Total opposite

[bstalling]

This coming from the person who has no qualms in expressing her opinions about or offering analysis of someone's situation, of which you have a limited understanding.

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Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!

[Bark angel]

Divine,
Kicking is saying that I have had no predictions materialize.  I am telling her that I have.  I don't care what she thinks or writes here - she has no idea.  And the fact that you jump on her bandwagon every time shows me your orientation too.  I am simply here to try to offer my own experience.  I know it doesn't work into your plan if someone has had success with readings.  I get it. You all want to continue to believe that all psychics are rubbish. Keep thinking that, I don't care, but don't try to twist my words or fabricate outcomes when you have no idea.  Whether I ask a question about another members posts or not, at no point do I make it a witch hunt as this has become with me.  I've been called a "Lawyer, troll, disgruntled member " is there no end to the insults that will be thrust at me just because I do not share your revered opinion?  Look at yourselves! 

I offer comments on that which has been shared online in this forum.  Not on suppositions, not on fabrications, not on missing information or the absence of information which is what kicking is doing.  There is a difference.
'Of course I don't doubt why you cannot admit that.

As you were. I am done!

This coming from the person who has no qualms in expressing her opinions about or offering analysis of someone's situation, of which you have a limited understanding.

Kicking -
I am asking that you not render an opinion on my case as you have no idea what is going on in my life and that is the way I will keep it.  If you wish to place bets on others' predictions have at it, but not on mine.  Now, as kindly as I can I am asking you to "lay off" your suppositions and accusations.  You know nothing about me and that is how I wish it to remain.  Thank you!

You don't give information or prediction updates because you haven't had any.  Bark, you are holding on and hoping that someone will be right....I don't fault you for that.  The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.

Bark, why be a member here if this is how you feel? Why come here and suck the life out of the forum if you are not participating, sharing predictions that have manifested and failed?  Selfish reasons? I think so.

Kicking,
Why should I be forced off here because you are the way you are with me? I feel the way I do because of your attacks of me.  No other reason. I do not suck the life out of the forum - to wit- after you posted your thread 98.9% wrong - do you realize that the forum literally began to die?  No one posted - no one dared.  Unless they believe you and regurgitate your ideas.  How do I know that?  Because I dared to post an opposing viewpoint and got myself in a blood bath as a result.  I AM participating in this forum, that is why I post on the forum.  I choose not to share the details of my predictions with YOU because I do not wish for you to use it as fodder as you have in the past.  So if anyone feels that I am not giving enough information on my predictions to satiate their own curiosity, they can look to you for the reason.

Capisce?

[Bark angel]

Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!

bstalling
I am not arguing wrong predictions - I am saying that perhaps there is more to getting a successful prediction than just calling a psychic and expecting a fairytale ending.  That is it.
I do have a right to defend accusations against me and my case as is being thrust on me by some people on here. And I did take your comment about being a troll as a huge insult.

[Bark angel]

I have to say I got a big chuckle out of this one coming from you.  "The object here is to be truthful about reading" would include admitting when you are getting them and not denying the fact that you are reading, correct?

 The object here is to be truthful about reading, not making excuses as to why the reader is right and the caller is wrong...lol.

[divine wishes]

In order to offer your experience, you have to actually do so. Sharing your experience does not simply consist of your opinions, but in fact it means you also share these wonderful manifesting predictions.

I am on no one's bandwagon. If you remember correctly, I was the first to ask why you often feel compelled to tell others how they should understand their readings.

What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective.

[bstalling]

Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!

bstalling
I am not arguing wrong predictions - I am saying that perhaps there is more to getting a successful prediction than just calling a psychic and expecting a fairytale ending. That is it.
I do have a right to defend accusations against me and my case as is being thrust on me by some people on here. And I did take your comment about being a troll as a huge insult.

A troll is how you come across sometimes.

As for the bolded, that is what you seem to promote. Just call the reader, don't rock the boat, and your prediction would come to pass. Many posters have done just that and nothing has happened as the psychics said it would. According to you, if a prediction didn't come to pass, you must have done something (not let go, yelled at ex, etc etc) for it not to happen. Ridiculous! And let us not talk about the clients that were not told "hey, this won't work and here is why". Sigh.

I think psychics have talent, but their talent is not to be counted on for anything having to do with your life. Rarely will they hit the spot like you want them to. They may provide some form of counseling or therapy if you can't get over something, but that is it. I just stick around to hear someone say that things have happened as stated by a psychic.

[Bark angel]

Please read the forum....please read the forum.  I have shared my experiences in the past and the reason I will not share anything publicly on the forum now is because of the witch hunt your group puts me though.
I have invited people to PM me.  That is the extent to which I will offer my advice.  If you don't like it take the ones that call me a troll, a liar, a reader, a lawyer, a whatever to task and realize that I don't have to be subjected to this JUST because I don't share your opinions.

And if you need some reading material to see that I did share my experiences, until I was on the receiving end of this blood bath, you can start here
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1215.msg19598.html#msg19598
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1215.msg19595.html#msg19595
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1340.msg19580.html#msg19580
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1271.msg19401.html#msg19401
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1163.msg19384.html#msg19384
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1218.msg19349.html#msg19349
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1296.msg18938.html#msg18938

In order to offer your experience, you have to actually do so. Sharing your experience does not simply consist of your opinions, but in fact it means you also share these wonderful manifesting predictions.

I am on no one's bandwagon. If you remember correctly, I was the first to ask why you often feel compelled to tell others how they should understand their readings.

What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective.

[Bark angel]

Actually, this post proves that my point is getting lost on some of you.  I am not promoting to take the reader at face value at all.  How could you miss that?

I am saying:
Consider the source
Consider the value of what it is you are asking for
Consider if it is worth coming back
Consider your part in it
Consider his or her part in it
Consider that nothing good comes of nothing
Consider that if the Universe is bringing something your way it is not necessarily in your time
Consider that work might be needed on both sides

Seriously! I don't understand her. Is she a troll trying to just get a rise out of us? I've been as patient with her as I can. I'm open to other perspectives, but her arguments for wrong predictions are beyond ridiculous!

bstalling
I am not arguing wrong predictions - I am saying that perhaps there is more to getting a successful prediction than just calling a psychic and expecting a fairytale ending. That is it.
I do have a right to defend accusations against me and my case as is being thrust on me by some people on here. And I did take your comment about being a troll as a huge insult.

A troll is how you come across sometimes.

As for the bolded, that is what you seem to promote. Just call the reader, don't rock the boat, and your prediction would come to pass. Many posters have done just that and nothing has happened as the psychics said it would. According to you, if a prediction didn't come to pass, you must have done something (not let go, yelled at ex, etc etc) for it not to happen. Ridiculous! And let us not talk about the clients that were not told "hey, this won't work and here is why". Sigh.

I think psychics have talent, but their talent is not to be counted on for anything having to do with your life. Rarely will they hit the spot like you want them to. They may provide some form of counseling or therapy if you can't get over something, but that is it. I just stick around to hear someone say that things have happened as stated by a psychic.

[bstalling]

Were not stupid, I'm sure most of us consider those things. But at the end of the day, the psychics were wrong.
I see you like to switch around your arguments depending on what you are defending.

And those posts didn't detail any big outcome predictions that you so claim that psychics are very capable of predicting. Did you get a big outcome prediction? Rhetorical, because I know you wont share in this bloodbath :rolls eyes:

You are going to keep getting the reactions that you are getting if you continue to hop on people's threads and rationalize why their predictions were not wrong after all.

[Bark angel]

And this, my friends, is why it is not at all surprising to me that people choose not to come back to report on any good news from any successful predictions.   Who, in his or her right mind would want to come back to a place that is so unwelcoming and so hateful as this place?  If someone does not share your ideas, notions, opinions you resort to insulting and denigrating.  Why some even try to run members off the board!   

Yes, bstalling, I did!
I wish you all well. And I hope, for you also, that all of your dreams come true.

[divine wishes]

To be quite honest, I don't care about your situation or your manifested prediction, so I have no desire to read through your posts; but thank you for taking the effort that you have. My asking you to share was prompted because you so liberally share how you think others are misunderstanding their readings or offering how you think they could have handled things differently. If given the chance, I would love to do the same for you; I am sure I can help. 

What I care about, really, is the following, which you seemed to gloss over:

"What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective."

[Bark angel]

Divine,
Screams hypocrisy?  Really?  I already answered this question several pages back.  Why the haranguing?

Here it is again

Divinewishes,
I am not clarifying someone's understanding of a reading at all.  I am simply making my own observation. Just as you are here too.  I don't limit you or suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself.

All I am trying to point out, and I personally believe this is important everyone would be best to consider, and that is that no psychic prediction or reading should be heeded when and if the client has intuition that indicates otherwise. And in this case, sagitira didn't allow the psychics to trump her own intuition, even though she didn't realize it.

That's all. I have no intention nor am I commenting on others when they have come to accept what is. Actually, if you read what I was saying closely you would see that I was noticing that sagitira was not really accepting what the psychics had told her to accept.  Although she was claiming she shouldn't have listened to them, in fact, from an outsider's point of view it appeared she didn't accept those predictions anyway.

....and I will be clear to state that there is a vast difference between offering an opinion which I did above and a bunch of miserable people ganging up on another person because they don't regurgitate the negativity and exact words of their group-mates.  This is worse than high school!  That's evident here and in chat which is why I do not go there anymore and I don't share on the board anymore.  It is not because I am not open to opposing opinions, it is because it does not rest there.

All of your group cannot leave it at an opinion, it is rendered down to mud-slinging, denigrating, insulting.  That is why. 

At no point in this discussion did I denigrate, insult, sling mud or launch a witch hunt against sagitira.  Nowhere, and I will defy you to find one word that would suggest that.

I have an opinion, she has hers.  There is a difference with Kicking and her henchmen.  It doesn't stop at an opposing view.  Then the insults begin and before you know it there is ALL CAPS and insults and accusations that are based on some jealousy or fabrication.

What I care about, really, is the following, which you seemed to gloss over:

"What screams hypocrisy is your reaction to this. A little over a month ago, in chat, when a few of us asked you to look at your situation and readings in a different light, you felt attacked, and immediately argued your perspective. However, now, you feel perfectly welcomed to interject your opinion into Sagitira's understanding/perspective."

[Bark angel]

You are going to keep getting the reactions that you are getting if you continue to hop on people's threads and rationalize why their predictions were not wrong after all.

bstalling,
I am a grown woman and I don't care about opposing views.  What I do feel is beyond the pale is the insults and accusations.  I don't throw them, but I sure am a target for some of you. It is a shame that you are unable to see how low you stoop!

[bstalling]

Bark, here is your quote just three posts down in this thread.

sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting.  Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago?  I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened.

This is what you do again and again. It is downright insulting when you question other people's final outcomes. It is disrespectful. I'm not sure why you don't realize it. Yet when other people ask you to take a look at your situation, you scream "bloodbath". Own up to this! It is annoying especially when you don't share any details about what psychics got right/wrong for you. If you would just stop doing that, people will be more open about your ideas, if you start your own threads.

Someone just PMed me and told me you got ran off the board for doing the same things a while ago before I came here.

[Bark angel]

bstalling,
There is nothing insulting about what I asked sagitira.  And it is not a question as to the final outcome.  What I shared with sagitira was, and I hope my memory serves me well on this, but she said she wished she had not listened to the psychics, but in reality she didn't listen because she took matters into her own hands and addressed her love interest instead of waiting on the final outcome the psychics had offered.

And finally, bstalling, a blood bath is quite different from someone asking me or anyone to look at something a different way.  A blood bath is the ganging up, mud-slinging, casting aspersions, accusations, wrongful comments, insults......

I have shared plenty on this board.  Read, read, read, read.  Then you can come back an offer me an apology.  You are beyond reasonable.

As for the rest of your comment, I will not dignify it with a comment..... but to say that if having and voicing an opinion, all the while being attacked, incessantly by others, but not attacking them back is cause for being run off, then what kind of a place is this?

Bark, here is your quote just three posts down in this thread.

sagitira,
I find your assessment interesting.  Are you sure that you really accepted what the psychics were telling you a year ago?  I think quite the opposite of what you suspect happened, really happened.

This is what you do again and again. It is downright insulting when you question other people's final outcomes. It is disrespectful. I'm not sure why you don't realize it. Yet when other people ask you to take a look at your situation, you scream "bloodbath". Own up to this! It is annoying especially when you don't share any details about what psychics got right/wrong for you. If you would just stop doing that, people will be more open about your ideas, if you start your own threads.

Someone just PMed me and told me you got ran off the board for doing the same things a while ago before I came here.