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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2019, 12:14:23 PM »
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. There's literally no evidence for Santa, whereas for psychics, there is, albeit, anecdotal. But I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.
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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2019, 12:25:44 PM »
I really find myself wondering how long I would have put up with his crap if I hadn't had any readings on him....I bet a whole lot less time.

OMG. I would have moved on so long ago. Even in those first few months I was just so disgusted with his behavior. I was on the verge of just telling him off. Every instinct I had was telling me to do that. But I made the mistake of telling readers that! And they would say, no don't do that. Give it time, wait and see. He will change. Blah blah blah. They would talk me down and make me feel sorry for him and tell me how he needed healing. I mean, what about me?! I needed healing! They took all the focus off of me and put it on him. What was he doing, thinking, feeling. A good spiritual advisor would never put so much focus on another person in a reading. The main focus should be on the client and what they need for their own growth and healing.

Oh jeez..we must have read with the same readers LOL! 

I had a few (after time went by and I guess they could see how much pain I was in) either tell me to move on (which was a mindf**K too) or to just not overthink and let things play out naturally.. like what?? I've been putting up with his crap for almost two years ..how much longer am I gonna give this time to play out?  Until I'm in a nursing home?   ;D ;D

That's why i respect Magicsong so much..she was point blank..he won't change, and won't make you happy. 

But did I listen, no, I tortured myself for a while longer.  LMAO.
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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2019, 12:28:15 PM »
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistentl y under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

I completely agree:) I think this is one thing you cannot prove under the scientific method, as it's 'floaty' and not as much of a '100% repeatable' thing. You can find trends, but it's very much dependent upon the reader, the client, among other factors. But after you see things happening time and time again, in such a specific way which was foretold, you know they're real.

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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #108 on: January 28, 2019, 12:32:09 PM »
I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..s mall things...in consequenti al in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

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« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2019, 12:34:53 PM »
I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..s mall things...in consequenti al in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #110 on: January 28, 2019, 12:44:38 PM »
I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..s mall things...in consequenti al in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

that's for sure..and like I said previously, even if the big outcome did happen, it wouldn't have been worth the money I spent...and the ups and downs I went through to get there.

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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #111 on: January 28, 2019, 12:45:54 PM »
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistentl y under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

I completely agree:) I think this is one thing you cannot prove under the scientific method, as it's 'floaty' and not as much of a '100% repeatable' thing. You can find trends, but it's very much dependent upon the reader, the client, among other factors. But after you see things happening time and time again, in such a specific way which was foretold, you know they're real.

Thank goodness we agree on something. Lol
I know! Hahahaha! it made me happy lol.

I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..s mall things...in consequenti al in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

that's for sure..and like I said previously, even if the big outcome did happen, it wouldn't have been worth the money I spent...and the ups and downs I went through to get there.

Yes yes. And that is entirely your decision. The amount it's worth to get that confirmatio n on the big outcome. I'm sorry you went through so much :(

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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #112 on: January 28, 2019, 12:46:22 PM »
I really find myself wondering how long I would have put up with his crap if I hadn't had any readings on him....I bet a whole lot less time.

OMG. I would have moved on so long ago. Even in those first few months I was just so disgusted with his behavior. I was on the verge of just telling him off. Every instinct I had was telling me to do that. But I made the mistake of telling readers that! And they would say, no don't do that. Give it time, wait and see. He will change. Blah blah blah. They would talk me down and make me feel sorry for him and tell me how he needed healing. I mean, what about me?! I needed healing! They took all the focus off of me and put it on him. What was he doing, thinking, feeling. A good spiritual advisor would never put so much focus on another person in a reading. The main focus should be on the client and what they need for their own growth and healing.

Oh jeez..we must have read with the same readers LOL! 

I had a few (after time went by and I guess they could see how much pain I was in) either tell me to move on (which was a mindf**K too) or to just not overthink and let things play out naturally.. like what?? I've been putting up with his crap for almost two years ago..how much longer am I gonna give this time to play out?  Until I'm in a nursing home?   ;D ;D

That's why i respect Magicsong so much..she was point blank..he won't change, and won't make you happy. 

But did I listen, no, I tortured myself for a while longer.  LMAO.

There were two male readers who told me from the beginning I was putting too much focus on him...but on the other hand they didn't give me the kind of insight that would have helped me to stop doing that either. They can tell us bluntly but deep down we already know and hearing it point blank doesn't necessarily help. I needed something more to help me move on.

I don't fault any of the readers for not having the deeper insight I really needed - it was complicated and maybe no one could have given that to me. But they delayed me from finding it, by continuing to make predictions that never came to pass, extending timelines and discouragin g me from acting in my own best interest.

I know what you mean, i don't blame the psychics personally. .I blame myself.  And no one, at all, made me call obsessively like I did..that was all me and I can only blame myself.

Got to say, thank God for this forum...it's so nice to have a place to come and have people understand what I went through..It really helps to heal!

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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #113 on: January 28, 2019, 01:03:26 PM »
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistentl y under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

I completely agree:) I think this is one thing you cannot prove under the scientific method, as it's 'floaty' and not as much of a '100% repeatable' thing. You can find trends, but it's very much dependent upon the reader, the client, among other factors. But after you see things happening time and time again, in such a specific way which was foretold, you know they're real.

Thank goodness we agree on something. Lol
I know! Hahahaha! it made me happy lol.

I believe psychic ability exists for sure..there were things they predicted that happened..s mall things...in consequenti al in the long run..and I do believe they can tap into someone's feelings (the talented ones anyway)..however I think they fail at the overall big picture outcomes.  That's why they become so addicting though, because you keep saying, well they said this would happen (for example, he will call at 9PM tomorrow) and he does call...so you have faith the bigger things will come to fruition.  But they rarely do. 

Just my 2cents.

I've had quite a few big outcomes happen as had others. So I guess it just depends on the reader, their skills, and how they connect to their client? But either way, I completely agree! They do exist. If you're not in a financially good place, the addiction could be a terrible one, that's for sure!

that's for sure..and like I said previously, even if the big outcome did happen, it wouldn't have been worth the money I spent...and the ups and downs I went through to get there.

Yes yes. And that is entirely your decision. The amount it's worth to get that confirmatio n on the big outcome. I'm sorry you went through so much :(

It's cool...lear ning process I guess..it's almost as if I was in a trance the whole time I was with him and getting readings on him and now looking back, I'm like wtf??? no stupid guy is worth all that!  But at the time, it was so important to me..

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Re: More and More peoples have move on from psychics reading
« Reply #114 on: January 28, 2019, 01:09:31 PM »
I wouldn't said all psychics are fake, I just don't believe that they exist. There is no hard evidence that they exist, Just from peoples experience. What make it different then peoples who believe in Santa Claus. Jame Randi have come up with the 1 millions psychics challenge, what we learn is that the peoples that take the test always seem to fail and the very popular psychics refused to take the test. My family we grow up believe in those super nature stuff, my family still believe in them. Not me anymore I was a believer then most peoples in here before I get psychics reading after my bad experience with them i just become a non-believer.

Oh my god. Dude. You're comparing Santa to psychics. I get it. But one is real, one isn't. And there is so much proof around here. Anecdotal evidence is evidence. Especially when confirmed time and time again by the experience of others. This isn't just a guessing game. I've given an example above. No way that's just a guess. No way the other things that have been predicted for me are just guesses. Look at Mattie's thread. She gets names from people who have foreign names. Countries. Absolutely no way unless she's psychic. She predicted travel and a bunch of other stuff to specific places in countries, etc. There's so much proof out there. You're just staying pessimistic and avoiding seeing it. There's proof, you just choose not to 'see' it.

There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that psychic ability is real....it's just not the same as being able to replicate those results consistentl y under laboratory conditions. That's why it is not reliable.

Exactly...  it's not tangible or black and white or objective/subjective...it's a little deeper than that!  There's so much more to it!  And maybe were NOT supposed to know what happens in the future and maybe were also not supposed to be tappin ginto others feelings? 

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« Reply #115 on: January 28, 2019, 01:42:34 PM »
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

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« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2019, 05:10:24 PM »
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

Aw, thank you! You too! I think it helps to keep a balanced perspective here, for people who had bad results with readings to post.

No matter how many people have good results, still not everyone is going to have their predictions pan out. No one should feel be left feeling like they are the only one or did something wrong.

I agree. Keep posting Tired. I haven't had anything of substance manifest. I have stopped getting readings after realizing how much pain it has caused me emotionally and financially . I will be the first to tell the world if anyone was right about anything, but so far, nadda.

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« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2019, 05:12:54 PM »
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

Aw, thank you! You too! I think it helps to keep a balanced perspective here, for people who had bad results with readings to post.

No matter how many people have good results, still not everyone is going to have their predictions pan out. No one should feel be left feeling like they are the only one or did something wrong.

I agree. Keep posting Tired. I haven't had anything of substance manifest. I have stopped getting readings after realizing how much pain it has caused me emotionally and financially . I will be the first to tell the world if anyone was right about anything, but so far, nadda.

Just curious how long most of you read without major events coming to pass?

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« Reply #118 on: January 28, 2019, 05:35:35 PM »
Stick around Tired..you have lots of wisdom to share! 

I agree, I hope others never experience what I did either.

Aw, thank you! You too! I think it helps to keep a balanced perspective here, for people who had bad results with readings to post.

No matter how many people have good results, still not everyone is going to have their predictions pan out. No one should feel be left feeling like they are the only one or did something wrong.

I agree. Keep posting Tired. I haven't had anything of substance manifest. I have stopped getting readings after realizing how much pain it has caused me emotionally and financially . I will be the first to tell the world if anyone was right about anything, but so far, nadda.

Just curious how long most of you read without major events coming to pass?

Almost 2 years. Sigh.

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« Reply #119 on: January 29, 2019, 05:35:59 AM »
My journey into this psychic started when I was dumped by POI... Storm Cestavani was giving free psychic reading on MSM website then..  listeners can ask questions via MSM chat ..yep that's how long ago and . that's how I found keen..some of keen readers became my personal friend...ma ybe out of pity....I've never tried storefront readers only keen.

the reading messed with my head, my heart and my financial.. When prediction failed, i was blamed.... perhaps these men are just part of my life journey..on e psychic said... it is lesson to be learnt? Not sure what lesson, who's lesson, mine or his? After all these yesrs, I cannot figure out...

I am now in the acceptance phase in this life journey...m oving on ...who's know what's tomorrow..I will find out each day and deal with it trusting my gut instinct