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Readers who jump to negative outcomes w/o any validating info

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flora0250:
Okay this has quickly become a pet peeve. And I keep asking myself is it me?!? But I’ve pkayed back recordings, looked over my notes, and can see a very distinct pattern here. Only two readers I’ve ever spoken with that have given me a negative outcome with my POI have provided any detail at all that makes me have any reassurance they may be actually connected to me or my POI.

One was Leanne and she is the only one of any reputation at all that has said we just wouldn’t connect again at all ever. Or that if we did it would be for closure - and more for him that me. Which is just odd. Anyway that hasn’t happened and my read with her was October - she predicted this in the new year -  and not only that but she flip flopped because when I asked her to give me a general reading she spoke of someone I had been recently involved with and that we would reconnect and be in touch again at least on and off - since he was the only man I was involved with at all in the last two years there is no one else it could have been.

The other reader has mixed reviews but he asked me for info or I gave it to him - I don’t recall - before making his predictions. He seemed like he picked up accurately on the situation which was heartbreaking because he kept saying yes it should work. He cares about you is attracted to you etc but he is so much in his head he won’t let it go anywhere - basically yes all signs are good but he will self sabotage his own happiness. But again even this reader I gave info to as to how long it had been since we talked etc. So it could have been cold read techniques tricking me.

Any of the others - it’s been: nope, you won’t get back together and any other questions? Really absolutely nothing that gives me anything to go on to hang up and say yeah wow they really connected and so I guess I’m convinced. I won’t hear from him again. Yep. That was the one who told me for sure and I really believe them because they told me XYZ validating info I know to be true.

So my vent is just that wow - I really wish if someone was giving me a prediction - honestly either way positive or negative because the positive ones I’m skeptical of too unless I get validating info (which those I HAVE in a very small number of cases - Mattie, Shelly, Rika (I think), Cookie to some degree, definitely Divine Love no doubt) ... don’t just throw out a prediction without me having anything to convince me you’re not just guessing based on how long it’s been since I’ve been in touch with him or whatever else.

So that’s my vent. If I get a negative prediction I want validation that’s believable. And I just haven’t gotten that and it’s just messing with my head. Because I ask myself am I hearing what I want to hear? And no, they are really not giving me anything to go on.

happyk:
Who are the ones who gave you negative predictions? Here's my list of readers who are were very negative..Steffani Rhea and Ed Roland have always given negative readings almost regardless of the situation

Steffani Rhea-- Bitwine
Ed Roland- Bitwine
Queen Of Cups-- Keen-- Disappointingly negative
Nicole 4 Sees Unites...sth like that-- Keen-- Condescending and almost rude
Clarissa-- CP I don't even think she read the situation, just went on to saying that if he's been gone for three months he's gone.

However, I want to say that although they give negative readings they might be the only ones that are correct because nobody's contact prediction has come true. Just saying.

flora0250:

--- Quote from: happyk on April 13, 2019, 05:04:15 AM ---Who are the ones who gave you negative predictions? Here's my list of readers who are were very negative..Steffani Rhea and Ed Roland have always given negative readings almost regardless of the situation

Steffani Rhea-- Bitwine
Ed Roland- Bitwine
Queen Of Cups-- Keen-- Disappointingly negative
Nicole 4 Sees Unites...sth like that-- Keen-- Condescending and almost rude
Clarissa-- CP I don't even think she read the situation, just went on to saying that if he's been gone for three months he's gone.

However, I want to say that although they give negative readings they might be the only ones that are correct because nobody's contact prediction has come true. Just saying.

--- End quote ---

Shaman Kira - Keen
Leo - CP
Bathsheba - CP
Rusty - CP
Felix - CP
Bonnie Jean - Keen

All of above either said I won’t ever hear from him again in any way at all or if there is any connection - it won’t be “consistent” or we just run into each other randomly or he would just want to be friends or something. But again none of them really gave me info I could be sure was not off of something I fed them by what I said or was in some way verifiable.

Contrast with Shelly (who I had markers happen as well as a pretty significant related prediction happen that didn’t have a marker), Mattie (who picked up the exact words I texted my ex with only my giving his name and mine and picked up on the details of the situation with only names and my not asking any specific questions), Rika (same as Mattie that I didn’t provide anything leading before she was already picking up things she couldn’t have known without a gift), and Divine Love -‘who picked up I was trying to figure out what was going on by looking at social media and thinking how he must be happy from what I’m seeing but also that I’m totally confused - as well as her picking up on the fact that when we left things I was looking for something very specific from him - that he didn’t think he should come forward to me until he had “done his homework” - that he knew better than to come forward half ass basically, which is same thing Shelly said - that why would he bother to come forward unless he was really ready which is what several others have said and although this may sound general it was actually EXACTLY how we left things - my saying okay well you take care of what you need to because that’s really more important in the big picture and when / if you’re ready reach out again and maybe thing will work out...

So none of the negative outcome readers were able to give me any of that kind of detail about how things ended or what happened or anything about my POI without at least me asking specific questions which could then be used for cold read techniques.

The negative outcome readers sure could all be right! Maybe I will never hear from him again or maybe it will go badly! But I have nothing to validate any degree of accuracy on past or present. Basically if you’re going to give me some grand outcome - positive or negative - give me something to trust you’re tuned in. For instance Nina from CP - and a few others - was very positive but looking back on my notes she didn’t give me anything that she validated for sure that might not be applicable to anyone - so I don’t put that in the category of those I trust even though I wish I could because her reading was super positive.

wishes215:
I know exactly what u mean. My list is:

Ed Rowland(bitwine) - was negative and wrong
Earth angel Elizabeth (bitwine) - she has always been negative and she maybe right but no matter what you are asking, she will just tell u whatever she feels like telling u. Lol! No matter the type of
Relationship u are enquirinb about.
Lily Oak (PO & bitwine) - could not validate and gave a negative outcome and was wrong.

Sweetsydney2000:
If it makes you feel any better, Shaman Kira told me that my boyfriend of 12 years didn’t even think of me anymore (we’d been apart 16 days) and then he messaged me maybe 12 hours later with one of those kissing face emojis and sucking up.

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