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Title: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 08:13:50 PM
This is a very good video on how psychics tie in with LOA and explains why predictions happen or don't happen. She breaks this concept down very well and sums up exactly how i see them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKydRN1v1b4
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:28:03 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 08:32:27 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:47:48 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 09:09:18 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 09:13:01 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 09:24:25 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. astrology and psychics show you a potential path and energy and you can choose to go down it or not. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 09:29:15 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.

I do believe in fate/destiny which you also said you did but now suddenly have changed your tune. I never disputed LOA in this post or free will or whatever, infact I said that even if there is a law of attraction or other fields, or free will I simply disagree with that video as some things we cannot control. I think we shouldn't rule out that some things are out of our control because of my own experiences, that's all. I know you're so passionate about law of attraction but when I post I usually get responses about it off of you so thought I could at least comment on the video I saw for a change... Sorry for offending you so much.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 09:37:57 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.

I do believe in fate/destiny which you also said you did but now suddenly have changed your tune. I never disputed LOA in this post or free will or whatever, infact I said that even if there is a law of attraction or other fields, or free will I simply disagree with that video as some things we cannot control. I think we shouldn't rule out that some things are out of our control because of my own experiences, that's all. I know you're so passionate about law of attraction but when I post I usually get responses about it off of you so thought I could at least comment on the video I saw for a change... Sorry for offending you so much.

I'm not offended lol nor disputing anything. there's a lot of things i still don't know and we don't know so I can't say for certainty but this is what i believe and have experienced in my life. i haven't changed my tune, you just misunderstood what I was saying. i have always said i believe they're all intertwined. if i want to be a singer, my chart will show being a singer, ill manifest being a singer, a psychic will say Ill be a singer, and fate will make me a singer. whatever it is, its gunna show you the same thing. water can be ice, gas, or liquid but at the end of the day its still made out of water.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 09:42:54 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.

I do believe in fate/destiny which you also said you did but now suddenly have changed your tune. I never disputed LOA in this post or free will or whatever, infact I said that even if there is a law of attraction or other fields, or free will I simply disagree with that video as some things we cannot control. I think we shouldn't rule out that some things are out of our control because of my own experiences, that's all. I know you're so passionate about law of attraction but when I post I usually get responses about it off of you so thought I could at least comment on the video I saw for a change... Sorry for offending you so much.

I'm not offended lol nor disputing anything. there's a lot of things i still don't know and we don't know so I can't say for certainty but this is what i believe and have experienced in my life. i haven't changed my tune, you just misunderstood what I was saying. i have always said i believe they're all intertwined. if i want to be a singer, my chart will show being a singer, ill manifest being a singer, a psychic will say Ill be a singer, and fate will make me a singer. whatever it is, its gunna show you the same thing. water can be ice, gas, or liquid but at the end of the day its still made out of water.

Exactly, and I never said anything against other beliefs in this thread. Just simply said that I do believe that there are some things we simply can't avoid or miss no matter what we vibe out or hope for or try to manifest. At the end of the day people have come forth with proof of law of attraction, people have come forth with proof of fate, others have proof of free will and as you said nobody knows the real answer as all the time we are being shown new "levels" and beliefs and we have our individual experiences. That's all.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 11:01:09 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.

I do believe in fate/destiny which you also said you did but now suddenly have changed your tune. I never disputed LOA in this post or free will or whatever, infact I said that even if there is a law of attraction or other fields, or free will I simply disagree with that video as some things we cannot control. I think we shouldn't rule out that some things are out of our control because of my own experiences, that's all. I know you're so passionate about law of attraction but when I post I usually get responses about it off of you so thought I could at least comment on the video I saw for a change... Sorry for offending you so much.

I'm not offended lol nor disputing anything. there's a lot of things i still don't know and we don't know so I can't say for certainty but this is what i believe and have experienced in my life. i haven't changed my tune, you just misunderstood what I was saying. i have always said i believe they're all intertwined. if i want to be a singer, my chart will show being a singer, ill manifest being a singer, a psychic will say Ill be a singer, and fate will make me a singer. whatever it is, its gunna show you the same thing. water can be ice, gas, or liquid but at the end of the day its still made out of water.

Exactly, and I never said anything against other beliefs in this thread. Just simply said that I do believe that there are some things we simply can't avoid or miss no matter what we vibe out or hope for or try to manifest. At the end of the day people have come forth with proof of law of attraction, people have come forth with proof of fate, others have proof of free will and as you said nobody knows the real answer as all the time we are being shown new "levels" and beliefs and we have our individual experiences. That's all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1PsPPMfP8
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 11:12:48 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.

I do believe in fate/destiny which you also said you did but now suddenly have changed your tune. I never disputed LOA in this post or free will or whatever, infact I said that even if there is a law of attraction or other fields, or free will I simply disagree with that video as some things we cannot control. I think we shouldn't rule out that some things are out of our control because of my own experiences, that's all. I know you're so passionate about law of attraction but when I post I usually get responses about it off of you so thought I could at least comment on the video I saw for a change... Sorry for offending you so much.

I'm not offended lol nor disputing anything. there's a lot of things i still don't know and we don't know so I can't say for certainty but this is what i believe and have experienced in my life. i haven't changed my tune, you just misunderstood what I was saying. i have always said i believe they're all intertwined. if i want to be a singer, my chart will show being a singer, ill manifest being a singer, a psychic will say Ill be a singer, and fate will make me a singer. whatever it is, its gunna show you the same thing. water can be ice, gas, or liquid but at the end of the day its still made out of water.

Exactly, and I never said anything against other beliefs in this thread. Just simply said that I do believe that there are some things we simply can't avoid or miss no matter what we vibe out or hope for or try to manifest. At the end of the day people have come forth with proof of law of attraction, people have come forth with proof of fate, others have proof of free will and as you said nobody knows the real answer as all the time we are being shown new "levels" and beliefs and we have our individual experiences. That's all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1PsPPMfP8

Thanks but I won't be watching another video lol. I think we will always agree to disagree on our views and I am already confused with your postings as it is. I think we need to respect each other's experiences and beliefs/attitudes to life. As you said yourself even you don't know all the answers, so no point getting so defensive of something none of us know. I only said there are some things we can't control, whether there are other metaphysics or not.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: RPLguy on October 10, 2019, 11:20:37 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Holy quotes!
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 10, 2019, 11:33:51 PM
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either. 

I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this.  :)

i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.

Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.

psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.

I didn't take anything out of context I can assure you. I watched the video through curiosity and hearing other points of view. I'm not trying to sound mean but I find your postings honestly confusing. One moment you talk about destiny and LOA intertwined along with astrology, and then say about "current energy" ie free will and energies can change readings. We had a huge discussion over private messaging about how law of attraction and fated events go hand in hand, the complete opposite to what that woman is speaking of.

there's nothing confusing. they're all intertwined. they'll all show you a different angle of the same coin. i don't understand how any of it is confusing. you clearly believe in fate/destiny and refuse to see anything outside of that which is your prerogative but i don't believe metaphysics is an absolute science. its all means to allow you to take control of your life and make it into what you want it to be and not wait for life to happen to you.

I do believe in fate/destiny which you also said you did but now suddenly have changed your tune. I never disputed LOA in this post or free will or whatever, infact I said that even if there is a law of attraction or other fields, or free will I simply disagree with that video as some things we cannot control. I think we shouldn't rule out that some things are out of our control because of my own experiences, that's all. I know you're so passionate about law of attraction but when I post I usually get responses about it off of you so thought I could at least comment on the video I saw for a change... Sorry for offending you so much.

I'm not offended lol nor disputing anything. there's a lot of things i still don't know and we don't know so I can't say for certainty but this is what i believe and have experienced in my life. i haven't changed my tune, you just misunderstood what I was saying. i have always said i believe they're all intertwined. if i want to be a singer, my chart will show being a singer, ill manifest being a singer, a psychic will say Ill be a singer, and fate will make me a singer. whatever it is, its gunna show you the same thing. water can be ice, gas, or liquid but at the end of the day its still made out of water.

Exactly, and I never said anything against other beliefs in this thread. Just simply said that I do believe that there are some things we simply can't avoid or miss no matter what we vibe out or hope for or try to manifest. At the end of the day people have come forth with proof of law of attraction, people have come forth with proof of fate, others have proof of free will and as you said nobody knows the real answer as all the time we are being shown new "levels" and beliefs and we have our individual experiences. That's all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1PsPPMfP8

Thanks but I won't be watching another video lol. I think we will always agree to disagree on our views and I am already confused with your postings as it is. I think we need to respect each other's experiences and beliefs/attitudes to life. As you said yourself even you don't know all the answers, so no point getting so defensive of something none of us know. I only said there are some things we can't control, whether there are other metaphysics or not.

i was posting it to clear your confusion because she simply breaks down fate and free will and help you understand why my posts seem contradictory but in reality are not.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: jas on October 11, 2019, 10:28:07 AM
So there is this simple little game I play on my phone when I am bored.  It is a game where a score is kept and I hadn't broken my high score in almost a year.  I picked up my phone the other day to play and I had a strong thought that It was time for me to break my score.  I not only exceed my high score but I exceeded it by almost 50%.  So.....was I psychic and just knew I was going to break it when I picked up the phone or did I create it? 

I asked my most trusted advisor, who shall remain unnamed, and she said: "I believe we create in the moment".  She went on to explain that we can "practice" creating but when it's time, when it's really time, a human will tell the universe "I need it now."  I don't explain it as eloquently as she does but that is the general meaning of what she told me. 

Would love to hear someone else's opinion. 
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: marybell on October 11, 2019, 02:40:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1PsPPMfP8

Thank you Layda for this great link!
This explains a lot!    ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 11, 2019, 03:11:00 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1PsPPMfP8

Thank you Layda for this great link!
This explains a lot!    ;) ;) ;)

Glad you like it! I feel like it’s one of the simplest and best ways I ever heard someone explain how they actually work hand in hand.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: marybell on October 11, 2019, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: marybell link=topic=5129.1PsPPMfP8

Thank you Layda for this great link!
This explains a lot!    ;) ;) ;)
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Glad you like it! I feel like it’s one of the simplest and best ways I ever heard someone explain how they actually work hand in hand.
Yes, exactly.  :)
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: HornetKick on October 11, 2019, 10:55:34 PM
So there is this simple little game I play on my phone when I am bored.  It is a game where a score is kept and I hadn't broken my high score in almost a year.  I picked up my phone the other day to play and I had a strong thought that It was time for me to break my score.  I not only exceed my high score but I exceeded it by almost 50%.  So.....was I psychic and just knew I was going to break it when I picked up the phone or did I create it? 

I asked my most trusted advisor, who shall remain unnamed, and she said: "I believe we create in the moment".  She went on to explain that we can "practice" creating but when it's time, when it's really time, a human will tell the universe "I need it now."  I don't explain it as eloquently as she does but that is the general meaning of what she told me. 

Would love to hear someone else's opinion.

It’s tricky tbh. Sometimes it appears to work, but most times, not so much. I told my sister that god doesn’t answer my prayers so let’s pray together over something simple that could happen soon. I had previously set up a doctor’s appt and could not get in until 10/28/19, at the end of the friggin month. The prayer was to get an earlier date and time. After the prayer, the very next day, I got a call from the PA, physician assistant (and we had been playing phone tag all friggin day and I could never get her), but I did near the end of the day Thursday.

I saw my phone ring. She said she spoke to the doctor and they can now see me on Monday 10/14/19 at either 1pm or 4pm. I took the 1pm, which isn’t an earlier time, but (shrug), it was an earlier date. Later today the PA called again and left a vmsg that an earlier time of 10 AM opened up. I honestly don’t know what to make of it because I kept telling myself there is no way in hell I can get in earlier because this particular doctor was slammed. My sister didn’t find it so great though, so I told her let’s do this again for something else to see if anything transpires, plus she wanted to pray for whatever she wanted too. I placed a cutoff though for end of November, so it’ll be a minute if anything else transpires, although I can try again for something this weekend.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: HornetKick on October 11, 2019, 10:57:49 PM
Prayer to me is akin to LOA, meditating, asking for what you want, letting it go, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 11, 2019, 10:59:23 PM
So there is this simple little game I play on my phone when I am bored.  It is a game where a score is kept and I hadn't broken my high score in almost a year.  I picked up my phone the other day to play and I had a strong thought that It was time for me to break my score.  I not only exceed my high score but I exceeded it by almost 50%.  So.....was I psychic and just knew I was going to break it when I picked up the phone or did I create it? 

I asked my most trusted advisor, who shall remain unnamed, and she said: "I believe we create in the moment".  She went on to explain that we can "practice" creating but when it's time, when it's really time, a human will tell the universe "I need it now."  I don't explain it as eloquently as she does but that is the general meaning of what she told me. 

Would love to hear someone else's opinion.

It’s tricky tbh. Sometimes it appears to work, but most times, not so much. I told my sister that god doesn’t answer my prayers so let’s pray together over something simple that could happen soon. I had previously set up a doctor’s appt and could not get in until 10/28/19, at the end of the friggin month. The prayer was to get an earlier date and time. After the prayer, the very next day, I got a call from the PA, physician assistant (and we had been playing phone tag all friggin day and I could never get her), but I did near the end of the day Thursday.

I saw my phone ring. She said she spoke to the doctor and they can now see me on Monday 10/14/19 at either 1pm or 4pm. I took the 1pm, which isn’t an earlier time, but (shrug), it was an earlier date. Later today the PA called again and left a vmsg that an earlier time of 10 AM opened up. I honestly don’t know what to make of it because I kept telling myself there is no way in hell I can get in earlier because this particular doctor was slammed. My sister didn’t find it so great though, so I told her let’s do this again for something else to see if anything transpires, plus she wanted to pray for whatever she wanted too. I placed a cutoff though for end of November, so it’ll be a minute if anything else transpires, although I can try again for something this weekend.

the reason it worked was because you thought it would work with her but wouldn't work if you did it alone. reality will show whatever your dominant beliefs are and since you believe that g-d doesn't answer your prayers, it doesnt lol. just change that belief and it'll work every time.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: HornetKick on October 11, 2019, 11:02:24 PM
No that's not true. I was big on LOA once upon a time ago and my belief was strong in prayer as well. The belief diminished over time when none of my prayers were manifesting. How is that explained when I was really into at one time and nothing ever really happened for me. Now I'm not so much into it because nothing ever really happens for me.

BTW you don't have to believe for things to manifest. That is something I feel many miss.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on October 11, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
No that's not true. I was big on LOA once upon a time ago and my belief was strong in prayer as well. The belief diminished over time when none of my prayers were manifesting. How is that explained when I was really into at one time and nothing ever really happened for me. Now I'm not so much into it because nothing ever really happens for me.

BTW you don't have to believe for things to manifest. That is something I feel many miss.

your dominant beliefs and assumptions about yourself, people, and the world are always reflected back to you. when manifesting, you dont need to believe it will happen but you do need to believe its a possibility to occur. i dont know how to explain how that happened because i dont know you to assess why it didnt happen in the past but it worked when you did it with your sister so im sure theres a missing piece in there that you can easily tweak and have it work for you individually or just have her do it with you all the time lol.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 11, 2019, 11:26:45 PM
No that's not true. I was big on LOA once upon a time ago and my belief was strong in prayer as well. The belief diminished over time when none of my prayers were manifesting. How is that explained when I was really into at one time and nothing ever really happened for me. Now I'm not so much into it because nothing ever really happens for me.

BTW you don't have to believe for things to manifest. That is something I feel many miss.

I completely agree and that's my experience also. I just have no choice but to accept that if something is or isn't meant will or won't happen and get on with life. We can't always have the things we want, life does not work like that.

I have found that the more negative I am about things, the more they tend to happen. The more positive I am, I seem to get my hopes up and plans and expectations of things do not happen. For example your situation of ringing for a doctors space I'd ring up (naturally I'm very pessimistic) and think to myself no way will I get a space and worry and stress when there is actually a space... The more I am hopeful about there being a space for me and I may be in luck - does not happen. If a friend contacts me and says they may meet but am unsure and will let me know, I put less expectation into the friend and I meeting and hope for the worst. Usually, (not always of course) but the more negative I am the more things honestly seem to work in my favour. I would rather it be more positive things lol. It would be more healthier that way!
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: HornetKick on October 12, 2019, 01:52:50 AM
No that's not true. I was big on LOA once upon a time ago and my belief was strong in prayer as well. The belief diminished over time when none of my prayers were manifesting. How is that explained when I was really into at one time and nothing ever really happened for me. Now I'm not so much into it because nothing ever really happens for me.

BTW you don't have to believe for things to manifest. That is something I feel many miss.

I completely agree and that's my experience also. I just have no choice but to accept that if something is or isn't meant will or won't happen and get on with life. We can't always have the things we want, life does not work like that.

I have found that the more negative I am about things, the more they tend to happen. The more positive I am, I seem to get my hopes up and plans and expectations of things do not happen. For example your situation of ringing for a doctors space I'd ring up (naturally I'm very pessimistic) and think to myself no way will I get a space and worry and stress when there is actually a space... The more I am hopeful about there being a space for me and I may be in luck - does not happen. If a friend contacts me and says they may meet but am unsure and will let me know, I put less expectation into the friend and I meeting and hope for the worst. Usually, (not always of course) but the more negative I am the more things honestly seem to work in my favour. I would rather it be more positive things lol. It would be more healthier that way!

Totally where I am in life at the moment and some readers pick up on this and tell me to stay positive. I am positive, but know it doesn't work for me to manifest things. I even explained it to a reader once and she understood what I was saying and even saw it in the cards, but said this would change eventually (it hasn't yet). I know from readers as well that my energy is very strong so in order for me to release the [want] for something, I have to act like I won't get it in order for it to play in my favor. I only talk about it so that I can find a better explanation as to what it is and to find a way to tweak it in my favor on an easier level. Not there yet, obviously.

My sister told me today she didn't really pray with me and I did it all my own. Such b.s. if you ask me.

[your dominant beliefs and assumptions about yourself, people, and the world are always reflected back to you.] I'm not knocking your beliefs, but don't believe this is true, at least for me.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 12, 2019, 05:36:32 AM
No that's not true. I was big on LOA once upon a time ago and my belief was strong in prayer as well. The belief diminished over time when none of my prayers were manifesting. How is that explained when I was really into at one time and nothing ever really happened for me. Now I'm not so much into it because nothing ever really happens for me.

BTW you don't have to believe for things to manifest. That is something I feel many miss.

I completely agree and that's my experience also. I just have no choice but to accept that if something is or isn't meant will or won't happen and get on with life. We can't always have the things we want, life does not work like that.

I have found that the more negative I am about things, the more they tend to happen. The more positive I am, I seem to get my hopes up and plans and expectations of things do not happen. For example your situation of ringing for a doctors space I'd ring up (naturally I'm very pessimistic) and think to myself no way will I get a space and worry and stress when there is actually a space... The more I am hopeful about there being a space for me and I may be in luck - does not happen. If a friend contacts me and says they may meet but am unsure and will let me know, I put less expectation into the friend and I meeting and hope for the worst. Usually, (not always of course) but the more negative I am the more things honestly seem to work in my favour. I would rather it be more positive things lol. It would be more healthier that way!

Totally where I am in life at the moment and some readers pick up on this and tell me to stay positive. I am positive, but know it doesn't work for me to manifest things. I even explained it to a reader once and she understood what I was saying and even saw it in the cards, but said this would change eventually (it hasn't yet). I know from readers as well that my energy is very strong so in order for me to release the [want] for something, I have to act like I won't get it in order for it to play in my favor. I only talk about it so that I can find a better explanation as to what it is and to find a way to tweak it in my favor on an easier level. Not there yet, obviously.

My sister told me today she didn't really pray with me and I did it all my own. Such b.s. if you ask me.

[your dominant beliefs and assumptions about yourself, people, and the world are always reflected back to you.] I'm not knocking your beliefs, but don't believe this is true, at least for me.

When it comes to readings, like on someone returning for some reason I do feel like it's out of my control and naturally as time progresses and no contact has gotten longer and longer I think the worst and none of them still came back. But with small, if not sillier things like appointments, meeting up with someone etc, the whole being more negative about things seems to work for me more... I don't know why it doesn't work with POI's, which is also why I'm not into law of attraction, it's something I'll never know. I have had one or two guys return to me, but they were less serious interactions and none were POI's I got addicted about, nor exes. It's all really confusing. I've found the small less serious ones come back and the more serious the relationship was, they never seem to with me.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: jhuskindle on October 24, 2019, 11:08:04 PM
I think youre old enough to remember my many rants on LOA. ANY good reader should be able to see what you pulled in with LOA, and yes, you can use LOA, but they should see it as an event.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: Star_01 on October 25, 2019, 08:55:23 AM
I think youre old enough to remember my many rants on LOA. ANY good reader should be able to see what you pulled in with LOA, and yes, you can use LOA, but they should see it as an event.

Strange. I remember you were hugely into set destined events and hated LOA when you used to post more last year/beg of the year. I remember because you read for me privately and said that my ex would definitely come back, but it may have delays etc but you promise many things we cannot change. By the way, nothing of it came to pass at all but I appreciate your reading for me at the time and hope you've had more luck through readings.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: journalmuse on November 01, 2019, 03:52:56 PM
So there is this simple little game I play on my phone when I am bored.  It is a game where a score is kept and I hadn't broken my high score in almost a year.  I picked up my phone the other day to play and I had a strong thought that It was time for me to break my score.  I not only exceed my high score but I exceeded it by almost 50%.  So.....was I psychic and just knew I was going to break it when I picked up the phone or did I create it? 

I asked my most trusted advisor, who shall remain unnamed, and she said: "I believe we create in the moment".  She went on to explain that we can "practice" creating but when it's time, when it's really time, a human will tell the universe "I need it now."  I don't explain it as eloquently as she does but that is the general meaning of what she told me. 

Would love to hear someone else's opinion.

I remain interested in the idea of LOA but specific manifestations I'm not sure that I've had much success with. Though in the last few weeks I've been really, really missing my ex, and especially the last few days it's been very intense, hoping for some contact, you know that whole thing. I haven't been actively practicing any manifesting techniques at this particular time -- it's been months since I have tried anything like that -- but my desire to hear from this ex has been high and I've certainly wished she would reach out. This morning I woke up to a text from another ex I hadn't heard from in months. Not the one I wanted to hear from though, haha. So I don't know what to make of that, but it did make me shake my head like nooo universe that's not the right ex.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: jhuskindle on November 04, 2019, 12:13:10 AM
I've been in the darkest parts of life when great things came in. I think it's written or luck of the draw
 Sometimes lowlifes win the lottery. Scummy negative minded people prosper in business and a walking angel is in poverty. Loa isnt real.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on November 04, 2019, 12:36:31 AM
I've been in the darkest parts of life when great things came in. I think it's written or luck of the draw
 Sometimes lowlifes win the lottery. Scummy negative minded people prosper in business and a walking angel is in poverty. Loa isnt real.

you don't need to be happy to manifest things lol. why do people always think you have to be happy or positive or think positive thoughts. its a law its always working. i've manifested things when i was happy and when i was depressed. it goes much deeper than that and has a lot to do with subconscious thought patterns that we aren't even aware of. a lot of beliefs are set by society as well (i.e those pertaining to money, nice guys finish last etc). a lot of times you really need to reprogram your mind and work on those beliefs and then the reality shifts with it. but if you believe in fate or life is not in our control then loa will never work for you because you don't believe you create and things outside will always control what is happening for you.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: HornetKick on November 04, 2019, 01:48:25 AM
you don't need to be happy to manifest things lol. why do people always think you have to be happy or positive or think positive thoughts.
Because it's what we've been told, read, or heard ad nauseam, from LOA believers. Many psychics say to stay positive, like all.the.time.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: jhuskindle on November 04, 2019, 02:57:54 AM
you don't need to be happy to manifest things lol. why do people always think you have to be happy or positive or think positive thoughts.
Because it's what we've been told, read, or heard ad nauseam, from LOA believers. Many psychics say to stay positive, like all.the.time.

Cop out on case they are wrong to me. Like oh if you stop worrying about this guy you'll get more money. Or if you hold too close to outcomes they won't come true. To me sounds like bad readership.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on November 04, 2019, 04:09:11 AM
you don't need to be happy to manifest things lol. why do people always think you have to be happy or positive or think positive thoughts.
Because it's what we've been told, read, or heard ad nauseam, from LOA believers. Many psychics say to stay positive, like all.the.time.

Don’t trust anyone that says that it’s all bs. You don’t have to be anything or vibe in any alignment it’s all bs shit people made up that only impose more limitations. Does being positive help. Yes. It made me become a happier person but it has no relationship to manifesting. Neville Goddard is the only person I follow and only one i found who’s stuff works. He completely changed the game for me. He made me a believer.
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: jhuskindle on November 04, 2019, 04:19:21 AM
you don't need to be happy to manifest things lol. why do people always think you have to be happy or positive or think positive thoughts.
Because it's what we've been told, read, or heard ad nauseam, from LOA believers. Many psychics say to stay positive, like all.the.time.

Don’t trust anyone that says that it’s all bs. You don’t have to be anything or vibe in any alignment it’s all bs shit people made up that only impose more limitations. Does being positive help. Yes. It made me become a happier person but it has no relationship to manifesting. Neville Goddard is the only person I follow and only one i found who’s stuff works. He completely changed the game for me. He made me a believer.

Do you have suggestions to get into Neville?
Title: Re: Psychics vs. LOA
Post by: ladya on November 04, 2019, 04:38:30 AM
you don't need to be happy to manifest things lol. why do people always think you have to be happy or positive or think positive thoughts.
Because it's what we've been told, read, or heard ad nauseam, from LOA believers. Many psychics say to stay positive, like all.the.time.

Don’t trust anyone that says that it’s all bs. You don’t have to be anything or vibe in any alignment it’s all bs shit people made up that only impose more limitations. Does being positive help. Yes. It made me become a happier person but it has no relationship to manifesting. Neville Goddard is the only person I follow and only one i found who’s stuff works. He completely changed the game for me. He made me a believer.

Do you have suggestions to get into Neville?

He has a few books but I like feeling is the secret and the law and the promise. He says a lot about manifesting that I found to be true throughout my years of going in and out of loa and all these teachers who I found to be quite limiting in their teachings. The way he describes the state you have to be in to manifest and how you have to plant seeds only after the event has happened. All of these manifest a text or whatever else no no no those won’t ever work long term and I don’t know how he knew all of this but if you want results he is it. No one else worked for me