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Outcomes?
HornetKick:
--- Quote from: candiednut on April 21, 2018, 02:15:19 PM ---Gotta be careful with the "general ones" too, unless they can tell you very specific things with no prompting. Some of them will give you bits of pieces and then fish for info. They can say "Are you calling about a relationship?", you'll say "yes", then they'll say "Why do I see two men around you?", and if you say "there is only one", then they'll say "okay well you have someone else coming in".
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This isn't always true. I've had general readings where the reader was very specific. My question was along the lines of what is coming up in a number of months. It was a recorded reading. She sent back an MP3, so she couldn't ask any leading questions.
Why do clients answer the questions anyway? I've never understood this. I always say I don't know, what do you see. I'm not paying a reader to do their job for them. If they can't see any specifics and give general blah blah info, I know they are full of it. So many people talk about how complicated their relationships are so they have to give background information. Anytime they say this, I know their reading is going to be crap because they ultimately end up doing all the talking. Everyone's relationship is complicated, and to act like theirs is the only complicated one on the planet is just plan ridiculous.
maroonlight:
--- Quote from: candiednut on April 21, 2018, 02:15:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: maroonlight on April 21, 2018, 10:45:06 AM ---If I'm paying a reader, then I want to know the outcome, or at least because life is not set in stone, the most LIKELY outcome. Anything is possible, I already know that, so I don't need to pay someone else to tell me the same thing. I do think it's a red flag when readers claim that they only answer specific questions and don't do general readings, or that they can only see 3 months out into the future. Anyone who was truly gifted would have the ability to see beyond that.
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Gotta be careful with the "general ones" too, unless they can tell you very specific things with no prompting. Some of them will give you bits of pieces and then fish for info. They can say "Are you calling about a relationship?", you'll say "yes", then they'll say "Why do I see two men around you?", and if you say "there is only one", then they'll say "okay well you have someone else coming in".
I had someone on CP ask me if I was calling about a relationship, I said no I was calling about work, then she told me "well work is a relationship too because you have a relationship with your co-workers and boss" LOL!!!!
Ever notice how readers will ask prompting questions like "why am I seeing this?" "whats the significance of this?" or "I am seeing this, does it mean anything to you?" IF they are off, then they'll just say its going to make sense later or its going to happen later. I used to think that its because they can't always interpret what they see, but now I know its actually a cold-reading technique. Also, why would you be a professional reader charging people hundreds of dollars for a reading when you can't even interpret what you're seeing?
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I've never asked for a general reading. I know people say that for whatever reason the readers are more accurate about love if you don't ask about love and ask for a general reading instead. To me that really just makes no sense at all. If they are truly psychic, they should be able to see regardless of how I word it.
That is hilarious that that reader actually said that to you. I'd said probably 95% of calls are relationship geared so I've also had some readers say to me "I see you have someone on your mind." And that is a great point you made - They ask prompting questions in a really tricky way, and if you say no to something, they find a way to "fit" the what you said no to in the reading in a different way. This is why so many readers seemingly nail past and present events but can't get one prediction correct. Great cold reading techniques.
Newlife:
Reason why a general reading is better regardless of love or career or what not, is that when you ask a specific question, readers try to filter and get you answers; in doing so , some of the messages are mistranslated and also to avoid readers adding their opinion. I once asked a reader for a general reading and everything was going great until I asked specifically about my boyfriend, at the time we were seeing each other causally, unfortunately she thought someone new was coming in and described the same person as my now bf to me with specific details that won't apply to most, the new person she saw was the same guy I asked her about; I called her out on it .Her explanation was that sometimes they as readers unintentionally add their own opinions base on some of the past and it muddle up the reading. Since then I really stopped get specific questions.
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--- Quote from: candiednut on April 21, 2018, 02:15:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: maroonlight on April 21, 2018, 10:45:06 AM ---If I'm paying a reader, then I want to know the outcome, or at least because life is not set in stone, the most LIKELY outcome. Anything is possible, I already know that, so I don't need to pay someone else to tell me the same thing. I do think it's a red flag when readers claim that they only answer specific questions and don't do general readings, or that they can only see 3 months out into the future. Anyone who was truly gifted would have the ability to see beyond that.
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Gotta be careful with the "general ones" too, unless they can tell you very specific things with no prompting. Some of them will give you bits of pieces and then fish for info. They can say "Are you calling about a relationship?", you'll say "yes", then they'll say "Why do I see two men around you?", and if you say "there is only one", then they'll say "okay well you have someone else coming in".
I had someone on CP ask me if I was calling about a relationship, I said no I was calling about work, then she told me "well work is a relationship too because you have a relationship with your co-workers and boss" LOL!!!!
Ever notice how readers will ask prompting questions like "why am I seeing this?" "whats the significance of this?" or "I am seeing this, does it mean anything to you?" IF they are off, then they'll just say its going to make sense later or its going to happen later. I used to think that its because they can't always interpret what they see, but now I know its actually a cold-reading technique. Also, why would you be a professional reader charging people hundreds of dollars for a reading when you can't even interpret what you're seeing?
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I've never asked for a general reading. I know people say that for whatever reason the readers are more accurate about love if you don't ask about love and ask for a general reading instead. To me that really just makes no sense at all. If they are truly psychic, they should be able to see regardless of how I word it.
That is hilarious that that reader actually said that to you. I'd said probably 95% of calls are relationship geared so I've also had some readers say to me "I see you have someone on your mind." And that is a great point you made - They ask prompting questions in a really tricky way, and if you say no to something, they find a way to "fit" the what you said no to in the reading in a different way. This is why so many readers seemingly nail past and present events but can't get one prediction correct. Great cold reading techniques.
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HornetKick:
--- Quote from: maroonlight on April 21, 2018, 09:09:04 PM ---I've never asked for a general reading. I know people say that for whatever reason the readers are more accurate about love if you don't ask about love and ask for a general reading instead. To me that really just makes no sense at all. If they are truly psychic, they should be able to see regardless of how I word it.
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So we wish since we're paying them, but many readers take your question and feed you shit based on what you ask about. If they are any good, they would pick up any significant relationship in a general read, and once this is established, then ask questions. At that point, it wouldn't be based on what you asked, but what they already picked up on.
The energy readers use to do readings is kind of tricky. It's almost like they have to go to another part of their brain, or another space within the same space. It's very draining and tiring, as I've been told, so readers fill in stuff....lots of stuff and make shit up and add an opinion here or there, and just mess up the reading, although they may have originally picked up on some fairly good stuff in the beginning.
Bostongirl:
Yep, probably true. That is why so many readings are wrong and nothing happens.
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