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what if you have a really bad (off) read with a trusted reader?

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Zee:
Yeah I sort of agree with some of this and was going to add that readers always tell me they use their guides. I don't recall ever hearing a reader mention mine or any that I might have (I'm not sure I believe in any of this at the moment), although the reader has said that their guide(s) aren't giving them the information that I may have asked about.

I still believe 100% that readings are simply interpretive and if the reading is wrong/off or the prediction, it's because the reader isn't able to read/interpret the information correctly. This also leads into why readers give their advice thinking it's helping, but I can always tell and will ask if they are getting the information psychically.

I don't pay for advice.

I read with WizardMask yesterday and although a nice lady, she was just okay.  She did not give me any concrete information that I can use. I even stopped taking notes because there was nothing even worth remembering.

Amaranth:
There are a lot of readers who get information from their own guides- and a lot of the time their guides are getting information directly from your guides and then passing along the information to their channeler.

But this is another reason why I think it's crucial psychics/mediums/channelers be of sound health and unstressed when engaging.  I think we all remember a well known psychic who suddenly appeared to go off the deep end more and more as her 'Divine Angel' became involved. Quite honestly I believe she simply attracted a lower-level energy to herself- not an 'evil spirit' because I really don't believe in such- but simply a lower level, negative energy.

Everyone has guides.  Thinking of them as beings in flowing robes or winged angels is very comforting to many- so that's how they choose to see them and that's fine.  If you want to take a more scientific route that can be measured, they are energy- as everything in this universe is.  Protons, electrons, etc. traveling through the electromagnetic field, only they vibrate at a much higher frequency then our brains normally can.  With lots of training and focus, we can raise our own vibrations ( why monks chant because of the vibration it creates, etc ).  If you do some digging, you can find some amazing videos of scientific experiments done in controller environments where the electromagnetic fields were altered, actually allowing the scientists to float objects towards the ceiling with their minds.  This isn't magic- this is using the energy created by the electricity in our brains to directly affect and manipulate the energy of objects through the electromagnetic field of our plane.  When you begin to understand energy, you can see that science and 'miracles' can actually co-exist in some strange way.  One is validation of the other.

And yes, I said earlier, A LOT of inaccuracy comes from interpretation, whether the psychic is conversing with your guides or their guides.  Some see a 'movie show' playing in their heads.  Some see just colors and symbols.  Some see words scrolling at them like the opening of 'Star Wars', lol.  Some just have a jumbled mass of words hitting them in the head rapid-fire- not a single one a complete sentence.  And then they sit there and try to decipher it for you.  That's why despite popular belief, sometimes it is good to read with a tarot reader because the cards can actually help them put the 'story' or message together or more accurately.  That's why a lot of psychics work with several tools.

Bark angel:
Amaranth,
I noted you suggested a psychic called "Elisabeth Hart" has been good on timing for you.  There is an Elizabeth Hart on Keen.  Is this the same reader?

Amaranth:

--- Quote from: Bark angel on November 08, 2013, 10:35:20 PM ---Amaranth,
I noted you suggested a psychic called "Elisabeth Hart" has been good on timing for you.  There is an Elizabeth Hart on Keen.  Is this the same reader?

--- End quote ---

Yes- I did double-check and it in fact spelled with a 'z' so that should be her- her 'tagline' should say right in it 'timing'.  If you're still uncertain I can directly link to her.  She has gotten at least 2 timing predictions accurate for me- one was when I would find full-time work again after 8 months of being unemployed and applying fruitlessly every week ( and accurately describe the job I would end up with, too ) and another was a date for contact from someone that was correct.

Zenia:
Although i believe i have guides,i dont think they are very involved in my struggle for info about this and that man in details.Its more about the bigger pictures and my personal developement.
I can hear instantly when a reader tells me my guides are saying something that dont resonnate with my own intuition.It happens so often,and therefore i have concluded my own guides are not particularly active in my readings.
Exception have been with readings with a medium,and deceased one gave me messages through her,and their names.That was really incredible.

As for the guides the readers use themselves,one can certainly question their level of spirituality when they call your man"garbage",or use degrading words about another person.Why should we trust info from such guides?They dont come from the divine light,but lower levels of understanding and evolvement.

True spiritual guidance is recognized by the love and understanding,ability to see the bigger picture,to teach us forgiveness,compassion,and most of all to love yourself.Bottom line thats all its about.

I have read with Wizardmask about a year ago.She was the only one telling me my loveintrest was,and had been in a solid relationship for 8 months.She gave description of the woman he was with.I could never confirm the info,but doubted it.We have some common friends,and i never got the impression through them that he was with someone.Nothing on his facebook either.
Anyway,today i think he is single.

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