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curiousgirl:
I'm glad the two of you have escaped that and come to readings due to other things. Most people though end up with readers due to relationship issues and being involved with people who are indeed cruel or disgusting or horrible, even if the full picture isn't seen till later. Just looking at the posts here as well as on other forums in the past show that. It's part of why these readers make such good business.

curiousgirl:
Keen readers are often also on LP, Bitwine and other services. Back on the old group we had a number of people gathering info, finding things by chance or on purpose, and some ex and current readers also revealing things for various reasons. Those who had experience on Keen stated that the experts had access to a client's name and address. Maybe it's changed, who knows. We were also told by former experts that there were a few people at LP who worked in the offices and fed info to readers to keep business going. There's a huge "conspiracy" of sorts when you look at how they treat dissatisfied clients vs honoring their supposed ethical system.

There have been direct and indirect confirmations of expert groups and simple associations. Sometimes also when they tell you they need to meditate, what they're doing is looking at shared data lists or PMing others to get info on you. Also, on LP experts have old transcripts at the click of a button when you call, as well as a note section. So if you're wowed that they know your name and remember info, that's why.

SomethingBetter:
No one is trying to scare anyone away, Loops. I don't know how PS, LP, CP or any of those work, I don't use them. Never have not will. It just seems silly to say that Jeen readers have access to names and addresses. Can you imagine how many lawsuit AT&T would have had on their hands by now? We have all encountered seriously disturbed people on keen, do you not think there'd be something of someone having been contacted or harassed by readers who had their full name and address? Perhaps this was long ago. But with privacy acts being so stringent it just seems very unlikely now.

But playing devil's advocate here, who were these experts and what proof did they have?

curiousgirl:
It's been several years since the other group started, and about a year since it ended, Something. The experts who gave info were ones who did so asking to not be named (but yes, I know who about half of them were, and no I won't name them due to their requests. They did us favors and showed us things, and that's to be commended). Info came from all over in every form you can imagine. The level of unchecked (and why would it be checked where money is concerned?) scamming on every level at these companies is also quite far reaching. I understand you don't believe it, but they are serving their own interests as their main bread and butter is readings on these sites.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I wish you well and understand you believe fully in Cookie. I've posted on some other threads with some info and experiences, which I hope is helpful to others.

SomethingBetter:
It's not that I don't believe it. And no, this isn't about Cookie, as I have reiterated time and again, i read with her for fun and thats it, i care llittle about her or her "predictions." So please don't misconstrue this as me believing "fully" in her. I have never, nor will ever use those words about Cookie or any reader.

My concern is for me and my privacy, that's it. So if there is concrete proof that this stuff goes on and not heresy, I'd love to know.

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