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Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Storefront Psychics & Online Services => Topic started by: Love2lovenj on December 24, 2018, 08:26:39 PM
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Omg i had a reading with him and just his statement to check out connection was mind blowing. Has anyone else read with him?
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There’s a few threads about him on here. From the reviews, he seems very accurate and ethical.
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I did a search and saw him only mentioned a couple of times. I wish there was a thread for Bitwine individuall readers. I was just really amazed how he described my POI personality and nailed it exactly how Rachel Marie did. On the plus side he also said that he doesn't do prediction but my poi will contact me again.
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I tried him twice. First time, I was really impressed....second time, not so much. I felt a lot of what he said could apply to anyone. General stuff that is worded in a way to sound specific m if that makes sense. He also missed something huge about the poi at the time.
He’s intelligent and knows how to word things in a way that sounds impressive, but after I reread the transcript a few times, I realized it could apply to anyone that is dealing with a bad period in their relationship.
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It feels like (my poi) is a pretty engaging personality but emotionally he felt a bit more reserved and so can come off as a slight closed book and so he's kind of hard at times for you to read and fully understand. You want to know exactly how he feels about you and you want to get a better sense of if he's open for a more consistent committed connection as you go. You want to get a better sense of his interest outside of his connection with you and understand better why the communication feels so stalled at times and why he at times feel emotionally distant. Am I picking up on your connection what I can sense so far, (my name)? You don't have to tell me much of that Marshall want to see if I can connect before we begin.
Not sure who Marshall is but that as an opening before i even said my reason for the reading had my jaw dropped. Not sure who Marshall is... he does use speak to text so i figured it was a typo of sorts.
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It feels like (my poi) is a pretty engaging personality but emotionally he felt a bit more reserved and so can come off as a slight closed book and so he's kind of hard at times for you to read and fully understand. You want to know exactly how he feels about you and you want to get a better sense of if he's open for a more consistent committed connection as you go. You want to get a better sense of his interest outside of his connection with you and understand better why the communication feels so stalled at times and why he at times feel emotionally distant. Am I picking up on your connection what I can sense so far, (my name)? You don't have to tell me much of that Marshall want to see if I can connect before we begin.
Not sure who Marshall is but that as an opening before i even said my reason for the reading had my jaw dropped. Not sure who Marshall is... he does use speak to text so i figured it was a typo of sorts.
That’s very, very similar to what he said to me. I will copy mine and post it but I don’t have it with me today.
Wrong name hmmmm could be he copied and pasted someone else’s reading.
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I figured he was telling everyone the same thing and what he told me did not apply to me so I asked for my money back, in response he said he knew he was not connecting but still went ahead! If most people compare what he said, they will see similarities, my reading was about 8 months ago lol
It feels like (my poi) is a pretty engaging personality but emotionally he felt a bit more reserved and so can come off as a slight closed book and so he's kind of hard at times for you to read and fully understand. You want to know exactly how he feels about you and you want to get a better sense of if he's open for a more consistent committed connection as you go. You want to get a better sense of his interest outside of his connection with you and understand better why the communication feels so stalled at times and why he at times feel emotionally distant. Am I picking up on your connection what I can sense so far, (my name)? You don't have to tell me much of that Marshall want to see if I can connect before we begin.
Not sure who Marshall is but that as an opening before i even said my reason for the reading had my jaw dropped. Not sure who Marshall is... he does use speak to text so i figured it was a typo of sorts.
That’s very, very similar to what he said to me. I will copy mine and post it but I don’t have it with me today.
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I am almost afraid now that all the readers that sound so detailed are giving the same info to the clients. I know things can seem kinda similar if many of us are going to find out about a past ex but its a little unnerving if its almost repetitive in what is being said.
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It feels like (my poi) is a pretty engaging personality but emotionally he felt a bit more reserved and so can come off as a slight closed book and so he's kind of hard at times for you to read and fully understand. You want to know exactly how he feels about you and you want to get a better sense of if he's open for a more consistent committed connection as you go. You want to get a better sense of his interest outside of his connection with you and understand better why the communication feels so stalled at times and why he at times feel emotionally distant. Am I picking up on your connection what I can sense so far, (my name)? You don't have to tell me much of that Marshall want to see if I can connect before we begin.
Not sure who Marshall is but that as an opening before i even said my reason for the reading had my jaw dropped. Not sure who Marshall is... he does use speak to text so i figured it was a typo of sorts.
Hahahaha here’s the beginning of my reading:
“XXXXX felt a bit difficult to read which is your concern. you want to get a better sense of how he feels about you and a better understanding of where things can go because his communication at times can feel a bit stalled or stifled. He emotionally sometimes feel a bit reserved and so you don't really fully understand is intentions and what he may want long-term. You also want to get a sense of his interests outside of his connection with you. Now I picked up that XXXXX may have some issues from a past relationship which may be fought through some of this uncertainty and him at the how close to get which may be causing some of this uncertaintanty in his interactions but I couldn't quite tell so I'll have to look deeper. He felt like he can be quite charming and engaging but is communication is a bit inconsistent and this is what we have to look into to get a be tter understanding of where things can go. Am I picking up on your situation for what I can sense the? You don't have to tell me much about more so want to see if I can connect before we begin.“
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Sounds like a cold reader in my opninion
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I figured he was telling everyone the same thing and what he told me did not apply to me so I asked for my money back, in response he said he knew he was not connecting but still went ahead! If most people compare what he said, they will see similarities, my reading was about 8 months ago lol
WTF is that shit. He knew he wasn't connecting but still went ahead???????
For some reason I was always inclined to believe some readers didn't know they weren't connecting, so they DO KNOW. This is even worse because some people don't ask for refunds and he would have just kept the money. Just H O R R I B L E.
He was always awful to me, generic fluff, but some people appear to be having success.
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Yea he’s a definite cold reader now that I see your readings were almost identical to mine.
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It feels like (my poi) is a pretty engaging personality but emotionally he felt a bit more reserved and so can come off as a slight closed book and so he's kind of hard at times for you to read and fully understand. You want to know exactly how he feels about you and you want to get a better sense of if he's open for a more consistent committed connection as you go. You want to get a better sense of his interest outside of his connection with you and understand better why the communication feels so stalled at times and why he at times feel emotionally distant. Am I picking up on your connection what I can sense so far, (my name)? You don't have to tell me much of that Marshall want to see if I can connect before we begin.
Not sure who Marshall is but that as an opening before i even said my reason for the reading had my jaw dropped. Not sure who Marshall is... he does use speak to text so i figured it was a typo of sorts.
I'm curious now. What exactly did you say to him? I'm starting to believe he isn't psychic at all. Love (relationships, etc) is the number 1 thing people call about, especially women. Did you ask a question and he probably got a boatload out of that? I find it bizarre that from your pov he nailed your POIs personality and when I read it, it was general as hell. No specifics to your situation at all, even though I don't know your situation. I just find it bizarre.
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This is exactly what i said...
Hi. I was hoping you could give me some guidance on the situation with (poi).
So i didn't mention what our relationship was.
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Yea he’s a definite cold reader now that I see your readings were almost identical to mine.
That was just the “intro”.... makes me wonder what novel he gives everyone else!!
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This was a portion of my reading...
well, I want my words to be clear but also at the same time I don't want them to confuse you that what I'm sensing is any more negative than it have to be but I do you want to be as honest as I can about what I'm picking up. The connection between you and (POI) felt weakened over time. I'm not very good with time tables because I'm at more of an empath and I am anything else that I can tell that the connection just felt less open, a bit more stalled and a bit more distant over the last few weeks to maybe two months. Again, not great with times so I am Best to understand what I'm sensing a timetable goes and can't really do a good job of it. LOL!
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This is exactly what i said...
Hi. I was hoping you could give me some guidance on the situation with (poi).
So i didn't mention what our relationship was.
Thanks, guess I was wrong. I only wondered.
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So you weren't given similar line? (Fingers crossed)
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This is my introduction lol, please guys I do this to help you out
First, thank you so much for coming to me and trying to pop on. I greatly appreciate the time you put into connecting with me and for the trust you are placing in me. I hope to be always worthy of that trust through my efforts. You are concerned about his feelings and intentions because he feel a bit emotionally uncertain to you, a bit more distant and not quite as consistent as you'd like. there is some concern in you about his interest outside the connection but mostly you want to know how he sees things and if things can become more consistent over time. am I picking up on your situation, XXXXXX (my name ) Tellmewhy, from what I am seeing? you don't have to tell me much as I more so want to be sure I can connect before I send for charge and look into his feelings.
I am almost afraid now that all the readers that sound so detailed are giving the same info to the clients. I know things can seem kinda similar if many of us are going to find out about a past ex but its a little unnerving if its almost repetitive in what is being said.
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OMG can we all please just compare our readings with this guy and not just the intro??
I’m like wtf lol
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Well it's very, very similar but it's not exact. It's just the intro.
Plus, it's easy to have stock lines ready to copy/paste to the client.
I use to have my questions ready for readers with bitwine because it is chat and I would just copy and paste to save time.
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This was a portion of my reading...
well, I want my words to be clear but also at the same time I don't want them to confuse you that what I'm sensing is any more negative than it have to be but I do you want to be as honest as I can about what I'm picking up. The connection between you and (POI) felt weakened over time. I'm not very good with time tables because I'm at more of an empath and I am anything else that I can tell that the connection just felt less open, a bit more stalled and a bit more distant over the last few weeks to maybe two months. Again, not great with times so I am Best to understand what I'm sensing a timetable goes and can't really do a good job of it. LOL!
That was a portion of my reading after i paid.
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Here is a bit more so you guys can compare if he is doing a cut and past job. He told me he does speak to text to save time which i get because i do to.
Generally, what I sense is that you both still have a connection and it's pretty clear to me that the connection is still viable and still Progressive enough to say it is not very likely that you and (poi) won't have any communication. I actually think it's not likely at all that you will not hear from him again but my concern is how long it may take for you to hear from him because there was a small emotional wall around him that seem to keep him at Bay. I sensed resentment and him towards his connection with you because he felt uncomfortable with a sense of obligation who was the connection which made him feel as though he would lose some sort of autonomy in his life. Basically, I think what I am picking up is a fear of commitment but I couldn't tell if the fear of commitment was due to a fear of loss of autonomy or a fear of a loss of control. They are very closely related and they both seem to be something he may have an issue with.
This honestly sounds accurate for my situation but hoping we aren't all getting feed the same lines.
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I didn't want to be the Debby Downer always posting about fake psychics, I honestly don't feel anything real about Mondez Durden's reading. Sorry, most of these readers are fake taking advantage of innocent & broken hearted. Some of the reviewers will get so defensive because the reader told them what they wanted to hear, few months later, they sometimes realize they were wrong to defend the reader but won't come back on the board to let everyone know.
I have read with over 500 psychics, uncountable on keen to know most of them are not real, I still can't spot all of them out because some have fine-tuned their fraudulent ways but I do spot some of the good ones and I'd say there are only a handful
If you want a complete post, PM me
I tried him twice. First time, I was really impressed....second time, not so much. I felt a lot of what he said could apply to anyone. General stuff that is worded in a way to sound specific m if that makes sense. He also missed something huge about the poi at the time.
He’s intelligent and knows how to word things in a way that sounds impressive, but after I reread the transcript a few times, I realized it could apply to anyone that is dealing with a bad period in their relationship.
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Were there anyones that were accurate for you?
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I didn't want to be the Debby Downer always posting about fake psychics, I honestly don't feel anything real about Mondez Durden's reading. Sorry, most of these readers are fake taking advantage of innocent & broken hearted. Some of the reviewers will get so defensive because the reader told them what they wanted to hear, few months later, they sometimes realize they were wrong to defend the reader but won't come back on the board to let everyone know.
I have read with over 500 psychics, uncountable on keen to know most of them are not real, I still can't spot all of them out because some have fine-tuned their fraudulent ways but I do spot some of the good ones and I'd say there are only a handful
If you want a complete post, PM me
I tried him twice. First time, I was really impressed....second time, not so much. I felt a lot of what he said could apply to anyone. General stuff that is worded in a way to sound specific m if that makes sense. He also missed something huge about the poi at the time.
He’s intelligent and knows how to word things in a way that sounds impressive, but after I reread the transcript a few times, I realized it could apply to anyone that is dealing with a bad period in their relationship.
There are definitely some craazzyy defensive reviewers of readers on here..
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Among all the readers:
Consistently accurate
Yona _ Almost everything happens but really late since 2014
Jenny Alton _ does not read anymore
Groupset 2
Aries Intuition _ I use her to validate if yona's prediction will happen in that year ( general reading are best) reading since 2011
Cookie _ Hit or miss sometimes good others horrible
Uli _ She amazed me in her reading - Too expensive
Others I Like that have a gift
Barbara4846 _ general
QofC- hit or miss
Recently like but have to wait
Drusilla, I like
Rest of CP & PS junk
So this is my shortlist
Were there anyones that were accurate for you?
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Here is a bit more so you guys can compare if he is doing a cut and past job. He told me he does speak to text to save time which i get because i do to.
Generally, what I sense is that you both still have a connection and it's pretty clear to me that the connection is still viable and still Progressive enough to say it is not very likely that you and (poi) won't have any communication. I actually think it's not likely at all that you will not hear from him again but my concern is how long it may take for you to hear from him because there was a small emotional wall around him that seem to keep him at Bay. I sensed resentment and him towards his connection with you because he felt uncomfortable with a sense of obligation who was the connection which made him feel as though he would lose some sort of autonomy in his life. Basically, I think what I am picking up is a fear of commitment but I couldn't tell if the fear of commitment was due to a fear of loss of autonomy or a fear of a loss of control. They are very closely related and they both seem to be something he may have an issue with.
This honestly sounds accurate for my situation but hoping we aren't all getting feed the same lines.
OMG!!!! Almost exactly like mine “resentment” “obligation” “fear of commitment” “loss of control”
I almost want to just paste mine so you guys can see how almost exact that was to mine!!
And that’s because what he said APPLIES TO EVERYONE we’re dealing with when we call these people!!
Feel free to PM me if you want to compare!
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Oh geez. Another forum I'm on did this once and a lot of people went back to the reader to confront him and ask for refunds. He obliged in the beginning but then a lot of people wanted their money back, he refused saying people go through similar things so the content and context was very similar. A lot of people weren't happy about that and at one point the forum owner was against everyone posting their readings, but she flipped to being against him when sooooooooo many members came forward. Some people were still defending the reader, even after all the similar (almost word for word) readings showed up.
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If my reading was more recent, I would ask for a refund. It’s obvious now he’s full of it.
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It's horrible that we can't put any trust in any readers even the ones that have been spoken highly of because then we find these things out. I personally don't like the phone chats because i always end up missing something but prefer being able to use the transcript to go over. I'm giving reading a break and if anything that has been predicted unfolds i will make sure to post here.
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I have been there...stay strong. If it’s meant to be it will...no amount of readings will change that.
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You are so right. The only thing its doing is draining my wallet.
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Well, damn, someone isn’t happy with his negative feedback. Look at this message I got:
“people like you disgust me. you take time, a full hour, and get services and don't want to pay. you are a low life jerk who likely always want money back. Readings are for entertainment purposes, idiot, not meant to be perfect and fully correct. You don't get refunds just because you don't like what I say. Was I wrong? no. and you never said I was wrong. l will be sending your transcript to your bank so they KNOW you chose to have a session meaning you don't get a refund as it was not stolen funds. Defraud them if you want but I will let them know you are defrauding them. people like you really make me SICK.”
I sent it to Bitwine and hopefully they refund my money, even though I filed the disputes with PayPal.
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That is too funny the reading wasn't negative just same story told over and over. Smh
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Omg what a jerk!
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Wow. Well let’s be blunt here- this profession of giving strangers forecasts and insight into their private lives is undoubtably the world’s second oldest profession (and we all know what the first one is, and it isn’t known as a magnet for trustworthy, sterling characters!) No proven certification, no degree, no rules, no proof they even are who they say they are—so no surprise it’s a wild west roll of the dice when we engage their services. Unless they publish their actual name or at the least, their actual photo —(which is one reason I do give some credit to California Psychics, they require an actual pic of every advisor—) we are entrusting these complete unknowns who have absolutely zero interest in us to demonstrate a molecule of ethical integrity.
I bet easily 75% are complete phonies. It’s a gypsy trade— ANYBODY can step in and score a fortune.
The easy money naturally attracts thieves.
There ARE real ones. But they are scattered far and few.
This Mondez person seemed bogus from the get go to me— I never got the hype— seemed like typical cosmic blather, easy to fake? Unless I’m wrong, and he actually did get veritable details?
But that said, I’d never ask for a refund for something as ethereal and quixotic as a “psychic reading”.
Occasionally we encounter a person with a highly developed, repeatable and demonstrable pineal ability to astonishingly access details by name, description etc, that defy our 3D logic and senses.
And even more inexplicably, some can actually ‘see’ through the boundaries of time, but it’s RARE.
Because even for those rock stars, it’s an on/off thing—psychic ability on demand is not a tangibly settled “science”—it’s NOT—it’s quicksilver, fluid and mysterious.
I do not penalize them with a poor review—unless they are obviously running a BS complete scam, in which case they need to be called out to the consuming public.
That dude's reaction was a full frontal attack on you, his customer. It smacks of him being a fake.
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Marciamia you read with him for an hour!?! My second reading with him I only spent 20 and I knew he was full of it. I can’t even imagine him making crap up for an hour geez.
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I was always waiting for the truth about this man to come out, gosh I hated myself for identifying the fraudulent psychic.
”everyday for the thief, one day for the master ”
Wow. Well let’s be blunt here- this profession of giving strangers forecasts and insight into their private lives is undoubtably the world’s second oldest profession (and we all know what the first one is, and it isn’t known as a magnet for trustworthy, sterling characters!) No proven certification, no degree, no rules, no proof they even are who they say they are—so no surprise it’s a wild west roll of the dice when we engage their services. Unless they publish their actual name or at the least, their actual photo —(which is one reason I do give some credit to California Psychics, they require an actual pic of every advisor—) we are entrusting these complete unknowns who have absolutely zero interest in us to demonstrate a molecule of ethical integrity.
I bet easily 75% are complete phonies. It’s a gypsy trade— ANYBODY can step in and score a fortune.
The easy money naturally attracts thieves.
There ARE real ones. But they are scattered far and few.
This Mondez person seemed bogus from the get go to me— I never got the hype— seemed like typical cosmic blather, easy to fake? Unless I’m wrong, and he actually did get veritable details?
But that said, I’d never ask for a refund for something as ethereal and quixotic as a “psychic reading”.
Occasionally we encounter a person with a highly developed, repeatable and demonstrable pineal ability to astonishingly access details by name, description etc, that defy our 3D logic and senses.
And even more inexplicably, some can actually ‘see’ through the boundaries of time, but it’s RARE.
Because even for those rock stars, it’s an on/off thing—psychic ability on demand is not a tangibly settled “science”—it’s NOT—it’s quicksilver, fluid and mysterious.
I do not penalize them with a poor review—unless they are obviously running a BS complete scam, in which case they need to be called out to the consuming public.
That dude's reaction was a full frontal attack on you, his customer. It smacks of him being a fake.
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Marciamia you read with him for an hour!?! My second reading with him I only spent 20 and I knew he was full of it. I can’t even imagine him making crap up for an hour geez.
No, not even close. He’s just being bitter. But he wrote freakin novel after novel which took forever to read!
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Here is the intro paragraph on my read with him (first one last year):
"**** has a very engaging energy. it almost felt like being surrounded by warmth. he felt intelligent, engaging and charming. I saw some emotional reservation in him so he may not be the simplest book to read but he felt like a decent and good guy. I saw someone who seemed to feel a small, very small, bit of uncertainty in what he may want but that was due to some past issues he's had. he overall felt pretty certain of himself though. the connection with you both felt established but not yet very well defined or deep which is why you are trying to see how he feels about you. am I picking up on the situation from what I am seeing? you don't have to tell me much as I more so want to see if I can connect before we begin. "
Well, I hope that others looking to read with him will find this forum and save their money!
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Marciamia you read with him for an hour!?! My second reading with him I only spent 20 and I knew he was full of it. I can’t even imagine him making crap up for an hour geez.
No, not even close. He’s just being bitter. But he wrote freakin novel after novel which took forever to read!
LOL yea long winded to say the least. He says a whole lot of nothing worded different ways that make it seem he's being specific. UGH. so that's two Bitwine readers outed this past week, Candybarr (UGH) and now this guy.
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This guy does NOT take the truth lightly and has completely lost it. I reported him to Bitwine for full on harassment now:
“Jeez. You don't know how this works to you. You have to basically tell your credit card company or bank or whoever you used to pay for this payment that you were defrosted and that someone stole that money from you. They will then request that money back from my bank which allows me to dispute it. I will then send them the transcripts to let them know that not only did you choose to have the session which is all I need to prove that the funds were not stolen but I now have a correspondence with you proving that you shows that have that session. Sessions are for entertainment purposes. And even if they weren't, you don't hire a plumber and not charge him just because he can't fix your pipe when he comes to your house. You're paying him for his time. The fact that you feel comfortable taking an hour of my time on a holiday and then making all that stuff up about me says a lot more about you than it does me. You are a fraud. And I will let whoever you use the pay your bills know you are fraud. Thank you for the back-and-forth emails which I will be also using as proof that you knowingly pay for those sessions. Again, people like you disgust me.”
I love how he keeps saying he can contact my bank when you use PayPal *eyeroll* and that fact that I made everything all up lol. This dude’s in complete denial!! Lol.
Bitwine asked for the screenshots of his messages because they said he violated their TOS (which is obvious). They also said they reached out to him to give me a refund on my behalf. I asked what would be my next course of action if he refuses to give me a refund and they said to escalate the dispute with PayPal. What a nightmare!
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Plus that Milas one too.
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well there you have it..he even admits they are for entertainment only. Not to be taken seriously. What a fraud.
I do think that there are some gifted psychics but seriously a needle in a haystack.
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wowow i'm appalled at the way he handled the situation. absolutely disgusting. sorry marciamia that youre going through this.
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wowow i'm appalled at the way he handled the situation. absolutely disgusting. sorry marciamia that youre going through this.
Ehh, he doesn’t affect me. This is pretty comical that some “adult” is acting like a complete imbecile. I’m just glad I was able to be the one to oust him.
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What TOS did he violate and why does he keep referring to you as a fraud? You called him.
That entire dispute would be through PayPal. PayPal does not disclose bankers that I'm aware of.
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What TOS did he violate and why does he keep referring to you as a fraud? You called him.
That entire dispute would be through PayPal. PayPal does not disclose bankers that I'm aware of.
i was thinking the same thing.
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Thank f I never tried him, honestly I was close to at one point.
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I got this when I had a reading with him a while back ;
He's a bit unsure of where he is in his life at the moment which causes small shifts in his engagment making his comunication at times strained and even distant. you are concerned about his stress and if he can be more engaged. You want to get a more deep and nuanced understanding of his feelings or you and his motivations for engaging you as you are trying to see what your value is to him and if he will be more intergrated in your life, opening himself up more to including you in his, as things progress. will things stall out? I also sensed the faintest wonder about his interest outside the relationship and this felt connected to a past relationship of his so maybe an ex he's had. usually bad break ups create the sort of uncertainty I see in relationships even when it is clear there is genuine interest and feelings. do you feel I am connecting from what I sense? you don't have to tell me much as I more so want to see if I can connect before we begin.
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Maybe I'm very wrong, but he sounds rather generic to me as an outsider looking in..
When you're wrapped up in all the readings, you think "fuck yeah! This reader is being so specific to my situation", but as I look back, most were soo generic. I mean thinking back to an ex, I think about my exes when when I've moved on from them a very long time ago. When you have had such a strong bond once with someone as I said before, who knows all of your secrets and has been intimate with you - you generally do look back, and who doesn't compare relationships ? You either think, "wow - my last ex was better than my now partner in A, B and C ways", or the opposite and how lucky and how much better off you are.
Even Zadalia etc empaths have validated much better.
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Maybe I'm very wrong, but he sounds rather generic to me as an outsider looking in..
When you're wrapped up in all the readings, you think "fuck yeah! This reader is being so specific to my situation", but as I look back, most were soo generic. I mean thinking back to an ex, I think about my exes when when I've moved on from them a very long time ago. When you have had such a strong bond once with someone as I said before, who knows all of your secrets and has been intimate with you - you generally do look back, and who doesn't compare relationships ? You either think, "wow - my last ex was better than my now partner in A, B and C ways", or the opposite and how lucky and how much better off you are.
Even Zadalia etc empaths have validated much better.
YES! that has happened with 99% of the readings I've gotten, when I looked back, I would be like wtf was I so impressed with.
I could probably do a "reading" for the majority of people that call in...."is he being distant right now?" "I sense stress around him" "he is afraid of his feelings but will come forward"..Blah blah.
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What TOS did he violate and why does he keep referring to you as a fraud? You called him.
That entire dispute would be through PayPal. PayPal does not disclose bankers that I'm aware of.
i was thinking the same thing.
Yea I have no idea about the TOS. The Bitwine rep emailed me that he did. And PayPal doesn’t disclose any information. I’m not sure what planet he’s on right now.
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Maybe I'm very wrong, but he sounds rather generic to me as an outsider looking in..
When you're wrapped up in all the readings, you think "fuck yeah! This reader is being so specific to my situation", but as I look back, most were soo generic. I mean thinking back to an ex, I think about my exes when when I've moved on from them a very long time ago. When you have had such a strong bond once with someone as I said before, who knows all of your secrets and has been intimate with you - you generally do look back, and who doesn't compare relationships ? You either think, "wow - my last ex was better than my now partner in A, B and C ways", or the opposite and how lucky and how much better off you are.
Even Zadalia etc empaths have validated much better.
YES! that has happened with 99% of the readings I've gotten, when I looked back, I would be like wtf was I so impressed with.
I could probably do a "reading" for the majority of people that call in...."is he being distant right now?" "I sense stress around him" "he is afraid of his feelings but will come forward"..Blah blah.
Yeah I don't know how these readers live with themselves..
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Yeah I don't know how these readers live with themselves..
Because they still have a large support group even when they are frauds. Look at Mondez, and the people who jumped on the bandwagon about how good he is and specific and how he has helped their situations. Bad readers are considered good readers because of the clients. Mondez is probably slightly emphatic or intuitive (like many of us are) and his clients blew him up to larger than life. He even believed the hype about himself by increasing his prices because of how much he was led to believe he has helped so many others. It's sad on both ends.
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Bitwine asked for the screenshots of his messages because they said he violated their TOS (which is obvious). They also said they reached out to him to give me a refund on my behalf. I asked what would be my next course of action if he refuses to give me a refund and they said to escalate the dispute with PayPal. What a nightmare!
Wow...I hope this gets sorted out. Paypal has been good for me with refunds so they should take care of it. Sorry this guy is being such a jerk to you.
Apparently according to Paypal they don’t cover “items not as described” for disputes, yet it’s an option??
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Wow.. I can´t believe I was singing his praises in another thread... I really thought he could pick up well on my situation, but reading what you guys have copied and pasted on here, it is exactly the same as what I got!
I have come to the conclusion that all "psychics" are frauds, and the ones that were correct on people´s situations just made a very lucky guess. I have had a number of readings and none of them have come true... and worse of all I am in debt as I am ashamed to admit I have spent an insane amount of money. I am never getting a reading again. What a waste of time, emotions, energy and most importantly money.
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PayPal will send him a copy of your chargeback request and he gets to respond to them with any supporting documents he has. He's calling it "your bank", but he means PayPal.
Did you fund your PayPal with a checking account or credit card?
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No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal.
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So in other words, he is full of shyte!!
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So in other words, he is full of shyte!!
What they said! Lmao man all these scare tactics are pathetic.
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So in other words, he is full of shyte!!
What they said! Lmao man all these scare tactics are pathetic.
Lol he was just mad because he got called out with negative feedback.
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No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal.
You are misunderstanding what I am saying.
I have had a business account with PayPal since they started and have a merchant account to process cc transactions. I am telling you how, from the merchants side, this works.
The type of dispute you filed determines who handles it. Unauthorized transactions will go to your bank if you used your checking account to fund the transaction and yes, the bank will get a copy of any transcript of your session that he provides. It's not "illegal". It's part of the dispute process. Be very careful about saying something is unauthorized. There are ways a merchant can nail you for lying about this. If you used a PP account with available cash funds in it, it will stay internally with PP. Chargebacks go to the credit card issuer if you funded the transaction using a credit card issued by anyone other than a PayPal credit card, so the transcript would go to them as part of the chargeback dispute package that he/Bitwine will be offered the opportunity to provide. Not received/not as described disputes are handled in-house by PayPal.
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No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal.
You are misunderstanding what I am saying.
I have had a business account with PayPal since they started and have a merchant account to process cc transactions. I am telling you how, from the merchants side, this works.
The type of dispute you filed determines who handles it. Unauthorized transactions will go to your bank if you used your checking account to fund the transaction and yes, the bank will get a copy of any transcript of your session that he provides. It's not "illegal". It's part of the dispute process. Be very careful about saying something is unauthorized. There are ways a merchant can nail you for lying about this. If you used a PP account with available cash funds in it, it will stay internally with PP. Chargebacks go to the credit card issuer if you funded the transaction using a credit card issued by anyone other than a PayPal credit card, so the transcript would go to them as part of the chargeback dispute package that he/Bitwine will be offered the opportunity to provide. Not received/not as described disputes are handled in-house by PayPal.
Wow. I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I never said I filed it as an unauthorized transaction. I actually said in an earlier post I filed it “not as described.” I know the difference.
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The situation being discussed is unfortunate and Mondez's choice of words to handle the situation are definitely not professional or acceptable.
However...to chime in...my reading was detailed and specific. Giving him credit to only being an empath and not giving out predictions (he still gave me "likeliness" predictions), I felt it was worth my money. My situation and reading doesn't seem to apply or mimic anything that I've seen posted on this thread either.
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Marciamia did you get it resolved yet?
Nope, he’s refusing so I’m waiting to hear back from Bitwine.
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No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal.
You are misunderstanding what I am saying.
I have had a business account with PayPal since they started and have a merchant account to process cc transactions. I am telling you how, from the merchants side, this works.
The type of dispute you filed determines who handles it. Unauthorized transactions will go to your bank if you used your checking account to fund the transaction and yes, the bank will get a copy of any transcript of your session that he provides. It's not "illegal". It's part of the dispute process. Be very careful about saying something is unauthorized. There are ways a merchant can nail you for lying about this. If you used a PP account with available cash funds in it, it will stay internally with PP. Chargebacks go to the credit card issuer if you funded the transaction using a credit card issued by anyone other than a PayPal credit card, so the transcript would go to them as part of the chargeback dispute package that he/Bitwine will be offered the opportunity to provide. Not received/not as described disputes are handled in-house by PayPal.
Wow. I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I never said I filed it as an unauthorized transaction. I actually said in an earlier post I filed it “not as described.” I know the difference.
I didn't misunderstand what you wrote.
You said, and I literally quote "No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal."
I took the time to tell you, from a merchants point of view, exactly what he meant by that. You didn't answer my question about how your transaction was funded so I covered all the bases. He's sending the transcript to your bank if that is how it was funded, and it's not "illegal".
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No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal.
You are misunderstanding what I am saying.
I have had a business account with PayPal since they started and have a merchant account to process cc transactions. I am telling you how, from the merchants side, this works.
The type of dispute you filed determines who handles it. Unauthorized transactions will go to your bank if you used your checking account to fund the transaction and yes, the bank will get a copy of any transcript of your session that he provides. It's not "illegal". It's part of the dispute process. Be very careful about saying something is unauthorized. There are ways a merchant can nail you for lying about this. If you used a PP account with available cash funds in it, it will stay internally with PP. Chargebacks go to the credit card issuer if you funded the transaction using a credit card issued by anyone other than a PayPal credit card, so the transcript would go to them as part of the chargeback dispute package that he/Bitwine will be offered the opportunity to provide. Not received/not as described disputes are handled in-house by PayPal.
Wow. I think you misunderstood what I wrote. I never said I filed it as an unauthorized transaction. I actually said in an earlier post I filed it “not as described.” I know the difference.
I didn't misunderstand what you wrote.
You said, and I literally quote "No he literally said to me that he’s going to tell my bank. PayPal won’t disclose who my bank is in a dispute. It’s illegal."
I took the time to tell you, from a merchants point of view, exactly what he meant by that. You didn't answer my question about how your transaction was funded so I covered all the bases. He's sending the transcript to your bank if that is how it was funded, and it's not "illegal".
He knew I filed the dispute “in-house” through PayPal as “not as described” when he threatened me. That’s why I received the message I did from him. PayPal isn’t going to disclose my bank information to him based on how I filed. THAT would be illegal.
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I have a feeling pretty soon Paypal won't be working with Bitwine. There have been lots of scamming on that site and no one is putting up with it. I'm sure you will get your funds back. He would have to justify that he is right.
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PayPal denied my claim, so I reached out to Bitwine again and the rep said they’ll reach out to him again to ask for a refund.
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Update: I got my refund.
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congrats !!
Update: I got my refund.
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Update: I got my refund.
I’m so glad !!!
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Update: I got my refund.
Woo hoo score for the good guys!!! So happy for you
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PayPal denied my claim, so I reached out to Bitwine again and the rep said they’ll reach out to him again to ask for a refund.
It seemed like a real tug of war.
What reasoning did PayPal give for denying your claim and what reason did Bitwine give for allowing the refund?
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PayPal denied my claim, so I reached out to Bitwine again and the rep said they’ll reach out to him again to ask for a refund.
It seemed like a real tug of war.
What reasoning did PayPal give for denying your claim and what reason did Bitwine give for allowing the refund?
This is what they sent me (mind you, I filed as “not as described” so I don’t see how they came up with this decision):
“We have reviewed this transaction(s) and are denying your case(s). This decision was made because our records show that the item or service associated with this transaction was delivered to you.”
No where did I say I never received anything lol.
As far as what Bitwine said, I have no idea. The rep just said she was going to reach out to him again and that was at the beginning of the month.
EDIT: just received the following email from Bitwine:
“Hello, I wanted to touch base and advise that the client has provided the refund.
Have a great day!”
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Just as a follow up...while it seemed like a nice reading, he ended up being very wrong. Told me my POI wasn't interested in contacting me or reconnecting. I was contacted and we got back together a week later.
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Just as a follow up...while it seemed like a nice reading, he ended up being very wrong. Told me my POI wasn't interested in contacting me or reconnecting. I was contacted and we got back together a week later.
So glad things worked out for you. I was always very leary about his readings. 🤔
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it's funny how he was exposed on here..he is one of those ones that says a whole lot of nothing that could apply to anyone.
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Yep, that was me 🙋🏽♀️ Steer clear of this guy. I was FINALLY able to get my money back after going back and forth with the rep from Bitwine. He would tell them he sent the refund, then they’d email me saying he did, but then I’d take screenshot after screenshot saying “No, look, he’s lying” and they’d be like “oh you’re correct. I’ll reach back out to the advisor again.” Then he would only send a partial refund. Ugh, it was a mess. It took him 3 months to comply to Bitwine’s request.
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Gees what a mess. Glad you stuck to it and got back you cash. 👍
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He is shady indeed, he tried it on me and told him his assumptions were way different than reality then he informed me that he may not be connecting, when I tried asking for my money back he gave me the run around, eventually PayPal refunded based on our conversation
This was a long time ago! He’s fake and shady , stay away
Yep, that was me 🙋🏽♀️ Steer clear of this guy. I was FINALLY able to get my money back after going back and forth with the rep from Bitwine. He would tell them he sent the refund, then they’d email me saying he did, but then I’d take screenshot after screenshot saying “No, look, he’s lying” and they’d be like “oh you’re correct. I’ll reach back out to the advisor again.” Then he would only send a partial refund. Ugh, it was a mess. It took him 3 months to comply to Bitwine’s request.
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ugh im just finding this thread, im disapponted
"overall, your connection still felt somewhat stalled. I remember you coming to me because the connection was stalled before and it still felt that way. I will say that the connection is still rather stable considering the back of the store which is a sign that you both still have feelings for each other and still think of each other. It almost felt as though you may have had some communication. So you want to get a better understanding of how he feels about you still. You want to see if things are going to develop where communication can become a little bit more back and forth and more stable. I also picked up some uncertainty you about adventurous and does he have an interest outside of the relationship now that things have been a bit off lately. More than anything you want to just understand where this connection recover and if so can you get back to where you would like to be. Am I picking up your situation from what I could see? You have to tell me much. I'm going to want to see if I can connect before you begin."
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Do a charge back to your card !
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I was so close to trying this reader a while back and glad I didn't.
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Yep, that was me 🙋🏽♀️ Steer clear of this guy. I was FINALLY able to get my money back after going back and forth with the rep from Bitwine. He would tell them he sent the refund, then they’d email me saying he did, but then I’d take screenshot after screenshot saying “No, look, he’s lying” and they’d be like “oh you’re correct. I’ll reach back out to the advisor again.” Then he would only send a partial refund. Ugh, it was a mess. It took him 3 months to comply to Bitwine’s request.
Wow what a bastard ....another one who was all wrong for me in my last relationship almost a year ago but he makes u think he’s a mind reader lol bogus nonsense
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This may be a popular opinion but I think he is real.... even he is fake then he may be really really really good at faking it