Total opposite

[Nottakingthebait]

Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given?  Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out". 

Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone.  Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!

This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear.  The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.

[Zee]

Honestly, I don't believe that was anyone's intent.  Place any of our names in Sagitira's story as a substitute, because many of us have been where she was (she and her story was just an example). I was only offering up another alternative as to why opposites manifest based on my experiences due to what has happened to me.

In no way, shape or form could I even imagine swaying anyone to believe in false hope.
We all come upon our own understanding in time, when we're ready.

Happy Friday everyone! 

[Bark angel]

Give over, please.  You know that the essence of the post is to move forward and let things unfold in their own time! 

Did I just read the operative word WAIT? Hhhmmm

Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?

So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.

If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.

Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.

Who said it was jealousy?  I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all.  And I don't believe the guy vanished either.  Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise.  If something isn't happening, once has a choice.  Stay or leave.  Trying to force something had the opposite effect.

I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".

And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.

I think we can both agree that acting jealously is not putting stuff out there to get feedback.  One is done to evoke a desired response, the other is done to evoke a response regardless of whether it is the desired or not. That said, there is always something to be said for taking control of a situation and determining its fate. I'm not recommending that people put off what they wish to do, like I said you have to go with your gut.  However the person that prefers to air the matter now and not wait for the future to unfold is not the ideal candidate for psychic readings in my opinion. If one is not inclined to let things unfold in their own time, why get a psychic reading in the first place?  They are mainly to give you a glimpse of what is yet to come, aren't they?

[Bark angel]

In all fairness, though, I would not mind at all if the same support (let's call it peanut gallery input) were offered when psychics are accurate. Doesn't happen though. The most outspoken ones (and it is clear which ones are) become completely mute when something happens that proves a psychic to have real talent. Too bad really because I do not think this was the intent of this place at the outset. This forum has taken on a decidedly-negative overtone.

Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given?  Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out". 

Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone.  Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!

This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear.  The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.

[bstalling]

Did I just read the operative word WAIT? Hhhmmm

Two questions:
How long would you wait for something to present itself, while reality starkly draws an alternative picture? If armed with such faith and trust in your gut/intuition above all else, why continue to get readings?

So because she acted like a jealous woman, the guy just decided to make his love feelings vanish and never to be heard from again? Please.

If I am jealous and a guy that loves me sees it, he would spill his guts and say how he is only into me and wants me. He wouldn't just decide to "not love me" because I poked him a bit.

Honestly, I find this expectation that we are to be totally passive and just let things happen to us...dysfunctional.

Who said it was jealousy?  I am not sure the OP mentioned jealousy at all.  And I don't believe the guy vanished either.  Point is pressing someone on anything when that person is not inclined is never a good idea, psychic reading or otherwise.  If something isn't happening, once has a choice.  Stay or leave.  Trying to force something had the opposite effect.

I was talking about Sagrita..who was the poster that you were referencing I think. She referenced jealousy, you said she "questioned him".

And Im saying, what is pressuring someone and what is being an adult and putting stuff out there to get feedback? The psychic was wrong in the end and that is all that we can take as fact. Sometimes I feel like we are not supposed to blow in a certain direction lest our predictions don't come to pass. Unhealthy, IMO.

I think we can both agree that acting jealously is not putting stuff out there to get feedback.  One is done to evoke a desired response, the other is done to evoke a response regardless of whether it is the desired or not. That said, there is always something to be said for taking control of a situation and determining its fate. I'm not recommending that people put off what they wish to do, like I said you have to go with your gut. However the person that prefers to air the matter now and not wait for the future to unfold is not the ideal candidate for psychic readings in my opinion. If one is not inclined to let things unfold in their own time, why get a psychic reading in the first place?  They are mainly to give you a glimpse of what is yet to come, aren't they?

The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?

you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.

Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.

[bstalling]

I believe the point is, we would not have blown in a certain direction had we not continually spun on something a reader told us.

I am not against getting readings; I wouldn't be here if I were. What I am against, is not placing the proper burden upon these readers when they are wrong.

You are 1000% percent right about this, as far as I'm concerned because I believe this as well and no one said anything about being passive. Don't get me wrong, I also agree with your sentiment that if I am feeling jealous I would expect my partner to comfort and support me, but to stay in his face and harp about it and continually bemoan our plight will chase anything away.

For one thing, I personally find it detrimental to get a reading about a relationship, considering how volatile emotions are, even if it puts you at ease for the moment.

All I was saying is letting things go (this seems to be the biggest hump for most people) because it's very, very difficult to do. Trust me. Did I say 'very' difficult already?  We don't need to keep grasping for something that we believe should already be ours. This only results in pushing our desires away, which may also explain why time frames keep getting pushed further and further out.

And I agree, you shouldn't obssess over something. But letting things go is always a good idea when the person has let go as well. It doesn't mean you will always get what you want either.

Time frames keep coming and going because readers guess and don't have any sense of timing. Or they are just plain wrong.

[bstalling]

In all fairness, though, I would not mind at all if the same support (let's call it peanut gallery input) were offered when psychics are accurate. Doesn't happen though. The most outspoken ones (and it is clear which ones are) become completely mute when something happens that proves a psychic to have real talent. Too bad really because I do not think this was the intent of this place at the outset. This forum has taken on a decidedly-negative overtone.

Why is it that sagitira's experience can be analyzed and reinterpreted to support the false hopes here many have been given?  Yet, when it is clear that readers have been WRONG for so many, a select few want to pull apart every last detail of someone else's experience and offer delusional explaination for why the reading didn't "pan out". 

Plain and simple, the reader was wrong! Sagitirias experience is hers and hers alone.  Reality is the here and now, false hope is choosing not to see what is NOW because a reader told you it isn't so!

This forum is not negative, reality is taking place and SOME people recognize reality vs fantasy.
It is a choice to call reader after reader hoping to hear what you want to hear.  The forum has spoke many truths, however, some choose not to believe the truth even when it is right in front of their face.

Bark, everyone here believes that psychics have a talent..whether that talent is consistent, accurate, or useful in the long term is what everyone is starting to question. I don't think that is negative. 

I don't believe anyone here was trying to pick apart Sagrita..only to use her as an example (where we have all been) when trying to communicate our views about psychics. We are not all going to agree on this forum and that is ok.

[Bark angel]

Bark, everyone here believes that psychics have a talent..whether that talent is consistent, accurate, or useful in the long term is what everyone is starting to question. I don't think that is negative. 

I don't believe anyone here was trying to pick apart Sagrita..only to use her as an example (where we have all been) when trying to communicate our views about psychics. We are not all going to agree on this forum and that is ok.

I am saying that some, note *some* psychics have talent predicting the future and not just information that is regarded as not useful. And I say that regardless of what some of the outspoken members here would like to assert.

[Bark angel]

The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?

you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.

Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.

Please note that "waiting for things to unfold" does NOT involve "waiting".  Let's say I should have probably used the expression "allow things to unfold in their own time".  Better?

[Nottakingthebait]

I guess it is left to interpretation of letting things unfold in their own time, and what you do with the time while things are unfolding.

Just a fancy way of saying....you are waiting!

The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?

you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.

Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.

Please note that "waiting for things to unfold" does NOT involve "waiting".  Let's say I should have probably used the expression "allow things to unfold in their own time".  Better?

[Bark angel]

No matter how you try to slice it, no, it is not the same interpretation. What about the words "moving forward" do you not understand? You are trying to equate "moving forward" with "waiting" and the two are not at all the same thing. You are trying too hard, Kicking, but it's not working! 

I guess it is left to interpretation of letting things unfold in their own time, and what you do with the time while things are unfolding.

Just a fancy way of saying....you are waiting!

The bolded is what I have issue with. How long does someone "wait for things to unfold" without doing anything "wrong" (aka being a human and having feelings that you want to express to the person)? Is it not possible you will be waiting your life down the drain?

you know what, I may just get pissed, annoyed jealous at the offending party (aka douch boyfriend)..and I should be able to express that and not have him vanish. When a reader says that he will "express his feelings in time"...it should happen no matter what.

Yes, readings should give you a glimpse about what is to come...but those glimpses should be accurate.

Please note that "waiting for things to unfold" does NOT involve "waiting".  Let's say I should have probably used the expression "allow things to unfold in their own time".  Better?

[Nottakingthebait]

WARNING: This is going to be a long post full of truth, there is no explanation for these failed predictions other than the psychic was wrong.  I do not agree with the theory that the prediction did not happen because we wanted it to much, and all of the other reason listed in this thread today. 

The responsibility is not being placed on these readers for being WRONG.  The reader is NOT your friend; you are paying them for a service that they should be held accountable for.  I do not understand why some people defend the reader when the reader is simply WRONG!


Example:  Planning a trip to a location on a specific date, you get to the location only to find the hotel changed your reservation and delayed it six weeks….what do you do?  Do you sleep in the parking lot and check back with the desk clerk hoping for a room?  Do you continue to spend money with this resort hoping they will “come up” with a room for you?  Hell NO!  You take the situation into your own hands and find a place to stay.  Most of us would lose our shit and get a refund! Many of us would write a letter and let someone know about our experience…I think you all know where this example is going.  A service was/is paid for we expect what are paying for.  What is the point of a reservation if nothing is available when we arrive?  Hoping at some point the resort will find us a room? 
What is the point or advantage of a reading if the reader is wrong?  Most of the information cannot be validated anyway, how can you validate feelings when someone is not even talking to you?  How can you validate a relationship that is nonexistent?   Our intuition is NOT always correct, often it is clouded by our wants…feelings and emotions lie to you!  When we are caught up in the hopes and desires of a situation, our judgment is clouded and often our interpretation of our feelings are incorrect.

For those of you who are good at giving reasons why situations didn’t manifest as the reader said it would, and clearly do not hold the reader accountable…tackle this situation and let us all know what the caller did wrong, because it seems that a few here choose to believe the reader and not the reality as it is presented.

The caller, based on feedback, called regarding a broken relationship....of course the guy would come back! In the situations below timelines were pushed out, he was confused, blah blah blah.  These guys either MARRIED SOMEONE ELSE, or got ENGAGED.  Keen is full of feedback like these yet people on this forum choose to defend the reader and offer excuses for something so huge the reader SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT.  A marriage is a life changing event, it should be seen...period


Jamisonboys1123 According to her feedback her ex left her and her children.  Readers have told her he will be back.  He moved in with his girlfriend, got engaged, and is now married to the other woman, now known as his WIFE.  Below is some of her feedback.  What did she do that stopped her readings from manifesting?  Did she think about him so much that it caused him to marry someone else? Silly explanation isn’t it?

8/6/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, it was nice speaking with you about my ex. I'm glad he is not happy every since he left me and my kids
 
10/16/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, your still see me and my ex getting back together hopefully before Thanksgiving

11/11/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I really speaking with you it's crazy that you remembered me and Ihhaven't spoken with in awhile. You still seeing me and my ex getting back together after Thanksgiving. I hope your prediction comes to pass. 

11/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars You still seeing him coming back to me and you said in a couple everything will work out in my favor I hope your right but I will call back Monday. I hope your prediction comes to pass.
 
12/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I like what your telling me I believe in what your telling me. But he asked the girl to marry him. You said he's going to come back I really hope your right. I will email next week I hope prediction comes to pass 

1/15/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much, you said that me and my ex will get back together you you said play hard to get fresh myself up so can get jealous you said he will need me. The girl he's with he really don't love her and you said the baby that suppose to be his its not. But this month or next he'll be back with me 

1/16/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars First time speaking with you, I hope your prediction comes to pass. You said that me and my ex belongs together you see us as soul mates and he should come back to me next month. I'll call for an update 

1/26/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much you still see my ex coming forward next month. you see the girl in question that's she's controlling not with him for the right reason. That he has been thinking about me when he was happy when we was together. I'll call for update. 

3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.

Situation 2: Denahaspeace: Based on her feedback she was in a LTR with a guy who ended up getting married to someone else.  Of course she was given the happy fairy tale ending, the only problem was he married someone else.

4/25/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars I feel she was very good! I'm in a very bad situation. Probably more calm than I should be. But she calmed me more, gave me insights and predictions I've always believed in. I hope that this isn't more blind hope. I believe you - I know he loves me. I cannot believe he's done this. But regardless I am going to take care of me, take my power back and enjoy him when he comes crawling back. I talked to you for a long time, sorry ran out of funds! She's good - give her a try 

8/17/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars Thank you so much Jane, you've been very insightful and helpful - you saw him getting engaged or coming home possibly married before he went. But you also said, this is fishy, not okay, dark and somehow he gets out of this mess and ends up with me. This story is so bizarre it's been helpful to have your insight! 

Situation 3: Keepher79: Based on her feedback the guy she was calling about, the one that would come back, got engaged….just not to her.

10/10/2012 Keepher79 2 stars We chatted on 10/10. You were clear that he was nonchalent (sp?) about his love life. He got engaged this weekend (10/13-14). I think that's about the most decisive thing a man can do in his love life ... 


PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES!  There are many more!
In all of these cases the readers were WRONG!  The callers were told the guy was coming back,  timelines were pushed out and the guy ended up getting married to someone else.

[Bark angel]

OK, I'll bite...no one is saying that readers cannot be wrong.  And the analogy between getting a psychic reading and booking a hotel room is a little weak.  Psychics read "probabilities". Nothing carved in stone. You may as well compare buying a psychic reading with getting psychiatric counseling.  If the client pays they should get well right?  But it doesn't always work out that way.

I don't think anyone that posts on this forum believes every psychic or that every prediction comes to fruition, and it is heartbreaking to read when poor vulnerable souls are taken advantage of, but what caliber reader are we speaking of here?  You didn't post which reader(s) lead this poor person along.  Caveat emptor!

[bstalling]

OK, I'll bite...no one is saying that readers cannot be wrong.  And the analogy between getting a psychic reading and booking a hotel room is a little weak.  Psychics read "probabilities". Nothing carved in stone. You may as well compare buying a psychic reading with getting psychiatric counseling.  If the client pays they should get well right?  But it doesn't always work out that way.

I don't think anyone that posts on this forum believes every psychic or that every prediction comes to fruition, and it is heartbreaking to read when poor vulnerable souls are taken advantage of, but what caliber reader are we speaking of here?  You didn't post which reader(s) lead this poor person along. Caveat emptor!

At this point, I don't think that matters for most clients on here. Even the ones that see all of these accurate interesting details about us,often end up being wrong.

Can psychics be right? Sure. Can they get timing wrong and mislead us about when something will happen? Absolutely. Can they be dead wrong? Yes!

Should you count on these readings having any significant bearing on your life and exisitance? No! The reality is that 99 percent of clients expect readers to be right about timing and predictions when it comes to our lives. And 99 percent just can't deliver. Live your life as how you would before you even knew that there were psychics on keen. If you are miserable, live out the misery until its no longer in your pores. It sure beats "waiting" and delaying healing, which is what a fairly good, well intentioned psychic can do to us. This goes for anything you are calling about, not just relationships.

[lovelygirl86]

Yep! That sounds like my readings with the majority of the people I read with but only a few were right on certain things but I was in a situation similar to the ones below. The guy I was dating for 7 months LIVED with his girlfriend and her four kids! How do you not get that, and when he broke things off with me he ended up being with some other chick with two kids! That wasn't picked up by nobody!...anyone. I know it was my fault to even ask about this new guy. Like I know it was stupid to ask. I guess because I kinda would only get readings in regards to my job and made the mistake of asking about a guy. Look at how I'm feeling now. Or felt I should say. I felt insecure and wanted to push him out before he could hurt me because that's the vibe the readers are giving me. I wasn't trying to start anything between nobody on here, I was simply asking if this has ever happened to anybody else.

WARNING: This is going to be a long post full of truth, there is no explanation for these failed predictions other than the psychic was wrong.  I do not agree with the theory that the prediction did not happen because we wanted it to much, and all of the other reason listed in this thread today. 

The responsibility is not being placed on these readers for being WRONG.  The reader is NOT your friend; you are paying them for a service that they should be held accountable for.  I do not understand why some people defend the reader when the reader is simply WRONG!


Example:  Planning a trip to a location on a specific date, you get to the location only to find the hotel changed your reservation and delayed it six weeks….what do you do?  Do you sleep in the parking lot and check back with the desk clerk hoping for a room?  Do you continue to spend money with this resort hoping they will “come up” with a room for you?  Hell NO!  You take the situation into your own hands and find a place to stay.  Most of us would lose our shit and get a refund! Many of us would write a letter and let someone know about our experience…I think you all know where this example is going.  A service was/is paid for we expect what are paying for.  What is the point of a reservation if nothing is available when we arrive?  Hoping at some point the resort will find us a room? 
What is the point or advantage of a reading if the reader is wrong?  Most of the information cannot be validated anyway, how can you validate feelings when someone is not even talking to you?  How can you validate a relationship that is nonexistent?   Our intuition is NOT always correct, often it is clouded by our wants…feelings and emotions lie to you!  When we are caught up in the hopes and desires of a situation, our judgment is clouded and often our interpretation of our feelings are incorrect.

For those of you who are good at giving reasons why situations didn’t manifest as the reader said it would, and clearly do not hold the reader accountable…tackle this situation and let us all know what the caller did wrong, because it seems that a few here choose to believe the reader and not the reality as it is presented.

The caller, based on feedback, called regarding a broken relationship....of course the guy would come back! In the situations below timelines were pushed out, he was confused, blah blah blah.  These guys either MARRIED SOMEONE ELSE, or got ENGAGED.  Keen is full of feedback like these yet people on this forum choose to defend the reader and offer excuses for something so huge the reader SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT.  A marriage is a life changing event, it should be seen...period


Jamisonboys1123 According to her feedback her ex left her and her children.  Readers have told her he will be back.  He moved in with his girlfriend, got engaged, and is now married to the other woman, now known as his WIFE.  Below is some of her feedback.  What did she do that stopped her readings from manifesting?  Did she think about him so much that it caused him to marry someone else? Silly explanation isn’t it?

8/6/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, it was nice speaking with you about my ex. I'm glad he is not happy every since he left me and my kids
 
10/16/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, your still see me and my ex getting back together hopefully before Thanksgiving

11/11/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I really speaking with you it's crazy that you remembered me and Ihhaven't spoken with in awhile. You still seeing me and my ex getting back together after Thanksgiving. I hope your prediction comes to pass. 

11/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars You still seeing him coming back to me and you said in a couple everything will work out in my favor I hope your right but I will call back Monday. I hope your prediction comes to pass.
 
12/27/2013 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank u, I like what your telling me I believe in what your telling me. But he asked the girl to marry him. You said he's going to come back I really hope your right. I will email next week I hope prediction comes to pass 

1/15/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much, you said that me and my ex will get back together you you said play hard to get fresh myself up so can get jealous you said he will need me. The girl he's with he really don't love her and you said the baby that suppose to be his its not. But this month or next he'll be back with me 

1/16/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars First time speaking with you, I hope your prediction comes to pass. You said that me and my ex belongs together you see us as soul mates and he should come back to me next month. I'll call for an update 

1/26/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much you still see my ex coming forward next month. you see the girl in question that's she's controlling not with him for the right reason. That he has been thinking about me when he was happy when we was together. I'll call for update. 

3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.

Situation 2: Denahaspeace: Based on her feedback she was in a LTR with a guy who ended up getting married to someone else.  Of course she was given the happy fairy tale ending, the only problem was he married someone else.

4/25/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars I feel she was very good! I'm in a very bad situation. Probably more calm than I should be. But she calmed me more, gave me insights and predictions I've always believed in. I hope that this isn't more blind hope. I believe you - I know he loves me. I cannot believe he's done this. But regardless I am going to take care of me, take my power back and enjoy him when he comes crawling back. I talked to you for a long time, sorry ran out of funds! She's good - give her a try 

8/17/2013 Denahaspeace 5 stars Thank you so much Jane, you've been very insightful and helpful - you saw him getting engaged or coming home possibly married before he went. But you also said, this is fishy, not okay, dark and somehow he gets out of this mess and ends up with me. This story is so bizarre it's been helpful to have your insight! 

Situation 3: Keepher79: Based on her feedback the guy she was calling about, the one that would come back, got engaged….just not to her.

10/10/2012 Keepher79 2 stars We chatted on 10/10. You were clear that he was nonchalent (sp?) about his love life. He got engaged this weekend (10/13-14). I think that's about the most decisive thing a man can do in his love life ... 


PAY ATTENTION TO SOME OF THESE EXAMPLES!  There are many more!
In all of these cases the readers were WRONG!  The callers were told the guy was coming back,  timelines were pushed out and the guy ended up getting married to someone else.