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jhuskindle:
I definitely don’t believe in free will, even scientifically a decision is influenced and decided by childhood experience, and environment and more. I don’t see any of that as free.

I also don’t believe in law of attraction, that’s a method humans use to feel in control of the fact crap happens. It must be pre written, in my opinion, but that won’t stop the fact no matter if I had used the law perfectly to the t, I would not have been able to find a serious romantic partner until 2020, which is still the universe plan, and still planning out despite my best efforts to prove that I can change that by dating and socializing lol

Too bad, i was unable to bring in love, yet even in my darkest days I bring in other forms of abundance. No matter what I believe. It was written. I haven’t read all the comments yet I hope this explains things.

jhuskindle:

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--- Quote from: candiednut on December 24, 2018, 02:50:10 AM ---You are not understanding me or this thread so I will stop after this post. I fail to see how your above post contradicts with my beliefs? When did I say you have to have emotions when thinking about past lives or that you have to be conscious of your past? Most people aren't that's why they are manifesting a crap life. I said many times that 90% of manifestations are unconscious (aka not aware of). And your comment about underlying beliefs driving our choices is exactly what LOA is lol, and releasing resistance is changing those beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs and I am to mine, but please read others' posts carefully to make sure you understand them before commenting. Good luck to you

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I just need people who believe in loa to realize it’s not a law, it might work for them but 50% or more either don’t use it don’t believe in it or get abundance while negative. For me it’s a victim blaming tactic. You manifested your bad life? Are you joking? So my sister manifested 4 miscarriages because she didn’t believe it strong enough? No, I’m pretty sure she was positive she was having a baby. Loa is bullshit. She wasn’t meant to have kids with that guy, that was written, again, loa had nothing to do with it, she didn’t even think of miscarriage as a possibility. Loa would blame her.  So yeah no one is disrespecting you, but you need to hear the other side.

I don't need to understand you to comment. I don't believe in LOA. I speak out of my own beliefs and experiences and I have a different perspective than you have. I don't see what the problem is.

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jhuskindle:

--- Quote from: candiednut on December 25, 2018, 01:59:12 AM ---No, not "blame", just taking responsibility. Don't put words in my mouth. And I never said you need to believe LOA to manifest...again don't put words in my mouth. You don't need to believe gravity for it to be real. Sometimes not believing or being negative actually makes you a better manifester as I have said before too. Go be triggered somewhere else, you are at the wrong place.

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So here you say being negative might help manifest that goes against the concept of loa... I wasn’t insulting you I’m just making a case for loa being bs. Some people call it luck of the draw I’m one of the few who believe it’s pre written. Either way negates the concept of loa.

Dreamer23:

--- Quote from: candiednut on December 25, 2018, 06:47:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: jhuskindle on December 25, 2018, 06:10:49 AM ---
--- Quote from: candiednut on December 25, 2018, 01:59:12 AM ---No, not "blame", just taking responsibility. Don't put words in my mouth. And I never said you need to believe LOA to manifest...again don't put words in my mouth. You don't need to believe gravity for it to be real. Sometimes not believing or being negative actually makes you a better manifester as I have said before too. Go be triggered somewhere else, you are at the wrong place.

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So here you say being negative might help manifest that goes against the concept of loa... I wasn’t insulting you I’m just making a case for loa being bs. Some people call it luck of the draw I’m one of the few who believe it’s pre written. Either way negates the concept of loa.

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If you read my post you'd understand why I said that. LOA is not about positive thinking, positive thinking (at least in the way most people do it) does not work because it is denial. Being negative releases resistance to the outcome which sometimes can help you manifest.

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I agree with this so much. I never understood why being negative helps you manifest, because I've seen that it does, in my life, I have had times when I thought something wouldn't happen and it did and this explanation makes sense. Thank you candiednut.

I also have seen from my experience, that being neutral and basically not caring too much about how or when something will manifest brings things to me. So let's say I want something specific and I have a thought that is like "oh how I wish I had this" and then I don't think about it and I am relaxed and don't even care if or how it happens. Then it usually happens.

HornetKick:
Yea many LOA criteria is based off the 'stay positive' bs and I found it both impossible and unrealistic.

I've talked to many readers about it and even they don't get it at times. A few have even said to me to stay positive and I'm always like, I'll just stay a realist. Overly positive people make me sick because I know they are lying to themselves and I avoid them like the plague. Just annoying. When they don't get what they want, I chime in, what happened to your positivity?

Being negative decreases the energy behind something you want very badly. It actually helps with manifestation and brings it closer to you. I no longer even think of it as being negative. It's just the opposite extreme of energy. People understand it when 'negative' is used. The negative, is a much better positive than the fake positive, if that makes any sense.

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