Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions > Keen.com
Went on a Keen bender last night
njlady:
--- Quote from: Still tired on October 02, 2017, 08:46:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: peppie on October 02, 2017, 08:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
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I actually don't agree with this. We're adults with free will and free choices. It's Keen's right to take our money if we're willing to spend it. Same thing with cigarettes, alcohol, casinos, etc. We can't blame Keen for our bad spending habits. Really!
Others would argue "why can't I spend as much as I want? it's my money!". Also, $500 is small to some people and very large to others.
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Probably the vast majority of money spent on Keen is on credit cards. That's not the person's own money, it is the bank's money. The credit card companies should be putting spending limits on pay per minute services based on the person's income and credit history. People should not have the right to put whatever they want on credit.
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So you don't pay your credit card bill with "real" money? What does your credit card issuer accept as payment? Monopoly money?
I don't know about you, but when I pay Amex and everyone else every month, real money comes out of my checking account to pay them. Real money that I earned from my real job.
candy1:
--- Quote from: peppie on October 02, 2017, 08:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
--- End quote ---
I actually don't agree with this. We're adults with free will and free choices. It's Keen's right to take our money if we're willing to spend it. Same thing with cigarettes, alcohol, casinos, etc. We can't blame Keen for our bad spending habits. Really!
Others would argue "why can't I spend as much as I want? it's my money!". Also, $500 is small to some people and very large to others.
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Totally agree... WE are the ones spending the money. We are the ones with a problem. WE have to hold ourselves accountable. STOP blaming others. IT isn't Keen's fault we run ourselves into debt talking to Psychics. Until we accept our roles and responsibilities and hold ourselves accountable - we won't do anything about it. I'm angry at myself that I have blown SOOOO much money. I am not an "addictive" personality. HOWEVER, I am addicted to psychics. I come from a long history of all sorts of abuse - It is so hard for me to not being in control of everything around me... I miss my POI so much and can't understand why someone would run away from something so amazing (and our relationship really was). I want to know that he is working through the things he needs to work through - I want to know that he will be back. I am slowly learning to keep my trust in God (which is my belief) - as far as my POI - I have done everything I can for him and it really just have to let go and let GOD..... I have added some funds and waiting for a reading with Judi - I have deleted my payment options on keen, so hopefully that will discourage ME from continuing to read....
BUT It isn't up to Keen to stop me... IT is up to ME to stop me!!
peppie:
--- Quote from: peppie on October 02, 2017, 08:56:14 PM ---
--- Quote from: Still tired on October 02, 2017, 08:46:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: peppie on October 02, 2017, 08:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
--- End quote ---
I actually don't agree with this. We're adults with free will and free choices. It's Keen's right to take our money if we're willing to spend it. Same thing with cigarettes, alcohol, casinos, etc. We can't blame Keen for our bad spending habits. Really!
Others would argue "why can't I spend as much as I want? it's my money!". Also, $500 is small to some people and very large to others.
--- End quote ---
Probably the vast majority of money spent on Keen is on credit cards. That's not the person's own money, it is the bank's money. The credit card companies should be putting spending limits on pay per minute services based on the person's income and credit history. People should not have the right to put whatever they want on credit.
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They DO put limits on people's spending habits based upon credit history. That is what a credit limit is for. People SHOULD have the right to spend their money as they wish. We aren't victims nor children. Just because we have been irresponsible doesn't mean somebody should babysit us. That is what is called self-control. If you don't have it, cut up the cards.
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gotta own up and take responsibilities for our own lives. spending excessive money is not the credit card company's fault.
peppie:
--- Quote from: candy1 on October 02, 2017, 09:03:22 PM ---
--- Quote from: peppie on October 02, 2017, 08:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
--- End quote ---
I actually don't agree with this. We're adults with free will and free choices. It's Keen's right to take our money if we're willing to spend it. Same thing with cigarettes, alcohol, casinos, etc. We can't blame Keen for our bad spending habits. Really!
Others would argue "why can't I spend as much as I want? it's my money!". Also, $500 is small to some people and very large to others.
--- End quote ---
Totally agree... WE are the ones spending the money. We are the ones with a problem. WE have to hold ourselves accountable. STOP blaming others. IT isn't Keen's fault we run ourselves into debt talking to Psychics. Until we accept our roles and responsibilities and hold ourselves accountable - we won't do anything about it. I'm angry at myself that I have blown SOOOO much money. I am not an "addictive" personality. HOWEVER, I am addicted to psychics. I come from a long history of all sorts of abuse - It is so hard for me to not being in control of everything around me... I miss my POI so much and can't understand why someone would run away from something so amazing (and our relationship really was). I want to know that he is working through the things he needs to work through - I want to know that he will be back. I am slowly learning to keep my trust in God (which is my belief) - as far as my POI - I have done everything I can for him and it really just have to let go and let GOD..... I have added some funds and waiting for a reading with Judi - I have deleted my payment options on keen, so hopefully that will discourage ME from continuing to read....
BUT It isn't up to Keen to stop me... IT is up to ME to stop me!!
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100% agree.
Universal9:
This psychic line called thecircle.com or what used to be called, had a mandate of $500 or something max per month. That I know because I used to use that service long ago. It is UK based service. Why did they have the mandate? Because they care. They care about the customers, about their spending. They understand that when we are being let down by someone, how it feels, where can will power fly away, and how can that take a toll on our debts because we want to hear something positive from someone during those times.
Like alcohol has an age limit, like marijuana has limitations, so should these addiction-based services have restriction.
Why is it so difficult to understand that keen makes money off of a person's misery, their immediate distress. Otherwise they have no income.
I dont see how I can control credit card's transaction via keen but yes they should have a limit too for such services. Someone has to take charge for these addiction based services, one day it will happen. And trust me, that will be for our best. Much better than realising that we spent say $15000 on keen readings instead of having it in savings!
And for those who want to spend more than $500 per month (and 500 is an arbitrary number), yes they should be allowed but it should not be made easy for them either. Just for example. I am thinking out loud anyways.
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