The Psychic Reviews
Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Keen.com => Topic started by: aquamoon on February 07, 2012, 02:26:31 AM
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Keen advisors do not share notes on callers nor are they even allowed to mention any callers names or share any information. It is against keen policy who ever came up with that theory of advisors sharing notes is 100% incorrect. An advisor would have no knowledge you were going to call them and unless you schedule an appointment with an advisor they have no prior knowledge you are calling. Know the facts before you spread lies and if you feel advisors are sharing notes then simply do not call. Clearly you can look at feedback and see if others have valid predictions that happen the advisor is genuine. Spreading information that is merely an opinion without actual facts and if it can be proven you are wrong is slander and defamation. It was rumored in the past there was a group of advisors sharing notes however this was over 10 years ago and those advisors were banned from keen. My mother is a keen advisor and has been since 2001 I was an advisor but I no longer read on keen I only do private in office readings in case anyone is wondering how I know this information.
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No one spread any lies. This is a DISCUSSION forum. We were wondering. How are groups formed???? Obviously the readers have to communicate in order to create groups!
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Excatly and according to keen they shouldn't be talking to one another hmmmmmn
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As a Keen reader I can tell you that we don't have access to each other's caller base. A caller has to e-mail or call to be in our customer base.
As for groups, yeah, a reader starts a group and invites other readers to join. We often wonder how callers can find them as there is no way to know other than finding a group link on the group leader's page.
Or you talking about groups in another way? We don't have groups that get together like high school kids and talk about callers. We do have several forums, but are not allowed to name individual names. If anyone does, keen takes that post down in the forums.
Best wishes
Ruth
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No one spread any lies. This is a DISCUSSION forum. We were wondering. How are groups formed???? Obviously the readers have to communicate in order to create groups!
Synergy there are a few posts that claim to be factual and are not possibly not by you. I was never in any group, my mother had a group but disable it due to her getting heat a few times about a reader who joined her group. To my knowledge any advisor can create a group and other advisors have to ask permission to join similar to joining this forum. Please do not be brainwashed to think advisors have a secret circle. There are many unstable energies on this forum be careful who you trust. Everyone who says there are rooting for you is not rooting for you.
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@Aquamoon - But the loop hole in what you say is the caller has to e-mail and/or call in to be in your customer base. I am assuming once we are in that customer base then you could possibly share information.
I believe you are correct in stating that you cannot contact a customer who has not contacted you before - but what happens after this? I am not stating that I think you are personally unethical - this is not a personal attack, but the possibility is certainly there for readers to take advantage of this situation.
Let's not forget this is a money driven industry.
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Synergy, groups on Keen are a GOOD thing. It's simply a LIST of readers that (usually, hopefully) the group (list) creator formed. It's to help *callers* find us. Some of us are found on groups when we would not be found otherwise.
Groups are nothing sinaster. They are advertising so to speak that we pretty much have to 'take in our own hands' cuz Keen makes us PAY to be at the top of listings. Everyone on that group page when they get a call from it have to pay a group fee to the group owner for 'sponsering' them so to speak on that group. Like a newspaper add is paid, not free.
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I completely understand, and I'm not accusing readers of anything. I just think that this shows that readers can speak with one another which worries me because I don't want them sharing our information. Obviously, I believe in psychics if I'm calling them so often. I just don't want to think that they'd being dishonest in any way. I welcome the reader's prespective but not if it's accusatory or trying to pit forum members against each other. I am under a lot of emotional pain and confusion and this forum has helped me A LOT.
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Well, this is a members discussion forum, so the whole slander thing is complete BS ! I found your post stating that there are lies being spread on here to be offensive, as I dont think anyone on here has said anything that is a lie. And seriously why would you get so defensive? Because your mother is a reader on Keen? The purpose of this forum titled: The Psychic Reviews is just that, a review of how a psychic worked for each of us! And, well, I would have to say that the majority are full of BS, hence, the posting you left defending the notes. I know for a fact the majority keep notes, and I also know that many of the advisors are friends and do share "stories".
Example: I have had several advisor refer me to another for "areas" that they are not good with such as timing. Funny when you call the other advisor they just know so much information it will blow you away! LOL Whatever!
Example 2: On the note that many are friends on Keen, I received an email from Vicky, American Eagle Psychic that Roxie (Roxies Gift) is in the hospital clinging for life. Interesting that Vicky would have Roxies passwords, and knowledge of her condition.
So I would have to say that if it looks like a scam, well it probably is. The reason for this forum is not to defend how we feel about certain readers, but rather to let each other know what we thought. So, if it offends you well too bad, no on is here telling lies.
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i know that advisors can also get you on their customer list for mass emails and stuff if you "arrange a call" and not go through with the call. arranged a call before with a couple advisors, but i never got to read with them due to bad timing or something and i got a mass email from them sometime later even though i never read with those advisors.
btw, theres a Keen basher list on the web so if u've been blocked by advisors u've never read with then that may explain why some of u guys are getting blocked by advisors you've never read with before.
@aquamoon i don't know about the "unstable energies" here, but i think there's quite a bit of advice going around even thought it hasn't be asked for. maybe i think like a guy sometimes so this is starting to get on my nerves lol
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I think we have hit a nerve girls. We are apparently asking too many questions about the policies of some of these sites. I feel like Dorothy from the "Wizard of Oz" and we are pulling back the curtain.
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I am simply stating there is no reason for an advisor to share notes if advisors are sharing notes one would assume they have no psychic ability. And how would an advisor know that a particular person is going to call them? You stated you know for a fact advisors keep notes why would you call someone keeping notes on you? Many of you have invalid information that's all I'm saying. As I said I have not been on keen since 2003 I am not here to start any problems. Just want the people in this forum to know if you feel an advisor is sharing notes on you they may not be authentic.
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I completely understand, and I'm not accusing readers of anything. I just think that this shows that readers can speak with one another which worries me because I don't want them sharing our information. Obviously, I believe in psychics if I'm calling them so often. I just don't want to think that they'd being dishonest in any way. I welcome the reader's prespective but not if it's accusatory or trying to pit forum members against each other. I am under a lot of emotional pain and confusion and this forum has helped me A LOT.
WOW, you must be in a lot of pain. It didn't even occur to me that anyone may think it's a possibility of those side effects you mentioned of a reader being here. Obviously I know a lot of more kind and compassionate (and honest) readers than you do, or that mindset would not have even been brought up. Since I'm not here for that, it never occured to me anyone would have that much fear of a reader being here. I'll leave. I didn't say that much anyway. I'm not a 'match' for that mindset you are describing.
Best wishes (seriously)
Ruth
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Ruth, I was not referring to you. I didn't appreciate the accusatory tone of aquamoon's post... In which she also accused fellow forum members of not really rooting for me. I don't know of that's true or not but I come here for support and to get everyone's take on other readers. My post was not directed at you. I do not what to be the reason you leave. You bring a different prespective which I appreciate.
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No one spread any lies. This is a DISCUSSION forum. We were wondering. How are groups formed???? Obviously the readers have to communicate in order to create groups!
Synergy there are a few posts that claim to be factual and are not possibly not by you. I was never in any group, my mother had a group but disable it due to her getting heat a few times about a reader who joined her group. To my knowledge any advisor can create a group and other advisors have to ask permission to join similar to joining this forum. Please do not be brainwashed to think advisors have a secret circle. There are many unstable energies on this forum be careful who you trust. Everyone who says there are rooting for you is not rooting for you.
No one here knows one another on a personal level, there's no reason to lie about rooting for her and if they are then so what? It's positive intent. sheesh.
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Exactly, haileyn, that's a weird accusation.
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Oh lord....
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I am simply stating there is no reason for an advisor to share notes if advisors are sharing notes one would assume they have no psychic ability.
That was our point.
And how would an advisor know that a particular person is going to call them?
They don't have to know, all they'd have to do is look our name up in their database.
I believe it was ripoffreport that had Keen advisers on it, that said for a fact Keen shared notes. Also advisers have admitted it to people on here - that they either kept notes or shared notes (that was in a thread a long time ago)
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm actually really glad to have found this forum. I was reading what everyone's saying about Keen advisors sharing notes and I think that some would do that. If they know each other, what would keep them from sharing the information they have on their customers?
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm actually really glad to have found this forum. I was reading what everyone's saying about Keen advisors sharing notes and I think that some would do that. If they know each other, what would keep them from sharing the information they have on their customers?
Welcome Farfromhome! I was happy to read that you also had a good reading with Cookie. This is what the forum is about, how else would we know who is full of it or not! Thank you for sharing, I feel better!
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@jordie: I am with you!
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@aquarian: I've seen the basher's site also, I am not on it. So, there must be some other logical explanation - maybe 'AQUAMOON' can enlighten us??
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I am simply stating there is no reason for an advisor to share notes if advisors are sharing notes one would assume they have no psychic ability. And how would an advisor know that a particular person is going to call them? You stated you know for a fact advisors keep notes why would you call someone keeping notes on you? Many of you have invalid information that's all I'm saying. As I said I have not been on keen since 2003 I am not here to start any problems. Just want the people in this forum to know if you feel an advisor is sharing notes on you they may not be authentic.
I don't know if they are sharing notes or not but I know something is very wrong here. I don't understand how every reader that has a MASS feedback from one person has all of a sudden blocked me. I don't go on psychic binges anymore but at a very low point some weeks ago about my job situation I went to someone mentioned here and was blocked which sent me on an experiment.
Anyway it doesn't matter it just proves that they can't see crap and are afraid of me. If a reader is sure of their gift why block someone. It has nothing to do with not able to connect. Some readers like kisha knows when they can't connect, sapphire gives free minutes to see if she can't connect first. These are good readers, they are not 100 percent but they are good. Only God is perfect.
But when everyone that has a mass feeback from someone blocks me I find that highly suspicious.
Readers don't wow me anymore. The only thing that wows me are predictions coming to pass. Don't tell me what I look like or what I had for dinner, don't tell me someone loves me, don't tell me money is around me, don't tell me bs like that anymore, that is for newbies to the psychic game.
If you give me a prediction I want it to come true if you know you are not capable of that please save me money and BLOCK ME.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but kisha loves blocking people with no explanation.
I've read with her 4 or 5 times but haven't in almost a year. She's just blocked me with no explanation or reason. I had no intention of reading with her again because she was wrong about most things but I sometimes would check her queue as I do with others sometimes.
Smacks of arrogance or something else more fishy than that.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but kisha loves blocking people with no explanation.
I've read with her 4 or 5 times but haven't in almost a year. She's just blocked me with no explanation or reason. I had no intention of reading with her again because she was wrong about most things but I sometimes would check her queue as I do with others sometimes.
Smacks of arrogance or something else more fishy than that.
hi sp am sorry to hear that kisha blocked you. You say she was wrong on most things and am guessing right on a few?, maybe the times she was right for you she was trying to connect well with you and finally couldn't connect well and so just had to block you so that she doesn't continue to be wrong for you most times?. Maybe the connection was on and off and she didn't want you to spend/waste money.
The ones that blocked me I have never read with and it was in mass.lol
Thanks readers that blocked me. Thanks for saving me money as you had a low rate of accuracy and was afraid that the scales have fallen out of my eyes and fairy tales no longer work with me.
At this point I need accuracy. Point, blank, period. Not stories. I can go to the movies for that.
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and I'm actually really glad to have found this forum. I was reading what everyone's saying about Keen advisors sharing notes and I think that some would do that. If they know each other, what would keep them from sharing the information they have on their customers?
exactly. If they knew each other personally outside keen they could share notes.
They could call each other up and say so and so is on a psychic, these are what she usually asks.
Don't forget that as they read they ask us things ever sooooo innocently which is added to notes about you and they could give it to the next psychic who now says these things without you mentioning them and bam you are wowed that they 'picked' up so much.
Why is it that OUTCOME accuracy is rare?. The answer is because outcome is not known until it happens.
That's why stories don't move me anymore and readers no longer like me.
I got an email from two readers I read with a while ago telling me to come for an update well that wasn't flying with me. I replied to both of them that I am still waiting for their prediction time to come true before I return to them.
If the reader is not one of my trusted readers then please wait for your prediction to come to pass before you invite me back again. If your prediction does not come to pass I will not return to find out why your prediction failed.