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Shaman kiri
doubleoh8:
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--- Quote from: Penelope on December 27, 2018, 09:10:14 AM ---I thought I’d give her another try and I am not sure what to make of the second reading. She said “I am questioning if this man is on a sociopath level”. She felt “ZERO” empathy from him. I first read with her in September. At that time, I had to pull back and walk away. My POI was mad so her reading indicated that he’s moved in a different direction. The thing is, my POI could never fully let go, but he won’t step up, so I had to be the one to pull away. He’s been “lurking” so I wanted to get an update on him. Her description of him having no empathy was both absurd and true. My POI admitted that he can’t emphasize with others. He doesn’t know how. But at the same time, he also admitted strong emotional attachments and care for certain people in his life. So, she picked up on one aspect of his personality and said that he’ll never change. I am left feeling that her reading only captured a small part of the big picture. I felt she was able to pick up on specific points and based conclusions off that. I am not saying she is wrong. I am just don’t feel as though she connected with all the other parts. Or if she did, she didn’t think they were relevant.
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If she was a bad reader she would have told you he has feelings for you etc. sounds like he might be a narcissist, you may want to look up YouTube videos about them and see if it fits the pattern. All bad readers would never have said he doesn’t have empathy, they would have told you the opposite. I know it’s hard to hear but it sounds like she was closer than most if he has already told you he lacks empathy.
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I agree. That sounds pretty specific to me honestly, as to why she ultimately sees you guys going in opposite direction. I find her to be great at outcomes especially if they are shown very clear to her, even if the person may not want to believe it. I didn't believe it either at first when she gave me a negative reading on my other POI whom I thought I was going to have this perfect relationship with. While she may not mention other factors that we know about our situation (I don't know if it's because she cant see it or because she feels it's not relevant/significant like you said) and one might think that it is because she isn't fully "connected," or that she is assuming based on minor details she gets...But after reading with her for awhile, I found that even THOSE other things she didn't mention wouldn't even have mattered because her outcome was right. And the parts that she did pick up on turned out to actually play a role in the outcome. At least she doesn't EMBELLISH and add fluff. That's huge to me. I don't like it when someone makes something more significant than it actually IS and that actually does more damage to our emotions because we find ourselves holding on. Somebody could tell you all they want that this guy has feelings for you, he loves you etc...but if he is not stepping up, then what is the point? Definitely check out some videos on narcissists.
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I have to chime in to say that sociopaths can have affection, even love for specific individuals. This is an awful example, so I apologize in advance, but the mob hitman "the Iceman" was a diagnosed sociopath who didn't have empathy (which made him a great hitman), but very much loved his wife and children. He wasn't a fantastic husband and father (there was abuse), but he did feel love but only for them. And narcissism is completely different from sociopath.
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I'm chiming in too about a few things in this thread:
1. Saying that SK only got a small part of the big picture. In my experience that kind of describes the whole thing with even the best readers. They rarely or never get the whole / big picture and you are left with pieces of a puzzle to assemble. So, if SK was at least accurate on the pieces she handed you, then perhaps consider whether or not they are helpful ones.
2. Respectfully, I don't agree with @jhuskindle's statement that all bad readers would have told you the opposite. I think a LOT of bad readers will skew a reading positive but not all. Some will skew negative or simply make things up that aren't relevant. I think your own intuition may give you some insight into whether or not SK was making those things up.. but I don't think any of us can know for sure what a bad reader will say or not say...
3. Lastly, I agree that narcissist and sociopath are different animals.
And I empathize with how confusing it all is. You may just need to follow your own instincts and see what happens next to, eventually, have the big picture answers you want.
ArcherBullFish:
Hi I'm new here ( waves ). I just had a reading with Shaman Kiri and she was excellent. The first thing she said picked up was the crap communication between he and I. He left last week on a one month job assignment and he's been overwhelmed and stressed. She picked up his terrible time management skills and man oh man she hit that nail. That man and the clock are constantly at war. She also picked up that I can feel him and how he feels about me and that's true. Picking up on feelings run in my family. Overall the reading was good. I like her. She was honest enough to tell me that she cannot give me a concrete prediction on our long term prospects. I am grateful for that.
flora0250:
I very kindly reached out to her to chat with her again because of all this great feedback she’s gotten. First she assumed I was requesting free minutes which I wasn’t. She then said that she believed I must have been disappointed with the reading because it was only five minutes. Oh and said she only gives free minutes to those that leave her feedback. I explained to her that I couldn’t leave feedback because I used to do readings myself long ago. Anyway there was an email back and forth with her a bit in which I explained that before making a prediction I was looking for some assurance that she had a connection to me or the situation. Some way to validate that it wasn’t a cold reading. She became quite offended by this and accused me of not being open and that I must be blocked and cynical and that she’s definitely not the reader for me!
So if anyone wants to see the exact message you are welcome to PM me and I will share with you what she wrote to me and what I wrote. But overall I would advise...
Before trusting a readers predictions, you should be able to be reassured as a customer that you’re not being given a cold reading. And the more specifics the reader needs in order to give you a reading the more likely it is to be a cold reading.
I also 100% believe now that either she reads this board, that keen psychics in general do, or that people in some way associated with trying to promote the company do - as well as provide phony posts about recommendations of readers to try to increase their business I am really convinced of this.
Good luck to all - I do not recommend this reader. Not because “we didn’t have a connection” or I’m cynical or not open - but because I really do believe she is someone to be extremely wary of to say the least.
Also, don’t trust everyone’s reviews on here. Even those that appear to be around a long time.
Fidget1028:
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--- Quote from: flora0250 on December 28, 2018, 02:23:03 AM ---I very kindly reached out to her to chat with her again because of all this great feedback she’s gotten. First she assumed I was requesting free minutes which I wasn’t. She then said that she believed I must have been disappointed with the reading because it was only five minutes. Oh and said she only gives free minutes to those that leave her feedback. I explained to her that I couldn’t leave feedback because I used to do readings myself long ago. Anyway there was an email back and forth with her a bit in which I explained that before making a prediction I was looking for some assurance that she had a connection to me or the situation. Some way to validate that it wasn’t a cold reading. She became quite offended by this and accused me of not being open and that I must be blocked and cynical and that she’s definitely not the reader for me!
So if anyone wants to see the exact message you are welcome to PM me and I will share with you what she wrote to me and what I wrote. But overall I would advise...
Before trusting a readers predictions, you should be able to be reassured as a customer that you’re not being given a cold reading. And the more specifics the reader needs in order to give you a reading the more likely it is to be a cold reading.
I also 100% believe now that either she reads this board, that keen psychics in general do, or that people in some way associated with trying to promote the company do - as well as provide phony posts about recommendations of readers to try to increase their business I am really convinced of this.
Good luck to all - I do not recommend this reader. Not because “we didn’t have a connection” or I’m cynical or not open - but because I really do believe she is someone to be extremely wary of to say the least.
Also, don’t trust everyone’s reviews on here. Even those that appear to be around a long time.
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Flora it's very clear that you got a negative reading and instead of accepting it, you're trying your hardest to justify why she's wrong and a scam/unethical reader/cold reader etc.
The vast majority of people leaving reviews for her say she's connected well and has been able to provide very accurate details to prove she's connected.
I see why she's taken offense, you've basically come in and called her a cold reader to her face because you didn't like what you heard.
Not everyone on here reviewing her can be a shill. I know for sure I am not
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I think she's entitled to her opinion based on her experience. She didn't say all reviewers are shills. She said to be wary that some reviewers may be undisclosed readers. And some are. Plenty of readers stalk this forum and don't ever post anything.
Yt5587:
Hey Fidget, have you read with her yet? :)
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