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So what is it really all about?
ladya:
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it's frustrating when you're a professiona l and have people who spent all of 2 hours looking something up and claim they're experts and argue their point to you. I would never claim to know more than a professiona l in an area im not well versed in. i just find it disrespectf ul. I understand DOC's frustration and its hard to understand unless you experience firsthand. its really common nowadays with the internet esp in healthcare. you dont have to agree with them but do deserve a level of respect and if a person thinks they know more, they def don't. the more intellectua l a person is the less they claim to know or think they know better than someone else. As socrates said "i know that i know nothing"
ladya:
Still tired tried Inboxing you. Isn’t going through. Inbox me
daughterofcups - P:
--- Quote from: ladya on December 07, 2018, 08:05:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: Still tired on December 07, 2018, 07:38:17 PM ---Credenials aren't everything, they only matter as much as the market and customers decide they are worth. If people find more value in videos or articles, that's what they will rely on.
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it's frustrating when you're a professiona l and have people who spent all of 2 hours looking something up and claim they're experts and argue their point to you. I would never claim to know more than a professiona l in an area im not well versed in. i just find it disrespectf ul. I understand DOC's frustration and its hard to understand unless you experience firsthand. its really common nowadays with the internet esp in healthcare. you dont have to agree with them but do deserve a level of respect and if a person thinks they know more, they def don't. the more intellectua l a person is the less they claim to know or think they know better than someone else. As socrates said "i know that i know nothing"
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Wont argue to any of this really. I see both sides of the coin. I dont think im better than anyone, and any therapist that does isnt a therapist and prob has a bunch of issues- also why would you get into a profession where the purpose and basis is being able to empathize with literally every person!! Even situations where i have to work with for example a convicted rapist. Gotta put that stuff aside, they need help too.. I also would never tell angone what to do as a therapist or even give advice. My job isnt to fix people, its to help them develop the tools to make those choices for themselves. A good piece of advice (ha) if youre going to a therapist btw- if they make assumptions without meeting with you for very long, or give you their opinion off the bat (esp without asked) or tell you what to do- that isnt a good therapist lol, i hope that doesnt happen but hey, there are crazies out there im sure.
I think i was just pointing to the “i have no classes or experience in learning psychology at all but i know better than the psychologis ts” attitude. Specificall y the way he explained attachment theory and described several psych theories (incorrectly).
Idk what to say about psychics but this happens in the medical profession all the time- so thanks to the other poster who articulated this much better than me. Theres a reason for unions and licensing.
Its actually funny because generally if i have a client in a therapy session who walks in and acts superior/ condescendi ng my response is to be like “oh? Wow okay tell me more” and i let them talk. Usually people with narcissisti c tendencies do this. But i also sympthize on the other side, because working with the field, half of my frustration is with the system and OTHER people in mental health lol. Never a client.
Ego shouldnt matter at all. Hell ive had jobs with very ill, marginalize d people who yelled “**** you *****!!” 3x a day and id be like “okay well that hurts me To hear but i think you know how to be respectful, so if youre feeling like you can be respectful later feel free to come to the therapy group!!” lol. People with a big ego are not compatible in our world. So its really hard to come by. Part of beinf a therapist requires a temperpant/disposition for that reason.
Usually someone storming out and saying “therapy doesnt work for me i dont need it!” Just has some stuff to deal with i have zero control over, and i know that, and thats ok. but i do my best to get them whatever help they deserve.
Ive noticed this is not present in psychics. Theyre more just people off the street trying to offer counseling. .. which is why it can be so dangerous
daughterofcups - P:
--- Quote from: Dreamer23 on December 07, 2018, 08:03:54 PM ---I don't think therapists should be viewed as people who know more than you or who are smarter than you. They should be seen as allies, helping you figure out how to help yourself. Therapy can be very helpful but you have to trust in the process and trust in the therapist.
It shouldn't be a competition of who is better than who. And yes, most therapists have issues themselves which make them good therapists because they can relate to others.
Like in any profession, there are bad ones out there too.
The most important healing aspect of therapy is the relationshi p you develop with your therapist. Uncondition al positive regard should be something very present in the room, and yes some can be judgmental and act superior. Time to find a different one.
I know people whose lives have changed drastically because of therapy. So, at the end of the day, I think therapists help more than they hurt people.
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Also wanted to add— yes to this! Agree.
Didnt mean to come off like im better or smarter (im not)- most therapists have therapists because they understand the value and importance. Its something i believe everyone deserves. I meant to articulate that people are professiona ls and state licensed for a reason- i dont think i have all the answers but thats the point. Again my job, and any good therapist would tell you, isnt to give answers or offer advice or tell you what to do. Most of the time its me helping a client make their own decisions, learn skills to cope in healthy ways, etc. and the reason our job isnt telling people what to do, or giving opinions, is just that- we dont know your life or experiences better than you do! No one will ever “know” what its like to be you, be we’d like to try to understand and listen.
Anyway. End of rant. But i hope this helps clarify things and highlights the vital differences, and why psychics are dangerous. Also im pretty wholistic and open, so i get the frustration with medical doctors as well. I guess its upsetting to hear someone incorrectly explain a field of study ive dedicated a huge portion of my life to, one which they have no background in. Theres too much of that today.
Dreamer23:
--- Quote from: daughterofcups - P on December 07, 2018, 09:54:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: Dreamer23 on December 07, 2018, 08:03:54 PM ---I don't think therapists should be viewed as people who know more than you or who are smarter than you. They should be seen as allies, helping you figure out how to help yourself. Therapy can be very helpful but you have to trust in the process and trust in the therapist.
It shouldn't be a competition of who is better than who. And yes, most therapists have issues themselves which make them good therapists because they can relate to others.
Like in any profession, there are bad ones out there too.
The most important healing aspect of therapy is the relationshi p you develop with your therapist. Uncondition al positive regard should be something very present in the room, and yes some can be judgmental and act superior. Time to find a different one.
I know people whose lives have changed drastically because of therapy. So, at the end of the day, I think therapists help more than they hurt people.
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Also wanted to add— yes to this! Agree.
Didnt mean to come off like im better or smarter (im not)- most therapists have therapists because they understand the value and importance. Its something i believe everyone deserves. I meant to articulate that people are professiona ls and state licensed for a reason- i dont think i have all the answers but thats the point. Again my job, and any good therapist would tell you, isnt to give answers or offer advice or tell you what to do. Most of the time its me helping a client make their own decisions, learn skills to cope in healthy ways, etc. and the reason our job isnt telling people what to do, or giving opinions, is just that- we dont know your life or experiences better than you do! No one will ever “know” what its like to be you, be we’d like to try to understand and listen.
Anyway. End of rant. But i hope this helps clarify things and highlights the vital differences, and why psychics are dangerous. Also im pretty wholistic and open, so i get the frustration with medical doctors as well. I guess its upsetting to hear someone incorrectly explain a field of study ive dedicated a huge portion of my life to, one which they have no background in. Theres too much of that today.
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Daughterofc ups - it never came across that you insinuated that therapists know better. It's just that some people on this board have this belief that when they go see a therapist, that the therapist will act superior in some way. If they do, then that's not a good therapist. But the good ones are not like that.
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