to some circumstance) but we are civil with each other now. in my situation it is sadly not possible to just cut contact. the only reason why i have been able to move on now and try to let go is because i have opened my eyes, started to see things the way they are and now i know that it won't happen. i hit the rock bottom and decided that life does go on and i have to get on with my life best i can.
@bark
I'll answer these.
If reality starkly draws an alternative picture than the one given in readings, one has to go with your own intuition. If that intuition says reality is correct - you don't need readings. If that intuition suggests that all is not as it appears and your hunch is that there is reason to have hope, then one does so with faith that your own intuition will not fail you..... and again, no readings are necessary if your intuition reflects the predictions being given. So, either way, readings are not really necessary. And I don't think anyone is suggesting they are.
this is all good of course only if you are NOT ADDICTED TO READINGS. many many people are addicted to psychic readings. i was addicted, in love and obsessed - you could be standing next to me telling me to listen to my intuition and act on it i would not listen to you and still think and say that you were wrong. that's how blinded i got at one point during my psychic craze. when you are not addicted and see things clearly like i can see now then yes i agree with you. a year ago i would be arguing with you about this because I WAS ADDICTED TO PSYCHIC READINGS. i had to have a reading "just to make sure his feelings haven't changed" how sad was that. readings made me feel better. they calmed me down. i was able to go to sleep because reader told me how my ex was coming back.
i was jealous (i didn't show it to him but inside i was hurting bad) and i did ask for answers but not in crazy way, when i said i got jealous and crazy over him it was happening inside me. not on the outside. i did cause arguments because i asked a few times things that i should not have asked. i did get upset more easily, i got irritated more etc. so it had affect on our relationship which caused arguments. i lost my confidence and inner peace over this. i am great now and have been for some time.
and of course my actions could have altered the outcome however explain why other things i did not obsess over failed to manifest as well. even if i didn't act the way i acted something happened that made it impossible for him to leave the girl even a year ago. unfortunately NOBODY saw this coming and if HE DID LEAVE HER then i would have lost all respect for him and leave him because i would not trust that he would not leave me if i was in the same situation (i will not post what happened if someone wants to know they can pm me) but believe me i KNOW he would not leave her even if i never argued with him over this one thing that happened. plus he very recently confirmed this to me verbally. so yes i believe psychics should have seen this coming. out of hundreds at least one! but none of them did. none.
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Clearly here sagitira took matters in her own hands. She countermanded the advice of her readers.
no i did not countermanded advise of my readers. their advise was all different. some advised me to pull away, some asked me to confront him and some said not to do a thing.
of course i will take matters in my own hands - from now on i will always do that.
sorry guys i haven't finished all the posts i'm totally out have to have some sleep but i will read the rest and try to respond to all questions or comments about my story.
the good thing is i was able to recognise my addiction to psychics, see the reality for what it was and stop the crazy calling. since then i have been happy. i haven't cried once (i used to cry every day over him) and i feel like i started living again. yes i'm very angry with psychics because of what i have gone through. if others believe and want to believe in psychics they can. we all have our own beliefs so if you believe psychics are right and can see the future then by all means do. i am only pointing out that believing and waiting for predictions to happen can have devastating effects on people's emotional and physical wellbeing. when i see someone positing that prediction happened - even small one i feel happy for that person. sadly psychics only proved to me that they cannot see futures since things failed to manifest - not only about my love life but also about my family (no way i could affect anything and my family doesn't get readings so they never knew i had readings so how could i affect those predictions?) also about my health and my job - not a single prediction happened. i'm not even sad about it. i am happy as i have learnt a lot and will try to help all others who are suffering same way and need emotional help or support as i cannot bear to see others going through same pain i had gone through. i do not wish this upon anyone.
i wll try and post more tomorrow i'm sorry if i haven't responded to other posts i just havent' read them yet :) good nite everyone (for me is night anyway)
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This board isn't about negativity....AT ALL....It's REAL reviews....Take it or leave it. REVIEWS of pyshics that we all have read with. It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
When I was in the depths of my despair, how on earth could I not believe when they knew so much? How when I'm so effin heartbroken, can I follow my gut, when the readers are telling me so convincingly otherwise....How could they know certain things!?!?!?!
When Sagitira was TOLD things would happen in a certain time frame, why is she to blame when NOTHING happend then or never? Why should she have NOT believed them it would happen? Where was the disclaimer that said "what I am telling you probably will NOT happen"? If I remember correctly she read for over TWO (2) years. She read with some really good readers too. Some that members on here were quite fond of.
There has been so much feedback HERE that some have listened to a psychics advice, only to have it BLOW UP in their face.
This is a PYSCHIC REVIEW BOARD to give HONEST Feedback of the psychics that people have spoken to. How dare anyone pick apart someone elses experience. How Dare anyone blame Sagiria for things not happening as told.....You have got to be kidding me or yourself on that one.
I know me, that I would give my timelines a month or two more, as you know, timing isn't a science. lol. NOTHING HAPPENED!!! Even a Year Later. Oh, and in case you're wondering, I DID NOTHING.
So is that my fault too? Is it my fault that nothing happened that I paid a fortune for? Or did I pick the wrong readers? I don't know, can you tell me? Or are they all just so wrong with timing? Do I just say they're just not good with timing and Give it another year or so? (these are rhetorical questions btw).
I personally agree with Kicking's analogy of a hotel room. When you are told something, especially that you paid dearly for it, it's almost the same as a hotel reservation that you paid for. They should be held accountable.
As far as Jameson's or whomever's feedback, it makes me sick.
I was in the store the other day, and the radio station that they had on was one with "John Tesch" and if you've ever heard his show, you'd know what I'm talking about. Anyway, he was talking about social media when you break up with someone....about how even looking at his/her fb page is like a high. that it was addictive. following their tweets or posts, or reviewing old texts..how it releases endorphines...ADDICTION....those were his words folks...He used the work addiction. And that was only applied to following his/her fb or what not. How you needed to move on.....defriend, erase numbers and texts and so on.....too bad he didn't know the cash cow of psychics.... Man...I could only imagine what he would have said about that kind of addiction....
And to think that because I'm a member here, on a review board, that would make my predictions stall.....lol. Really? Are you effin kidding me? So is that the new "for entertainment purposes only" it will now say "if you share your experience it will make all I say null and void or make them so far out you'll be an old lady by then, so don't do it" ?????
Oh, and by the way, my ex husband called me today just to shoot the breeze, catch up, we were on the phone for 30 min. And you know what? I still don't want to get back with him. lol. No matter how many dreams I have had of him.
When you stop calling and you let your emotions and your logic get on the same page, is when you see the truth of the situation....at least for me, that's what worked. And I will not be held responsible, as I was a member here, as I truly believed for a really long time...really long. With all my heart I did...
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It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
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For the love of all that is HOLY!!! When will the outcome present itself? 25 years from now?
It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
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Hey Bark, decidedly-negative, or knowingly-realistic, tomato/tomahtoe...
Why not raise the positive and tell us who got your amazing prediction 3 weeks ago? Remember that one where you said we should PM you for details? Keep it open...
In all fairness, though, I would not mind at all if the same support (let's call it peanut gallery input) were offered when psychics are accurate. Doesn't happen though. The most outspoken ones (and it is clear which ones are) become completely mute when something happens that proves a psychic to have real talent. Too bad really because I do not think this was the intent of this place at the outset. This forum has taken on a decidedly-negative overtone.
Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given? Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out".
Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone. Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!
This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear. The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.
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Would it be safe to say you and your ex are back together? Isnt that what everyone has been telling you for two years? So, when do you decided that the outcome is indeed opposite of what you were told?
It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
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It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
Ok, I stand corrected....For 99% of the people who have posted on this board....not 100%. Sorry for the misinformation.
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Correction Bella, 99.8%
It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
Ok, I stand corrected....For 99% of the people who have posted on this board....not 100%. Sorry for the misinformation.
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Again, I stand corrected.....99.8% is more like it.
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I haven't heard one positive OUTCOME prediction from anyone on this forum. Not one. And I know a couple of people who used to post regularly who no longer come on here because one of them is engaged to someone other than the guy all the readers said would come back (mind you, he never did) and the other has a new boyfriend (the ex never came back either).
I have been waiting for someone, anyone to post of the final positive outcome and no one has. NO ONE.
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Because of this sort of reaction, no person of right-mind would share anything of value on a forum like this. You are all so negative. So, I can't jump on your bandwagon. If you think all psychics are wrong, so be it. You won't be interested in knowing which one(s) were right for me!
And for those of you that are curious, PM me. I learned long ago that to share anything on here with some of you was a waste of time and effort and just an open invitation for a witch hunt. Let me be the first to say I have had many predictions manifest. So all of you who are inclined to speak in hyperbole...please change your black/white; 100%/0%; yes/no; all/none reporting to reflect that. Would it be safe to say you and your ex are back together? Isnt that what everyone has been telling you for two years? So, when do you decided that the outcome is indeed opposite of what you were told?
It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
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That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
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And it's not that we're negative people, at least I know I'm not, but if nothing POSITIVE happens that they say, then I have nothing POSITIVE to post, do I? I know you don't look at it that way, but really now. If nothing they say happens, how on earth can I post a positive experience?
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I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.
That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
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Hhhmmm, synergy has posted positive and negative outocomes and the only witch hunt...as you call it...has been people like you, Bark, who try to turn the reading around....when in fact the outcome presented itself.
The truth always has a funny way of appearing regardless of what fairy tale is sold.
I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
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Whatever, kicking.
Hhhmmm, synergy has posted positive and negative outocomes and the only witch hunt...as you call it...has been people like you, Bark, who try to turn the reading around....when in fact the outcome presented itself.
The truth always has a funny way of appearing regardless of what fairy tale is sold.
I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
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Well Cinderella, if the shoe fits wear it.
Whatever, kicking.
Hhhmmm, synergy has posted positive and negative outocomes and the only witch hunt...as you call it...has been people like you, Bark, who try to turn the reading around....when in fact the outcome presented itself.
The truth always has a funny way of appearing regardless of what fairy tale is sold.
I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
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I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
Why are you saying it's a witch hunt, when all I am asking is for you to post a positive prediction happening, or any prediction for that matter, actually happening....why not give this board the positivity that seems to be lacking...? why not post of YOUR experiences? I don't understand that, as when anyone posts of their negative readings/experiences you just pick it apart, implying they didn't read with reputable readers or timing or their own wrong doings....
And I honestly mean it, I would love to hear something happening for someone here...Why don't you post? I don't care how small a thing it is...why not post it?
It's not an attact on you Bark...really it isn't..it's an honest question is all.
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I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
Why are you saying it's a witch hunt, when all I am asking is for you to post a positive prediction happening, or any prediction for that matter, actually happening....why not give this board the positivity that seems to be lacking...? why not post of YOUR experiences? I don't understand that, as when anyone posts of their negative readings/experiences you just pick it apart, implying they didn't read with reputable readers or timing or their own wrong doings....
And I honestly mean it, I would love to hear something happening for someone here...Why don't you post? I don't care how small a thing it is...why not post it?
It's not an attact on you Bark...really it isn't..it's an honest question is all.
I agree. Why not share a verifiable, actual positive prediction that happened? If no one is posting positive FINAL OUTCOMES..can you blame us for doubting psychics in general? This is your chance to provide us with a different view that is backed by something that happened in your life.
Barbara almost was right for me. Ex-fiance did propose...but he still had emotional issues and would not make a good husband. Were not engaged anymore. That is the closest that I can come to a final prediction happening for me...and it wasn't so positive.
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ok i also forgot to add that when i questioned psychics about my outcome they (i'd say 90percent of them) told me outcome is an outcome and can't be changed. they have the cheek to say that they are right and won't change their prediction (when i'm telling them that opposite was happening) they would still not admit that they were wrong. i'm sure if i read with them now after some time passed and said it still didn't happen they would either still tell me the same outcome or say it was free will...i have to laugh...
i also believe psychics SHOULD take their jobs much more seriously. at the end of the day they are taking money for their service and it's just like any other service we pay for or any other goods we pay for. i also believe that if they were made responsible in some way what they say we would lose like 90percent of all fake psychics, maybe only then i would be able to find a genuine reader who CAN predict future (if such person exists). the little comment on their profiles "for entertainment purposes only" is extremely convenient for scammers because they always have excuse that this should be taken as entertainment only - really? some of them charge like 20pounds/dollars per minute! claiming to be genuine and that their predictions happen - i've read some of the profiles of the psychics and a very few put on their profile that predictions are not set in stone and can be changed. most of them will claim how high their accuracy rate is and how good they are and how ONLY THEY can help you with your love life. - so we on this forum or some of us claim that psychics can see probabilities and opportunities, that not everyone connects with everyone etc - we are the ones making excuses for them whilst THEY are claiming the opposite? they claim they CAN see future, that they are right and their outcomes happen? i'm definitely not going to make excuses for any psychic anymore because when it comes to connection then i connected to about 90percent of psychics who could see my past or present situation but failed completely in predicting outcomes.to be honest i only cared about outcome.
i was not passive in my situation but not overly active either. i did ask psychics about how he feels about me. they all claimed he is in love with me, thinks about me all the time, can't let me go etc. i did not doubt this because he did act like he was totally into me at the beginning of our relationship and this lasted one year. so how can i doubt when psychics told me to hold on as he has a few things to sort out, he loves me and will leave her. i believed it would happen. then months later when he started to change and get distant yes i questioned why this happened and i did question his feelings. i also told him about my feelings so he was aware that i loved him. now he was honest enough and i do respect him for it and he did tell me that he had stronger feelings for me but they were not as strong as mine for him, he also explained that he cannot leave his gf. he did it in a gentle way so i do know he cares and has feelings for me but they are not as strong as feelings for his gf. so i am lucky enough to have confirmation from him directly that psychics were wrong. as i said before after that i was soo hurt that i did cause arguments very often for months. then when i realised it was pointless and some BIG things happened that made me believe and understand that indeed we will never be together because we can't. ALSO...reason why i asked him about his feelings was cause i wanted to know myself right from the source and i'm glad i did. if i never questioned him about his feelings i would STILL BE WAITING FOR HIM TO MAKE A MOVE. waiting and depressed.
look at kicking's and bella's stories. those girls have gone through pain as well. stories like ours are so many that my heart goes to those people. i have to say that stories like these made me see the reality, i snapped back from the dream state full of false hopes and only now i can clearly see what was happening and that what i wanted will not come true no matter what psychics say because of our circumstances. as zee said: We all come upon our own understanding in time, when we're ready. and i'm way ready now, being fed up, angry of being lied to and lead to believe in false hopes yes i am totally ready to face the truth and let go.
i do not consider the forum or posts as negative. they are feedbacks from people who used psychics. i'm not gonna post positive predictions when i had NONE manifest. i do agree SOME psychics have a talent and i recall a couple who shocked me with what they told me. literally one psychic told me something that noone in this world knows only ME..but still her predictions have not come true (some are still pending). so some do have a gift but with me it's always just with present and past issues.
if people want to analyse my experience and post - you can do so. i'm finally in a state where this does not upset me anymore because i have detached myself from it. i will only claim this is my own experience with psychics,my recommendation is not to consult with them about matters of heart because it can get messy. again it's up to each individual if they wanna read with them or not.
i agree with kicking about allowing things to happen - just another fancy way of waiting. but when you are waiting this is where depression most times come? if a reader tells you in one months this or that will happen and it doesn't happen for 2 years. can you still say you need to allow for things to happen? NO WAY! i had countless of similar predictions - in one week, in two weeks, in one months or 3 months - nope...nada...nothing...2 years later not a single one? come on...lol..sorry i have to laugh because person with common sense will after a few months pass try and move on and not wait years for things to happen. it doesn't matter how you are calling things whether it's waiting or allowing things to unfold - during this time if you are really in love you are still just waiting and feeling down missing the person terribly.
@kicking - the stories are heartbreaking but so familiar. i also found some posts from few people who kept calling and calling and eventually left negative feedback when they realised they were strung along. it's disgusting..
like bella i also gave plenty of time to see if some predictions manifest. if i was told something would happen in one month i always gave it a 2 or three months longer to see if it could just be delayed. but when things don't happen in 2 years...how much longer should one wait before they finally realise that they were lied to? bstalling raised the same question ..
@bella
When you stop calling and you let your emotions and your logic get on the same page, is when you see the truth of the situation....at least for me, that's what worked. And I will not be held responsible, as I was a member here, as I truly believed for a really long time...really long. With all my heart I did...
you are speaking my mind bella, i'm in fact glad i am not the only one who feels that once i stopped calling psychics was when i started seeing the truth, the reality. it was as if a fog was lifted and i could suddenly see.
i followed syngery's story she has also been on the forum for some time. for her to say she had not heard a single positive prediction happening also speaks volumes. i have also been waiting for that ONE person who would come back and say psychics were right about reconciliation
bark I'M FAR FROM NEGATIVE PERSON..i am totally watching how i think now and you know what? even what happened to me - the fact that all predictions were wrong, all of them i take it as POSITIVE THING....i am glad predictions didn't happen because i would not wanna end up with someone who is able to cheat on his gf with me..now i understand that HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME...I DESERVE MUCH BETTER...so no i am not negative, i am actually really happy i am able to see things clearly.
how is me saying predictions failed big time to manifest a negative thing? it just didn't happen. plain...short...honest feedback. something i accepted now and would not take my ex back even if he came begging me now.
and finally yes please if positive predictions happen why not share them? i'm sure people would be happy for you? it would be great to read from more people about positive predictions happening but have you come across any? i mean outcome wise as well?
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Yep! That sounds like my readings with the majority of the people I read with but only a few were right on certain things but I was in a situation similar to the ones below. The guy I was dating for 7 months LIVED with his girlfriend and her four kids! How do you not get that, and when he broke things off with me he ended up being with some other chick with two kids! That wasn't picked up by nobody!...anyone. I know it was my fault to even ask about this new guy. Like I know it was stupid to ask. I guess because I kinda would only get readings in regards to my job and made the mistake of asking about a guy. Look at how I'm feeling now. Or felt I should say. I felt insecure and wanted to push him out before he could hurt me because that's the vibe the readers are giving me. I wasn't trying to start anything between nobody on here, I was simply asking if this has ever happened to anybody else.
The guy I was calling about was having an affair with his bosses wife late 2010/early 2011. He lost his job when the boss found out. I was in his place NYD 2011 and saw some evidence of someone, xmas card on the wall and gifts in his headboard, but didn't know who it was. NO psychic picked this up at all, and I was calling multiple times a day during the holidays. Actually this was probably going on for close to a year, as I remember him stopping over in the summer before I went to an event. I remember the timeframe as it was 1-2 weeks prior to the event and he was thinking of coming up with me. She started to text him as he was getting ready to leave. They broke it off spring/early summer 2011
Not ONE psychic picked this up. She had kids, they spent a lot of time together, they took a trip together. She got divorced and almost moved a mile away from where he lived but changed her mind due to the school systems.
Perhaps he was not as much into her as she was to him, as they aren't together now. OTOH he was certainly not into me at ALL, and I was told he was.
ALSO keep in mind that *I* had an affair with him, and his family was (at the end of our r/s) trying to set him up with a couple other women who were having issues in their own marriages. So there is a definite pattern with him and married women - thinking he can "save" them from their "rotten" husbands, and then running away when they become available to him fully. So this seems to be a huge personality trait of HIS and NOT ONE psychic picked this up either.
i'm not telling people to believe or not to believe. i'm sharing my experience for others who are in similar situation. for them to see that they are not alone, that there is nothing wrong with them, and that there are ways how to let go and heal. but most importantly i wanna share my experience so that others are able to recognise when they are becoming addicted to psychcis and have the strength to stop. because if you were never in the same situation where you call psychics almost daily then those people will never understand the harm it can actually cause. so my intention is not to bash psychics but to try and help others.
THIS!!!
This is why we say what we say.
There were a few old timers that were saying this when I first joined the forum. Not many though, as the forum was pretty new. While I realize that everyone has to get to that point at their pace, it would be great if we could save some of them serious cash and heartache. I still have $6500 to pay off on that CC, which was under $1000 when I got divorced (late 2008), $2000 Jan 2010 (I only made 12K that year so I had to use it for some food and gas), and almost 10K when I finally transferred the balance in early 2012. (I was calling from June 2010 to early Sept 2011). Because I was making payments of over $200/month at that point, and because I had used some money from my business account for readings, I guesstimate I spent well over 10K in readings. I was so ashamed I didn't even record them in my finance program, except for the first few I had made June 2010. This money would have better served me for some trips, a new roof for my house, my retirement fund - ANYTHING but where it went.
So in 2009 my income was 12K and 14K in 2010 and I managed to SPEND over 10K while having the responsibility of a house to care for. I could've made more in 2010 except I was so fixated on the damn readings and doing what they said, creating a spreadsheet of timelines, keeping notes, rereading notes, keeping in touch with him, not talking to him etc. I lost a job in late 2010, a job I really really liked, and I know in my heart that one of the reasons was that I couldn't keep my shit together. Had I not made any of these calls, I wouldn't have had false hope and I would've gotten over him much sooner, and I wouldn't still have $6500 left to pay on a credit card that yielded me nothing.
this is all good of course only if you are NOT ADDICTED TO READINGS. many many people are addicted to psychic readings. i was addicted, in love and obsessed - you could be standing next to me telling me to listen to my intuition and act on it i would not listen to you and still think and say that you were wrong. that's how blinded i got at one point during my psychic craze. when you are not addicted and see things clearly like i can see now then yes i agree with you. a year ago i would be arguing with you about this because I WAS ADDICTED TO PSYCHIC READINGS. i had to have a reading "just to make sure his feelings haven't changed" how sad was that. readings made me feel better. they calmed me down. i was able to go to sleep because reader told me how my ex was coming back.
This again. I too was addicted and I can say I've never been addicted to anything in my life (well maybe a bit of chocolate lol). On top of all Sagitira says, i was also calling to clarify other readings, sometimes one call after another. It was nuts!
For the love of all that is HOLY!!! When will the outcome present itself? 25 years from now?
It's unfortunate that the reviews on pyshics in regards to the clients situations and outcomes are negative, as in the opposite of what was told actually happened. The predictions were all positive, yes, but the outcomes, no.
Well, I will have to disagree with you on this one, because the outcomes have not all been the opposite of what was told. Maybe for you, but not for everyone.
But then it will have come true! HAHA!!!! Just kidding, honestly. I know what you're saying. I did have one psychic who told me that she had a 2 year prediction rate for timelines. ie if she said December it may not be this December, but it could be in the two years following. None of her predictions came true either.
I've moved on. Many said we were twin flames, soul mates and would definitely be together. So if he comes back in 10 years, and I don't want him - I call that another failed prediction. Sure, some will argue free will on that, but hey they were the ones that saw us together happily ever after.
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This is one that I must give to Leslie from CP hands down. I was dating a guy last year on and off, never fully a relationship. The guy had been married twice, and a cheater, both marriages ended in divorce he told me he would not get married again, and was always so adamant about it.
Anyways when we met he had come out of another relationship which the women wanted marriage, he said he did not love her and would not marry again. Well while we were dating off and on, I knew things were not right so I started calling psychics, and got the load of shit about how he loves me and the whole line of crap, but I would call all of them right on the spot, telling them point blank that I don't love him like a normal relationship should be, and do they see someone else coming, most of them kept telling me that he loves me and to give it time. I am not a patient woman....lol
I called Leslie form CP and I ask about this guy, she said right off the back forget him, he is getting back with his ex, and they are getting married. I was blown away, and was like there is no way, and I even started questioning her saying you are wrong, but she would not budge. She again stated FORGET HIM, they are getting married. She also made future predictions about my future that did not include him.
I think it was a week or 2 later, I heard and read about their engagement. She was dead on!
I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
Why are you saying it's a witch hunt, when all I am asking is for you to post a positive prediction happening, or any prediction for that matter, actually happening....why not give this board the positivity that seems to be lacking...? why not post of YOUR experiences? I don't understand that, as when anyone posts of their negative readings/experiences you just pick it apart, implying they didn't read with reputable readers or timing or their own wrong doings....
And I honestly mean it, I would love to hear something happening for someone here...Why don't you post? I don't care how small a thing it is...why not post it?
It's not an attact on you Bark...really it isn't..it's an honest question is all.
I agree. Why not share a verifiable, actual positive prediction that happened? If no one is posting positive FINAL OUTCOMES..can you blame us for doubting psychics in general? This is your chance to provide us with a different view that is backed by something that happened in your life.
Barbara almost was right for me. Ex-fiance did propose...but he still had emotional issues and would not make a good husband. Were not engaged anymore. That is the closest that I can come to a final prediction happening for me...and it wasn't so positive.
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So I decided since I started this post that I would Tell my story, or shall I say stories :)
First of all, I want to say... My final outcomes have been WRONG. Like no way in hell WRONG. I will say that a few, very very few saw the truth I guess you could say about my situation, but still made incorrect, didn't even come close to happening predictions.
First of all, I have mentioned that Barbara was correct with me with my ex boyfriend of 6 years. She saw him proposing and a baby. I thought no way, well... I did get pregnant alright but he was trying to date some chick who was way younger than him with two kids and was still legally married just 'seperated' from the hubby. So that obviously was not picked up by nobody. Two months down the road when girl on the side or whatever decided to work things out with her husband he came crawling to me begging me back wanting to work on our 'family' and was trying to ask me to marry him. Even went as far as asking my parents if he could have my hand in marriage. So technically he did kind of propose. Well, I ended up miscarrying :,( and he cried his eyes out and wanted to try having another baby... We didn't get prego (thank god) and he started back on his old ways of going out drinking and didn't know at the time but having one night stands and all that cute stuff. He ended up getting a DUI and from then on we were just doomed. He broke up Witherspoon feb of 12' one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with. Every reader except magical Sandra and ness21 told me he was coming back. Well, he NEVER did. Ever! At least in the time frames given. If he ever decided to come back around not one psychic would get credit because again time frames were stupid wrong, and it's not all that shocking for an ex to come back around YEEARRS down the road. So outcome 1 semi wrong. Only TWO readers were correct.
Moving on... Mrsdream228 was one psychic who told me I would be meeting this amazing man who when after she described him I knew exactly who she was talking about when I did finally meet this guy. She accurately picked up details that did happen during our little romance and I was smitten over this guy! Well, he was my boss so we couldn't 'legally' haha date because we could've both lost our jobs but I was reassured even by NESS21 that he was allll about me!! We couldn't be seen in public so it was very difficult but we somehow made it work. We dated about 7 months. No sex nada! Just kissing and texting and calling and little lunch dates here and there. Well, March of 13' I moved locations for my job, he wasn't my boss anymore. Perfect for us to date right? Well no, there was always an excuse as to why. Readers told me he's still scared, he's protecting his job, he really doesn't want you to think bad of him but it's really because of his job. Don't worry. I see you guys getting closer in April and exclusive in June. I thought okay.. Well when we finally had sex... He was gone. No where to be found. He used me :,( made me feel like a moron. Well found out he was dating this chick with two kids and wanted to have a baby with her and get married. And they were trying to move in together! Talk about being hella wrong as far as outcomes go. Every reader pulled the oh she's munipulative, he doesn't love her, it's for financial reasons, he's using her. Ummm, yeah right. Well to make matters worse! Like a billion times worse.. Come to find out, this loser was LIVING with his girlfriend (while we were dating)and her four children!! Not one person told me about another woman. Nobody! He had a girlfriend the whole time! I guess he broke up with her sorry if it's TMI slept with me then cut me off, got with the other chick with two kids and for god knows what they split up and I hear he is back with the original GF. Sooooo outcome 2. HELLA WRONG. Not one psychic picked any of that up. Nobody.
I stopped calling for a while. I was ashamed and embarrassed at how much I relied on these people to help me when they made me so broke. They helped me with NOTHING. I don't even know why I called asking about my job, I changed positions at work and I was afraid I was going to fail so I did what I was comfortable with. Which was calling psychics. I don't call as often, like once or twice a month and of course I made the mistake of asking about a new guy I've been seeing. What upset me was one tarot reader told me that an earth sign was going to be coming in my life soon and she saw great potential for long term and saw marriage, when I called that reAder and told her hey I think I know who you're tAlking about she said.... Um no. I don't see strong love cards so I think it's another earth sign not him. Like wtf? And before anyone says well maybe it's not him she told me he was in his 30's, saw authority figure like cop or even in military.. (He's finishing up school to become a cop) and that we would meet online somehow. We went to HS together he was a senior when I was a freshman so we knew of each other and he found me on Instagram and Facebook one day and from then on we started talking and now were dating! He lived 6 hours away from me for the past like 10 years and moved back to our hometown so I'm super happy he did because he's amazing. This is the guy that now I get opposite feedback about :/ that's why I started this post because it BS how these people get awAy with almost ruining peoples lives and how I feel a part of me is addicted I guess you can say. I don't call as often as I did but the fact that I even decided to call in the first ace to ask about him was disappointing. All I've heard is, he's interested but no strong commitment, I don't get feelings just yet... Only attraction so he may not be that serious. Just negative. And this is literally the first guy who's ever really taken me out on dates, calls and texts, makes me feel like a total queen and I want to push him away because of these people :( I'm healing in my own ways, like others on here I'm really just starting to just put everything in gods hands. I've been asking god to remove him from my life if he is not the one for me and so far I've seen nothing but just positivity coming from this man. I can tell he 100% cares about me and that makes me feel good. Sorry to bore everyone with these lamo stories and I'm sorry for starting a war lol, didn't mean too, I was only curious to see if this was something that was common or if it was just me.
ok i also forgot to add that when i questioned psychics about my outcome they (i'd say 90percent of them) told me outcome is an outcome and can't be changed. they have the cheek to say that they are right and won't change their prediction (when i'm telling them that opposite was happening) they would still not admit that they were wrong. i'm sure if i read with them now after some time passed and said it still didn't happen they would either still tell me the same outcome or say it was free will...i have to laugh...
i also believe psychics SHOULD take their jobs much more seriously. at the end of the day they are taking money for their service and it's just like any other service we pay for or any other goods we pay for. i also believe that if they were made responsible in some way what they say we would lose like 90percent of all fake psychics, maybe only then i would be able to find a genuine reader who CAN predict future (if such person exists). the little comment on their profiles "for entertainment purposes only" is extremely convenient for scammers because they always have excuse that this should be taken as entertainment only - really? some of them charge like 20pounds/dollars per minute! claiming to be genuine and that their predictions happen - i've read some of the profiles of the psychics and a very few put on their profile that predictions are not set in stone and can be changed. most of them will claim how high their accuracy rate is and how good they are and how ONLY THEY can help you with your love life. - so we on this forum or some of us claim that psychics can see probabilities and opportunities, that not everyone connects with everyone etc - we are the ones making excuses for them whilst THEY are claiming the opposite? they claim they CAN see future, that they are right and their outcomes happen? i'm definitely not going to make excuses for any psychic anymore because when it comes to connection then i connected to about 90percent of psychics who could see my past or present situation but failed completely in predicting outcomes.to be honest i only cared about outcome.
i was not passive in my situation but not overly active either. i did ask psychics about how he feels about me. they all claimed he is in love with me, thinks about me all the time, can't let me go etc. i did not doubt this because he did act like he was totally into me at the beginning of our relationship and this lasted one year. so how can i doubt when psychics told me to hold on as he has a few things to sort out, he loves me and will leave her. i believed it would happen. then months later when he started to change and get distant yes i questioned why this happened and i did question his feelings. i also told him about my feelings so he was aware that i loved him. now he was honest enough and i do respect him for it and he did tell me that he had stronger feelings for me but they were not as strong as mine for him, he also explained that he cannot leave his gf. he did it in a gentle way so i do know he cares and has feelings for me but they are not as strong as feelings for his gf. so i am lucky enough to have confirmation from him directly that psychics were wrong. as i said before after that i was soo hurt that i did cause arguments very often for months. then when i realised it was pointless and some BIG things happened that made me believe and understand that indeed we will never be together because we can't. ALSO...reason why i asked him about his feelings was cause i wanted to know myself right from the source and i'm glad i did. if i never questioned him about his feelings i would STILL BE WAITING FOR HIM TO MAKE A MOVE. waiting and depressed.
look at kicking's and bella's stories. those girls have gone through pain as well. stories like ours are so many that my heart goes to those people. i have to say that stories like these made me see the reality, i snapped back from the dream state full of false hopes and only now i can clearly see what was happening and that what i wanted will not come true no matter what psychics say because of our circumstances. as zee said: We all come upon our own understanding in time, when we're ready. and i'm way ready now, being fed up, angry of being lied to and lead to believe in false hopes yes i am totally ready to face the truth and let go.
i do not consider the forum or posts as negative. they are feedbacks from people who used psychics. i'm not gonna post positive predictions when i had NONE manifest. i do agree SOME psychics have a talent and i recall a couple who shocked me with what they told me. literally one psychic told me something that noone in this world knows only ME..but still her predictions have not come true (some are still pending). so some do have a gift but with me it's always just with present and past issues.
if people want to analyse my experience and post - you can do so. i'm finally in a state where this does not upset me anymore because i have detached myself from it. i will only claim this is my own experience with psychics,my recommendation is not to consult with them about matters of heart because it can get messy. again it's up to each individual if they wanna read with them or not.
i agree with kicking about allowing things to happen - just another fancy way of waiting. but when you are waiting this is where depression most times come? if a reader tells you in one months this or that will happen and it doesn't happen for 2 years. can you still say you need to allow for things to happen? NO WAY! i had countless of similar predictions - in one week, in two weeks, in one months or 3 months - nope...nada...nothing...2 years later not a single one? come on...lol..sorry i have to laugh because person with common sense will after a few months pass try and move on and not wait years for things to happen. it doesn't matter how you are calling things whether it's waiting or allowing things to unfold - during this time if you are really in love you are still just waiting and feeling down missing the person terribly.
@kicking - the stories are heartbreaking but so familiar. i also found some posts from few people who kept calling and calling and eventually left negative feedback when they realised they were strung along. it's disgusting..
like bella i also gave plenty of time to see if some predictions manifest. if i was told something would happen in one month i always gave it a 2 or three months longer to see if it could just be delayed. but when things don't happen in 2 years...how much longer should one wait before they finally realise that they were lied to? bstalling raised the same question ..
@bella
When you stop calling and you let your emotions and your logic get on the same page, is when you see the truth of the situation....at least for me, that's what worked. And I will not be held responsible, as I was a member here, as I truly believed for a really long time...really long. With all my heart I did...
you are speaking my mind bella, i'm in fact glad i am not the only one who feels that once i stopped calling psychics was when i started seeing the truth, the reality. it was as if a fog was lifted and i could suddenly see.
i followed syngery's story she has also been on the forum for some time. for her to say she had not heard a single positive prediction happening also speaks volumes. i have also been waiting for that ONE person who would come back and say psychics were right about reconciliation
bark I'M FAR FROM NEGATIVE PERSON..i am totally watching how i think now and you know what? even what happened to me - the fact that all predictions were wrong, all of them i take it as POSITIVE THING....i am glad predictions didn't happen because i would not wanna end up with someone who is able to cheat on his gf with me..now i understand that HE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME...I DESERVE MUCH BETTER...so no i am not negative, i am actually really happy i am able to see things clearly.
how is me saying predictions failed big time to manifest a negative thing? it just didn't happen. plain...short...honest feedback. something i accepted now and would not take my ex back even if he came begging me now.
and finally yes please if positive predictions happen why not share them? i'm sure people would be happy for you? it would be great to read from more people about positive predictions happening but have you come across any? i mean outcome wise as well?
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Bella,
I have indicated that predictions have happened for me. Unless I give the nitty gritty details on the forum you doubt what I say, but there is no way in hell that I would ever share those details on a forum like this because there are people on here (and believe me I sense you are part of that group) that love to dispel any theory or experience I have had. Sorry but that is my impression. It has been my impression for a long time and those people that I have had the pleasure of speaking with off this forum know that I have had things predicted by a couple of trusted psychics that have materialized. Note that I say multiple predictions by multiple advisors. I do not need to say more.
Unfortunately, the naysayers will not accept my word. But that is their problem.
I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
Why are you saying it's a witch hunt, when all I am asking is for you to post a positive prediction happening, or any prediction for that matter, actually happening....why not give this board the positivity that seems to be lacking...? why not post of YOUR experiences? I don't understand that, as when anyone posts of their negative readings/experiences you just pick it apart, implying they didn't read with reputable readers or timing or their own wrong doings....
And I honestly mean it, I would love to hear something happening for someone here...Why don't you post? I don't care how small a thing it is...why not post it?
It's not an attact on you Bark...really it isn't..it's an honest question is all.
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I'd like to also say this.... Success rate in predictions has a lot to do with a number of elements, including the number of individuals that have power over the prediction; the caliber of reader; the openness of your mind; the ability to let things unfold in their own time; the ability to not permit petty bitterness and revenge to harden your heart; and the affect that other energies have on the situation.
Predictions, some predictions, are subject to change. Not all predictions are cast in stone. One has to bear that in mind. My most trusted reader states it this way, "We are not oracles, but people that sense. Psychics are like meteorologists. We sense "systems" building and moving towards us just like the weather". But as we all know the weather is changeable. Do we hold meteorologists to task because they predicted rain on Monday and it didn't? Do we ask for them to return their salary because the weather didn't work out the way they suggested? No. We accept that systems like the weather are dependent upon any number of forces all having their own individual dynamic. Sometimes a weather system to the west of us that is building and headed right towards us or in our path, later gets diverted by a high pressure system that comes in from the north that shifted. That is why psychic predictions are much more a case of probability than fact".
Most people cringe at the thought of this but, in reality, the accuracy of predictions is attributable to how much influence the dreaded term "free will" that is so objectionable to so many has on the situation. The more people involved in the situation, the greater the possibility that free will of one or more may knock that system out of your path. People sense this is an excuse of readers, but it really is comparable to the high or low pressure system that can move a storm into our out of our path. What bothers me so much on this forum is the representation that psychics that work on predictions are rip-off artists or deliberately hurting us if their predictions are subject to those influences and yet with meteorologists we readily accept a margin for error. I find it totally improper that we hold psychics to standard much higher than those we give to weather professionals.
sagitira - sometimes we do not always realize what changes the path of our own predictions. Sometimes it is not the free will of the other individuals involved, but our own. So many times, and I am not making issue of your case, but so many times I read on this forum people talking about failed predictions and how it was the "best thing" because they realized that XYZ didn't deserve them or hurt them or was not worthy of them. Just take a moment and think about this ...... Could it be that this is your own "free will" diverting the prediction for your own good? Could it be that you impacted your own prediction?
No answer is necessary.... but just give that notion a moment's thought.....
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Barbara almost was right for me. Ex-fiance did propose...but he still had emotional issues and would not make a good husband. Were not engaged anymore. That is the closest that I can come to a final prediction happening for me...and it wasn't so positive.
bstalling - why do you chalk that prediction up as a failed prediction? He did propose, but you had a choice - to take him with emotional issues or not. I know you might be disinclined to acknowledge it this way, but is it possible you exercised your own "free will"?
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This is why I don't share details. This is why I stay out of chat. This. Period. End of discussion.
Well Cinderella, if the shoe fits wear it.
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Outcome?? Positive OUTCOME predictions? Why wouldn't anyone share that? It's what we've all been waiting for and it's why we're all here. For some confirmation... To know that one day the final outcome CAN happen. We haven't heard it because it doesn't happen.
I'm the first to come here and say when predictions pan out. Why? Because 1. It makes me happy when readers make accurate prediction and 2. It may lead to someone else getting an accurate prediction and that's what we all want!!!
Just recently I had Lady Jenna and MysticRaven11 make accurate contact predictions. MysticRaven's was actually spot on, to the day! Sadly, nothing else they've predicted has happened. Also, queenofcups18 Anne told me something that I didn't believe. I thought she was making excuses for someone. Well, last night I received confirmation of everything she's been telling me. Everything. Mind blown. BUT that doesn't change that since September nothing has progressed in the situation I've been calling about. I have faith in Anne. I choose to read with her because I believe what she sees along the way and I constantly get confirmations of what she tells me is happening NOW. I no longer even ask her what will happen outcome-wise because I have come to realize they don't know. This is how I choose to get readings now.
That doesn't mean I don't want to hear about people's positive predictions. I am dying to hear someone got their way and got their happy ending. But IT HASNT HAPPENED! That doesn't make me negative. It simply means I've been on this forum for a LONG TIME and no one has reported that their ex returned or their lover left their wife for them or whatever. It hasn't happened! And if it has, you're selfish for not sharing that.
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Bstalling's ex came back and proposed but he wasn't ready! He still has the existing issues! That's not bstalling's fault. AND a gifted reader should see, yes, he'll return but he'll still have the existing issues and it won't be in your best interest to take him back. What was bstalling supposed to do? Settle?! No way!!! She did the right thing, and I agree that the prediction is wrong if she was told she'd end up with him.
Btw, at one point when C came back around I did start thinking that maybe some readers were right and only the timeframe was off. I called Kisha and she said he'd only want sex, still isn't ready for something serious, blah blah blah. She was right. He only wanted sex. Just because he eventually came back around doesn't mean all the other readers were right. They were all wrong. He didn't and doesn't want to be with me. I'm supposed to "wait" for him to be ready? He never may be! Forget that!
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If this is how you feel, I am sorry but I suggest you place the blame for that where it belongs and that is at the feet of the individuals that launch the witch hunt and wish nothing more than to drown out the positive comments with their own negativism. I don't need to say more - you know where that belongs.
Synergy - do you agree that things that we do, after getting a reading - that were not at all our mindset at the time of a reading, might later impact the outcome? For example, if a person chooses to do something that would hurt their ex's feelings, do you expect the outcome to be the same? Just wondering how much leeway you expect to have......
Readings are probability - like a weather system. How many times have you accepted the fact that the weather does not come out as forecasted? Do you shoot the weatherman? Or do you realize that there are energies that can change an outcome - heck, even energies of your own that impact it?
It's unreasonable to expect our exes and others to not have even the slightest change in their intentions or mindset and for a prediction to roll out as seen months or years ago, and yet we can do whatever the heck we want and nothing should change. That is absolutely ridiculous!
Outcome?? Positive OUTCOME predictions? Why wouldn't anyone share that? It's what we've all been waiting for and it's why we're all here. For some confirmation... To know that one day the final outcome CAN happen. We haven't heard it because it doesn't happen.
I'm the first to come here and say when predictions pan out. Why? Because 1. It makes me happy when readers make accurate prediction and 2. It may lead to someone else getting an accurate prediction and that's what we all want!!!
Just recently I had Lady Jenna and MysticRaven11 make accurate contact predictions. MysticRaven's was actually spot on, to the day! Sadly, nothing else they've predicted has happened. Also, queenofcups18 Anne told me something that I didn't believe. I thought she was making excuses for someone. Well, last night I received confirmation of everything she's been telling me. Everything. Mind blown. BUT that doesn't change that since September nothing has progressed in the situation I've been calling about. I have faith in Anne. I choose to read with her because I believe what she sees along the way and I constantly get confirmations of what she tells me is happening NOW. I no longer even ask her what will happen outcome-wise because I have come to realize they don't know. This is how I choose to get readings now.
That doesn't mean I don't want to hear about people's positive predictions. I am dying to hear someone got their way and got their happy ending. But IT HASNT HAPPENED! That doesn't make me negative. It simply means I've been on this forum for a LONG TIME and no one has reported that their ex returned or their lover left their wife for them or whatever. It hasn't happened! And if it has, you're selfish for not sharing that.
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This post calls out to me to try to see if there really is a line of thinking that perhaps I see as getting in the way of having our wants and desires. Life is not fair. People die. Babies are born without limbs. People starve and suffer across the globe. Calling a psychic does not ensure pure idyllic happiness - flowers, and stars and butterflies. We call to ask a psychic is such and such a person will be in our lives. if there were problems before, why would you expect that those problems would not exist in the future? What is that phrase, "careful what you wish for"? Why do we think that if a prediction is made for us to reunite with a loved one that it will be all flowers and stars and butterflies? Maybe concessions are to be made to fashion a life with an ex. Maybe patience is required. Maybe it isn't going to be easy. Maybe, just maybe our expectations get in the way of predictions manifesting in the way we expect. I have never had a trusted advisor tell me it will be stars and butterflies. If you replay readings from trusted advisors (ones that are really ethical) you will often hear it come out loud and clear...."you may not want what you want today"; "you may find this isn't all that it appears"; "you will have to take it slow", "it will take time"; "forgiveness is required". Why do we get readings from psychics and expect a "fairytale ending". Life often doesn't present everyone a fairytale.
Maybe, just maybe an ex would return still not ready and a life with him would require some compromise. Maybe, just maybe one needs to heed the phrase, "careful what you wish for".
Bstalling's ex came back and proposed but he wasn't ready! He still has the existing issues! That's not bstalling's fault. AND a gifted reader should see, yes, he'll return but he'll still have the existing issues and it won't be in your best interest to take him back. What was bstalling supposed to do? Settle?! No way!!! She did the right thing, and I agree that the prediction is wrong if she was told she'd end up with him.
Btw, at one point when C came back around I did start thinking that maybe some readers were right and only the timeframe was off. I called Kisha and she said he'd only want sex, still isn't ready for something serious, blah blah blah. She was right. He only wanted sex. Just because he eventually came back around doesn't mean all the other readers were right. They were all wrong. He didn't and doesn't want to be with me. I'm supposed to "wait" for him to be ready? He never may be! Forget that!
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This post calls out to me to try to see if there really is a line of thinking that perhaps I see as getting in the way of having our wants and desires. Life is not fair. People die. Babies are born without limbs. People starve and suffer across the globe. Calling a psychic does not ensure pure idyllic happiness - flowers, and stars and butterflies. We call to ask a psychic is such and such a person will be in our lives. if there were problems before, why would you expect that those problems would not exist in the future? What is that phrase, "careful what you wish for"? Why do we think that if a prediction is made for us to reunite with a loved one that it will be all flowers and stars and butterflies? Maybe concessions are to be made to fashion a life with an ex. Maybe patience is required. Maybe it isn't going to be easy. Maybe, just maybe our expectations get in the way of predictions manifesting in the way we expect. I have never had a trusted advisor tell me it will be stars and butterflies. If you replay readings from trusted advisors (ones that are really ethical) you will often hear it come out loud and clear...."you may not want what you want today"; "you may find this isn't all that it appears"; "you will have to take it slow", "it will take time"; "forgiveness is required". Why do we get readings from psychics and expect a "fairytale ending". Life often doesn't present everyone a fairytale.
Maybe, just maybe an ex would return still not ready and a life with him would require some compromise. Maybe, just maybe one needs to heed the phrase, "careful what you wish for".
Bstalling's ex came back and proposed but he wasn't ready! He still has the existing issues! That's not bstalling's fault. AND a gifted reader should see, yes, he'll return but he'll still have the existing issues and it won't be in your best interest to take him back. What was bstalling supposed to do? Settle?! No way!!! She did the right thing, and I agree that the prediction is wrong if she was told she'd end up with him.
Btw, at one point when C came back around I did start thinking that maybe some readers were right and only the timeframe was off. I called Kisha and she said he'd only want sex, still isn't ready for something serious, blah blah blah. She was right. He only wanted sex. Just because he eventually came back around doesn't mean all the other readers were right. They were all wrong. He didn't and doesn't want to be with me. I'm supposed to "wait" for him to be ready? He never may be! Forget that!
The only reason I disagree with this view is because I have had readers say this person will be back but he will not be ready for what you want, or will not be in the state you need him to be in, or whatever else pointing to the fact that it will not work out. I know gifted psychics exist and there are those who have seen such scenarios.
I do agree, and have always said, that we need to be objective with out readings and accept our own responsibility and control over situations. This is exactly why readings cannot and should not be taken as reality. I've always said it's a best guess, a conjecture, a probability. The thing is many if not most of these readers give these ultimate outcomes that are impossible because of what's happening behind the scenes. They should at least see the here and now. This is why I now get readings focused on the PRESENT. Even then, many are wrong.
If a man isn't with you, there's a reason. Love yourself enough to accept that and move on. I speak only for myself but many of my own issues are due to low self esteem. I always wonder what is wrong with me. Why did this man leave me for someone ugly, morally corrupt, etc etc. I focus on that and want answers. The heart wants what it wants and sometimes it simply doesn't make sense and there aren't any answers. Psychic readings perpetuate the sadness and loneliness. They don't help.
That said, I like getting readings. It fills a void for me. I wait for the day I no longer have to fill that void. I know it will come because I've stopped with readings before. I just need to get there. This place helps me to an extent because there's comfort in knowing I'm not alone.
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Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Bella,
I have indicated that predictions have happened for me. Unless I give the nitty gritty details on the forum you doubt what I say, but there is no way in hell that I would ever share those details on a forum like this because there are people on here (and believe me I sense you are part of that group) that love to dispel any theory or experience I have had. Sorry but that is my impression. It has been my impression for a long time and those people that I have had the pleasure of speaking with off this forum know that I have had things predicted by a couple of trusted psychics that have materialized. Note that I say multiple predictions by multiple advisors. I do not need to say more.
Unfortunately, the naysayers will not accept my word. But that is their problem.
I learned the last time this sort of thing happened. Perhaps that is the downside for having these witch hunts is everyone suffers.That's just it Bark....YOU don't share at all...Why don't you share if a prediction happened or not? You don't have to reveal telling details....I may be wrong, but I don't recall a post from you ever saying that something happened....Why aren't you posting things that happened? (again, not revealing details)
Why are you saying it's a witch hunt, when all I am asking is for you to post a positive prediction happening, or any prediction for that matter, actually happening....why not give this board the positivity that seems to be lacking...? why not post of YOUR experiences? I don't understand that, as when anyone posts of their negative readings/experiences you just pick it apart, implying they didn't read with reputable readers or timing or their own wrong doings....
And I honestly mean it, I would love to hear something happening for someone here...Why don't you post? I don't care how small a thing it is...why not post it?
It's not an attact on you Bark...really it isn't..it's an honest question is all.
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This post calls out to me to try to see if there really is a line of thinking that perhaps I see as getting in the way of having our wants and desires. Life is not fair. People die. Babies are born without limbs. People starve and suffer across the globe. Calling a psychic does not ensure pure idyllic happiness - flowers, and stars and butterflies. We call to ask a psychic is such and such a person will be in our lives. if there were problems before, why would you expect that those problems would not exist in the future? What is that phrase, "careful what you wish for"? Why do we think that if a prediction is made for us to reunite with a loved one that it will be all flowers and stars and butterflies? Maybe concessions are to be made to fashion a life with an ex. Maybe patience is required. Maybe it isn't going to be easy. Maybe, just maybe our expectations get in the way of predictions manifesting in the way we expect. I have never had a trusted advisor tell me it will be stars and butterflies. If you replay readings from trusted advisors (ones that are really ethical) you will often hear it come out loud and clear...."you may not want what you want today"; "you may find this isn't all that it appears"; "you will have to take it slow", "it will take time"; "forgiveness is required". Why do we get readings from psychics and expect a "fairytale ending". Life often doesn't present everyone a fairytale.
Maybe, just maybe an ex would return still not ready and a life with him would require some compromise. Maybe, just maybe one needs to heed the phrase, "careful what you wish for".
To be told that he is "working through some issues" or "worried that he doesn't make enough to make you happy" or some such thing, and to have that followed with "I see you two getting married and living happily" sure does imply that issues will be worked out and he will come back and you will be happy together. No?
BTW do you work in the legal field? The way you phrase your "arguments" sure makes me think so, and makes my head hurt to just read most of your posts.
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This post calls out to me to try to see if there really is a line of thinking that perhaps I see as getting in the way of having our wants and desires. Life is not fair. People die. Babies are born without limbs. People starve and suffer across the globe. Calling a psychic does not ensure pure idyllic happiness - flowers, and stars and butterflies. We call to ask a psychic is such and such a person will be in our lives. if there were problems before, why would you expect that those problems would not exist in the future? What is that phrase, "careful what you wish for"? Why do we think that if a prediction is made for us to reunite with a loved one that it will be all flowers and stars and butterflies? Maybe concessions are to be made to fashion a life with an ex. Maybe patience is required. Maybe it isn't going to be easy. Maybe, just maybe our expectations get in the way of predictions manifesting in the way we expect. I have never had a trusted advisor tell me it will be stars and butterflies. If you replay readings from trusted advisors (ones that are really ethical) you will often hear it come out loud and clear...."you may not want what you want today"; "you may find this isn't all that it appears"; "you will have to take it slow", "it will take time"; "forgiveness is required". Why do we get readings from psychics and expect a "fairytale ending". Life often doesn't present everyone a fairytale.
Maybe, just maybe an ex would return still not ready and a life with him would require some compromise. Maybe, just maybe one needs to heed the phrase, "careful what you wish for".
To be told that he is "working through some issues" or "worried that he doesn't make enough to make you happy" or some such thing, and to have that followed with "I see you two getting married and living happily" sure does imply that issues will be worked out and he will come back and you will be happy together. No?
BTW do you work in the legal field? The way you phrase your "arguments" sure makes me think so, and makes my head hurt to just read most of your posts.
Sorry about the way I phrase my arguments. Certainly am not intending to hurt your head. Frankly, I find that a little bit insulting, but OK.
"I see you getting married and living happily" implies only that or that he eventually, in your case, either makes enough that he feels will make you happy or he realizes that your happiness does not depend upon how much he makes. What is required for you to achieve that is up to both of you. I am of the opinion that no relationship is without its ups and downs and compromises.
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Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me. No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die? No one posted - no one dared. Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas. How do I know that? Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result. I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum. I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past. So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.
Capisce?
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This post calls out to me to try to see if there really is a line of thinking that perhaps I see as getting in the way of having our wants and desires. Life is not fair. People die. Babies are born without limbs. People starve and suffer across the globe. Calling a psychic does not ensure pure idyllic happiness - flowers, and stars and butterflies. We call to ask a psychic is such and such a person will be in our lives. if there were problems before, why would you expect that those problems would not exist in the future? What is that phrase, "careful what you wish for"? Why do we think that if a prediction is made for us to reunite with a loved one that it will be all flowers and stars and butterflies? Maybe concessions are to be made to fashion a life with an ex. Maybe patience is required. Maybe it isn't going to be easy. Maybe, just maybe our expectations get in the way of predictions manifesting in the way we expect. I have never had a trusted advisor tell me it will be stars and butterflies. If you replay readings from trusted advisors (ones that are really ethical) you will often hear it come out loud and clear...."you may not want what you want today"; "you may find this isn't all that it appears"; "you will have to take it slow", "it will take time"; "forgiveness is required". Why do we get readings from psychics and expect a "fairytale ending". Life often doesn't present everyone a fairytale.
Maybe, just maybe an ex would return still not ready and a life with him would require some compromise. Maybe, just maybe one needs to heed the phrase, "careful what you wish for".
The thing is many if not most of these readers give these ultimate outcomes that are impossible because of what's happening behind the scenes. They should at least see the here and now. This is why I now get readings focused on the PRESENT. Even then, many are wrong.
If a man isn't with you, there's a reason.
If truth be known, I'd be inclined to guess that the vast majority of relationships that fail, fail for the right reason and should fail. It's only a small percentage that fail for reasons that are not critical to their very survival. Hence, if callers are reaching out to psychics asking when they will reconcile with exA, when such relationship with exA was unhealthy and fraught with issues..... they should know what the chances are for that union to survive even if an ex returns. They don't need a psychic to give them a prediction. That is, unless the dynamic between to two individuals changes significantly. In most relationships that requires compromise to some degree. Not always, but most times.
If a man is not with you, there can be any number of reasons - not all involve another person or some basic incompatibility that cannot be overcome. Sometimes it is for personal growth on the part of both parties, that could not be achieved together. Sometimes it is for other reasons, but what sort of person expects that if a relationship has failed in the past all it takes is some time apart and "presto!" magically all is well and they come back together and ride off into the sunset? No who is painting a fairytale picture now?
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Lol whatever! You are seriously ridiculous!
Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me. No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die? No one posted - no one dared. Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas. How do I know that? Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result. I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum. I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past. So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.
Capisce?
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You don't give information or prediction updates because you haven't had any. Bark, you are holding on and hoping that someone will be right....I don't fault you for that. The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.
Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me. No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die? No one posted - no one dared. Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas. How do I know that? Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result. I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum. I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past. So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.
Capisce?
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This post calls out to me to try to see if there really is a line of thinking that perhaps I see as getting in the way of having our wants and desires. Life is not fair. People die. Babies are born without limbs. People starve and suffer across the globe. Calling a psychic does not ensure pure idyllic happiness - flowers, and stars and butterflies. We call to ask a psychic is such and such a person will be in our lives. if there were problems before, why would you expect that those problems would not exist in the future? What is that phrase, "careful what you wish for"? Why do we think that if a prediction is made for us to reunite with a loved one that it will be all flowers and stars and butterflies? Maybe concessions are to be made to fashion a life with an ex. Maybe patience is required. Maybe it isn't going to be easy. Maybe, just maybe our expectations get in the way of predictions manifesting in the way we expect. I have never had a trusted advisor tell me it will be stars and butterflies. If you replay readings from trusted advisors (ones that are really ethical) you will often hear it come out loud and clear...."you may not want what you want today"; "you may find this isn't all that it appears"; "you will have to take it slow", "it will take time"; "forgiveness is required". Why do we get readings from psychics and expect a "fairytale ending". Life often doesn't present everyone a fairytale.
Maybe, just maybe an ex would return still not ready and a life with him would require some compromise. Maybe, just maybe one needs to heed the phrase, "careful what you wish for".
The thing is many if not most of these readers give these ultimate outcomes that are impossible because of what's happening behind the scenes. They should at least see the here and now. This is why I now get readings focused on the PRESENT. Even then, many are wrong.
If a man isn't with you, there's a reason.
If truth be known, I'd be inclined to guess that the vast majority of relationships that fail, fail for the right reason and should fail. It's only a small percentage that fail for reasons that are not critical to their very survival. Hence, if callers are reaching out to psychics asking when they will reconcile with exA, when such relationship with exA was unhealthy and fraught with issues..... they should know what the chances are for that union to survive even if an ex returns. They don't need a psychic to give them a prediction. That is, unless the dynamic between to two individuals changes significantly. In most relationships that requires compromise to some degree. Not always, but most times.
If a man is not with you, there can be any number of reasons - not all involve another person or some basic incompatibility that cannot be overcome. Sometimes it is for personal growth on the part of both parties, that could not be achieved together. Sometimes it is for other reasons, but what sort of person expects that if a relationship has failed in the past all it takes is some time apart and "presto!" magically all is well and they come back together and ride off into the sunset? No who is painting a fairytale picture now?
Ahhhh but herein lies the rub. And I'll use my case specifically. It's highly probable that my exbf has a personality disorder. This would make any rs he's in challenging at best.
Yet in all my time of calling, all the money I spent, all the different psychics I talked to - not one of them picked up on this. Some of them did pick up on his being carefree like a child (and I'm paraphrasing here, not going to go through all my notes), which sort of fits his PD. But no one mentioned the challenges, though I knew they'd be there if we did get back together.
So at this point, I am fine with the failed r/s. I have one I never could have imagined now. I wouldn't want to go back to someone that has no boundaries, someone who's so hard to work with.
I agree that there are many reasons that this man is not with me BUT it doesn't change the fact that just about every psychic I talked to told me otherwise. They fed me the same lines that many here are fed. And they were wrong.
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Barbara almost was right for me. Ex-fiance did propose...but he still had emotional issues and would not make a good husband. Were not engaged anymore. That is the closest that I can come to a final prediction happening for me...and it wasn't so positive.
bstalling - why do you chalk that prediction up as a failed prediction? He did propose, but you had a choice - to take him with emotional issues or not. I know you might be disinclined to acknowledge it this way, but is it possible you exercised your own "free will"?
It failed because I was told he would propose, we would get married and we would move together to where he wanted to be...across the country. The proposal happened...and he did talk about relocating across the country with me, but that was it. Counseling sessions proved he has some serious emotional issues that would not lend to a happy marriage. I EXPECT A READER TO CLUE ME INTO THAT not paint a rosy picture that everything will be alright...because it isnt alright!
And honestly, I just find you a weird person in general. You are on a psychic review forum, don't want to share your personal experiences, but spend a lot of time and energy defending incorrect predictions. Goading us into seeing that the prediction was somehow right and that we somehow messed things up. Are you a reader? That is the only thing I can think of that would cause you to be so gung ho about failed predictions. Either that, or you were ran off the forum here before I came and are trying to play with everyone's mind for fun. I think I will just place you on ignore. I suggest others do it as well.
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Kicking -
I am asking that you not render an opinion on my case as you have no idea what is going on in my life and that is the way I will keep it. If you wish to place bets on others' predictions have at it, but not on mine. Now, as kindly as I can I am asking you to "lay off" your suppositions and accusations. You know nothing about me and that is how I wish it to remain. Thank you!
You don't give information or prediction updates because you haven't had any. Bark, you are holding on and hoping that someone will be right....I don't fault you for that. The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.
Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me. No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die? No one posted - no one dared. Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas. How do I know that? Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result. I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum. I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past. So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.
Capisce?
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It failed because I was told he would propose, we would get married and we would move together to where he wanted to be...across the country. The proposal happened...and he did talk about relocating across the country with me, but that was it. Counseling sessions proved he has some serious emotional issues that would not lend to a happy marriage. I EXPECT A READER TO CLUE ME INTO THAT not paint a rosy picture that everything will be alright...because it isnt alright!
And honestly, I just find you a weird person in general. You are on a psychic review forum, don't want to share your personal experiences, but spend a lot of time and energy defending incorrect predictions. Goading us into seeing that the prediction was somehow right and that we somehow messed things up. Are you a reader? That is the only thing I can think of that would cause you to be so gung ho about failed predictions. Either that, or you were ran off the forum here before I came and are trying to play with everyone's mind for fun. I think I will just place you on ignore. I suggest others do it as well.
Think what you wish bstalling, but no I am not a reader. I am a caller that has found *some* of the psychics I have consulted to be talented and accurate. Not all - read my lips - but some. Just as in any profession. For example, not all lawyers or psychiatrists are talented. Just because they have a strong of letters after their name, it doesn't mean they are good, nor does it mean that they are psychologically healthy either! So, some psychics that I have used have been accurate for me. They might not be for you. Everyone's mileage may vary.
However, I have shared plenty on this forum and in chat. Read back through my posts and you'll see for yourself. I actively engaged in chat with other members until recently when something erupted at the ringleaders bequest, and I decided my time was more valuable spent elsewhere.
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This coming from the person who has no qualms in expressing her opinions about or offering analysis of someone's situation, of which you have a limited understanding.
Kicking -
I am asking that you not render an opinion on my case as you have no idea what is going on in my life and that is the way I will keep it. If you wish to place bets on others' predictions have at it, but not on mine. Now, as kindly as I can I am asking you to "lay off" your suppositions and accusations. You know nothing about me and that is how I wish it to remain. Thank you!
You don't give information or prediction updates because you haven't had any. Bark, you are holding on and hoping that someone will be right....I don't fault you for that. The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.
Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me. No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die? No one posted - no one dared. Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas. How do I know that? Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result. I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum. I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past. So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.
Capisce?
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So at this point, I am fine with the failed r/s. I have one I never could have imagined now. I wouldn't want to go back to someone that has no boundaries, someone who's so hard to work with.
I agree that there are many reasons that this man is not with me BUT it doesn't change the fact that just about every psychic I talked to told me otherwise. They fed me the same lines that many here are fed. And they were wrong.
Are you saying that all readers render a positive outcome to callers that are inquiring about reconciliation? Because, there are readers that give negative outcomes, why on this forum there are dozens of members that have shared that a reader has said someone won't come back. Perhaps you just never connected with any of those.
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This coming from the person who has no qualms in expressing her opinions about or offering analysis of someone's situation, of which you have a limited understanding.
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Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!
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Divine,
Kicking is saying that I have had no predictions materialize. I am telling her that I have. I don't care what she thinks or writes here - she has no idea. And the fact that you jump on her bandwagon every time shows me your orientation too. I am simply here to try to offer my own experience. I know it doesn't work into your plan if someone has had success with readings. I get it. You all want to continue to believe that all psychics are rubbish. Keep thinking that, I don't care, but don't try to twist my words or fabricate outcomes when you have no idea. Whether I ask a question about another members posts or not, at no point do I make it a witch hunt as this has become with me. I've been called a "Lawyer, troll, disgruntled member " is there no end to the insults that will be thrust at me just because I do not share your revered opinion? Look at yourselves!
I offer comments on that which has been shared online in this forum. Not on suppositions, not on fabrications, not on missing information or the absence of information which is what kicking is doing. There is a difference.
'Of course I don't doubt why you cannot admit that.
As you were. I am done!
This coming from the person who has no qualms in expressing her opinions about or offering analysis of someone's situation, of which you have a limited understanding.
Kicking -
I am asking that you not render an opinion on my case as you have no idea what is going on in my life and that is the way I will keep it. If you wish to place bets on others' predictions have at it, but not on mine. Now, as kindly as I can I am asking you to "lay off" your suppositions and accusations. You know nothing about me and that is how I wish it to remain. Thank you!
You don't give information or prediction updates because you haven't had any. Bark, you are holding on and hoping that someone will be right....I don't fault you for that. The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.
Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed? Selfish reasons? I think so.
Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me. No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die? No one posted - no one dared. Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas. How do I know that? Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result. I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum. I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past. So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.
Capisce?
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Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!
bstalling
I am not arguing wrong predictions - I am saying that perhaps there is more to getting a successful prediction than just calling a psychic and expecting a fairytale ending. That is it.
I do have a right to defend accusations against me and my case as is being thrust on me by some people on here. And I did take your comment about being a troll as a huge insult.
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I have to say I got a big chuckle out of this one coming from you. "The object here is to be truthful about reading" would include admitting when you are getting them and not denying the fact that you are reading, correct?
The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.
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In order to offer your experience, you have to actually do so. Sharing your experience does not simply consist of your opinions, but in fact it means you also share these wonderful manifesting predictions.
I am on no one's bandwagon. If you remember correctly, I was the first to ask why you often feel compelled to tell others how they should understand their readings.
What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective.
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Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!
bstalling
I am not arguing wrong predictions - I am saying that perhaps there is more to getting a successful prediction than just calling a psychic and expecting a fairytale ending. That is it.
I do have a right to defend accusations against me and my case as is being thrust on me by some people on here. And I did take your comment about being a troll as a huge insult.
A troll is how you come across sometimes.
As for the bolded, that is what you seem to promote. Just call the reader, don't rock the boat, and your prediction would come to pass. Many posters have done just that and nothing has happened as the psychics said it would. According to you, if a prediction didn't come to pass, you must have done something (not let go, yelled at ex, etc etc) for it not to happen. Ridiculous! And let us not talk about the clients that were not told "hey, this won't work and here is why". Sigh.
I think psychics have talent, but their talent is not to be counted on for anything having to do with your life. Rarely will they hit the spot like you want them to. They may provide some form of counseling or therapy if you can't get over something, but that is it. I just stick around to hear someone say that things have happened as stated by a psychic.
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Please read the forum....please read the forum. I have shared my experiences in the past and the reason I will not share anything publicly on the forum now is because of the witch hunt your group puts me though.
I have invited people to PM me. That is the extent to which I will offer my advice. If you don't like it take the ones that call me a troll, a liar, a reader, a lawyer, a whatever to task and realize that I don't have to be subjected to this JUST because I don't share your opinions.
And if you need some reading material to see that I did share my experiences, until I was on the receiving end of this blood bath, you can start here
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1215.msg19598.html#msg19598
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1215.msg19595.html#msg19595
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1340.msg19580.html#msg19580
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1271.msg19401.html#msg19401
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1163.msg19384.html#msg19384
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1218.msg19349.html#msg19349
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1296.msg18938.html#msg18938
In order to offer your experience, you have to actually do so. Sharing your experience does not simply consist of your opinions, but in fact it means you also share these wonderful manifesting predictions.
I am on no one's bandwagon. If you remember correctly, I was the first to ask why you often feel compelled to tell others how they should understand their readings.
What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective.
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Actually, this post proves that my point is getting lost on some of you. I am not promoting to take the reader at face value at all. How could you miss that?
I am saying:
Consider the source
Consider the value of what it is you are asking for
Consider if it is worth coming back
Consider your part in it
Consider his or her part in it
Consider that nothing good comes of nothing
Consider that if the Universe is bringing something your way it is not necessarily in your time
Consider that work might be needed on both sides
Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!
bstalling
I am not arguing wrong predictions - I am saying that perhaps there is more to getting a successful prediction than just calling a psychic and expecting a fairytale ending. That is it.
I do have a right to defend accusations against me and my case as is being thrust on me by some people on here. And I did take your comment about being a troll as a huge insult.
A troll is how you come across sometimes.
As for the bolded, that is what you seem to promote. Just call the reader, don't rock the boat, and your prediction would come to pass. Many posters have done just that and nothing has happened as the psychics said it would. According to you, if a prediction didn't come to pass, you must have done something (not let go, yelled at ex, etc etc) for it not to happen. Ridiculous! And let us not talk about the clients that were not told "hey, this won't work and here is why". Sigh.
I think psychics have talent, but their talent is not to be counted on for anything having to do with your life. Rarely will they hit the spot like you want them to. They may provide some form of counseling or therapy if you can't get over something, but that is it. I just stick around to hear someone say that things have happened as stated by a psychic.
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Were not stupid, I'm sure most of us consider those things. But at the end of the day, the psychics were wrong.
I see you like to switch around your arguments depending on what you are defending.
And those posts didn't detail any big outcome predictions that you so claim that psychics are very capable of predicting. Did you get a big outcome prediction? Rhetorical, because I know you wont share in this bloodbath :rolls eyes:
You are going to keep getting the reactions that you are getting if you continue to hop on people's threads and rationalize why their predictions were not wrong after all.
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And this, my friends, is why it is not at all surprising to me that people choose not to come back to report on any good news from any successful predictions. Who, in his or her right mind would want to come back to a place that is so unwelcoming and so hateful as this place? If someone does not share your ideas, notions, opinions you resort to insulting and denigrating. Why some even try to run members off the board!
Yes, bstalling, I did!
I wish you all well. And I hope, for you also, that all of your dreams come true.
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To be quite honest, I don't care about your situation or your manifested prediction, so I have no desire to read through your posts; but thank you for taking the effort that you have. My asking you to share was prompted because you so liberally share how you think others are misunderstanding their readings or offering how you think they could have handled things differently. If given the chance, I would love to do the same for you; I am sure I can help. :)
What I care about, really, is the following, which you seemed to gloss over:
"What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective."
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Divine,
Screams hypocrisy? Really? I already answered this question several pages back. Why the haranguing?
Here it is again
Divinewishes,
I am not clarifying someone's understanding of a reading at all. I am simply making my own observation. Just as you are here too. I don't limit you or suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself.
All I am trying to point out, and I personally believe this is important everyone would be best to consider, and that is that no psychic prediction or reading should be heeded when and if the client has intuition that indicates otherwise. And in this case, sagitira didn't allow the psychics to trump her own intuition, even though she didn't realize it.
That's all. I have no intention nor am I commenting on others when they have come to accept what is. Actually, if you read what I was saying closely you would see that I was noticing that sagitira was not really accepting what the psychics had told her to accept. Although she was claiming she shouldn't have listened to them, in fact, from an outsider's point of view it appeared she didn't accept those predictions anyway.
....and I will be clear to state that there is a vast difference between offering an opinion which I did above and a bunch of miserable people ganging up on another person because they don't regurgitate the negativity and exact words of their group-mates. This is worse than high school! That's evident here and in chat which is why I do not go there anymore and I don't share on the board anymore. It is not because I am not open to opposing opinions, it is because it does not rest there.
All of your group cannot leave it at an opinion, it is rendered down to mud-slinging, denigrating, insulting. That is why.
At no point in this discussion did I denigrate, insult, sling mud or launch a witch hunt against sagitira. Nowhere, and I will defy you to find one word that would suggest that.
I have an opinion, she has hers. There is a difference with Kicking and her henchmen. It doesn't stop at an opposing view. Then the insults begin and before you know it there is ALL CAPS and insults and accusations that are based on some jealousy or fabrication.
What I care about, really, is the following, which you seemed to gloss over:
"What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective."
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You are going to keep getting the reactions that you are getting if you continue to hop on people's threads and rationalize why their predictions were not wrong after all.
bstalling,
I am a grown woman and I don't care about opposing views. What I do feel is beyond the pale is the insults and accusations. I don't throw them, but I sure am a target for some of you. It is a shame that you are unable to see how low you stoop!
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Bark, here is your quote just three posts down in this thread.
sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting. Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago? I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened.
This is what you do again and again. It is downright insulting when you question other people's final outcomes. It is disrespectful. I'm not sure why you don't realize it. Yet when other people ask you to take a look at your situation, you scream "bloodbath". Own up to this! It is annoying especially when you don't share any details about what psychics got right/wrong for you. If you would just stop doing that, people will be more open about your ideas, if you start your own threads.
Someone just PMed me and told me you got ran off the board for doing the same things a while ago before I came here.
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bstalling,
There is nothing insulting about what I asked sagitira. And it is not a question as to the final outcome. What I shared with sagitira was, and I hope my memory serves me well on this, but she said she wished she had not listened to the psychics, but in reality she didn't listen because she took matters into her own hands and addressed her love interest instead of waiting on the final outcome the psychics had offered.
And finally, bstalling, a blood bath is quite different from someone asking me or anyone to look at something a different way. A blood bath is the ganging up, mud-slinging, casting aspersions, accusations, wrongful comments, insults......
I have shared plenty on this board. Read, read, read, read. Then you can come back an offer me an apology. You are beyond reasonable.
As for the rest of your comment, I will not dignify it with a comment..... but to say that if having and voicing an opinion, all the while being attacked, incessantly by others, but not attacking them back is cause for being run off, then what kind of a place is this?
Bark, here is your quote just three posts down in this thread.
sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting. Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago? I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened.
This is what you do again and again. It is downright insulting when you question other people's final outcomes. It is disrespectful. I'm not sure why you don't realize it. Yet when other people ask you to take a look at your situation, you scream "bloodbath". Own up to this! It is annoying especially when you don't share any details about what psychics got right/wrong for you. If you would just stop doing that, people will be more open about your ideas, if you start your own threads.
Someone just PMed me and told me you got ran off the board for doing the same things a while ago before I came here.
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Bark,
I don't condone name calling, and I won't defend it.
I will be blunt here, I don't think anyone of us wants anyone else's opinion on their situation. I know you don't care for me to express my opinion on your situation. Here is my take, many of us are not friends, nor will we ever be friends. I joined this forum to learn about good psychics, not to hear some stranger's opinion of my situation -- I don't care for it, and I don't welcome it. Ultimately, I feel my problem with your post to Sagitira was that it came off as judgmental and preachy, as you took the effort to explain to her the reality of HER situation.
There is a difference between commenting on a psychic reading and commenting on how someone has handled their life.
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Ultimately, I feel my problem with your post to Sagitira was that it came off as judgmental and preachy, as you took the effort to explain to her the reality of HER situation. There is a difference between commenting on a psychic reading and commenting on how someone has handled their life.
Quoted for emphasis. This is what is disrespectful about it. I'm not sure why you understand this when it comes to you, but not anyone else.
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Divine,
Please don't counsel me on proper decorum. Why not counsel others on theirs? I commented on my opinion of what sagitira had shared publicly on this board. That's not awful. She does not have to accept my opinion at all. It is only that, an opinion on what she had written. However, Kicking commented and arrived at her own conclusion on MATTERS THAT I HAD NOT shared on a board. How reasonable is that? And yet you allow it and support it.
Preachy? Listen, that's your impression. Read my comment again, I was simply saying I think at the end she should not denigrate herself for having relied on psychics predictions, because in the end she had the courage to take matters in her own hands and forge her destiny without relying on what psychics had told her. Of course it takes an open mind to be able to read that in my comments. So, I am not surprised that it was lost on some of you.
Finally, anyone that resorts to name calling, insults, mud-slinging, accusations - sorry I won't stoop to your level. This is how it goes on here. You have to have stamina to swim against the current on here and that is sad. There are so many members that have reached out to me to explain that this is why they don't participate on here anymore. And that goes against the whole reason a board like this exists. It is a sad situation.
I am done. I choose not to engage with people that have such a distorted view of what is right and wrong. And to ALL of people that PM'd me your support during this attack. Thank you. I appreciate your support. I feel for all of you.
Bark,
I don't condone name calling, and I won't defend it.
I will be blunt here, I don't think anyone of us wants anyone else's opinion on their situation. I know you don't care for me to express my opinion on your situation. Here is my take, many of us are not friends, nor will we ever be friends. I joined this forum to learn about good psychics, not to hear some stranger's opinion of my situation -- I don't care for it, and I don't welcome it. Ultimately, I feel my problem with your post to Sagitira was that it came off as judgmental and preachy, as you took the effort to explain to her the reality of HER situation.
There is a difference between commenting on a psychic reading and commenting on how someone has handled their life.
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I see that you have taken it upon yourself to subtly insult me: "Of course it takes an open mind to be able to read that in my comments. So, I am not surprised that it was lost on you."
I have had many blessings in my life, and continue to see them pouring in; I am far from being close-minded. For instance, I have never commented on the unwavering faith that you have in your relationship reconciling, which I think is interesting; and I have not done so because it is none of my business. Also, I bet you don't care for my comments/opinions.
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Divine,
The correct quote is Of course it takes an open mind to be able to read that in my comments. So, I am not surprised that it was lost on some of you." No personal insult intended.
I see that you have taken it upon yourself to subtly insult me: "Of course it takes an open mind to be able to read that in my comments. So, I am not surprised that it was lost on you."
I have had many blessings in my life, and continue to see them pouring in; I am far from being close-minded. For instance, I have never commented on the unwavering faith that you have in your relationship reconciling, which I think is interesting; and I have not done so because it is none of my business. Also, I bet you don't care for my comments/opinions.
Divine,
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Anyway, thanks for helping me kill some time as I waited for my flight. It's been tons of fun! 8)
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I hope you will now retract your insult of me as I was not directing that comment to you. Additionally, you were in chat one day and participated in a discussion with others that I sensed was a little more than an opinion. I would be wrong, but I left chat that day and chose not to return while those people are in there. It is my prerogative to do that. Furthermore, while I appreciate your interest in my unwavering faith, you and others have no idea of the disposition of my relationship at this time and it is my prerogative to keep it that way. For reasons that should be, by now, quite obvious.
I see that you have taken it upon yourself to subtly insult me: "Of course it takes an open mind to be able to read that in my comments. So, I am not surprised that it was lost on you."
I have had many blessings in my life, and continue to see them pouring in; I am far from being close-minded. For instance, I have never commented on the unwavering faith that you have in your relationship reconciling, which I think is interesting; and I have not done so because it is none of my business. Also, I bet you don't care for my comments/opinions.
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Bark,
I don't condone name calling, and I won't defend it.
I will be blunt here, I don't think anyone of us wants anyone else's opinion on their situation. I know you don't care for me to express my opinion on your situation. Here is my take, many of us are not friends, nor will we ever be friends. I joined this forum to learn about good psychics, not to hear some stranger's opinion of my situation -- I don't care for it, and I don't welcome it. Ultimately, I feel my problem with your post to Sagitira was that it came off as judgmental and preachy, as you took the effort to explain to her the reality of HER situation.
There is a difference between commenting on a psychic reading and commenting on how someone has handled their life.
Whew, eight pages so far. Wow.
Bark, I have no issue with you and you can accuse me of being someone's henchman all you want. Ultimately, I do see what you are saying. It is just a prediction, just like the weather. Energies shift, actions cause motion, inaction is static. I get it. If you, or anyone for that matter, were to read many of my earlier posts about this subject I have a very similar sentiment as you. I just wish with that intelligent and eloquent worded brain of yours that you could for just a moment see past your ego and be open to other's opinions as well. We are not a ship of fools that your enlightened words are lost on and to keep driving that home IS insulting.
I've read through all of these pages and have read through many of the pages of other posts that you commandeer. You come at others as tho you are being "helpful", are offering guidance or a different perspective, that all of this is just your opinion, etc. Yet, when others counter your analysis and dissemination of their own experience you call it an "attack", a "witch hunt", or a "blood bath". That's a bit dramatic for someone that sets up the bullseye to begin with.
You say no one "dares" post here because of kicking or others but I'm afraid most of us don't post our experiences here anymore because of you. No one wants to have their personal experience dismantled and used "as an example" for eight pages by a stranger that ultimately blames the person sharing in the first place and then has the audacity to cry it's just my opinion and I'm entitled to it. You say this is like HS, but the dramatic way you handle rejection and opposition does remind me of my 14 year old niece. I don't mean that in a mean spirited way, it's just that you act like everyone is attacking you when many are asking you to stop being disrespectful to them. It's a back and forth argument that you engage yourself in time and time again. Why not just let others post their experiences and let them be?
For all of the "supporters" that are PMing Bark during this blood bath do you mind speaking up? I'd love to hear other's opinions about this, too, and I certainly am open to hearing why many of us are evil and negative just because we don't want to face a challenge or an acute analysis of our readings every time we post a review.
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Decibel,
I commented on sagitira's report. There are literally hundreds ad hundreds of posts on here and you are claiming that I am raining on everyone's parade? I have an opinion, just as you have yours. I don't blast you with attacks and insults when you write what you wish, and I epxect the same in return. I have no problem debating theory or whatever. That is my problem with this whole thread. If I don't share my personal nitty gritty details I am considered wasting time on this board. I am sorry, I did not think I had to do what a select few think I should in order to be a member here.
Please also note that I just don't resort to hyperbole. I don't make black and white statements. I commented on one post. Not all posts. Not all threads - just one thread. However, the reason this one has gone on as long as it has is because it long ago departed from being a discussion on sagitira and it resorted into a blood bath. Which, by the way is quite common on here. Furthermore, I won't be insulted. Just as you should expect to be either. That is what I have defended. The insults.
There are plenty of PMs that I've received stating the same. people witness the witch hunts and just don't want to be the next prey. It's a theme around here.
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So at this point, I am fine with the failed r/s. I have one I never could have imagined now. I wouldn't want to go back to someone that has no boundaries, someone who's so hard to work with.
I agree that there are many reasons that this man is not with me BUT it doesn't change the fact that just about every psychic I talked to told me otherwise. They fed me the same lines that many here are fed. And they were wrong.
Are you saying that all readers render a positive outcome to callers that are inquiring about reconciliation? Because, there are readers that give negative outcomes, why on this forum there are dozens of members that have shared that a reader has said someone won't come back. Perhaps you just never connected with any of those.
Way to twist words. You can see clearly above that I was talking about my own situation. You also deleted the part where I said "my case specifically"
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Decibel,
I commented on sagitira's report. There are literally hundreds ad hundreds of posts on here and you are claiming that I am raining on everyone's parade? I have an opinion, just as you have yours. I don't blast you with attacks and insults when you write what you wish, and I epxect the same in return. I have no problem debating theory or whatever. That is my problem with this whole thread. If I don't share my personal nitty gritty details I am considered wasting time on this board. I am sorry, I did not think I had to do what a select few think I should in order to be a member here.
Please also note that I just don't resort to hyperbole. I don't make black and white statements. I commented on one post. Not all posts. Not all threads - just one thread. However, the reason this one has gone on as long as it has is because it long ago departed from being a discussion on sagitira and it resorted into a blood bath. Which, by the way is quite common on here. Furthermore, I won't be insulted. Just as you should expect to be either. That is what I have defended. The insults.
There are plenty of PMs that I've received stating the same. people witness the witch hunts and just don't want to be the next prey. It's a theme around here.
I genuinely have no problem debating theories and such either, and there have been many posts you have written that have opened my mind to how to use readings, etc. I also do not think your input is a waste of this forum's time so do not lump me in that category if you had. I just think that why others, including myself, get upset is that many times you don't just let a dead dog lie. If the outcome was wrong it just plain is sometimes. We are all here because we have some sort of faith and I will not knock you for yours. All I am personally asking is to not dismantle everyone's experience as they perceive it. You don't have to agree with it.
And this witch hunt and blood bath as you keep calling it seems to only be evident to you and others that are not speaking up. I've seen nothing in these pages that reads like an attack. It's a forum and things get heated, yes, but I don't think everyone is being cruel just because they don't agree with you.
To update everyone on my situation: many of my trusted readers all saw my ex splitting with horsey in April of last year. They moved in with each other instead. Keeping an open mind, I thought, "maybe the meant April of 2014 instead?" Well, guess what? Not only are they still together but they are now looking for apartments this month of April to just live with each other with no roommates. I saw him last night and we chatted for a bit. He's happy and he loves her, etc. Am I permitted to safely say my predictions were wrong? Please? Can I just have at least that? (This is meant to be funny, lol!)
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I am tired of Kicking being picked on. Grow up
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I joined this this forum because I wanted to have people to relate to that where going through similar things. I was not expecting the crap that has been going on. People are afraid to post afraid to chat.. it has become a dead forum really
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Decibel, ya, I think you can say they were wrong! :)
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I joined this this forum because I wanted to have people to relate to that where going through similar things. I was not expecting the crap that has been going on. People are afraid to post afraid to chat.. it has become a dead forum really
Likewise ... I haven't checked in for a couple of days and what I find when I return is pages of useless arguments and insults. Grow up, people. And, well, psychics are not really psychics. Once you have all figured it out, you'll feel better and will behave like adults.
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Wow..reading the series of threads in this topic is SAD and quite depressing! I haven't pm'd Bark, but from reading these posts it does appear a lot of you are dumping a load of crap on her. I reluctantly post because of moments such as these. I happen to agree with Bark by the way.
In my opinion, readings are to be taken lightly with a grain of salt. Psychics are not God, they are human don't know everything and are apt to be wrong. It would be irresponsible of me to blame the reader, be upset with them because something a stranger told me. The tone and pace of this forum has become very negative. Predictions I'm sure have happened for people, perhaps we don't hear of them because they are happily living their lives.
My final outcome, the reason I was calling not too long ago happened for me. My big prediction that I've called about and I've posted it. But the negative outcomes seem to trump the positive ones on this forum, it is indeed sad.
Sorry to those who have not have good experiences and have been perhaps been led on by a reader. But it is not fair to assess that no one had their 'big prediction' come to fruition. Readers in the past have been wrong for me, and yet I never lived my life by whatever was told to me. Even the positive things, I just filed away and didn't dwell on them.
I now mainly call regarding other issues aside from love issues. I used to enjoy reading the posts on this forum but it has taken quite a turn since I've joined. The same members seem to go after Bark; this topic and another thread I read. Don't know the history btw the members but as an outsider looking in that doesn't post much this is what I see. I can understand why other members would be reluctant to post and would rather just read through the thread.
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wow..this still continues....
@barkangel - i dont' know which group you are referring to when you say those outspoken. i don't belong to any group here. i found this forum alone in hope to find one psychic who would be accurate. also to share my experience. i don't understand one thing why when someone says prediction did not happen you have the need to argue that perhaps i did something wrong or that it is my mistake. i can reassure you this is NOT the case. you are upset when people analyse your experience but you have no problem trying to analyse my situation where bear in mind you have NO idea about my situation. i only shared 10percent of the actual events that took place..the rest of course i'm keeping private as it is very personal. so i can reassure you the answer is NO...there was nothing and i mean NOTHING i could have done or said that would change my situation (due to circumstances i found out later and will not share on public forum)...so when i say prediction failed i mean prediction failed. there is nothing more to it. no maybe, no what if...the reality is it FAILED..readers were WRONG..
regarding your quote:
Predictions, some predictions, are subject to change. Not all predictions are cast in stone. One has to bear that in mind. My most trusted reader states it this way, "We are not oracles, but people that sense. Psychics are like meteorologists.
what makes you think that your opinion is the right one? readers i read with claimed different things - that outcome is an outcome...some things will happen regardless of what i do...but outcome is an outcome. if you wanna believe what you are writing by all means do so. i have no intentions of changing your opinion and i'm not here to analyse your experience so please stop analysing mine. only I know what happened and why..and i also stated that those predictions about which i forgot ALSO FAILED TO MANIFEST. so obsessing or not obsessing predictions failed. i don't know what is so hard to understand. and no it is not "my own free will" that diverted predictions. how can you even suggest such thing when timeframe for reconcilliation was almost 2 years ago. so 2 years is not long enough for you to understand that it is over and no he is not coming back as readers suggested?
i have absolutely nothing against you but sometimes reading your comments can be just frustrating because you refuse to see or accept the reality. i dont' mean to upset you either but i'm trying to explain to you that really if you knew the details even you would say nope, psychics were terribly wrong and no way this can be rekindled. and nobody saw this.
why can't people just state their experience without having it pulled apart piece by piece? if i was really down do you realise your posts would just really make me more sad? implying that it is my own fault for predictions not happening? i'm lucky i'm really over my period of depression and those things no longer affect me.
as syngergy stated i too had small predictions like contact happen. not within timeframe but fairly close. however we are in daily contact so this was still expected. some readers got my past and present correct so i have no doubt that there are GIFTED READERS our there who are able to pick on current or past issues. BUT even those readers were wrong in terms of reading my future. so once again i have to stress out this was NOT connection issue as i connected with most of them.
i don't pay meteorologist to read the weather for me personally. i paid for psychics to read MY future there is a difference in this as i spent huge money on psychics (yes my fault and i do not blame anyone else)but comparing weather predictions with predicting my future...really doesn't make any sense to me. it might to you but for me is just crazy thought.
i don't need to analyse every single thing that happens. it either happens or not. if i had to analyse it everytime asking what if i did this, or should i have done that, or maybe this will work, or no i'd rather do other thing...i mean i would go mental if i kept doing this trying to make the prediction happen. i have a life to live and certainly won't waste it by analysing every single thing i do or did.
and i'm sure most of us here know life is no fairytale so why is majority of psychics selling us one? it's totally unethical from them to do so. i will definitely not sit here trying to make excuses for psychics. absolutely not! most of them are frauds and i'm saying this based on MY experience.
you say you don't insult people - calling others bunch of miserable people doesn't seem to be insulting? some people are still down and sad. how can you say this and then act like the one you have been attacked? your posts are arrogant i'm sorry to say that. if you don't want others to insult you then stop insulting others as well. it is insulting to me if someone who knows very little about my situation implies that i did something wrong. you can ask questions but your opinions will not be relevant or helpful because you don't know the full picture. i ask my close friends who are in the picture for opinion or advise.
this doesn't need to be any blood bath or witch hunt. this is about experience. if some members don't agree with other members opinion they can say so but to analyse the actual events without having much information is not right. i like reading other people's experience - good or bad but i find it rude to imply to someone that it is their mistake. i'd rather say i'm here if you need to talk because i know how you feel or i post my experience so the reader doesn't feel alone and helpless. i also like to discuss different theories why things happen or they don't, or generally about psychics. i don't mind. as long as i'm not being told by strangers that perhaps i did things wrong. it's not nice. yes maybe i did things wrong we all make mistakes and learn from them. but i know if my predictions manifested or not.
thank you everyone who defended my post about stating my experience. it meant a lot to me. i know guys we all went through heartache or pain and last thing we need is for people to state how we might have affected the outcome and how it's not the readers fault.
decibel diva i'm sorry about your situation with your ex looking for a flat. i remember your posts in fact i tried some readers you recommended as well. i really hope and wish that all of us find our happiness and hope our experiences make us stronger and we can better pick our guys next time :))
people shouldn't be afraid to post their experience. is this not why this forum was created? i have been told this by a few people that they don't want their posts analysed so they rather not post. this is just wrong. this forum is about finding legitimate psychic, someone who can predict the future. how are we going to find such person if people are being attacked for posting their opinion? or just have their post analysed from top to bottom so they eventually feel even worse then before they post?? (not talking about me now but i know some people do)?
there is page after page of arguments where it shouldn't be this way. this post was originally started by lovelygirl asking about other people's experience. not meant to be arguing how my own predictions didn't manifest because i said or did something.
i'm quite busy now, so i won't be responding to anymore posts on this thread. if someone wants to know something please pm me. when i can i will respond.
anyway thank you all for your comments. i will end by saying and agreeing with most of you = if you have readings dont' take them too seriously or don't base your decisions around what psychics told you. yes there are some gifted readers out there i'm sure of that. just i haven't been able to find one who was accurate for me yet.
i didn't meant o upset or insult anyone by this post and i use CAPS to emphasise certain things and not meaning to shout (i rarely shout anyway) so if me using caps offended anyone then i apologise.
also wish everyone nice weekend. i hope this arguments stop. i do not wish for my experience to be analysed or anyone else implying that i caused my outcomes not happening simply cause nobody has enough facts to be able to make opinions about my situation. i apologise for any typing mistakes i was rushing.
thank you.
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Sagitira, you are too kind and thank you for thinking about me while being so busy yourself. My plate is also full with my own things right now and I have a feeling when I do meet my Mr. Right it's gonna be unexpected and hopefully at the perfect time, lol! ;)
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sagitira -
I never meant to imply or say that you did anything wrong nor did I mean to say or imply that your prediction was accurate when it was not. I could only comment on the 10% you shared, so of course I do not know the rest. I am sorry it came out that way to cause you to feel you were being analyzed. That was not my intent. Of course, it is your choice whether you believe me or not.
Now, I believe I have apologized. So, I don't wish to be addressed anymore. This matter is closed as far as I am concerned.
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@decibel diva - i'm hoping for the same that i'd meet the one when i least expect it. i know good men are out there. my sis is the proof of this. she too met her husband over 2 years ago totally unexpectedly and this guy is best she's ever had. after many failures she managed to find a man who is caring, honest, funny and loves her so much. fingers crossed for us :)
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thank you barkangel, i appreciate it very much. it's ok. got heated a bit but thank you. i'm not at all angry with you, was just upset about a few comments but it happens sometimes, don't worry about it. and i also apologise if any of my comments insulted you. have a nice day/evening.
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This is a bump....hope everyone reads this thread...even if it is a few years old.
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This is a great thread Bella with a lot of excellent views being expressed on all sides. I'm glad you bumped it, and the other one also. I read through these and many others before I started posting here. Seeing the bickering that has gone on in the past really made me hesitate to start posting on this forum. I got the impression there are still some hurt feelings about things that have gone on here.
I gotta say whether others like it or not, I thought Bark Angel shared some really great words of wisdom in this thread. And to me it looks like others misinterpreted what she wrote and ganged up on her.
And Bark Angel if you are still around, I hope you don't mind that I brought your name back up. But I thought one of your posts really bears repeating. Now for me it would be ideal if I had a neon sign over my telephone saying this:
No psychic reading should ever trump your own intuition and gut feeling. Furthermore, reputable psychics will be sure to tell you that up front and without hesitation.
Now I wholeheartedly believe that is true. It is more important to trust ourselves than to trust any reader or place their words over what you know or feel to be true.
And this is exactly where things have gone wrong for me in my worst experiences with having readings. What the reader said conflicted with my own intuition, and I felt torn between believing them and trusting myself.
I do believe the actions we take after a reading can definitely affect the outcome. I also believe the underlying energy of that action can have a strong impact...in other words if I feel calm and right about what I'm doing it is likely to have a very different outcome, than if I feel upset and conflicted and torn.
I have thought a lot about how participating in a forum like this might affect things for me and for others who read this or could even ripple out in ways I would never guess at. I want to be honest about my experiences with readers, but I don't want to cause anyone to doubt themselves or lose faith in something they feel is right.
I know I probably sound like a real downer at times, but my underlying intent is to discourage people from putting faith in readers to the extent that it is harmful to themselves. I hope by sharing some of the bad experiences I've had, it might help others.