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Went on a Keen bender last night
peppie:
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--- Quote from: peppie on October 01, 2017, 08:53:51 PM ---i've learned that calling begets calling. period. when you're in that mood and make the first call the others come rolling in after. i wanted to call a regular tonight but i stopped myself because i thought if i make this one call i'll want to make more and it's kind of pointless. no one has really been right anyway. and the more i call the more wrong they get...
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It has only been like that for me when I talked to bad readers...the better ones would give me enough peace of mind to where I wouldn't need to keep calling. Some of my past regulars were really bad readers I just didn't know it yet and they left me feeling unsettled and craving more answers.
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you know what you're right. same for me, too.
i had a reader in the past that would try to make me afraid so i would spend more money. i knew he was doing it but i still spent the money because he was a good reader otherwise and i wanted the answers. that was really... karmically probably really bad for that reader.
Universal9:
I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
peppie:
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
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I actually don't agree with this. We're adults with free will and free choices. It's Keen's right to take our money if we're willing to spend it. Same thing with cigarettes, alcohol, casinos, etc. We can't blame Keen for our bad spending habits. Really!
Others would argue "why can't I spend as much as I want? it's my money!". Also, $500 is small to some people and very large to others.
njlady:
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
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Addiction is a terrible thing but there is no way in Hell that anyone with an ounce of sense in their head would allow the government to dictate how they can spend their money on a legal activity. Do you really not want to have independent control over how, when, where and what you spend your money on?
What's next? Purchases at Macy's are limited to $400 a month, Sephora $350, Vet bills are limited to $200 a month, McDonald's $2,000, and Green Grocer $1.50. Lobbyists would pretty much run the economy on behalf of whatever corporations paid the most.
Get all your card numbers changed and have a trusted friend or family member hold them for you and not allow you access to them unless they are with you. And go to see a therapist to help deal with it and find out why you do it and do the work to stop it. Maybe medication would help. Or learning how to redirect your urges. You can't expect the government to control your spending and blame others for letting you do it. There are ways to overcome this. People will help you.
And it's not like I'm so perfect. I go for years without calling at all or just a couple short calls a year to ask a quick question, and then something that pushes every button I have will happen and I go on a short binge. I did that earlier this year. My last binge was around 2003. I'm not happy with myself when I think about what I spent, but I can handle it financially. That doesn't make it ok with me because I'm disappointed with myself for being out of control. I know where that can lead me.
I used to have a weight problem, a really bad one. I was so out of control it wasn't funny. I was also a binge eater who was so bad that there were times when I would literally drop my grocery bags in the middle of the parking lot, grab a quart of ice cream, rip off the top and literally shove my face in it to eat it. I could eat a dozen donuts in less than a minute. Two large pizzas would take me about 15 minutes. It took a lot of suffering and heartache on my part before I finally confronted my problem and dealt with it, and it didn't get fixed overnight. Now I'm super healthy and a size 00. Sometimes I overindulge a little bit, but it's a normal choice, like a cookie or something. I'm not going into a feeding frenzy like a wild animal and then trying to hide the evidence before anyone finds out any more. I didn't hope that the government would pass a law limiting donut purchases to 2 a week and volunteer to have myself and my spending tracked by my IP address and credit card number.
peppie:
--- Quote from: Still tired on October 02, 2017, 08:46:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: peppie on October 02, 2017, 08:07:45 PM ---
--- Quote from: Universal9 on October 02, 2017, 07:03:13 PM ---I think keen needs to be mandated to allow a person to spend no more than 500 per month. And it should be like they should be able to track this person uniquely by the credit card name he uses and IP address both, not just by user name. Because when I am desperate enough due to bad circumstances, I can even sign up with two different accounts on keen and spend 1000.
I really think there has to be a legal mandate on keen here, it is very important to understand that this can be an addiction for people who are vulnerable enough to depend on psychics at the time of need. And when the dark times hit, we do not understand and will power does not hold strong during those times. It is so important for someone to revolutionize this concept, take keen to court and get this thing mandated. They earn their bread and butter on our miseries!
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I actually don't agree with this. We're adults with free will and free choices. It's Keen's right to take our money if we're willing to spend it. Same thing with cigarettes, alcohol, casinos, etc. We can't blame Keen for our bad spending habits. Really!
Others would argue "why can't I spend as much as I want? it's my money!". Also, $500 is small to some people and very large to others.
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Probably the vast majority of money spent on Keen is on credit cards. That's not the person's own money, it is the bank's money. The credit card companies should be putting spending limits on pay per minute services based on the person's income and credit history. People should not have the right to put whatever they want on credit.
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They DO put limits on people's spending habits based upon credit history. That is what a credit limit is for. People SHOULD have the right to spend their money as they wish. We aren't victims nor children. Just because we have been irresponsible doesn't mean somebody should babysit us. That is what is called self-control. If you don't have it, cut up the cards.
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