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whskers:
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--- Quote from: HornetKick on January 23, 2018, 11:05:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kate on January 23, 2018, 05:27:26 AM ---That's the tough part - you can attract it, but you won't keep it unless you have worked on your own self esteem and confidence first..
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I don't believe this at all and don't see any evidence of this either. I've seen and know some extremely insecure people, who are very successful. Whatever they put their minds to getting, whether it's a fancy car or real estate property or a banking business they get, but when it comes to knowing they can hook another person, they aren't as secure there.
Not having self esteem doesn't limit them in other areas of their life. What accounts for that? I always felt there was something missing with the whole LOA concept and there are some major holes/flaws within The Secret. A group of people got together and mashed some concepts together that they took from other places (mainly the bible) and called it LOA or something similar.
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I have to agree....I don't think there's anything wrong with positive thinking, but I don't think that the whole law of attraction stuff works.
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I respect people’s Opinion but based on experience.. I believe in LoA. I have been doing it since I was a kid. I just didn’t know it’s a thing and it’s called LOA. When I was young and immature I used to visualize something really bad for my classmates that I hate and to my surprise something really tragic happens to them. I wouldn’t even want to say the very negative ones but this one example, I have a friend in HS that annoys me. I thought, wouldn’t be nice if I can just slap her. We were at the mall one time and we were just standing and she was laughing with another friend. Then a woman just came marching at her and smack her in the head. We were all surprised and wondering what did she do to the woman. She said I don’t know I was just standing and laughing with someone else. She cried so much that day. We can say it’s coincidence too. As I get older I don’t wish negative things on people anymore. But I do visualize or we can say dream a lot of things. I guess I’m a very driven person too so helps those things manifest. But I have been doing it for so long but minus the meditation.. laying down.. focus on your third eye part. I don’t date co worker’s but I met a guy in my new work during my 1st week that I have a big crush. Last week I thought.. would it be nice if he initiates speaking to me. Too bad we are not in the same department so there’s really no reason to talk. Yesterday he initiated and sent me a chat, he said “good morning.. are you in X client this week?”. 😍😍😍😛
Sure not everything you wish/dream/visualize for would come true.. but I do believe in gods plan too. He probably have bigger.. better.. meaner things in store for you.
Kate:
--- Quote from: whskers on January 24, 2018, 07:56:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: sawthelight on January 24, 2018, 06:16:46 AM ---
--- Quote from: HornetKick on January 23, 2018, 11:05:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kate on January 23, 2018, 05:27:26 AM ---That's the tough part - you can attract it, but you won't keep it unless you have worked on your own self esteem and confidence first..
--- End quote ---
I don't believe this at all and don't see any evidence of this either. I've seen and know some extremely insecure people, who are very successful. Whatever they put their minds to getting, whether it's a fancy car or real estate property or a banking business they get, but when it comes to knowing they can hook another person, they aren't as secure there.
Not having self esteem doesn't limit them in other areas of their life. What accounts for that? I always felt there was something missing with the whole LOA concept and there are some major holes/flaws within The Secret. A group of people got together and mashed some concepts together that they took from other places (mainly the bible) and called it LOA or something similar.
--- End quote ---
I have to agree....I don't think there's anything wrong with positive thinking, but I don't think that the whole law of attraction stuff works.
--- End quote ---
I respect people’s Opinion but based on experience.. I believe in LoA. I have been doing it since I was a kid. I just didn’t know it’s a thing and it’s called LOA. When I was young and immature I used to visualize something really bad for my classmates that I hate and to my surprise something really tragic happens to them. I wouldn’t even want to say the very negative ones but this one example, I have a friend in HS that annoys me. I thought, wouldn’t be nice if I can just slap her. We were at the mall one time and we were just standing and she was laughing with another friend. Then a woman just came marching at her and smack her in the head. We were all surprised and wondering what did she do to the woman. She said I don’t know I was just standing and laughing with someone else. She cried so much that day. We can say it’s coincidence too. As I get older I don’t wish negative things on people anymore. But I do visualize or we can say dream a lot of things. I guess I’m a very driven person too so helps those things manifest. But I have been doing it for so long but minus the meditation.. laying down.. focus on your third eye part. I don’t date co worker’s but I met a guy in my new work during my 1st week that I have a big crush. Last week I thought.. would it be nice if he initiates speaking to me. Too bad we are not in the same department so there’s really no reason to talk. Yesterday he initiated and sent me a chat, he said “good morning.. are you in X client this week?”. 😍😍😍😛
Sure not everything you wish/dream/visualize for would come true.. but I do believe in gods plan too. He probably have bigger.. better.. meaner things in store for you.
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Thanks - that's helpful re visualisation.. I too know it can be very powerful...
whskers:
--- Quote from: Kate on January 24, 2018, 03:10:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: HornetKick on January 23, 2018, 11:05:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Kate on January 23, 2018, 05:27:26 AM ---That's the tough part - you can attract it, but you won't keep it unless you have worked on your own self esteem and confidence first..
--- End quote ---
I don't believe this at all and don't see any evidence of this either. I've seen and know some extremely insecure people, who are very successful. Whatever they put their minds to getting, whether it's a fancy car or real estate property or a banking business they get, but when it comes to knowing they can hook another person, they aren't as secure there.
Not having self esteem doesn't limit them in other areas of their life. What accounts for that? I always felt there was something missing with the whole LOA concept and there are some major holes/flaws within The Secret. A group of people got together and mashed some concepts together that they took from other places (mainly the bible) and called it LOA or something similar.
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Only way you're going to be convinced is to try it yourself (that's what I did, and I witnessed miracles - seriously... Sustaining it, and doing it daily takes work - and I am on a roller coaster with it...) But if you don't believe it now, then you won't try it, and nothing will happen.
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I also understand where Kate is coming from... I think what she meant about insecure and self esteem.. let’s say you attract back your ex because of PoI... but if you keep on bringing up the same issue over and over again... then you’re still negative then you would scare your PoI again. I had an ex that came back in 2014. Again when I was sad I visualized he will come back and he did. I really want him back. But if I don’t fix myself and heal myself from all the issues we had in the past.. then what’s the point. How can I keep him. So I started to be more supportive.. not nag.. went to counseling.. felt more secure that he will not cheat on me or leave me.. or even if he leaves me I just want him to be happy. Then the relationship started getting better.
sawthelight:
It's interesting for sure, but I know that I have thought very negatively about situations that have turned out positive, and I have felt positive about situations that have turned out negative. So, I don't know.
I know a girl who is the most negative, paranoid, self conscious person you will ever meet...and she always attracts good guys in her life, who take care of her AND her kids. It's not like she's sitting there visualizing positive stuff, believe me.
whskers:
--- Quote from: sawthelight on January 24, 2018, 08:13:37 AM ---It's interesting for sure, but I know that I have thought very negatively about situations that have turned out positive, and I have felt positive about situations that have turned out negative. So, I don't know.
I know a girl who is the most negative, paranoid, self conscious person you will ever meet...and she always attracts good guys in her life, who take care of her AND her kids. It's not like she's sitting there visualizing positive stuff, believe me.
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I was gonna respond something mean but.. I don’t want mods to call me out. 😬 not to you! About her!
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