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So I ended up contacting them even though I was giving a timeframe. does that mean that time frame will not pass or will it still pass despite already reaching out?
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Did they reply? I feel like contact is when they speak to you, regardless of who intitates it. That’s the way I’ve always seen it
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Likely depends on the circumstances. Our actions and choices can change things. For some, initiating might make things happen faster, but in other cases if the other person for some reason is not ready.... it might cause them to pull back, and make things take longer. If a reader spells out that this or that is needed for a time frame (or don't do this or that to avoid set back), likely best to consider that advice, especially if they explain why etc....
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So I ended up contacting them even though I was giving a timeframe. does that mean that time frame will not pass or will it still pass despite already reaching out?
I'm weird about this. I believe when a timeframe is given, that it's set. Like, if you reach out, and it happens to be "in that timeframe", then I feel that's what triggered that event, and timeframe to come about. But yeah, I don't really believe in timeframes being "pushed back" by free will or whatever. I think that's a cheap mind game some pyschics try to use as an excuse for being wrong.
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So I ended up contacting them even though I was giving a timeframe. does that mean that time frame will not pass or will it still pass despite already reaching out?
I'm weird about this. I believe when a timeframe is given, that it's set. Like, if you reach out, and it happens to be "in that timeframe", then I feel that's what triggered that event, and timeframe to come about. But yeah, I don't really believe in timeframes being "pushed back" by free will or whatever. I think that's a cheap mind game some pyschics try to use as an excuse for being wrong.
I agree with Josh on this. Freewill pushing time is bullshit. If freewill is a variable why even bother? Nothing is set in stone? Really? I think all of us are capable of intuitively calculating a certain possible outcome based on one's action and if that's what the psychics are doing, oh boy
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Free will is the opposite of something set in stone. People shift and change moods, mindsets, directions all the time, which also changes outcomes on countless things big and small. A couple can start a marriage believing they utterly love that person and will spend their whole lives devoted to them, but a couple years later no-longer can stand them. Free will just means we are not locked to some single pre-destined result outside of our choice and control. We have the ability to change our minds, feelings, choices etc... and so do other people. Which is why things can change course. Lots of religions and philosophy delve into these aspects of free will. It is also why spells and curses and all that hocus pocus is bs. You can't take away another person's free will to choose, or lock down a single outcome to your desire. It also means if a reader tells you 100 percent something will happen, or gives impossible guarantees... that they are revealing they are lying/ fake. Those kind of promises completely defy the nature of free will. I trust readers who are honest about free will for this reason, and a good reader will spell out to you different paths and outcomes based on different options and choices you have. Because our choices do matter, and do change things. People don't like to hear that I know. How horrible would it be if we DIDN'T have free will, or any choice for ourselves? This especially is the case when bad things happen such as crimes, abuse, accidents and so forth. It isn't because some ultimate power decided you were predestined/meant to suffer, it is because another human made their own choices to be bad and inflict harm. It would be horrible to live life thinking those things were "meant to happen". Free will isn't selective, it just applies to everyone and everything.
Maybe another way to consider it. In every day life we ourselves can see when it is not a good time to do something, or ask someone something. We wait for when people are in better moods, when things are better timing. For the fact taking action at bad times can harm results. Trying to address something with someone in a bad mood or who doesn't want to talk can make things worse. This is the same thing with readings. A reader may advise to wait or not wait for those very kind of reasons with what they see. Going against that advice can cause different results then what they said would happen if you followed the advice they provided. That doesn't mean the reader was wrong or bad, it means you did something else, and that shifted things. I have seen this happen MANY times for my own self over the years, on all types of situations. I have had readers say if you do it this way, wait for this time such and such will result, and warn me if I do it another way a bad result will happen. My impatience has lead me to not listen, and have the exact bad results I was warned against. I have also followed advice and wanted to kiss the reader for helping me to navigate things at the right times, and ways.
I think for some people believing they can do what they want without recourse because things are set in stone.... is a way to not be accountable for personal actions, or consider the feelings, desires, and choices of others (and how that factors in).
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Free will is the opposite of something set in stone. People shift and change moods, mindsets, directions all the time, which also changes outcomes on countless things big and small. A couple can start a marriage believing they utterly love that person and will spend their whole lives devoted to them, but a couple years later no-longer can stand them. Free will just means we are not locked to some single pre-destined result outside of our choice and control. We have the ability to change our minds, feelings, choices etc... and so do other people. Which is why things can change course. Lots of religions and philosophy delve into these aspects of free will. It is also why spells and curses and all that hocus pocus is bs. You can't take away another person's free will to choose, or lock down a single outcome to your desire. It also means if a reader tells you 100 percent something will happen, or gives impossible guarantees... that they are revealing they are lying/ fake. Those kind of promises completely defy the nature of free will. I trust readers who are honest about free will for this reason, and a good reader will spell out to you different paths and outcomes based on different options and choices you have. Because our choices do matter, and do change things. People don't like to hear that I know. How horrible would it be if we DIDN'T have free will, or any choice for ourselves? This especially is the case when bad things happen such as crimes, abuse, accidents and so forth. It isn't because some ultimate power decided you were predestined/meant to suffer, it is because another human made their own choices to be bad and inflict harm. It would be horrible to live life thinking those things were "meant to happen". Free will isn't selective, it just applies to everyone and everything.
Maybe another way to consider it. In every day life we ourselves can see when it is not a good time to do something, or ask someone something. We wait for when people are in better moods, when things are better timing. For the fact taking action at bad times can harm results. Trying to address something with someone in a bad mood or who doesn't want to talk can make things worse. This is the same thing with readings. A reader may advise to wait or not wait for those very kind of reasons with what they see. Going against that advice can cause different results then what they said would happen if you followed the advice they provided. That doesn't mean the reader was wrong or bad, it means you did something else, and that shifted things. I have seen this happen MANY times for my own self over the years, on all types of situations. I have had readers say if you do it this way, wait for this time such and such will result, and warn me if I do it another way a bad result will happen. My impatience has lead me to not listen, and have the exact bad results I was warned against. I have also followed advice and wanted to kiss the reader for helping me to navigate things at the right times, and ways.
I think for some people believing they can do what they want without recourse because things are set in stone.... is a way to not be accountable for personal actions, or consider the feelings, desires, and choices of others (and how that factors in).
Freewill is an illusion. someone thinking they have freewill has the destiny of believing so. I usually don't like arguing so don't misunderstand me. I respect your point of view but I think we're all capable of concluding if we don't eat we will be hungry later. You might change your mind when a reader blames that you held on to time frame too tight that's why prediction didn't pass. It wasn't them but it was us. They changed their mind, they're very stubborn...blah blah these are all bs that these readers use to cover up their failed predictions.
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Free will is the opposite of something set in stone. People shift and change moods, mindsets, directions all the time, which also changes outcomes on countless things big and small. A couple can start a marriage believing they utterly love that person and will spend their whole lives devoted to them, but a couple years later no-longer can stand them. Free will just means we are not locked to some single pre-destined result outside of our choice and control. We have the ability to change our minds, feelings, choices etc... and so do other people. Which is why things can change course. Lots of religions and philosophy delve into these aspects of free will. It is also why spells and curses and all that hocus pocus is bs. You can't take away another person's free will to choose, or lock down a single outcome to your desire. It also means if a reader tells you 100 percent something will happen, or gives impossible guarantees... that they are revealing they are lying/ fake. Those kind of promises completely defy the nature of free will. I trust readers who are honest about free will for this reason, and a good reader will spell out to you different paths and outcomes based on different options and choices you have. Because our choices do matter, and do change things. People don't like to hear that I know. How horrible would it be if we DIDN'T have free will, or any choice for ourselves? This especially is the case when bad things happen such as crimes, abuse, accidents and so forth. It isn't because some ultimate power decided you were predestined/meant to suffer, it is because another human made their own choices to be bad and inflict harm. It would be horrible to live life thinking those things were "meant to happen". Free will isn't selective, it just applies to everyone and everything.
Maybe another way to consider it. In every day life we ourselves can see when it is not a good time to do something, or ask someone something. We wait for when people are in better moods, when things are better timing. For the fact taking action at bad times can harm results. Trying to address something with someone in a bad mood or who doesn't want to talk can make things worse. This is the same thing with readings. A reader may advise to wait or not wait for those very kind of reasons with what they see. Going against that advice can cause different results then what they said would happen if you followed the advice they provided. That doesn't mean the reader was wrong or bad, it means you did something else, and that shifted things. I have seen this happen MANY times for my own self over the years, on all types of situations. I have had readers say if you do it this way, wait for this time such and such will result, and warn me if I do it another way a bad result will happen. My impatience has lead me to not listen, and have the exact bad results I was warned against. I have also followed advice and wanted to kiss the reader for helping me to navigate things at the right times, and ways.
I think for some people believing they can do what they want without recourse because things are set in stone.... is a way to not be accountable for personal actions, or consider the feelings, desires, and choices of others (and how that factors in).
Certainly while some things are set in stone, A good reader will be able to tell you what moves someone will make, so when a good reader gives a time frame for communication, it will (or at least, 'should') happen, regardless, because they're not going off of "intentions", they're literally getting what WILL happen. If someone has free will, then it can be argued, that, if a good reader says that they'll turn left, and then right, and then fly up, you can be assured that, that will happen. It's the whole debate of "Free will changes the outcome" (which I find to be an excuse.) vs "Free will CREATES the prediction." It's not that they're choosing a separate path. It's that the timeframe for them to reach out, has almost been 'scooped' from the future, and seen in advance, and every action in between will ultimately lead up to that, and the actions taken, will be free will. Yona was telling me that a good reader will be able to tell what will happen, even though free will exists. So it's not that they 'might reach out if they go that route', it's more that they will go that route, and it's not so much predestined, as much as it is "looking ahead to see what they'll do".
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Did they reply? I feel like contact is when they speak to you, regardless of who intitates it. That’s the way I’ve always seen it
This is a good point. Several Psychics predicted me contact in March. It did not happen. However, after several months, I wrote to him in March and no reply. I am wondering if it's counted? Probably not!
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Did they reply? I feel like contact is when they speak to you, regardless of who intitates it. That’s the way I’ve always seen it
This is a good point. Several Psychics predicted me contact in March. It did not happen. However, after several months, I wrote to him in March and no reply. I am wondering if it's counted? Probably not!
I would still say no. Might I ask who said March?
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Did they reply? I feel like contact is when they speak to you, regardless of who intitates it. That’s the way I’ve always seen it
This is a good point. Several Psychics predicted me contact in March. It did not happen. However, after several months, I wrote to him in March and no reply. I am wondering if it's counted? Probably not!
I would still say no. Might I ask who said March?
Kisha, Mattie, Kira, lotus of light, Tara, ... almost all of them lol
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@Josh: Yona also said but she also emphasized that her timing is just guess and I should not count on that. But she believed contact happens a couple of months after new year, around March.
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different readers read contact differently. Next time you chat with them, ask them to specify. I remember my POI was posting stuff on social media once and it felt like it was for me and some readers told me I would have contact around that time so I asked the readers and they said that that was it. lol! so you can never really tell. sorry:(
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different readers read contact differently. Next time you chat with them, ask them to specify. I remember my POI was posting stuff on social media once and it felt like it was for me and some readers told me I would have contact around that time so I asked the readers and they said that that was it. lol! so you can never really tell. sorry:(
Interesting :)
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different readers read contact differently. Next time you chat with them, ask them to specify. I remember my POI was posting stuff on social media once and it felt like it was for me and some readers told me I would have contact around that time so I asked the readers and they said that that was it. lol! so you can never really tell. sorry:(
I agree becuz around the time frame given sometimes i would get a like or a comment on my post lol etc. but my recent reading the advisor was very specfic so i'm happy about that .
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Did they reply? I feel like contact is when they speak to you, regardless of who intitates it. That’s the way I’ve always seen it
yes
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I’m happy for you ☺️
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I believe free will can affect a time frame
I believe in alternate realities.
If I decided to stay in instead of go out and my poi decided to go to a coffee shop I typically visit well on that current time frame your contact has been delayed. However if you continued as planned and go to the coffee shop and they decide to go as well there you go. The opposite can happen as well you both stay home or they decide to stay home and you go out
Yes things can change an outcome. What if you said yes instead of no. This will happen but if you said no then that will happen
I always go with an open mind that if I continue on the path I’m on I’ll most likely reach their prediction
If I take matters into my on hands I can change it
Why bother? Because you can still see what happens either way. On the current path this will happen but you can very well change your path
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i think that if you decide to contact them then the original prediction is null and void since you decided to reach out. Typically these types of questions are asked in the manner that if I dont reach out when will they so if you get a contact date but you decide to contact them before well then you made that prediction happen. its tricky because if you get a prediction date and you contact them around that time, would you have contacted them originally had you not heard that prediction in the first place? i don't think that contacting can change an overall prediction by that much but it does affect the more smaller ones if that makes sense.
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i think that if you decide to contact them then the original prediction is null and void since you decided to reach out. Typically these types of questions are asked in the manner that if I dont reach out when will they so if you get a contact date but you decide to contact them before well then you made that prediction happen. its tricky because if you get a prediction date and you contact them around that time, would you have contacted them originally had you not heard that prediction in the first place? i don't think that contacting can change an overall prediction by that much but it does affect the more smaller ones if that makes sense.
I agree
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i think that if you decide to contact them then the original prediction is null and void since you decided to reach out. Typically these types of questions are asked in the manner that if I dont reach out when will they so if you get a contact date but you decide to contact them before well then you made that prediction happen. its tricky because if you get a prediction date and you contact them around that time, would you have contacted them originally had you not heard that prediction in the first place? i don't think that contacting can change an overall prediction by that much but it does affect the more smaller ones if that makes sense.
someone told me that i would contact someone within x amount of time and i was like yeah right. im never...
low and behold some information came to me that i felt needed to be passed to them so I had to. i mean in essence i could have said nope but i really felt like the info was important enough to break no contact
so i get what you mean in a sense.
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In my experience giving and getting readings over the last 8 years, I believe free will is often an excuse for weak psychics who want to justify their failure for not making solid predictions.
Free will does make something happen sooner or later-- we all can reach our destined paths through countless of ways. But if something is destined to be, it will be and if it's not it won't happen at all. Free will can only change its timeframe.
Freewill can also be applied to smaller predictions e.g will I go on that family trip on Friday? where decisions are taken almost spontaneously.
But for all bigger life events e.g the person that you'll have a long-term relationship with or if and whom you'll marry, and if you'll have children or what is your ultimate career path, there is no free will excuse here and I wouldn't personally believe any psychic that tells me otherwise. If they can't predict a big event like this and give me the free will excuse, it means that they were simply not connected.
Ultimately, we can delay or speed up certain outcomes or maybe change the ways these happen but some things are predetermined ever since our birth and no amount of "free will" can totally change this.
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In my experience giving and getting readings over the last 8 years, I believe free will is often an excuse for weak psychics who want to justify their failure for not making solid predictions.
Ding, ding, ding, ding. It's just a weak psychic. Period.
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In my experience giving and getting readings over the last 8 years, I believe free will is often an excuse for weak psychics who want to justify their failure for not making solid predictions.
Free will does make something happen sooner or later-- we all can reach our destined paths through countless of ways. But if something is destined to be, it will be and if it's not it won't happen at all. Free will can only change its timeframe.
Freewill can also be applied to smaller predictions e.g will I go on that family trip on Friday? where decisions are taken almost spontaneously.
But for all bigger life events e.g the person that you'll have a long-term relationship with or if and whom you'll marry, and if you'll have children or what is your ultimate career path, there is no free will excuse here and I wouldn't personally believe any psychic that tells me otherwise. If they can't predict a big event like this and give me the free will excuse, it means that they were simply not connected.
Ultimately, we can delay or speed up certain outcomes or maybe change the ways these happen but some things are predetermined ever since our birth and no amount of "free will" can totally change this.
This is exactly what I came here to say.
There are certain things that your soul came here to do - the bigger life events, like you say. So, if you are meant to marry that person, or have that house, or work with children, etc... then those should be things that a psychic can pick up on and that would not change in any way other than the timeframe it takes to get to those moments.
I was thinking about it today in regard to my POI... I used to fret about when to contact/text, if I didn't whether it would change things drastically, etc... the way I look at it now, I go mostly with my gut. I consider how I feel, what he may be feeling, etc and go from there. If things are meant to work out long term, they will!
I also think the more worry energy you put into things the more you can change the vibe/connection. But even so, I think if you are meant to be with someone this won't make a huge difference in the long run.
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A Psychic sees how things are laid out and what is likely to happen. Some paths a Psychic sees can seem very solid, others not so. Why? If the people involved are unstable, unbalanced and so therefore unpredictable. A Psychic can see that things can work out but not if one of you acts in a way that disrupts that path. For example, the Psychic tells you that space is being taken and needed but the other person is thinking of you, dont then go and blast their phone or harass their new girlfriend or stalk them and then think the path the Psychic saw will be unchanged. You are not controlled by a Psychic, you have free will. A Psychic sees a potential path but it doesnt control you or the other person. You have the ability to mess it up or keep things calm by your actions. Not fair on yourself or a Psychic to think that regardless of what you say or do the same result will happen. We drive the energy around us, we do, the Psychic reads that but doesnt control it.