Can psychics TRULY read POI's mind through us?

[dascallie]

I'm new new here--but this has played on my mind a lot as Ive gotten readings.

First I want to say, that 100% I believe telepathy is real--I've had my own spontaneous episodes with it--like many people have--and even major academic institutions have documented it exists--Stanford Research Institute, Princeton, Duke, University of VA, U of Edinburgh to just name a few that have compiled statistical proof that mind reading/telepathy exists.

But what I struggle with, when getting a psychic reading is--how do we know if the psychic is simply mind reading us--because let's face it--in our heads we have most of what they feed back to us about the POI...plus, depending on our emotional state, sometimes we may visualize 'hopeful'...yes he will return/loves/misses us--or fearful...no he will never be back/is with another/has fallen out of love.

I'd love to know other's thoughts about this--and any experiences that incontrovertibly seem to show the psychic is TRULY reading the POI's mind/intentions/wants.

Look forward to your thoughts!

[maroonlight]

I'll tell you straight up, I've read with dozens of Keen and CP readers since the end of 2016, spent 4-5k, and nothing has ever panned out for me. I read with the most recommended readers on 2 different POI's and they got both outcomes completely wrong, and many times the surrounding details too. The whole thing is a complete lie. These people don't have psychic ability. If they did then they likely wouldn't be charging by minute on a hotline either. Anyone can get a psychic hotline job. That's why I'm done reading.

[sawthelight]

Nothing has ever panned out for me either. They do get some things right and I have seen proof of that. But the major outcomes don't happen.

The only way you know for sure if they are reading someone accurately is if that person later confirms what the psychic said about their feelings and/or acts on it and does what the psychic said they would do.

I think they are able to read other people's thoughts and feelings through us to an extent. Sometimes readers have told me things I had no idea about and couldn't have guessed on my own, that I was able to confirm later. So that to me is an example that they are able to read something beyond just my own mind and my own underdstanding of the situation.

Also, often they seem to have no idea what I myself am thinking and feeling about the other person, or about the reading itself. Sometimes my biggest complaint would be that they seem to understand and sympathize with the POI far better than they do with me. This doesn't really make me feel good about the reader, but it shows me that they are not just mind reading me.

However my experience has been that they can get things mixed up, especially when it comes to emotions, and empaths especially seem to "filter" the reading through my own emotions. So like if I was feeling very down about things, the tone of the whole reading would change.

I think the most telltale sign is if the reading flips, like if you call a second time in a different mood and they give you a completely different read. If they are not consistent about outcomes or they tell you everything changed because the other person changed their mind.

I agree!  I had that happen SO many times, especially when I still used keen.  First reading great and on point, second reading total BS and opposite outcome. 

[sawthelight]

I agree!  I had that happen SO many times, especially when I still used keen.  First reading great and on point, second reading total BS and opposite outcome.

Yes exactly! Me too, readings that flip 180 degrees, seemed so accurate the first time then the second time they turn it all around. That is one of the biggest red flags to me.

The ones who are voice sensitive seem to be the worst because if you sound happy they will give positive outcomes. If you sound upset they give negative predictions.

I know, it's extremely frustrating!  Why do you think that happens (they flip it on you)?  I could never figure it out, part of it is definitely the voice thing, like if you call all upset or something, but I remember specifically a few times on chat this happening...and it seemed to happen most often with tarot readings....I can think of at least three on Keen that did this to me and it got me so upset at the time.  It wasn't even like I had given them anything to turn it all around, it was like just checking in for an update stuff too.     

[sawthelight]

I agree!  I had that happen SO many times, especially when I still used keen.  First reading great and on point, second reading total BS and opposite outcome.

Yes exactly! Me too, readings that flip 180 degrees, seemed so accurate the first time then the second time they turn it all around. That is one of the biggest red flags to me.

The ones who are voice sensitive seem to be the worst because if you sound happy they will give positive outcomes. If you sound upset they give negative predictions.

I know, it's extremely frustrating!  Why do you think that happens (they flip it on you)?  I could never figure it out, part of it is definitely the voice thing, like if you call all upset or something, but I remember specifically a few times on chat this happening...and it seemed to happen most often with tarot readings....I can think of at least three on Keen that did this to me and it got me so upset at the time.  It wasn't even like I had given them anything to turn it all around, it was like just checking in for an update stuff too.   

It seems like it has been because of my own feelings and/or how I phrased the question and what my voice sounded like. Or who knows, sometimes it could be because the situation genuinely changed or someone had changed their mind...but in that case I'm like, why didn't they see this to start with? Especially if it was only days or weeks since the last time I called.

Unless there was some major and unusual twist of fate, outcomes just shouldn't change like that, they should be pretty consistent. A real psychic would see ahead of time if things are going to change dramatically. They just aren't precognitive readers or else they don't read the situation deeply enough.

Makes sense.  But I do agree, it's like what were you seeing the first time if you are seeing the complete opposite now.  Just makes you not trust any reading at all.

this one was the worst for me with that:

https://www.keen.com/psychic-readings/psychic-readings/triplemoongoddess/5399799

I mean did a total 180 on me when I read with her for an update long ago.  Be warned, if you still use Keen LOL.

[sawthelight]

Sissie did a flip like that on me recently. Spirit2spirit was the worst, a few years ago. I think she was somewhat accurate on the first reading but a couple of days later, she flipped the entire reading and started saying things about people having evil around them. I thought she had some real ability but her outlook on life probably warped it.

Some people believe we change things moment by moment with our energy. I was into a philosophy like that, but I don't believe that anymore. There are enough examples of genuine psychics predicting things years ahead of time like who the person would marry. I think those types of psychics are rare though.

Yep, rare and probably not on any platform sites LOL.

I don't believe in the changing of outcomes by movement or negative energy or the like either, I think positive thinking is great and helpful for the individual but I don't believe it changes the course of fate or what is meant to happen eventually...JMO of course. 

[scarlora]

I've rarely read with anyone twice, so my readings have never flipped.  The few people i have are consistent, but I'm not going to read with them again until the outcome actually passes.

[sawthelight]

I've rarely read with anyone twice, so my readings have never flipped.  The few people i have are consistent, but I'm not going to read with them again until the outcome actually passes.

that's the smart thing to do...read once, wait and see if it plays out etc...not call back obsessively like I used to.  LOL

I used to call back some of the readers because they would do so amazingly for the first read that I would say, wow, this is my new "go-to"..etc...but then to have them flip on predictions was a huge let down.

[Dreamer23]

I've rarely read with anyone twice, so my readings have never flipped.  The few people i have are consistent, but I'm not going to read with them again until the outcome actually passes.

That's a really good rule! I wish I could go by this rule.

[Dreamer23]

Some people believe we change things moment by moment with our energy. I was into a philosophy like that, but I don't believe that anymore. There are enough examples of genuine psychics predicting things years ahead of time like who the person would marry. I think those types of psychics are rare though.

I've been told this by so many psychics who also work with energy. I used to believe it so much and I used to blame myself for having negative energy, but then I realized that it's not all about that. Some things happen whether you have negative energy or positive energy or whatever. It's not about the energy, it's about what's meant to happen.

I would love to hear about psychics who can predict in the future like that, but I haven't come across such a psychic in the United States. In my birth country, Romania, there are psychics like that who are damn good, who tell you things that will happen to you. But I left my country when I was a kid so I never experienced this myself.

I think those psychics are the real deal, but where do you find one like that?

[candiednut]

Some people believe we change things moment by moment with our energy. I was into a philosophy like that, but I don't believe that anymore. There are enough examples of genuine psychics predicting things years ahead of time like who the person would marry. I think those types of psychics are rare though.

I've been told this by so many psychics who also work with energy. I used to believe it so much and I used to blame myself for having negative energy, but then I realized that it's not all about that. Some things happen whether you have negative energy or positive energy or whatever. It's not about the energy, it's about what's meant to happen.

I would love to hear about psychics who can predict in the future like that, but I haven't come across such a psychic in the United States. In my birth country, Romania, there are psychics like that who are damn good, who tell you things that will happen to you. But I left my country when I was a kid so I never experienced this myself.

I think those psychics are the real deal, but where do you find one like that?

I absolutely agree. I think it's about finding someone who is a master at a particular divination tool...astrology, IChing, etc. Not one of these "psychics" that read about the tarot on wikipedia and calls themselves a tarot reader. Some of these older tools have so much history to them, they are like an art form and takes a lifetime to master.