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Readers who jump to negative outcomes w/o any validating info

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flora0250:

--- Quote from: Sweetsydney2000 on April 13, 2019, 08:15:06 AM ---If it makes you feel any better, Shaman Kira told me that my boyfriend of 12 years didn’t even think of me anymore (we’d been apart 16 days) and then he messaged me maybe 12 hours later with one of those kissing face emojis and sucking up.

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Thanks - that’s awesome - I’m glad it turned out to be positive for you :) Thanks again.

Fidget1028:
I get that validations are important as it separates the cold readers from the gifted. But I also think that validations on past and present situations have limited value on future predictions. You can read with someone and they can get crazy remote viewing (descriptions down to a tee) or describe the entire situation past/present with scary accuracy and still not get the future correct. There are outliers of course. Someone who has been out of touch for a week is probably easier to predict than someone who has been out of touch for months. VERY few readers are truly good at future. Even fewer readers are good at future when you have been out of touch for a long time. In my experience I've had no readers get the future when it comes to love relationships. None. Some were excellent at present and past. I think with another person, it's nearly impossible to predict their actions even when they are thinking of you in the moment. Empaths are perfect examples of readers who base their predictions on the present feelings, which can be far from accurate. Psychics can only see so far. Outside factors may not always be seen in the reading, which can certainly effect outcomes. The only reader I have heard about who focuses purely on the future is Yona and her predictions, which I hear do come true often, can be years out. I just think that it's a crap shoot all the way around in determining the actions of the other person. All the past/present stuff is great for validation of a real reader, but it still isn't indicative of the future predictions. In my case, future predictions just never happen over the course of the last year.

flora0250:

--- Quote from: Fidget1028 on April 13, 2019, 01:30:40 PM ---I get that validations are important as it separates the cold readers from the gifted. But I also think that validations on past and present situations have limited value on future predictions. You can read with someone and they can get crazy remote viewing (descriptions down to a tee) or describe the entire situation past/present with scary accuracy and still not get the future correct. There are outliers of course. Someone who has been out of touch for a week is probably easier to predict than someone who has been out of touch for months. VERY few readers are truly good at future. Even fewer readers are good at future when you have been out of touch for a long time. In my experience I've had no readers get the future when it comes to love relationships. None. Some were excellent at present and past. I think with another person, it's nearly impossible to predict their actions even when they are thinking of you in the moment. Empaths are perfect examples of readers who base their predictions on the present feelings, which can be far from accurate. Psychics can only see so far. Outside factors may not always be seen in the reading, which can certainly effect outcomes. The only reader I have heard about who focuses purely on the future is Yona and her predictions, which I hear do come true often, can be years out. I just think that it's a crap shoot all the way around in determining the actions of the other person. All the past/present stuff is great for validation of a real reader, but it still isn't indicative of the future predictions. In my case, future predictions just never happen over the course of the last year.

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I hear that for sure - yes empaths and remote viewers are a great example - those that only and solely claim to possess that ability. I have had a small number of actual future predictions happen, one was Shelly like I know you know about and the other for a few things Cookie (but even hers seem like they could have been coincidental I’m not sure) - the others I’ve mentioned all gave me predictions not to happen until spring / early summer - so I’ve still got some time with those. Plus if I’m not supposed to focus on timing lol well who knows.

But I guess my point is I definitely have a hard time believing a future prediction - positive or negative - without that validating info. While some who provide validating info may be wrong, for sure, I can’t seem to get to the point where I believe someone’s prediction no matter how good the feedback (which could be fake to some extent) *without* any validating info.

I don’t know. It all feels so silly in the end if I’m truly like just allowing whatever happens to happen. Which I am. But it probably doesn’t seem that way to anyone reading because no one really knows me! It’s impossible to really know one another on a forum. Anyway - thanks so much Fidget. Lots of love your way today.

Fidget1028:

--- Quote from: flora0250 on April 13, 2019, 02:09:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Fidget1028 on April 13, 2019, 01:30:40 PM ---I get that validations are important as it separates the cold readers from the gifted. But I also think that validations on past and present situations have limited value on future predictions. You can read with someone and they can get crazy remote viewing (descriptions down to a tee) or describe the entire situation past/present with scary accuracy and still not get the future correct. There are outliers of course. Someone who has been out of touch for a week is probably easier to predict than someone who has been out of touch for months. VERY few readers are truly good at future. Even fewer readers are good at future when you have been out of touch for a long time. In my experience I've had no readers get the future when it comes to love relationships. None. Some were excellent at present and past. I think with another person, it's nearly impossible to predict their actions even when they are thinking of you in the moment. Empaths are perfect examples of readers who base their predictions on the present feelings, which can be far from accurate. Psychics can only see so far. Outside factors may not always be seen in the reading, which can certainly effect outcomes. The only reader I have heard about who focuses purely on the future is Yona and her predictions, which I hear do come true often, can be years out. I just think that it's a crap shoot all the way around in determining the actions of the other person. All the past/present stuff is great for validation of a real reader, but it still isn't indicative of the future predictions. In my case, future predictions just never happen over the course of the last year.

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I hear that for sure - yes empaths and remote viewers are a great example - those that only and solely claim to possess that ability. I have had a small number of actual future predictions happen, one was Shelly like I know you know about and the other for a few things Cookie (but even hers seem like they could have been coincidental I’m not sure) - the others I’ve mentioned all gave me predictions not to happen until spring / early summer - so I’ve still got some time with those. Plus if I’m not supposed to focus on timing lol well who knows.

But I guess my point is I definitely have a hard time believing a future prediction - positive or negative - without that validating info. While some who provide validating info may be wrong, for sure, I can’t seem to get to the point where I believe someone’s prediction no matter how good the feedback (which could be fake to some extent) *without* any validating info.

I don’t know. It all feels so silly in the end if I’m truly like just allowing whatever happens to happen. Which I am. But it probably doesn’t seem that way to anyone reading because no one really knows me! It’s impossible to really know one another on a forum. Anyway - thanks so much Fidget. Lots of love your way today.

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I get where you're coming from. I really do! I just wish validation meant that the predictions would happen. It hasn't for me. Who knows. Maybe it's me. Love to you as well Flora. :)

Danica:
Leanne wasn't negative for me just nothing apart from a few sentences in the reading resonated or had anything to do with me. A different Nicole was very negative for me (and wrong) and also Psychic Adora was very negative and also turned out wrong. She didn't seem to realize there was an existing relationship and treated the question like it was about a random POI, she said he had other women and we wouldn't see each other again (neither turned out to be true we are together now but it was unnecessarily upsetting none the less).

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