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journalmuse:
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--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on February 13, 2019, 06:38:31 PM ---I have to be completely honest here. I had a total of 3 readings with her. The last reading I had was this past Saturday and it was ON THE PHONE. Lol. Not chat this time. As far as the bigger picture of things.....it was the same in all 3 readings. HOWEVER, in the first reading she told me point blank "This guy does NOT love you. He loves having you available to him". The second reading she said he was calculating some things to see what situation would benefit him the most. But, in this 3rd reading, she said "If I look at him empathically, and was honest with you, I don't think it would be fair to you but I will do it anyway. When I look at him, he does have feelings for you and even thinks of wanting to have a future with you and feels you are the only one he would want to have a future with. But he is not capable of the actions so it just remains thoughts".
So, there you have it. Very different as far as feelings go. Lol. I am not sure if I will call her again or not because she was also COMPLETELY CREEPILY accurate on the current situation itself. So, maybe it's just that this person's feelings change often? Maybe sometimes he feels he really loves me and other times not so much? I mean, we are human and we do change our feelings and thoughts. I know I do and sometimes quite often lol.
So all in all I'm not going to say she's a bad reader because I actually find her quite good with many things. I'm more inclined to think that it is the person she is reading that is fluctuating so much which is why the feelings aspect can be different each time. Just my two cents.
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I agree that we fluctuate with how we’re feeling and what not but love doesn’t fluctuate. You either love a person or you don’t. You can’t love a person one day and not the next lol at least not that quickly. Maybe she picked up different aspects of him in all the readings.
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I definitely hear what you're saying. I'm not sure if it's that cut and dry though. I mean, sometimes I feel like I love this dude, and sometimes I absolutely despise him. So, my feelings, even of love, really do fluctuate depending upon the person lol. It could be that I love him but don't really want to continue loving him. I'm not sure.
I also have to agree with Fidget here. I think everyone loves in different ways or has their own idea or definition of what love is. Some love is very very self serving, so it's like, they can feel like they love YOU but at the same time, it's more like they either love the idea of you or love what you do for them or love how you make them feel or what you provide for them. They can love some parts of you but not other parts. I mean, I think love is a bit more complicating, for me anyway lol.
I know a lot of people say "love yourself" but isn't that essentially what these other people are doing that are hurting us? They are loving their own selves more. So I'm not even sure what my take on that is at this point either. I know that we should love and respect ourselves enough to not allow anyone to abuse us. I get that part. But loving ourselves to the point where we become completely self serving and self centered is completely different.
I also agree with flyingsoul that there is a difference between love and attachment and I think a lot of us or, maybe our POIs, confuse love with attachment. On the flip side of that, with love comes attachment many times as well so perhaps that is where a lot of confusion also comes in.
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I think there is sometimes some subjectivity here, like, my definition of what love is or how I feel it might be different than what yours is or how you feel it, or a psychic's for that matter. I had one psychic tell me, yes this person loves you insomuch as they can love anyone. And I thought that was a curious way to put it, but also kind of revealing of the way a psychic might experience "love." She said yes, this person loved me in the way that people love each other, but that part of it was self-serving. So to her I guess that wasn't what she thought of as "real love." But for the person I was asking about, that was "real love" as they experienced it.
If you are confused, instead of asking - does this person love me? I would ask -- does this person think they love me? Do they consider themselves in love with me? (There is room here for self-deception or a lack of self-awareness, but you see where I am going, and a good psychic would be able to pick up on this too I think.)
Fidget1028:
Thanks journalmuse, that's what I was trying to say. You said it much clearer.
Miss Philosopher:
I agree journalmuse. Very well put. I don't ask if a person loves me or not. I just ask if the person has feelings of any sort, be it good or bad lol. I agree that everyone has their own definitions of what love is and how it should be or is shown. Every human wants something out of it, whether it is to "feel" loved, admired, respected, feel secure, feel comfortable etc. Sometimes a combination of things.
Like in my situation, I know this person is very attached to me, but I do not feel the energy of actual "love" and that may be because I have a certain idea as to how I should feel when loved because I've felt it before. I feel like more of a mother or a guide or a counselor type energy to where I am needed and wanted for certain purposed, but it is not the kind of feeling that I am seeking. Hence why I just feel the need to move on but be there as a friend for said person because I know how scary it is to lose that one person that was always there for you no matter what, especially when you've never had anyone there for you before like that..........which for me, was my dad, but he transitioned over in 2017. That was one of the scariest moments of my life.
I think the ways that we love need to match the ways that our partners love and if it doesn't, then either compromise and understanding is needed on both parts, or it just has to end because that is when it just becomes draining and toxic in my opinion.
Fidget1028:
Exactly. I think it can all be difficult to discern. Toss in mental or emotional impairments and it's a murky mess.
Miss Philosopher:
--- Quote from: Fidget1028 on February 14, 2019, 01:05:29 PM ---Exactly. I think it can all be difficult to discern. Toss in mental or emotional impairments and it's a murky mess.
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LOL I know right......makes it a thousand times harder. :/
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