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[HornetKick]

If they are narcs, why would they see they are causing harm? Knowing they are narcissisti c, we recognize they way the operate. Narcs can only see what they are getting from you and they are happy with the results. How many times do people allow others to steal from them and take and take and take. A person can only do things to us that we allow.

[star1]

If they are narcs, why would they see they are causing harm? Knowing they are narcissisti c, we recognize they way the operate. Narcs can only see what they are getting from you and they are happy with the results. How many times do people allow others to steal from them and take and take and take. A person can only do things to us that we allow.

I think that they know to a degree what they're doing. They don't care about anyone really, it's about ego boosting and getting what they want. From my experience of narcs, they like seeing you hurt and find a way to punish you. It could be something you did yesterday or 5 years ago. They cannot feel empathy which is why they are who they are. Normal people would hurt someone and something in their brain says "that's wrong! You hurt them!".

Do you remember about 2 weeks ago you posted about your friend who's bf manipulated her into skipping her exams to go to something with her and when she got bad grades she moaned to him and he twisted it onto her "I didn't force you to skip it, you were the one who did this and that"? They know what they're doing, they're very smarmy about it, too. It's evil and wicked. They know "if I contact so and so, she's there waiting for me and will help me out. Stupid b-ch", and they will come after you and get what they want, then drop you instantly. They love you until they get what they want "I love her so much for helping me with money, I love that money. But am I in love with her? Hell no. Time to drop her. I got what I wanted".

[Sapphirewaters1]

I have a ex narc that still comes around and now lives in GA (I’m in MA). He popped up via text in mid December wating to try things. I told him he was delusional thinking a LDR was going to work when ours didn’t in the same location. Lol. He keeps trying. We have been on and off since 2012. I’m all set. Not having it. But he try’s.

[Mon]

SK did confirm what I felt from my dream that he is my soulmate and that she does not tell many people that. I know that he really really likes me by his actions and I can read him, he’s always been so truthful too so I’ll believe he loves me. Time will tell.

I’m sorry for anyone dealing with a narcissist </3 my last relationshi p 3 years ago was with one and god did it traumatize me. I should have known though he never showed me real I’ve even though he said he did the things he did to me... I learned my lesson for sure.

[ShootingStar]

I couldn’t have said it better myself! You explained it perfectly.

[icloud9]

I actually think my ex fiance is a narc. There is no way he could have actually truly loved me if he cheated on me twice during the relationshi p. And made me actually completely believe him when he said it was a "mistake." It also feels like he was trying to over compensate with material things with me... He has told me many times that he loves me but it's definitely not the love that I feel is genuine and authentic; especially not the kind of love I DESERVE, which is uncondition al and PURE love. Like you said, it feels  self-serving. While I do believe him when he says he loves me I believe he loved me for the validation I gave him. (I was that one that him and all of his friends wanted; but he GOT me. So in a way I give him the "winner" status)
 Although I love him dearly as a person and I care for him, I am glad I called off the wedding. It's hilarious how he is still around and asking me to give him ANOTHER chance I in a way feel like it's a game for him because IMO narcissists enjoy the chase because it's a form of validation for them if they DO get what they were going after. I didn't want to be his wife just to be his status symbol.. I want a man who I can truly share LOVE with. I couldn't give two sh*ts about his millionaire status. He always puts my POI down (my ex and I are friends so we do  keep in touch) whenever he gets a chance... and tells me that I deserve "better" (referring to himself) like he completely dismisses the fact that he cheated on me.
I tell him my POI makes me very happy....TH e ex seems to completely disregard that? I wonder if he knows what makes me trly happy??? whatever. He's a fun person, so I will keep him as a friend, but i will NOT believe a word he says when it comes to wanting another chance with me!!
THere was a little bit of a moment I had during the holidays where I felt a little distance with my POI and I was leaning towards my ex a little (was getting manipulated once again!! Lol) but I snapped out of it! haha. NOT TODAY SATAN! lol

[ShootingStar]

I actually think my ex fiance is a narc. There is no way he could have actually truly loved me if he cheated on me twice during the relationshi p. And made me actually completely believe him when he said it was a "mistake." It also feels like he was trying to over compensate with material things with me... He has told me many times that he loves me but it's definitely not the love that I feel is genuine and authentic; especially not the kind of love I DESERVE, which is uncondition al and PURE love. Like you said, it feels  self-serving. While I do believe him when he says he loves me I believe he loved me for the validation I gave him. (I was that one that him and all of his friends wanted; but he GOT me. So in a way I give him the "winner" status)
 Although I love him dearly as a person and I care for him, I am glad I called off the wedding. It's hilarious how he is still around and asking me to give him ANOTHER chance I in a way feel like it's a game for him because IMO narcissists enjoy the chase because it's a form of validation for them if they DO get what they were going after. I didn't want to be his wife just to be his status symbol.. I want a man who I can truly share LOVE with. I couldn't give two sh*ts about his millionaire status. He always puts my POI down (my ex and I are friends so we do  keep in touch) whenever he gets a chance... and tells me that I deserve "better" (referring to himself) like he completely dismisses the fact that he cheated on me.
I tell him my POI makes me very happy....TH e ex seems to completely disregard that? I wonder if he knows what makes me trly happy??? whatever. He's a fun person, so I will keep him as a friend, but i will NOT believe a word he says when it comes to wanting another chance with me!!
THere was a little bit of a moment I had during the holidays where I felt a little distance with my POI and I was leaning towards my ex a little (was getting manipulated once again!! Lol) but I snapped out of it! haha. NOT TODAY SATAN! lol

Hahahaha not today satan! Good for you! Yea they are charmers for sure, which frustrates me to no end because everyone thinks my dad is great when they meet him and think I’m nuts that I complain about him so much lol. He is on his 4th wife and they all married him very quickly. THEN they see but he controls and manipulates after that. Narcs know how to get what they want, that’s for sure. I have been fooled into letting him back in my life too many times but I put my foot down now, glad you have set the boundaries for yourself!

[ShootingStar]

I just read with Kira - she def is psychic! She picked up what happened with my boyfriend right away. She gave a timeline for a resolution but we will see as I’m hoping it will be earlier than that. But she’s real y’all!!

That is awesome!! Glad she worked so well for you too!

[HornetKick]

I think that they know to a degree what they're doing. They don't care about anyone really, it's about ego boosting and getting what they want. From my experience of narcs, they like seeing you hurt and find a way to punish you. It could be something you did yesterday or 5 years ago. They cannot feel empathy which is why they are who they are. Normal people would hurt someone and something in their brain says "that's wrong! You hurt them!".

Do you remember about 2 weeks ago you posted about your friend who's bf manipulated her into skipping her exams to go to something with her and when she got bad grades she moaned to him and he twisted it onto her "I didn't force you to skip it, you were the one who did this and that"? They know what they're doing, they're very smarmy about it, too. It's evil and wicked. They know "if I contact so and so, she's there waiting for me and will help me out. Stupid b-ch", and they will come after you and get what they want, then drop you instantly. They love you until they get what they want "I love her so much for helping me with money, I love that money. But am I in love with her? Hell no. Time to drop her. I got what I wanted".

This is even worse IMHO, when someone hurts you on purpose and continues to do it and also enjoys it at the same time. You really can't change a person by showering them with kindness (another thread that was mentioned recently). They aren't capable of living by other people's examples. That girl you mentioned, I no longer speak to her.  We ended up moving into the same subdivision, that's how close we were and then she moved and we went our separate ways. She could never see the things I was pointing out to her and I even mentioned how her mother came to town to help her as well and that fell on deaf ears. Even with all his dysfunction s she told me once that she knows he loved her more than any other person on the planet (found out after the fact he was still married). Her family could not stand him.

[ladya]

I actually think my ex fiance is a narc. There is no way he could have actually truly loved me if he cheated on me twice during the relationshi p. And made me actually completely believe him when he said it was a "mistake." It also feels like he was trying to over compensate with material things with me... He has told me many times that he loves me but it's definitely not the love that I feel is genuine and authentic; especially not the kind of love I DESERVE, which is uncondition al and PURE love. Like you said, it feels  self-serving. While I do believe him when he says he loves me I believe he loved me for the validation I gave him. (I was that one that him and all of his friends wanted; but he GOT me. So in a way I give him the "winner" status)
 Although I love him dearly as a person and I care for him, I am glad I called off the wedding. It's hilarious how he is still around and asking me to give him ANOTHER chance I in a way feel like it's a game for him because IMO narcissists enjoy the chase because it's a form of validation for them if they DO get what they were going after. I didn't want to be his wife just to be his status symbol.. I want a man who I can truly share LOVE with. I couldn't give two sh*ts about his millionaire status. He always puts my POI down (my ex and I are friends so we do  keep in touch) whenever he gets a chance... and tells me that I deserve "better" (referring to himself) like he completely dismisses the fact that he cheated on me.
I tell him my POI makes me very happy....TH e ex seems to completely disregard that? I wonder if he knows what makes me trly happy??? whatever. He's a fun person, so I will keep him as a friend, but i will NOT believe a word he says when it comes to wanting another chance with me!!
THere was a little bit of a moment I had during the holidays where I felt a little distance with my POI and I was leaning towards my ex a little (was getting manipulated once again!! Lol) but I snapped out of it! haha. NOT TODAY SATAN! lol

narcissists are not capable of feeling love. maybe .01% but not really. maybe people with narc tendencies but actual narcs don't. real narcissists is like one step above a sociopath. general lack of empathy but can have potential to compared to sociopaths. I feel like narc is like a term thrown around by psychics just like twin flame is and has become popularized in recent years. if the person has the capability of feeling any empathy toward other people then they are not a narcissist. if they have capacity to feel bad for their actions, theyre not narcs. that's the most important thing to teach kids growing up is empathy because narcissism is mainly nurtured vs nature and comes from the way they were raised. they're extremely hollow on the inside and feel off validation from others. the chances of a narcissist changing are slim to none because they rarely ever get to that level of admitting they're a narc in the first place. they deflect everything and will somehow never take accountabil ity for their actions and if they ever apologize its an underhanded apology. there's a lot of people that can have traits or resemblance of it but not actually be it. they can simply just be pompous, arrogant, and spoiled lol there are some narcs that can feel slightly bad but its only usually toward their family mostly not anyone else. covert narcs are more scary because theyre not as easy to spot as the typical ones. theyre more passive aggressive and victimize themselves.

[star1]

I actually think my ex fiance is a narc. There is no way he could have actually truly loved me if he cheated on me twice during the relationshi p. And made me actually completely believe him when he said it was a "mistake." It also feels like he was trying to over compensate with material things with me... He has told me many times that he loves me but it's definitely not the love that I feel is genuine and authentic; especially not the kind of love I DESERVE, which is uncondition al and PURE love. Like you said, it feels  self-serving. While I do believe him when he says he loves me I believe he loved me for the validation I gave him. (I was that one that him and all of his friends wanted; but he GOT me. So in a way I give him the "winner" status)
 Although I love him dearly as a person and I care for him, I am glad I called off the wedding. It's hilarious how he is still around and asking me to give him ANOTHER chance I in a way feel like it's a game for him because IMO narcissists enjoy the chase because it's a form of validation for them if they DO get what they were going after. I didn't want to be his wife just to be his status symbol.. I want a man who I can truly share LOVE with. I couldn't give two sh*ts about his millionaire status. He always puts my POI down (my ex and I are friends so we do  keep in touch) whenever he gets a chance... and tells me that I deserve "better" (referring to himself) like he completely dismisses the fact that he cheated on me.
I tell him my POI makes me very happy....TH e ex seems to completely disregard that? I wonder if he knows what makes me trly happy??? whatever. He's a fun person, so I will keep him as a friend, but i will NOT believe a word he says when it comes to wanting another chance with me!!
THere was a little bit of a moment I had during the holidays where I felt a little distance with my POI and I was leaning towards my ex a little (was getting manipulated once again!! Lol) but I snapped out of it! haha. NOT TODAY SATAN! lol

narcissists are not capable of feeling love. maybe .01% but not really. maybe people with narc tendencies but actual narcs don't. real narcissists is like one step above a sociopath. general lack of empathy but can have potential to compared to sociopaths. I feel like narc is like a term thrown around by psychics just like twin flame is and has become popularized in recent years. if the person has the capability of feeling any empathy toward other people then they are not a narcissist. if they have capacity to feel bad for their actions, theyre not narcs. that's the most important thing to teach kids growing up is empathy because narcissism is mainly nurtured vs nature and comes from the way they were raised. they're extremely hollow on the inside and feel off validation from others. the chances of a narcissist changing are slim to none because they rarely ever get to that level of admitting they're a narc in the first place. they deflect everything and will somehow never take accountabil ity for their actions and if they ever apologize its an underhanded apology. there's a lot of people that can have traits or resemblance of it but not actually be it. they can simply just be pompous, arrogant, and spoiled lol there are some narcs that can feel slightly bad but its only usually toward their family mostly not anyone else. covert narcs are more scary because theyre not as easy to spot as the typical ones. theyre more passive aggressive and victimize themselves.

This ^^

[star1]

I think that they know to a degree what they're doing. They don't care about anyone really, it's about ego boosting and getting what they want. From my experience of narcs, they like seeing you hurt and find a way to punish you. It could be something you did yesterday or 5 years ago. They cannot feel empathy which is why they are who they are. Normal people would hurt someone and something in their brain says "that's wrong! You hurt them!".

Do you remember about 2 weeks ago you posted about your friend who's bf manipulated her into skipping her exams to go to something with her and when she got bad grades she moaned to him and he twisted it onto her "I didn't force you to skip it, you were the one who did this and that"? They know what they're doing, they're very smarmy about it, too. It's evil and wicked. They know "if I contact so and so, she's there waiting for me and will help me out. Stupid b-ch", and they will come after you and get what they want, then drop you instantly. They love you until they get what they want "I love her so much for helping me with money, I love that money. But am I in love with her? Hell no. Time to drop her. I got what I wanted".

This is even worse IMHO, when someone hurts you on purpose and continues to do it and also enjoys it at the same time. You really can't change a person by showering them with kindness (another thread that was mentioned recently). They aren't capable of living by other people's examples. That girl you mentioned, I no longer speak to her.  We ended up moving into the same subdivision, that's how close we were and then she moved and we went our separate ways. She could never see the things I was pointing out to her and I even mentioned how her mother came to town to help her as well and that fell on deaf ears. Even with all his dysfunction s she told me once that she knows he loved her more than any other person on the planet (found out after the fact he was still married). Her family could not stand him.

I used to be like your friend once, picture a dog with it's tongue out jumping through hoops for it's owner, lol. In the end, you love them so much you'd do anything for the narc. It's like they're hypnotising you and literally like a vampire sucking out all of your vulnerabili ty when everyone around you has given up and walked away (which is what the narc loves best, is when your support networks have gone).

[sawthelight]

I really feel my first POI was a narc too.  I do think knowing me made him feel things he never felt and didn’t know how to handle because he was so closed off and cold emotionally . There were times we were getting along so well, and then like a light switch, he would turn on me and act like a total jerk. I remember thinking what the heck is wrong with this guy? 

When I finally started to wake up and not take his crap anymore, he would TRY to change his behavior but I could see the old him always peeking through.  It just wasn’t in him to be a warm loving person.

[Sweetsydney2000]

I've spoken to her twice. I liked her. But the second time, she totally flipped her reading 😔

[ShootingStar]

Oh no, I hate that. She was consistent with my two. What was different? A positive then a negative prediction? I have had readers do that in the past and i don’t know if it’s because they are making it up or because things changed with the POI and they read current energy trajectory.