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Relationship Psychology Discussions => The Vent => Topic started by: Nottakingthebait on February 28, 2014, 12:08:26 AM
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I have struggled for the past few days with what to post, please be patient with me because this is going to be long.
DISCLAIMER, PLEASE NOTE: The statements written are my experience for a service that I chose to call and use. My experience with these advisors may not be the same as yours, these are my opinions based on information give by the advisor. The intention is not to (including but not limited to) defame, slander, or hurt any advisor mentioned in my review.
I have not had a reading in a year, many of you know my back story and the reasons why I have not had readings. I came to forum at the inception and did not participate, I left for a while and then came back a year later. I didn't want to believe that even though small predictions were manifesting nothing large was happening for anyone. A year later some of the original members were still here writing reviews, and a lot of new members joined the forum. Here we are 2014, three years later and some of the original members are still here, check-in from time to time, but rarely post anymore. The reality of why the forum members do not post about the final outcome finally hit me today, and it was a very tearful day for me. Many members were active with their story, then they just never came back. I spent a few hours today reminding myself of some of the heartbreaking stories that were shared here in 2011, the outcomes were never posted because the predictions did not manifest.
Recently I went through a relationship issue, something I have not called a reader about...I should have known from my past experience with readers, I should have learned my lesson then but I guess I needed a Band-Aid. I will not go into specific details surrounding this but I the outcome is right in front of me and 99.8% are wrong. I have heard how guilty he feels, how he misses me, he does not know how to approach me, he is not enjoying his life, and anything else you can imagine. I knew better than to believe this, if someone feels this way they will make sure you know. I found out that he is seeing someone, so of course I called the ones that I "trust" back to fill them in on this because most did not see it coming. I heard it is a fling, money motivated, business strategy, not emotional connection, will not last...blah, blah, blah. The logical side of me knew this was not right, after all I have known this man for several years...but what is logical about a psychic reading? Nothing.
Yesterday I found out that not only is he seeing her in a committed relationship but they are on vacation visiting her Mom and Stepfather. Does this sound like a fling? I think not. There are other details that I have shared with some of you but I prefer to keep them off forum.
I have a very long list of who I read with but Im going to touch on a few now and the rest later, all of this makes me sick. I ended up in the hospital again because of the stress and disappointment...yet again. None of this is worth it, these readings are dangerous and more than not they are usually wrong.
Msdream228: This was the biggest bunch of BS I have ever had anyone tell me, she didn't get anything on her own. I question all of you who have read with her on keen because of the wonderful things she got for you. My situation should have been a easy read for a gifted reader, not so with her. I was told how much he misses me, he is depressed, he has composed emails and text but was to afraid to send them. She did NOT pick up his relationship or other important details that I can not put here, that she should have if she was gifted. She told me he and I would be married by the end of the year LOL.
Mistress Voice Reader: Did not pick up the relationship he is in, I told her...she said he is not emotionally connected to her and that they would have a fight around valentines day....lol. Contact predictions did not happen. I called her back and she changed her story to they are moving fast together because that is how the girl operates...are you kidding me right now?!!
Diosa: I don't know what the hell happened with this reading but she told me I could have contact March/April or May/June or July...but it could be September. I asked her why she left out August lol. This was terrible
Ann Queen of Cups18: None of her contact predictions happened, but she did get a few things correct along the way. Her outcome was very positive, but nothing happened.
Ladypersephone: She got the girl on her own, but Im not sure if it is because I called her several times and told her that nothing happened...maybe she assumed? I don't know. She did get some details but her positive outcome did not happen and as I have said he is in another relationship.
Aries Intuition: Is/was the most accurate, she is not perfect but she did see some of the important things that no one else saw. Kisha did not see the other girl as significant and still stands by that, but I know differently. Kisha has pushed timelines further and further with each call, the outcome has changed since I filled her in. BUT she has been very accurate with general readings for me, she gets things right that are going on around me or people involving me. Kisha is not good with specific people questions, if the person you want to know about is going to be around it will show up in the general read. Kisha is not perfect, but I figured her reading style out and the general readings are accurate. I would read with her again, she is one of two that I would read with.
Yona Farrell: Accurately predicted what was going to happen before it happened. I was shocked when it did happen, but she still sees further down the road a reconciliation...not happening. The first reading she saw things better around March, this last reading the time is now July August. Yona got most of the details surrounding the situation accurate, this last reading was off the charts good....she is the ONLY one who picked up a medical procedure that I will be having. She offered some very crazy predictions and if they happen I will update...but what she suggested is not how I roll. She read my career with excellence. Yona is one of the two I would read with again.
Carmellady64: Very accurate with details, some stuff was crazy accurate. Predictions were for the end of this month, when I called her back last week time had moved to March.
Hilary80: Accurate details, but some things she said wouldn't happen did. I will give her credit the details that she got were not good guesses they were specific and details that I know to be true. She didn't hold back and gave me the cold hard truth about what an a##hole this guy is. I would consider reading with her again
Stephanies Guided Tarot: Wrong all the way around, I liked her and she did get some details correct but not enough to say I would read with her again.
Cookie: I should have learned with her after I bought her a Mercedes and a house lol, she is a good remote viewer but you don't know how the information she is giving relates to you or anything you need to know. She sold me an ocean in the desert last time, and this time was no different. I called her back to tell her that I found out what is going on, her response to me was people change their mind. I was so pissed and hurt, and this is not the first time she has done something like this to me.
Mystikka: She was right for me before and I don't know about this time. She was kind of general with details.
Lady Jenna: I can say she got the whole situation on her own, right down to how things went down. She for sure got details that I know to be true. I don't believe in predictions anymore so her positive ones I am ignoring.
AdvisorM71: I don't know I deleted her notes and a bunch more because I was so pissed. I know she gave a positive outcome and that is not the case
Ask Peg: She got the other girl but felt he is trapped lol, what the hell no one is ever trapped. contact predictions did not happen
Spiritminded: Realistic but I don't remember I deleted her notes too.
Mystic Raven11: I asked my question and got two different answers and then she said "anything else?" And then just went off in left field lol. Prediciton things will turn around at the end of the year lol whatever
Barbar4846: Accurately gave me the girls birth sign, he childs birth sign and details that are relevant. Nothing she predicts happens but if you want the details she gives them, and she gave them to me before I knew anything was going on.
Carmencam: Two different readings, first one positive on keen...then I called her private number and the reading took a nose dive a complete 180. She told me I will meet my husband and know I just met him??? WTF, I don't want a husband.
Pat58: She got some small details, but totally wrong wrong wrong and she lies!
There were so many more and one day I will review them all, but this upsets me and I just cant do it right now.
I don't know why I felt this time would be different, and I don't know why I felt out of 1200 members that my predictions would come true...the outcomes do NOT happen and I know this.
I could have save myself a lot of money over the past few months! The reality is what you see...if he blocks you, he doesn't want to hear from you, if he is with someone else he has moved on, if he doesn't call he isn't concerned.
Accept what is, this is reality. Emotions and Feelings lie to you, don't believe them! Believe actions or the lack thereof.
Pretty much everyone sold me the reconciliation fantasy, it didn't happen. I, like synergy, am moving on from this and I know I have learned my lesson this time.
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Love ya Kicking
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@KTH....I am sorry you are going through this, you deserve much better. I feel for you as I too have been down this road many times. In time your heart will heal......wishing you the very best..... :)
I have struggled for the past few days with what to post, please be patient with me because this is going to be long.
DISCLAIMER, PLEASE NOTE: The statements written are my experience for a service that I chose to call and use. My experience with these advisors may not be the same as yours, these are my opinions based on information give by the advisor. The intention is not to (including but not limited to) defame, slander, or hurt any advisor mentioned in my review.
I have not had a reading in a year, many of you know my back story and the reasons why I have not had readings. I came to forum at the inception and did not participate, I left for a while and then came back a year later. I didn't want to believe that even though small predictions were manifesting nothing large was happening for anyone. A year later some of the original members were still here writing reviews, and a lot of new members joined the forum. Here we are 2014, three years later and some of the original members are still here, check-in from time to time, but rarely post anymore. The reality of why the forum members do not post about the final outcome finally hit me today, and it was a very tearful day for me. Many members were active with their story, then they just never came back. I spent a few hours today reminding myself of some of the heartbreaking stories that were shared here in 2011, the outcomes were never posted because the predictions did not manifest.
Recently I went through a relationship issue, something I have not called a reader about...I should have known from my past experience with readers, I should have learned my lesson then but I guess I needed a Band-Aid. I will not go into specific details surrounding this but I the outcome is right in front of me and 99.8% are wrong. I have heard how guilty he feels, how he misses me, he does not know how to approach me, he is not enjoying his life, and anything else you can imagine. I knew better than to believe this, if someone feels this way they will make sure you know. I found out that he is seeing someone, so of course I called the ones that I "trust" back to fill them in on this because most did not see it coming. I heard it is a fling, money motivated, business strategy, not emotional connection, will not last...blah, blah, blah. The logical side of me knew this was not right, after all I have known this man for several years...but what is logical about a psychic reading? Nothing.
Yesterday I found out that not only is he seeing her in a committed relationship but they are on vacation visiting her Mom and Stepfather. Does this sound like a fling? I think not. There are other details that I have shared with some of you but I prefer to keep them off forum.
I have a very long list of who I read with but Im going to touch on a few now and the rest later, all of this makes me sick. I ended up in the hospital again because of the stress and disappointment...yet again. None of this is worth it, these readings are dangerous and more than not they are usually wrong.
Msdream228: This was the biggest bunch of BS I have ever had anyone tell me, she didn't get anything on her own. I question all of you who have read with her on keen because of the wonderful things she got for you. My situation should have been a easy read for a gifted reader, not so with her. I was told how much he misses me, he is depressed, he has composed emails and text but was to afraid to send them. She did NOT pick up his relationship or other important details that I can not put here, that she should have if she was gifted. She told me he and I would be married by the end of the year LOL.
Mistress Voice Reader: Did not pick up the relationship he is in, I told her...she said he is not emotionally connected to her and that they would have a fight around valentines day....lol. Contact predictions did not happen. I called her back and she changed her story to they are moving fast together because that is how the girl operates...are you kidding me right now?!!
Diosa: I don't know what the hell happened with this reading but she told me I could have contact March/April or May/June or July...but it could be September. I asked her why she left out August lol. This was terrible
Ann Queen of Cups18: None of her contact predictions happened, but she did get a few things correct along the way. Her outcome was very positive, but nothing happened.
Ladypersephone: She got the girl on her own, but Im not sure if it is because I called her several times and told her that nothing happened...maybe she assumed? I don't know. She did get some details but her positive outcome did not happen and as I have said he is in another relationship.
Aries Intuition: Is/was the most accurate, she is not perfect but she did see some of the important things that no one else saw. Kisha did not see the other girl as significant and still stands by that, but I know differently. Kisha has pushed timelines further and further with each call, the outcome has changed since I filled her in. BUT she has been very accurate with general readings for me, she gets things right that are going on around me or people involving me. Kisha is not good with specific people questions, if the person you want to know about is going to be around it will show up in the general read. Kisha is not perfect, but I figured her reading style out and the general readings are accurate. I would read with her again, she is one of two that I would read with.
Yona Farrell: Accurately predicted what was going to happen before it happened. I was shocked when it did happen, but she still sees further down the road a reconciliation...not happening. The first reading she saw things better around March, this last reading the time is now July August. Yona got most of the details surrounding the situation accurate, this last reading was off the charts good....she is the ONLY one who picked up a medical procedure that I will be having. She offered some very crazy predictions and if they happen I will update...but what she suggested is not how I roll. She read my career with excellence. Yona is one of the two I would read with again.
Carmellady64: Very accurate with details, some stuff was crazy accurate. Predictions were for the end of this month, when I called her back last week time had moved to March.
Hilary80: Accurate details, but some things she said wouldn't happen did. I will give her credit the details that she got were not good guesses they were specific and details that I know to be true. She didn't hold back and gave me the cold hard truth about what an a##hole this guy is. I would consider reading with her again
Stephanies Guided Tarot: Wrong all the way around, I liked her and she did get some details correct but not enough to say I would read with her again.
Cookie: I should have learned with her after I bought her a Mercedes and a house lol, she is a good remote viewer but you don't know how the information she is giving relates to you or anything you need to know. She sold me an ocean in the desert last time, and this time was no different. I called her back to tell her that I found out what is going on, her response to me was people change their mind. I was so pissed and hurt, and this is not the first time she has done something like this to me.
Mystikka: She was right for me before and I don't know about this time. She was kind of general with details.
Lady Jenna: I can say she got the whole situation on her own, right down to how things went down. She for sure got details that I know to be true. I don't believe in predictions anymore so her positive ones I am ignoring.
AdvisorM71: I don't know I deleted her notes and a bunch more because I was so pissed. I know she gave a positive outcome and that is not the case
Ask Peg: She got the other girl but felt he is trapped lol, what the hell no one is ever trapped. contact predictions did not happen
Spiritminded: Realistic but I don't remember I deleted her notes too.
Mystic Raven11: I asked my question and got two different answers and then she said "anything else?" And then just went off in left field lol. Prediciton things will turn around at the end of the year lol whatever
Barbar4846: Accurately gave me the girls birth sign, he childs birth sign and details that are relevant. Nothing she predicts happens but if you want the details she gives them, and she gave them to me before I knew anything was going on.
Carmencam: Two different readings, first one positive on keen...then I called her private number and the reading took a nose dive a complete 180. She told me I will meet my husband and know I just met him??? WTF, I don't want a husband.
Pat58: She got some small details, but totally wrong wrong wrong and she lies!
There were so many more and one day I will review them all, but this upsets me and I just cant do it right now.
I don't know why I felt this time would be different, and I don't know why I felt out of 1200 members that my predictions would come true...the outcomes do NOT happen and I know this.
I could have save myself a lot of money over the past few months! The reality is what you see...if he blocks you, he doesn't want to hear from you, if he is with someone else he has moved on, if he doesn't call he isn't concerned.
Accept what is, this is reality. Emotions and Feelings lie to you, don't believe them! Believe actions or the lack thereof.
Pretty much everyone sold me the reconciliation fantasy, it didn't happen. I, like synergy, am moving on from this and I know I have learned my lesson this time.
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I'm sorry you're going through this and yes, I've been there too.
The physical reality always trumps any psychic take.
Be good to yourself and give yourself time to heal.
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kth as if you were writing my story. i thought i'm no longer going to post here cause i came to the same conclusion. just recently i discovered that ALL THE READINGS I HAD were bs. same totally same stories - he is depressed, stuck, he loves you doesn't love her, he is used to her...hmmm...really?
reality is that:
1. if a guy is into you then he will make sure you know - that's a fact. you don't have to call psychics to find out
2. if he has gf and if he is soo unhappy as psychics say then even my logic tells me noone stays in unhappy relationship at least not for long. the guy is clearly not that unhappy and is getting something out of the relationship regardless of what it is.
3. if a guy has not contacted you for some time it really should be a sign to move on. calling psychics nonstop asking for contact - what's the point? call me i can guess the same dates for you and then tell you ooh hun he had it written down but is afraid to contact you. i know now that if a guy didn't contact me i would at least try to find out what happens. if he does not respond then i have to move on. simple.
i know a lot of original memebers do not post. i'm not original member i did join later however i have been calling psychics for 2 years and also like you almost everybody saw he will break up with his gf (timeframes pushed and now they are planning to move in together - nice one) and seeing us together.
let me tell you something - us together will never happen. i started to respect myself now i recon i'm in the acceptance phase where i know this guy does not deserve my love. yes i miss him, i still might hold feelings but i know i will never allow him to be my bf in future. i am to precious to be the other woman and he hurt me to much for this relationship to ever work. plus my question will always be- he cheated on her with other women, what on earth makes me think he would not cheat on me? lololol of course he would...
i don't know why we reach out to psychics. i can guarantee you people who do not reach out psychics and break up they go through the healing process faster. only cause they have no psychics telling them there will be reconcilliation, that he loves them and other bull that keeps you holding on.
i am extremely angry at myself for contacting psychics. by holding on i inflicted such a pain on myself that i would not wish upon my worse enemy. i regret holding on i feel it was biggest mistake in my life as a result of this i am in a position where i cannot move on as fast as i can as i work with the ass....
like you it was just a few weeks ago i had that final breakdown where i cried so bad i was almost unable to breathe. i realised that nothing happened, nothing will ever happen and i was lied to in a nasty way and now it's like i have to start from the beginning and heal.
what readings do to you is often mask the pain. when you feel down you have a reading there is 99percent chance that reader tells you he loves you, thinks about you, he thinks he can't have you or is stuck but he loves you very much...o my...what bs - however you are looking for that temporary relief cause you feel anxcious and sad and depressed. and readings do give you that but i have to say its TEMPORARY!..the sadness often creeps up and it's a part of healing process. we have to go trhough the grieving process there is no other way how to move on. i was getting readings to stop the pain. now i know in order to get over the pain i have to go through it directly and not looking for shortcuts by consulting psychics.
i'm really sorry for your pain. as i said i was not going to post anymore because the same reason - nothing solid has come true- the things are literally going opposite direction as predicted.
i am happy to say it's been days since i had last reading. i am not planning to have readings anymore. they completely mess up with your head. you stop listening to your intuition and that makes you make more mistakes. after i stopped i am now starting to feel better :) i was in this hopefully last stage of realisation for 2 full months - crying, not sleeping, not eating. now finally i am feeling better and ready to accept that the asshole i spent so much money for will never be with me but LIFE DOES GO ON. it's not going to stop because we are hurting we have to live it. i was angry at the whole world, at God and at everything for having to go through this. but i can see i did have a choice to end it time ago. didn't listen to my intuition so i'm here now trying to warn new members please please do not have a reading after reading. you have to open your eyes and look at your situation realistically. it is hard. very very hard and i feel for you all but psychic readings for me proved to be one huge ripoff. i don't wanna upset member this is only my own experience.
anyway kth my heart goes out to you. please stay strong, do not consult psychics you did so well. it will be ok, trust me it will. it takes time, lots of effort but you'll get there...really that website baggagereclaim.com is a God sent for me. people's stories opened my eyes. i saw the pattern,the red flags and warning signs i ignored with my ex. now i know better in my next relationship i will not be making same mistakes.
if you need support please don't be afraid to pm me. my online friends helped me a lot, kept me strong and often made me see reality i couldn't see. support network is very important.
in fact i was talking with another member here saying how good it would be to have support network, website or blog for people who are going through similar experience but also having disappointment from psychic readings. that support would be much better then having a reading itself.
apologies for spelling mistakes i was typing fast :)
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It's a personal choice whether someone wishes to trust the information given by a psychic or not. And if you have reached the point where you now question whether psychics have talent, then, by all means disregard the information they offer - that means disregarding all the positive aspects of the readings and negative aspects of the readings and simply rely on what you can determine in reality. If your man is with someone else, reality suggests that there is a 1 in 2 chance he will stay with that person. That also means there is a 1 in 2 chance he'll leave her. Reality also suggests that if you still like your ex and can forgive his transgressions, there is a 1 in 2 chance you will be together again, just as there is a 1 in 2 chance you won't. And finally there is a 1 in 2 chance that you will move beyond this place and onto something new, just as there is a 1 in 2 chance you won't. The numbers don't lie.
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I am sorry for what you have gone through, KTH. Many of us know the feeling all too well. I do believe many of these readers have a gift... they can see the past and present. I have had predictions happen, so there is something to that, but this is potentially do to the probability of an event occuring or because some things don't have as many variables as others. I do think anything dealing with human emotions is difficult to read.
Bark, your math is incorrect. The odds for reconciliation are much worse than simply having a 1 and 2 chance. The way you word it makes sense, but that's not how it works because there are other factors. He can actually meet someone else, she can meet someone else, etc. The odds are not 50%. They are lower.
For what it's worth, I also read with Hilary80 and I think she is REALLY good. Like outrageously good. BUT nothing she predicted happened. I will say though, she saw things there's no way she could've known. Stuff other readers have never seen... incredible details.
I think getting readings is an addiction. Lord knows I would've stopped long time ago considering NONE of my big outcome predictions have happened the way readers said they would. The thing is, I like getting readings. It's kind of sick. Anne even gave me a pretty firm talking to last time I called her. Anyways, that's besides the point. I agree with everyone who says to take a person's action at face value. I will also make a recommendation I have made many times before. Please, set a timeframe. Do not wait for someone for YEARS. Tell yourself that if you don't hear from him by ## days or months, then you are letting go and not making another call about them. It's not worth it. I could have a driveway full of cars had I stopped calling years ago.
I want to point out (and some of you may remember this) I started calling psychics years ago about a man I used to refer to as "J". Many readers said we would reconcile, get married... the whole nine yards. You know what happened? He ended up marrying another woman we worked with!!! He secretly dated her for 2 months and married her!!! I do still have a certain liking and favoring for Kisha and LadyP because they were two of the VERY FEW who told me he would never come back. Cookie and Barbara (I mention them specifically because they are popular) told me I would marry that man. After he married our coworker, I called them and they told me it would shortly end in divorce. He doesn't love her. It was an impulsive mistake. I could still be waiting for him to this day if I hadn't had accepted reality. Guess what? They're still married. Happily. I've run into them at happy hours. I see them eating lunch together. They are still married.
I didn't marry C either. He straight up told me he can't be with a woman with two young children. There was not one reader who told me he had those concerns. Not one.
This last situation I was in... I was told by many that this man would take a certain dramatic action to change his current situation. Nope. He didn't. He told me he WON'T.
Lesson: Readers are wrong. They get stuff. But the future hasn't happened. What makes us think they will know? They can't and they don't.
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Syn,
My math is NOT incorrect. There is an equal (=) chance that a relationship with an other person will fail, just as there is an equal chance (=) that it will be successful. There is an equal chance (=) that he will come back, just as there is an equal (=) chance he will not. Bark, your math is incorrect. The odds for reconciliation are much worse than simply having a 1 and 2 chance. The way you word it makes sense, but that's not how it works because there are other factors. He can actually meet someone else, she can meet someone else, etc. The odds are not 50%. They are lower.
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The numbers are not accurate, and numbers do not form an accurate equation when applied to relationships.
Do not trust anything these psychics tell you, they may get details but the happy outcomes NEVER happen. The stories here on the forum should be proof enough.
I am just sharing my horror story, maybe someone here will get the outcome they desire. With that said, there are approximately 1200 members here, maybe one or two have report an outcome that was favorable. If numbers are how you are gauging the probability of a favorable outcome then perhaps consider those odds.
I know my post will not resonate with some here, but my post is very familiar if you read the forum. Every member will move at their own pace and choose how long they stay in this nightmare, but this is my second go around and again I am here posting the disappointment, foolishness, defeat, and sadness surrounding these readings.
It's a personal choice whether someone wishes to trust the information given by a psychic or not. And if you have reached the point where you now question whether psychics have talent, then, by all means disregard the information they offer - that means disregarding all the positive aspects of the readings and negative aspects of the readings and simply rely on what you can determine in reality. If your man is with someone else, reality suggests that there is a 1 in 2 chance he will stay with that person. That also means there is a 1 in 2 chance he'll leave her. Reality also suggests that if you still like your ex and can forgive his transgressions, there is a 1 in 2 chance you will be together again, just as there is a 1 in 2 chance you won't. And finally there is a 1 in 2 chance that you will move beyond this place and onto something new, just as there is a 1 in 2 chance you won't. The numbers don't lie.
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This is absolutely not true. That is not how probability works.
A coin has two sides. When you toss it in the air, it can come up heads or tails. Initially one would say there is a 1 to 2 chance that heads or tails will appear. However, if you toss the coin 50 times that does not mean that heads will come up 25 times and tails would come up 25 times. There are other factors involved. Probability is a guide... not a standard and not an absolute. There is a 50% chance he will come back. There is a 50% chance he will not. When you factor in TIME PASSED, new relationships, etc, it becomes like tossing the coin in there air more than once. The percentage is NOT 50%.
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each time you toss a coin there is an equal (=) chance it will land heads up as it would land tails up. That's my point. And that is irrefutable.
This is absolutely not true. That is not how probability works.
A coin has two sides. When you toss it in the air, it can come up heads or tails. Initially one would say there is a 1 to 2 chance that heads or tails will appear. However, if you toss the coin 50 times that does not mean that heads will come up 25 times and tails would come up 25 times. There are other factors involved. Probability is a guide... not a standard and not an absolute. There is a 50% chance he will come back. There is a 50% chance he will not. When you factor in TIME PASSED, new relationships, etc, it becomes like tossing the coin in there air more than once. The percentage is NOT 50%.
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Syn,
Respectfully, and again, I disagree. This is not true at all. Each time a coin is tossed there is an equal chance of it landing head up or tails up, NO MATTER how often it is tossed, the chance is still EQUAL that it lands heads up or tails up, BECAUSE for each coin toss there are only 2 likely outcomes - heads up or tails up. So the chances are 50/50 in each and every coin toss.
You are confounding this. The point I am making is that when given a "yes" or "no" situation your chances of it coming up the way you wish is equal, and that is because there are 2 and only 2 likely outcomes. Yes, or No.
When you factor in TIME PASSED, new relationships, etc, it becomes like tossing the coin in there air more than once. The percentage is NOT 50%.
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It really does not matter what information we receive, the fact are telling us the outcome. If the other person is involved with someone else, living with someone else, and not communicating with us the facts are representing the truth...the outcome is it O V E R! There is no mathematical equation for O V E R.
Joel Osteen says: "Why put a question mark where there is a period"
If someone has not communicated with you for at least six months, has blocked you from social networks, and does not show any action toward you...it is fact they are not coming back. Accepting this is like a nightmare that one can not wake up from. The only hope that lingers is false hope, I would rather have no hope than false hope. As time progresses the truth become clear and the false hope hurts deeper than accepting the reality as it is presented.
So, I pose the question: Why put a question mark where there is a period? The question mark is what triggered my emotional break, depression, sadness, defeat, foolishness and and and!
Syn,
Respectfully, and again, I disagree. This is not true at all. Each time a coin is tossed there is an equal chance of it landing head up or tails up, NO MATTER how often it is tossed, the chance is still EQUAL that it lands heads up or tails up, BECAUSE for each coin toss there are only 2 likely outcomes - heads up or tails up. So the chances are 50/50 in each and every coin toss.
You are confounding this. The point I am making is that when given a "yes" or "no" situation your chances of it coming up the way you wish is equal, and that is because there are 2 and only 2 likely outcomes. Yes, or No.
When you factor in TIME PASSED, new relationships, etc, it becomes like tossing the coin in there air more than once. The percentage is NOT 50%.
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When you gamble, there are odds. If life worked the way you think it does, all odds would be 50/50. Because life isn't black and white, when two teams play, the odds are not always 50%. The odds are influenced by player health, season performance, etc. Likewise when determining odds for a situation to occur, one has to look at all the factors. If I tell my ex never to speak to me again, I am decreasing the odds that he will return. If move to another country, I am decreasing the odds. If YEARS pass since the last contact, the odds decrease as well.
Anyways, KTH is right. Who cares. Reality proves he isn't here. There's a 100% reality that you're not together. 100%.
Plus, when you live your life waiting, you're not living. Go find someone new who will actually talk to you. Not someone who has been silent for years. Odds he will return are decreasing as we speak.
Not to be insensitive, but there was Friday night that chat was FULL. And I sat back and thought, wow. These are intelligent, awesome women. Women who should be living. Women who should be doing something on a Friday night instead of sitting on a psychic forum chat. Now, don't get me wrong. I was there too. But, WTF?! Am I going to meet the love of my life by sitting at home waiting on an ex who isn't coming back, drinking wine, and reviewing readers on a forum? Hell no. Neither will anyone else. Go live life. Sure, maybe your ex will return. Maybe he won't. But at least you're living in the meantime. Or take the money you'd spend on a reading and go pamper yourself instead! You deserve it!!
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What I think you are trying to say is that in psychic readings about relationships being restored there are more than 2 likely outcomes. Actually there aren't. it will either be or not be, Just as in a strict yes/no situation, or head/tails situation, there are ONLY 2 outcomes.
Likewise when determining odds for a situation to occur, one has to look at all the factors. If I tell my ex never to speak to me again, I am decreasing the odds that he will return. If move to another country, I am decreasing the odds.
Exactly - which is why I have always asserted that WE can influence a positive or negative outcome to alter what was predicted. It's not simply a case of a psychic saying something will occur and we can run roughshod over parties involved and expect the same outcome! We play an integral part too. And it is not just a black/white case as telling someone off, or hanging up on them, or being brusque in the supermarket line. It could be hardening of your heart, or a cooling off of a passion - all play a role in the end result.
If YEARS pass since the last contact, the odds decrease as well.
Technically, that doesn't affect the outcome, but years do permit a hardening of the heart, a cooling off of passion; grievances and bitterness, or simply indifference to creep in that DO affect the way we play our role!
Anyways, KTH is right. Who cares. Reality proves he isn't here. There's a 100% reality that you're not together. 100%.
It is all a matter of perception. Reality is, before you met Mr. Wonderful, how was life for you? You were not with him. He was 100% not there. The reality was that a Mr. Wonderful did NOT exist - at that moment.
Perception is all that matters here. If before Mr. Wonderful arrived you continued to say to yourself, "my reality is that a Mr. Wonderful will never be in my life, because look he is not here today" you would have been wrong. Because in a matter of time, along came Mr. Wonderful. I just ask that you consider that....
Plus, when you live your life waiting, you're not living.
Most of the good psychics I have spoken to insist that this is a necessary and integral part of predictions manifesting, by the way. None of them prescribe waiting at all. That's why I have always maintained that we do not do with the information what we are supposed to do with it, and as a result, perhaps we too are responsible for whether a prediction manifests or not.
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I'm glad to read the last post because I do believe, like it or not, as humans we tend to bring data in and analyze it with filters that we choose to use in particular situations. I am not endorsing psychic readings, mind you, but what I am saying is that we have no idea why people that used to post here about exes and stop doing so, have decided not to come back. It could be any of the below. Because they are:
- fed up
- done
- indifferent
- happy
- reconciled
- moved on
- other
All we can do is speculate. There are instances of couples reuniting. Whether those stick or ultimately fail we don't know. But clearly from the prior message and probably many other members that don't post here or are too busy with their lives to do so, there are likely many other cases of it.
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I'd say it is fairly evident there are a difference of opinions here, and those opinions serve the individuals' best interest. Believe in what you need to, but don't feel the need to convince others to adopt your opinion, even if the "numbers" are on your side.
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I know I said I would not post again, but just want to say sorry to Kickingthehabit. Although I still value a select few readers, I give up on them. I think most of us call because we want to be told that everything will be alright, even though reality shows otherwise. I think that is the reason why 90 percent of us don't get what we want in the end...because most of our relationships are dysfunctional in one way or another.
Its pretty clear that a lot of us lack confidence in our lives. The only thing that can help this is counseling and making an effort to apply healthy coping skills when life lets us down. Its the only way. Counting on psychic predictions is living in a dream world. If we keep on attracting jerks, we need to find out what it is about ourselves that is letting it happen...and make an effort to change it.
I too tried Hillary twice and she offered some fantastic details that she couldn't have known. However, she described two different guys that were to show up in my life for a serious relationship. Ends up, the first guy was a friend of a friend that liked me, but I wasn't in anyway attracted to. The other guy she was describing ended up being my personal banker that called me out of the blue for financial dealings...although he did make some real estate suggestions like she said he would. I'm in no way attracted to him. You see? Right, but dead wrong in the end. That is what it comes down to with these readers.
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I honestly don't know where to begin....but Kicking is right.
They're all 99.8% WRONG. I have called and wasted way too much money on false hope. I, at this point have given up. Honest. However, it does become tempting to get that feel good feeling that the guy that dumped me so cruelly, does love me. He misses me. He is so distraught. He never meant it to get to this point. He doesn't know what to do. Really?
Doesn't anyone here think that if he actually felt any of those things he would call me and tell me that? Ok, so maybe they're shy and not accustomed to putting it all out there...so how about a simple "how you doing" text....ummm no. haven't gotten that either. How about Happy Birthday? No? not even that? well, uhhum, time to think about things then, don't you think? He can't even text a Happy Birthday?!?!?! Honestly now. For how many birthdays? Yeah, he's depressed. He's struggling.
I know in my heart that if that were me? Well then I would reach out and tell that person whom I LOVED so much. Again, I guess that's just me, a regular person. But I guess I'm not just a regular person, as I have called psychics and paid them to tell me how much he loved me. Something most regular people do not do. But I never received that call, that so many told me would come. No, that call that they all said was coming, never ever came. And it never will. I know that now. No matter how many phone calls that made me feel better, that he loved me....no, that call will never ever come.
I know I speak only for myself, but also for so many others, that no, that call never came.
If you want to play those timing, gambling games, then go ahead, waste your time doing that. How many bets of phone calls actually paid off? Or rather how many just made you feel able to make it though the night. I don't say that lightly, as I have been there. I am not passing judgment. Some calls have helped me sleep so peacefully. For a night or two.
I cannot validate what some have told me. And yes some have been so spot on, as they say, with past and possibly present. As I add more money to the call.
It's been 15 months for me. Maybe more, or possibly less for you. but has that call come?
I am done with him, and most of all them.... The psychics. They keep you holding on to something that isn't there. It's all just a fantasy. They keep you in what they tell you is real, but it's not. It's just a fantasy. But I finally realized I want REAL. I want real in my life. Not something that isn't there. I want something tangible. Something I can touch.
Heal and move on.
Heal.
I am saying this for me more than anyone else. I am also saying this for anyone who happens across this forum.
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i agree Bella, we can all try and say it's a 50 50 chance. i know a few members who are around but do not post anymore...why? because nothing came true. nothing. if you have a reader telling you your future shouldn't at least something come true? i have not had a single solid prediction come true - none! only a few readers were able to pick up past and present. not a single future prediction happened.
if someone wants to rely on 50/50 chance, it's their decision. the way i see it and that is my own experience no psychic can predict future - NONE OF THEM.
for those who have just discovered psychic world i understand that they have hopes. year ago when some people told me not to read with psychics i didn't listen. i still held hopes..why? because psychics could pick up on present and past i wanted to believe that the future will be as they saw. so i continued readings also to relieve pain. there was a therapeutic side to the readings - as Bella mentioned i often got a reading to get through the night, to be able to calm down and sleep. but this does not change the fact that no predictions happened. 2 years waiting for outcome that was supposed to come 1.5 year ago is enough time for me to wake up and realise that the guy i love will not end up with me and chose a different path. i'm here lost thousands because of him. i feel like a fool for believing crap.
i highly value kicking's feedback. it is honest review of her situation. i did the same because i thought let me not leave the forum without letting everyone know if predictions happened or not. mine did not happen. and clearly many many other people's predictions failed to manifest as well.
the only way is to open your eyes, look at what's in front of you, look at actions - do they match the words? and instead of consulting psychics speak to the guy. see how he feels. if the guy is saying clearly no i can't be with you then it's a no! there's no need to consult psychic for that. heal, move on and if the guy comes back or changes his mind then you can decide what to do. of course there's always a chance for them to come back. most of them do come back in one way or another at some point. it could be that right now it is not the right time for the two of you to be together. who knows...
but important message here what i'm trying to put across is this. do not spend your life waiting for the one person who made you cry, depressed and heartbroken. it will ruin your life. it really will. try and live your life in the meantime, do things for your own growth. i spent 2 years waiting - most of my days were spending at home, in bed with my laptop researching new psychics, checking their reviews and getting readings, crying, thinking of him and feeling low. worst 2 years of my life. you think it got me anywhere???? NOPE...only now i'm realising i have to start living because he's not coming back and life does go on. do not prolong the healing process, don't try to take shortcut, go through the pain because when you do you heal faster. i wish i knew this before. now i'm going through the pain but at the same time i feel like i'm healing, making progress. if you have no friends join meetup.com i did so and i for the first time went out and enjoyed with others with similar problems and i enjoyed it. do something for yourself that does not include him. the more you do the faster you will heal. this does not mean you are closing the door on the person you just look after you first. it's the hardest thing i've had to do...
i'm not bashing any psychics this is my personal experience based on which my PERSONAL OPINION is that absolutely no psychic can see MY future. i allowed them to ruin my life. i don't blame them. i had the choice to call or not call. i made wrong choice and wish i never ever discovered the psychic world.
hope there will be at least one person whose prediction manifest fully. i have not come across a single person yet who was able to confirm that predictions manifested. not even one! so much for 50/50 chance...
honest feedback good or bad is important. thank you KTH for sharing your story with us. wish you LOTS OF STRENGTH and the fastest healing possible. pm me if anything, as i said lot of emotional support is very important and it helped me a lot in my journey.
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Bella and Sagitiria,
I thank you both for confirming your experience with psychics as it is no different than mine. I was in tears as I read both of your posts this morning, I know all to well the disappointment that comes with readings.
Bella, you and I have shared along the way and you have been so supportive even though you were going through so much. I felt every word you wrote and the emotion behind those words.
I am facing reality head on and it is not comfortable, in fact it is very painful. I hope the information I am sharing will help someone heal.
I will keep this short and simple: There are 5 stages of grieving associated with any loss, breakups and letting go of a relationship follow the same process as mourning a death.
Denial- we have all experienced this! Our heart takes the lead as we try to adjust to losing the person we thought we couldn't live without. Even though we know the relationship is over we cant help but entertain the fantasy that somehow it will all work out.
Anger-we project our anger to God, him/her, everyone and anyone that may be involved with the situation. How could this person do this to me? Anger for the other woman/man, anger directed toward friends that are still friends with him/her.
Bargaining-negotiating, threatening, promises. This is the stage when many people look to psychics and/or astrology, yes there is clinical data to back this up!
Depression-Hopelessness is most pervasive and debilitating, It is the thing that leads us to believe that nothing will ever be or feel different than it is right now. Hopelessness makes it feel like you will never move on and that nothing will ever work out for you in the future.
Acceptance-making peace with the loss, this is gradual and sadness will still linger. Making peace with what happened, letting go of the hopes and desires for that particular relationship, and slowly moving forward with your life.
There are no time limits associated with this process, everyone will move at their own pace.
I hope this helps, if the stages of grief are identified the healing process is in motion and as time moves on so do we.
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Kicking!!! I just wanted to say I adore you, lady. You are a rational and loving soul and you call it like you see it. I can not express enough how meaningful your words are to me and thank you for taking the time to review your latest bout with psychics.
This is my second time around with readers and I should also know better, lol! I have yet to have a big picture prediction manifest. If anyone wants to challenge this, fine, go for it. But, the first time I started calling psychics about a relationship crisis was in 2006. I saw that ex for the first time since 2008 six months ago randomly with his new, and perfectly suited for him, girlfriend. She was delightful. According to most (98%) of my readings then he was "the one", my soulmate, we were far from over, he's coming back in 3...I mean 4...I mean 5....you get the idea. Anyway, he's a nice guy but not my guy and at the time I was devastated! hahahaha
Fast forward....my current ex and I have been split well over 2 years now. He moved on quickly, had a new girlfriend 4 months later and has been with her ever since. They live together and seem to be moving forward. Have I had glimpses here and there that he is still attracted to me? Yes. Lots of times. His actions were fleeting and inconsequential. Unlike some, I am socially involved with my ex and see him often. I am lucky or cursed, however you want to perceive it, that I don't have to constantly guess what is happening in his life. I actually see it with my own two eyes. Whether this is his forever girl or not, I don't know, but at this time he is with her and has moved on from me.
According to...oh I'll be generous here...about 94% of my readings he and I should be back together by now and they should have broken up about 10 times. Ce la vie. Does it hurt? F**k yes. I even tear up if I think about too much. But, it's time to put my healing into overdrive and stop this merry-go-round of false hope.
I do believe there are some with a gift, and like Synergy mentioned, the truth is I really do enjoy getting readings. That's my demon to deal with but I have limited my readings severely and am being very selective. For me personally, I am staying away from the platform readers from now on. That's my choice and is mostly based on the anxiety I get from being on a timer, lol.
I agree that everyone heals in their own time and maybe I needed this experience this time around for whatever reason I or the universe deemed it necessary. For any newcomers reading this please understand that psychic readings are a slippery slope to start down so please proceed with caution. ;)
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I know my reply will not be popular, but I am not here for popularity, so here goes. Whatever works for you, personally, is what you have to go with. If it works for Kicking to turn the page and put this in the past, then so be it. It may not work for others, but it works for her.
All I wish to say or contribute to this thread is that hyperbole is hyperbole. "All psychics are", "none of the psychics were", "predictions never", "every prediction is", "100% of predictions", "0% of the members" - these are all hyperbole. And the truth lies somewhere between. What does that mean? It means that while it may appear that psychic predictions are not accurate to some people, it is simply that - a perception by some people. While it might be that former members have NOT come back to report on predictions there are any number of reasons why. One of those reasons could be that their psychic predictions did not manifest, but it could also be for some other reason.
I'll give you an example. I was married once. To a man that I loved dearly. He cheated. They stole everything and the only way I was able to heal was to blog about that experience. I did so daily. I blogged about as the events unfolded, each event, each incident,. day-by-day for years. Until one day I met Mr. Wonderful and the blog - out there in Cyberspace - remains just as it was that day. I never went back to complete it...although events continued to unfold. Although events turned out in my favor. Why? Because my focus was shifted. It didn't mean that nothing worked out in the end. It meant that I was distracted and by the time my life returned to its normal pace and cadence..."that" episode that prompted me to chronicle each experience became less significant.
Perception is everything. I have learned that while reading with psychics. I maintain that it is highly possible that we control whether psychic predictions manifest or not. I believe, and you are all welcome to disagree if you wish, but I believe that in order to see what so many of these talented 6th sense seers can see, it involves a paradigm shift in our own thinking. If we don't do it, chances are it might not become our reality.
So, if I were to advise anything here and today, I would simply say this. Believe what you wish. Accept the reality that is before your eyes, but remember, what you see today is what is here today. Tomorrow is completely a different case. For those of you who feel in order to debunk psychic readings you must face the cold harsh reality that you face today, please do so. But remember statements like "I know 100% he is not coming back" are simple hyperbole. If psychics have no ability to see the future, then what makes you believe you can see it either? Today's reality is today's and not tomorrow's. Open your mind to the possibility that you also cannot possibly know what tomorrow will bring.
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I'm not getting too much into this since I've vowed that I'm not calling anyone except maybe Kisha towards the end of this month, but KTH, you know we all love you. <3 I'm sorry you're going through this all over again.
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Hi my old friends, some of my best friends, and some people I've never had the pleasure of meeting,
My name is Liz and I am a psychic addict who has spent thousands of dollars on the place that I'm currently in (my path was to call psychics in order to stop calling psychics, I guess and as everyone is well aware - it is a very expensive habit/path). This is not calling psychics except for a check in once every couple months because I am, in fact, addicted. I like to hear my ex misses me and is going to break up with his current live in girlfriend. I like to hear these things because I don't like to admit that he may very well be fine and moved on when I still have moments, albeit fleeting at this juncture, where I miss him and certain dynamics of our relationship.
I wanted to post today because this week marks the 1 year mark of not ever hearing from my ex again after the entire ordeal we went thru. I honestly can't believe it's been a year. If you click on my username, and my posts - you can read the whole ordeal/drama for yourself. 2 years of back and forth. 6 years of a relationship. And 2 years of calling for readings that manifested little things and ultimately held me back from all of the happiness and potential life can provide you with. I'm not going to say my ex wouldn't have/or won't come back eventually. Okay - who knows? However, he's had years to make those moves and I couldn't partake in actions that mirrored me disliking myself any longer (you can see it how you want and I will see it how I want. I think I obviously was acting like I didn't like myself). I was miserable when I wouldn't hear from him for days or weeks and was obsessed with my own sadness because we weren't seeing one another. The only happiness I found was when I was calling psychics about him. Or when I was talking to people about the predictions psychics gave me about him. Time moved by so slowly and all I did was try to wish it away so that these predictions would manifest. What a terrible, terrible way to live. Timeframes passed and I stayed in the same place for years. In a holding pattern convinced we were meant to be together because I felt it in my heart and had predictions happen so OF COURSE the bigger stuff would come as well. It didn't come. I'm not saying some version of some truths won't manifest at some point but nothing that the psychics said would ultimately happen has happened within the time frames described or timeframes outside of those time frames.
Ultimately I snapped out of it. It had been a couple months since we had seen one another and I was sick of the excuses. Up until the day we stopped speaking we were communicating regularly and he was telling me he loved me and was going to break up with his gf. He had the opportunity a year ago and he didn't take it. I was sad but I had my answer. I had to take control of my life and destiny and move forward. I believe there are things that are destined and that people can still love us if we are separated and may not be calling us because they are confused or whatever. HOWEVER - you can't will someone else to be with you if they don't really want to. You can choose to stay and wait all you want and think positively and change your mindset and all that but you can't make another person do ANYTHING that they don't want to do.
This was my journey and I'm not sad or regretful for what I have gone thru to get to this place. I'm not even sad to have lost the time and the money. In retrospect, I can't believe how much I led my life based on what I was being told by the psychics I trusted. No matter what anyone says, it does affect our lives. It changes what we think about situations that should be left in the past or are obviously over. If power of thought has so much control over what manifests in our lives then no wonder so many of us spend time thinking about this person and not moving forward. We position our lives in that matter by our thoughts. As soon as I decided to move on and accept my life for reality as opposed to what I was being told by the psychics (hell - what I was even being told by my ex) - I let it go and moved on. I met someone else. I stopped calling psychics. I re-learned how to live in the moment and accept life as it comes. I'm happy again. Even better - after a YEAR of not hearing a PEEP from my ex and being with someone else - I love this other person more than my ex boyfriend. I don't have to call a psychic about my relationship because it's a real relationship based on truth and wanting to be together and building a life. I thought my ex was my soul mate and we were destined to be together since I was 23 years old. I'm 30 now. He was the only man I ever called about. I even thought for the first few months of my current relationship that I could never love anyone like I loved my ex. I promise you that I have been you and FAR WORSE 10000x over. Today I am with a man who loves me and is there for me and I would never in a million years give up to go back to my ex. Never ever ever ever ever. I truly believe now that NOBODY who is worth your life is someone you would constantly have to call a psychic over.
I don't want to be preachy and I don't really have too much of an objective in this. It's your life and you can do whatever the hell you want with it. I didn't have predictions manifest the way I was told and my ex isn't coming back although we did love one another. I didn't change the course of the predictions. When it came time for my ex and his current gf to break up - he didn't want to break up with her and he didn't. So yes, I have had things happen but then they didn't and what does everything else matter then? What do the small predictions manifesting matter if nothing turned out like I was told? The best thing I ever did for myself was move on and stop calling and start living my life again. If you're afraid that you won't meet someone else, or love someone else as much as your ex - I promise you will. I can't express enough the amount my ex bf and I were "soul mates" in every single sense of the word. I love someone else more now than I ever loved him because he shows up and is a man inside this physical world that we are currently living in and I get to be happy in the present as opposed to hoping I will be in the future because someone gifted told me I would be with someone that none of us have any guarantee wants that same thing.
I love you all because I know your hearts and I hope you find some peace in your journey moving forward. Holding on or not. I truly hope everyone does get what they want but sometimes we don’t even get to know what that is until after everything is said and done. I thought my happiness would be getting back together with my ex boyfriend as these psychics saw and it just wasn’t that at all. Do whatever you want. Know that others have been in your situation and use this forum as a sounding board to help you thru whatever you have going on. Don’t attack one another for your opinions. My experience and your experience may have parallels but that doesn’t mean we can draw conclusions from one person’s testament. I can say 100% certainty that psychics are real. I can also say that life is not on their course and they can’t predict the future. I can also say that they are trying to make money and fill in the gaps of what they see with whatever they can to keep you on the phone. They can pick up on pertinent nuances and things that may unfold – but they can’t predict the future. Take everything with a grain of salt and make your life what you want it to be. It's sad when we have to accept we aren't going to get our heart's desire in that moment but God or whatever you subscribe to has a plan that is far better/greater than anything you can even think to ask a psychic about. I promise you.
Be well.
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KTH, you know I pretty much went through the same thing, and have the same conclusions. Even when I started to be interested in someone else (who I'm with now), psychics continued to say my exbf was the one. Some even told me that once he got wind of my new r/s, he'd be right back to claim what was his. He just didn't feel the need to because I was always "there".
This was summer 2011. Reality is this:
IIRC the last time I saw him was August 2011. I remember seeing him on a bike ride but now can't remember if that was 2011 or 12
This man, who was so hurt, confused, scared - all those things that psychics tell us - inserted himself into my marriage in late 2006. If my marriage didn't have issues, it never would have gotten as far as it did, but truth is I had huge issues with my husband and the flattering attention my new found friend gave me was much appreciated. I was trying to figure out how to get out of my marriage by this time anyway.
So he professes his love for me. Hangs around me all the time. Visits me at work. Does events with me. All while I was married. People started to suspect and told him to chill, which made him more determined to spend time with me. This goes on for years.
My marriage ends in 2008. He has never been shy about telling me how he feels and that doesn't stop now. We spent 2009 together, though not officially living together, we still have our own places.
He suddenly stops talking to me in early 2010. Nothing I said to him would get him to talk. I called psychics from June 2010 - Aug 2011. Fed all the same fairytales you were.
We were oddly enough still FB friends (he had 2 accounts), though we rarely commented on or like each others pix or posts in the last couple of years. August 2013, he deleted the account that he was friends with me on, and refriended most of our mutual friends on his "main" account. He has had me blocked on that account since he created it in 2009, when we were together. Funny though, that his profile pix on the account I couldn't see, were often ones he took of himself at my house.
So this man who was inappropriate with me during my marriage (I'm not talking physically, I'm talking the way he acted, even when asked not to), for years, suddenly is too shy to say one little word to me afterwards? Then removes the one impersonal way we could communicate, if he truly cared like they say he does? This man who was by his words and theirs, my soulmate? Best friends? Would always be there for me?
I think not.
My current bf doesn't have a fb account, and I know it would bother him if I plastered his pix online. So there is very little mention of him in my account. IOW that isn't a reason my exbf deleted that account and still has me blocked from his other one.
I'm with you guys - future predictions were 99.8% WRONG
Liz - you posted after while I was. I'm so happy you've found someone. Like you, my I would never go back to my exbf. The guy I am seeing now is so wonderful and tells and shows me daily how much he loves me. He doesn't play any games and I am never guessing how he feels. It's the best r/s I've ever been in and I am grateful every single day that I was able to release the ass that was restricting me from living. Not calling psychics and allowing my life to be lived, helped so much.
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Hi all, once again...
First, I am so truly moved by some of the posts today. They all seem to resonate with me in some way or another. Thank you.
But I would like to say to all the people out there who seem to think that people just don't come back to post anymore, because the guy came back, or they made other decisions, broke their addictions, or whatnot.
What I would like to say to them, is why not PM them? They'll get notice on their email accounts. And MAYBE they'll be able to answer as to why they haven't come back to post. I know I have to a few....There are a lot of original members that still are members. You can email them yourself to find out the WHY. Some go back to 2011. And their membership is still active, which means they'll see if you pm them, even if they don't log on here anymore.
Even look at the membership...see who ever at least posted once. Send them a pm and see what they say. I would love to hear how some people are doing. Where they are in their lives. I too hate the story with no ending. Whether good or bad.
Why not find out first hand? Find out WHY they don't post anymore.
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Bella,
If you are so interested in knowing why all these old members haven't come back, why haven't you PM-ed them, yourself?
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Oh I have pm'd some Bark. Their accounts are still active. So how come you haven't?
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Well Bark, I have PM'ed several original members and like most of us nothing happened that was predicted. The members that did respond have moved on with the lives and this forum is a reminder of where they don't want to be again...I can relate.
This post was not necessary!
Bella,
If you are so interested in knowing why all these old members haven't come back, why haven't you PM-ed them, yourself?
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I love your post Bark and agree 100%.
I know my reply will not be popular, but I am not here for popularity, so here goes. Whatever works for you, personally, is what you have to go with. If it works for Kicking to turn the page and put this in the past, then so be it. It may not work for others, but it works for her.
All I wish to say or contribute to this thread is that hyperbole is hyperbole. "All psychics are", "none of the psychics were", "predictions never", "every prediction is", "100% of predictions", "0% of the members" - these are all hyperbole. And the truth lies somewhere between. What does that mean? It means that while it may appear that psychic predictions are not accurate to some people, it is simply that - a perception by some people. While it might be that former members have NOT come back to report on predictions there are any number of reasons why. One of those reasons could be that their psychic predictions did not manifest, but it could also be for some other reason.
I'll give you an example. I was married once. To a man that I loved dearly. He cheated. They stole everything and the only way I was able to heal was to blog about that experience. I did so daily. I blogged about as the events unfolded, each event, each incident,. day-by-day for years. Until one day I met Mr. Wonderful and the blog - out there in Cyberspace - remains just as it was that day. I never went back to complete it...although events continued to unfold. Although events turned out in my favor. Why? Because my focus was shifted. It didn't mean that nothing worked out in the end. It meant that I was distracted and by the time my life returned to its normal pace and cadence..."that" episode that prompted me to chronicle each experience became less significant.
Perception is everything. I have learned that while reading with psychics. I maintain that it is highly possible that we control whether psychic predictions manifest or not. I believe, and you are all welcome to disagree if you wish, but I believe that in order to see what so many of these talented 6th sense seers can see, it involves a paradigm shift in our own thinking. If we don't do it, chances are it might not become our reality.
So, if I were to advise anything here and today, I would simply say this. Believe what you wish. Accept the reality that is before your eyes, but remember, what you see today is what is here today. Tomorrow is completely a different case. For those of you who feel in order to debunk psychic readings you must face the cold harsh reality that you face today, please do so. But remember statements like "I know 100% he is not coming back" are simple hyperbole. If psychics have no ability to see the future, then what makes you believe you can see it either? Today's reality is today's and not tomorrow's. Open your mind to the possibility that you also cannot possibly know what tomorrow will bring.
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Kicking and Bella,
Why is my post unnecessary? Bella asked me to contact old members, she said she was curious. I am not curious at all. If people are curious as to why older members haven't come back to report then by all means reach out the them and ask, but in the meantime, and this was my whole point, please don't speculate or resort to hyperbole. There's no doubt in my mind, by the way, that some of the members' predictions didn't turn out the way they wished, but certainly not all of them. and finally, there is something we are all supposed to be doing with this information. If we choose not to pay attention to that, we can hardly be surprised when things don't work out the way we expected.
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Give it a flipping rest. I get sick of reading your distorted BS!
I HAVE emailed many that were here and ALL of them that responded said NOTHING HAPPENED!
This has been my case too!!! THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE, NOTHING HAPPENED, THEY WERE ALL WRONG!
STOP EFFING UP MY THREAD! IT IS MY EXPERIENCE! I'm going through enough right now and sorting out how/why I jumped back on this crazy train! The last thing I want to do is come here and read your confrontational, irrational post.
STOP PICKING EVERY GD WORD APART AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO MAKE YOUR HOPES FIT BY RIDICULOUSLY INSERTING THOUGHTS OF FANTASY!
STOP CALLING BELLA OUT BECAUSE YOU ARE PISSED AT HER FOR TRYING TO TALK SOME SENSE INTO YOU!!!
AND STOP POSTING YOUR OPINION AND TRYING TO SAY I AM WRONG ABOUT MY F%*@ING EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!
NO ONE WAS RIGHT!!! NO ONE...PERIOD!!!!!
Kicking and Bella,
Why is my post unnecessary? If people are curious as to why older members haven't come back to report then by all means reach out the them and ask, but in the meantime, and this was my whole point, please don't speculate or resort to hyperbole. There's no doubt in my mind, by the way, that some of the members' predictions didn't turn out the way they wished, but certainly not all.
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I think you are overreacting to my post and your anger is uncalled for. It is quite plain to see that.
And for the record, I am not trying to distort anything. You have spoken with some members that said nothing worked for them. OK. I accept that you spoke to some of the members. That was my point. It does not represent all of the members. And by the way, you objected to my reply to Bella, claiming it was unnecessary but you did not object to Bella who asked the question of me. Is that playing fair? Bella is the one that wants feedback from old members not me. I have no interest in speaking with old members that don't post here anymore. Why take out your frustrations on me? I am not trying to change any of your views at all. But I respectfully ask that you not represent me in your claims. While I have had success with predictions, your mileage may vary.
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Hi all, once again...
First, I am so truly moved by some of the posts today. They all seem to resonate with me in some way or another. Thank you.
But I would like to say to all the people out there who seem to think that people just don't come back to post anymore, because the guy came back, or they made other decisions, broke their addictions, or whatnot.
What I would like to say to them, is why not PM them? They'll get notice on their email accounts. And MAYBE they'll be able to answer as to why they haven't come back to post. I know I have to a few....There are a lot of original members that still are members. You can email them yourself to find out the WHY. Some go back to 2011. And their membership is still active, which means they'll see if you pm them, even if they don't log on here anymore.
Even look at the membership...see who ever at least posted once. Send them a pm and see what they say. I would love to hear how some people are doing. Where they are in their lives. I too hate the story with no ending. Whether good or bad.
Why not find out first hand? Find out WHY they don't post anymore.
Just playing Devil's advocate as many others here like to do...I do not see anywhere in this post that this was directing to any one person. In fact, it seems an invite to everyone and no one specific. As I was included in this invite, I perceived it as a light and non-aggressive post and felt Bella was simply attempting to find even more avenues to find answers to the little mysteries we all or some of us may wonder as to what happened with final outcome for past members. She even clearly states that she herself has done this. Perhaps the invite was for all of us to reach out to any past members we may still currently have or had a rapport with or better yet an invite to the ones of us who are skilled at cold contact. Either way. I do not and did not detect a snarky tone in this post at all.
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Whatever bark. I'm under enough stress and will not argue with you. I am happy you had some predictions manifest, however the main prediction you are calling about has not...and probably will not based on the the experience of MANY here, with the exception of MAYBE two.
I know you want to believe your favorite readers but those same readers were wrong for me and many many many others here. Cookie got some things right, the color of the chair I was sitting in ect, but outcome 100% wrong. Ladypersephone got the details of what was happening but outcome 100% wrong on several occasions. Kisha got some things right but a lot wrong including a recent thing that she said would not happen and it sure enough DID happen, it was something that she shouldn't have missed. These are just a few that you you talk about frequently. I really do hope they are right for you, honestly I do...but as timelines are pushed further and further out and no action is happening to back up their predictions one can only see the reality as it is presented...simply put, the prediction is NOT happening and probably will not.
I am frustrated because I know first hand how disappointing it is when we hear the same story from so many readers, we have hope only to find out that what they are predicting is wrong. I know you will say but it may come down the road and it possibly could...but at what point do you stop and admit they are simply wrong.
I almost lost myself because of all of the readings, I questioned my ability to perform in a position that I am trained to do....if a 3.99 min card flipper/psychic can fool me, brainwash me, and make me believe fantasy then how in the hell can I NOT be fooled by anyone else. The sadness I have experienced over all of this has crippled me in so many ways, and then to come here and and share MY experience and have someone analyze my words to keep their fantasy alive breaks my heart.
I think we can all agree that some small things have happened along the way, I can not argue that but the outcome we all want just doesn't happen.
PLL, synergy, Bella, hope4love, sagitiria, and many others have written their experience on this thread and it mirrors mine. I cried when I read each post because I know the pain they all experience and I hope you are the one that does not have to fell what each of us did.
I don't know why I felt that my situation would turn out different than theirs, it was wishful, distortion on my part. I wanted to believe and I set myself up for disappointment and heartbreak.
PLL has written about her situation in detail and if you read her post, and Synergy's post you will find that the outcome was not what they were being told. Both of these ladies have been honest in their reviews and have experienced what I am feeling now, their reviews should not be discarded.
Believe what you choose to believe, but I feel confident predicting that you will be here reporting the same disappointment that the majority of us are reporting. You can tear my words apart to make you feel better and believe that you will be the exception but reality will come knocking on your door like it did for the majority of this forum.
For all of you that have PM'ed me I can't thank you enough, and for the ones who PM'ed me and said you don't want to post on the forum because you don't want to be tore apart I totally understand! I felt I needed to pay-it-forward and that is the reason for sharing the failed outcome with those who choose to read it, and perhaps accept that these readers are WRONG...period!
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Just playing Devil's advocate as many others here like to do...I do not see anywhere in this post that this was directing to any one person. In fact, it seems an invite to everyone and no one specific. As I was included in this invite, I perceived it as a light and non-aggressive post and felt Bella was simply attempting to find even more avenues to find answers to the little mysteries we all or some of us may wonder as to what happened with final outcome for past members. She even clearly states that she herself has done this. Perhaps the invite was for all of us to reach out to any past members we may still currently have or had a rapport with or better yet an invite to the ones of us who are skilled at cold contact. Either way. I do not and did not detect a snarky tone in this post at all.
Perhaps the post you selected wasn't directed to anyone in specific, but Bella's following post was.
Oh I have pm'd some Bark. Their accounts are still active. So how come you haven't?
You can't reasonably suggest that I made that up can you?
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Whatever bark. I'm under enough stress and will not argue with you.
I am not arguing with you kicking. How you can read my personal opinion and classify it as anything other than my own opinion, is beyond me.
I am happy you had some predictions manifest, however the main prediction you are calling about has not...and probably will not based on the the experience of MANY here, with the exception of MAYBE two.
You have no idea everything that is happening in my life. I have had predictions manifest. Predictions related to the issues at hand and other predictions that are not significant to those matters - both have manifested. Why even last night I had a big prediction manifest. You simply do not know.
I know you want to believe your favorite readers but those same readers were wrong for me and many many many others here.
I am not concerned with whether a reader has been wrong in the past. We all know that different readers connect with different people. Cookie got some things right, the color of the chair I was sitting in ect, but outcome 100% wrong. Ladypersephone got the details of what was happening but outcome 100% wrong on several occasions. Kisha got some things right but a lot wrong including a recent thing that she said would not happen and it sure enough DID happen, it was something that she shouldn't have missed. These are just a few that you you talk about frequently. I really do hope they are right for you, honestly I do...but as timelines are pushed further and further out and no action is happening to back up their predictions one can only see the reality as it is presented...simply put, the prediction is NOT happening and probably will not.
I have had no timeline pushed out and out as you say. The timing that was given to me at the outset has not come and gone. So once again, you are mistaken in your assessment of MY case.
Believe what you choose to believe, but I feel confident predicting that you will be here reporting the same disappointment that the majority of us are reporting.
Well let me understand this properly. More than 200 psychics can't predict anything, but you can. OK. So be it. I don't know how you can possibly know what will happen in my life tomorrow. I don't know what will happen tomorrow.
You can tear my words apart to make you feel better and believe that you will be the exception but reality will come knocking on your door like it did for the majority of this forum.
Kicking, I am not tearing you or your words apart.
For all of you that have PM'ed me I can't thank you enough, and for the ones who PM'ed me and said you don't want to post on the forum because you don't want to be tore apart I totally understand!
I have no idea what this means, but I am not tearing your post apart, I am simply saying that I am entitled to my own opinion, just as you are entitled to yours. It appears to me you not only believe yours is the only valid one, but you don't want me to even have an opinion.
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Bark,
First off, my original post about sending a PM to prior posters on this forum WAS NOT directed at you. AT ALL. YOU then asked a direct question of ME. To which I answered. That is all. Why are you now trying to say MY ANSWER to YOUR QUESTION was a direct target on you? At least own up that maybe you are blowing my ANSWER to YOUR QUESION out of proportion?
YOU are not the first person that has wondered "why" people stop posting. If you look back, it is mentioned quite a few times over the past 3 years. When I read your post about why they don't come back, I just figured that a really good way to find out is to go straight to the source and ask why. As I HAVE done a few times. THAT IS ALL. NOTHING WAS ABOUT YOU.
I honestly don't see how you can take a suggestion that was put out there for everyone who may wonder why as well, and turn it into an attack on you. Please. Enough. If you have a problem with me, then please leave it with me and me alone. You can PM me anytime with any of your problems you may have with me.
We should leave this petty stuff OFF the board, as it is for reviews.
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Bella,
Yes, it was directed at all the people out there who seem to think that people just don't come back to post anymore, because the guy came back, or they made other decisions, broke their addictions, or whatnot.
I happen to be one of those persons, however, I was simply responding to this statement of yours...
I would love to hear how some people are doing. Where they are in their lives. I too hate the story with no ending. Whether good or bad.
That is why I then asked, "why don't you PM them yourself". You turned it into something more.
And please, and once and for all, understand I am not in the slightest bit curious why people don't come back to this forum. Let me repeat it again so there is no misunderstanding, I am not in the slightest bit interested in why. I believe, if I read your post correctly, you are.
And finally, I don't have a problem with you. Kicking was the first to suggest something as petty as that, and in fact, accused me of having a problem with you, but she is mistaken. So, kindly hear it from me and me alone " I don't have a problem with you". I don't agree with your opinion, but you're entitled to one, just ass I am entitled to mine.
I have opinions on psychic readings and why they do or do not manifest for those that secure them. That is the entire purpose of this forum, to share opinions on readers and readings and accuracy and such. That's what I do on this forum. I don't think I should be ganged up on, as is what is occurring right now, or misquoted, or mistreated so that I feel unwelcome and choose not to participate anymore. That could be one of the other reasons why older members don't come back and report. It could be that they experienced a chilly welcome as I am now. You never know. It happens. More often than many would like to admit. By the same players. But it is still not right.
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bark how long have you been getting readings if you don't mind me asking? reason why i ask is the statement you made: I have had no timeline pushed out and out as you say. The timing that was given to me at the outset has not come and gone. - if you have not had timeframes pushed out then you are very lucky.
i have had my timeframes pushed out since 1.5years ago. it is extremely devastating waiting for months for the timeframe to come only to discover that absolutely nothing psychics predicted was happening, instead they come up with the "free will bs" everytime and timeframes are pushed further and further away. for some members who are not as strong it can be debilitating and very very heartbreaking. especially for new members who are just starting psychic journey. i felt it was my duty to state my experience because i do not wish for people to wait their lives away like i did. i've wasted 2 years of my life. yes it was my own mistake but it was also posts like KTH's that made me open my eyes and research a bit more into the subject. so those posts are very helpful - for me it was. posts like syngergy's - i followed her story and it really helped me to see the reality for what it is. i can totally understand KTH. it is her experience and feedback about the readers who were plain wrong! and for me too. so i'm happy if you have predictions come to fruition all i'm gonna say is you are one of very few people i know who had predictions manifest.
your statement: Kicking, I am not tearing you or your words apart - it really looks like you are. i don't understand the need for that because KTH is only stating her experience stating that no psychic got the outcome correct - same as for me. i don't mean to upset anyone here and hope you won't take offence to my post.
you had predictions manifest and that's great. i and many others didn't. the reason for posting at least for me to warn others not to rely on readings because i know first hand what readings and relying on them too much can cause. they really can ruin your life if you allow them.
readings served their purpose to me in extremely difficult times when i couldn't even get out of bed because of how depressed i felt with things not manifesting.
my outcome was negative and sadly i believe out of possible 200 readers i read with only 2 or 3 readers said outcome was negative. Kisha was one who predicted that i will not end up with my ex. however the way she predicted the outcome was completely wrong (don't wanna go into too much details). i respect her because i didn't feel she was selling me any fairytale, she missed out on 3 huge things happening and was wrong about all 3 things completely. it was simple yes or no question and she got them wrong. i believed she connected with me as she was accurate on past and present - so how come she's wrong on future since she connected? because she did getting past and present correct. bare in mind 80percent of readers got my past and present right but future wrong. so there was no connection problem it was simple - they could not see my future. i have become a skeptic after my experience i admit it. but i cannot say yes i believe psychics have a gift because no future prediction happened for me.
however i am happy that predictions manifested for you and continue to manifest. it is always good to read when predictions happen.sadly i cannot say the same because things turned out completely different way then predicted. the good thing about it is that it is exactly stories like KTH's that helped me pick myself up and start living my life, understand that life does go on after you lose the one you love and perhaps see how the other members coped after break up, like what they did to distract themselves - i found baggage reclaim website here and i am so grateful for this. i would still be upset getting reading after reading spending my all money to hear fairytale if i haven't read people's posts about their experience here.
so i'm not saying psychics are all fake. and we all know we don't connect with everyone. but is it really a connection issue when they all pick up your past and present but absolutely nothing they pick up regarding future happens the way they see?
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bark how long have you been getting readings if you don't mind me asking? reason why i ask is the statement you made: I have had no timeline pushed out and out as you say. The timing that was given to me at the outset has not come and gone. - if you have not had timeframes pushed out then you are very lucky.
That is correct. No timing has come and gone. I guess I am lucky.
your statement: Kicking, I am not tearing you or your words apart - it really looks like you are.
sigitira, I am not tearing apart kicking's post and I do object to that. How can you disregard what I said about kicking. Read what I wrote again, please Whatever works for you, personally, is what you have to go with. If it works for Kicking to turn the page and put this in the past, then so be it. It may not work for others, but it works for her.
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bark how long have you been getting readings if you don't mind me asking? reason why i ask is the statement you made: I have had no timeline pushed out and out as you say. The timing that was given to me at the outset has not come and gone. - if you have not had timeframes pushed out then you are very lucky.
That is correct. No timing has come and gone. I guess I am lucky.
But you HAVE had FAILED predictions:
I read with her about 6 months ago. She hit on a couple of facts that I can say are true, but overall the reading was rather generic and not all that impressive. Looking back now I think it could apply to a multitude of people. She predicted that something would turn around right away that did not.
And it seems in the past, you were curious as to why people didn't post their updates:
Is that because they don't actually reconcile or is it because once they do the don't come back here to report?
This is the entire thread: http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1110.msg16517.html#msg16517
Again, I'm going to AGAIN agree with the others and say that psychics were wrong for me. I spent over 10K, have not called in over 2 years and will probably have another 2 years to finish paying it off. Dumbest thing I ever did in my life, was to get addicted to psychics.
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OK, now this is getting unreasonable. Sunandmoon, the thread you pasted was when I first joined the forum and I asked why older members did not come back to the forum. I was told to read the threads. I did. I never asked again. You suggest today that I am still wondering why people don't come back. I am not. I am not at all interested in why because I realize there are any number of reasons. Not just one.
Furthermore, I will ask you once to kindly not report on MY CASE. That was not a failed prediction and the fact that you would try to make it appear that way suggests what is really going on here. And I don't like it. You have no idea what you are speaking of unless you are Destiny251, that is! The post you refer to was a reading I had that I referred to as a very generic read that could apply to almost anyone. I mentioned she had picked up a couple of points and she predicted something quite unassociated to my central line of questioning that was supposed to occur in days, and in fact it occurred but not until nearly a month later. That's what I shared in the post.
What bothers me the most is what is clearly going on now. This is uncalled for. And I see the same people jumping on the bandwagon. And you all wonder why people don't come back to report what happens later? I see that no one has taken exception to the unfair aggression, false accusations and argumentative tone of this post direct to me. No of course not. By the way, I didn't say anything about this other than it is uncalled for, but I will admit that Kicking was asking members in chat if anyone had read with this reader or that, all the while claiming she was not getting readings. Frankly, if truth be known, I feel a little offended by being mislead like that. Give it a flipping rest. I get sick of reading your distorted BS!
I HAVE emailed many that were here and ALL of them that responded said NOTHING HAPPENED!
This has been my case too!!! THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE, NOTHING HAPPENED, THEY WERE ALL WRONG!
STOP EFFING UP MY THREAD! IT IS MY EXPERIENCE! I'm going through enough right now and sorting out how/why I jumped back on this crazy train! The last thing I want to do is come here and read your confrontational, irrational post.
STOP PICKING EVERY GD WORD APART AND LOOKING FOR A WAY TO MAKE YOUR HOPES FIT BY RIDICULOUSLY INSERTING THOUGHTS OF FANTASY!
STOP CALLING BELLA OUT BECAUSE YOU ARE PISSED AT HER FOR TRYING TO TALK SOME SENSE INTO YOU!!!
AND STOP POSTING YOUR OPINION AND TRYING TO SAY I AM WRONG ABOUT MY F%*@ING EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!
NO ONE WAS RIGHT!!! NO ONE...PERIOD!!!!!
Kicking and Bella,
Why is my post unnecessary? If people are curious as to why older members haven't come back to report then by all means reach out the them and ask, but in the meantime, and this was my whole point, please don't speculate or resort to hyperbole. There's no doubt in my mind, by the way, that some of the members' predictions didn't turn out the way they wished, but certainly not all.
bark how long have you been getting readings if you don't mind me asking? reason why i ask is the statement you made: I have had no timeline pushed out and out as you say. The timing that was given to me at the outset has not come and gone. - if you have not had timeframes pushed out then you are very lucky.
That is correct. No timing has come and gone. I guess I am lucky.
But you HAVE had FAILED predictions:
I read with her about 6 months ago. She hit on a couple of facts that I can say are true, but overall the reading was rather generic and not all that impressive. Looking back now I think it could apply to a multitude of people. She predicted that something would turn around right away that did not.
And it seems in the past, you were curious as to why people didn't post their updates:
Is that because they don't actually reconcile or is it because once they do the don't come back here to report?
This is the entire thread: http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1110.msg16517.html#msg16517
Again, I'm going to AGAIN agree with the others and say that psychics were wrong for me. I spent over 10K, have not called in over 2 years and will probably have another 2 years to finish paying it off. Dumbest thing I ever did in my life, was to get addicted to psychics.
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I have not posted on here about my recent experiences not because they didn't come true but because of mean things like this that keep getting posted. We are not in high school anymore. Just let it go.
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Bark,
Be offended, be pissed, be whatever you want to be. I am done with our BS! Bark, Smee, Smee2, Monkeytoes, whomever you want to be at this moment, don't talk about being offended that I DID NOT CHOOSE TO SHARE, WITH WHICHEVER PERSON YOU WANT TO BE ON ANY GIVE DAY, WITH YOU!
I am tired of this and tired of you attacking people when we say the reader was WRONG! I get it that you want to believe that YOUR guy is coming back, after 2 years and a lot of money spent I totally understand!
You need to stop! You are not fooling anyone here and this is the reason people don't want to say someone was WRONG!
It does not help anyone to start the process of moving on when you challenge anyones experience.
I apologize for being so direct, frustrated, and extremely pissed off!!! BUT, you have attacked several people for simply sharing their failed predictions BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THE HORSES@$T the psychics are selling you. They are getting your "nest egg" as you called it, and you are getting false hope!
I have been here since the beginning, and I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER! I chose to slip back on the crazy train and take the ride, my intention for sharing my experience was in hopes of HELPING SOMEONE ELSE AVOID THE PAIN, nothing more!
So since you feel the need to call me a liar and allege that I DECEIVED YOU...when in fact I try to avoid YOU, Im calling you out for DECEIVING the members of this forum by coming back here!!!
Enough is Enough!!! I have asked you through PM to stop, I asked you when you publicly attacked Bella to stop but you cant!
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bark, I think the issue started when you chose to speak against kicking's experience. you have a habit of doing this, as I have witnessed in chat. if someone reports that their reading implied such and such, you try your best to spin the reading, or find gray areas open to suppositions, thereby inserting your opinion into someone else's situation. mind you, when any of us try to offer an opinion on your situation, you immediately react. your reaction tends to be rather defensive, and you remind us, rather assertively, that we don't know that details of your life.
all I'm asking is that you simply allow people to share their experience without trying to imbue the situation with your own brand of "hope/reality".
let it go, and allow kicking to deal with this as she sees fit without your interpretation.
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Wait a second. If someone can post that they believe no one should have hope, that all psychics were wrong and that no one will have a positive outcome, why is it wrong for someone else to post that they do have hope?
We are all adults, why can't opinions be presented without people turning it into a slinging match?
That's what I don't get. At all. I also don't get how it is possible that these "so-called psychics" as some of you say can predict insignificant predictions and yet they can't predict big ones! Have you ever given thought to why these little, insignificant predictions come true and yet the ones that all of us are waiting with baited breath on are not happening? Could it be, could it be...that we have something to do with that? Have any of you given it even the slightest thought to this? How is it possible for a psychic to predict something and get it right and yet they can't predict their way out of a paper bag on the important things?
Just maybe it is because the little things that are predicted as not central to our thought patterns. We dismiss that, its not important. And by dismissing it we actually do with that prediction what we are supposed to do. Had any of you even given that just one thought? Anyway, I am done with this conversation. Think what you all will.
As for the other post, I will not dignify it with a response. I am not interested in engaging, Kicking.
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Good job with taking the "high road", bark.
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Furthermore, I will ask you once to kindly not report on MY CASE. That was not a failed prediction and the fact that you would try to make it appear that way suggests what is really going on here. And I don't like it. You have no idea what you are speaking of unless you are Destiny251, that is!
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Wow. But can't you see that you yourself do this all of the time on this board? I mean really...why do you have to twist everyone's experiences to fit what you think is right?
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Furthermore, I will ask you once to kindly not report on MY CASE. That was not a failed prediction and the fact that you would try to make it appear that way suggests what is really going on here. And I don't like it. You have no idea what you are speaking of unless you are Destiny251, that is!
Wow. But can't you see that you yourself do this all of the time on this board? I mean really...why do you have to twist everyone's experiences to fit what you think is right?
Exactly! All I did was copy what you had written. I didn't twist it or imply anything. You said "She predicted that something would turn around right away that did not."
I talked to a lot of psychics. Many said I have a gift. I'm guessing many of YOU got that same line. Some of the things we are told can be told by ANYONE in our lives - for FREE! Many psychics are really just giving you guidance. As a matter of fact - YOU said this Bark: "She hit on a couple of facts that I can say are true, but overall the reading was rather generic and not all that impressive. Looking back now I think it could apply to a multitude of people"
There was a video link posted here a long time ago. Everyone in a room got a typed up reading, and they were all amazed at how accurate it was and how it fit their situation. EXCEPT EVERY READING WAS IDENTICAL! We hear what we want to hear. We take what we want from what someone says and discard the rest. It's human nature.
I understand you want to believe. And that's fine. But don't knock on those who also once believed and have since decided to stand on their own. For me, I'm happier than a clam with my new guy, and I'm not calling any psychics about him - ever. Whatever happens, is going to happen. No matter how many times I insisted I was living my life - I wasn't. When I was calling psychics about a man who didn't care one whit about me - I was NOT living my ife.
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Please. I don't wish to discuss this anymore and here is why. I said from the beginning that Kicking is entitled to her opinion. She feels the psychics she called in her case are all wrong. OK. I get it- I accept it. I don't know the details of her case so I do not wish to nor can I comment. In her case the psychics were not right. All I have ever wanted to say is that everyone's case is different. A psychic that works for you might not work for someone else. Where I draw the line is when someone starts predicting what will occur or has occurred in my case. My case is my case. And the post that sunanmoon pulled up to demonstrate that I have had a failed prediction wasn't accurate at all. The prediction that I was referring to in that post was not related to the reason I call psychics, and as it turned out, it did not resolve itself in the timing offered, but did resolve itself a month later. I don't call that a failed prediction. But that is how I look at it. You may have a different opinion, but it is just that - an opinion.
And for the final time, I am not knocking on someone deciding not to believe. They are entitled to think whatever they choose - just as I am.
So, please let us put this to bed. Kicking feels her psychics were wrong. I am not disagreeing with her. How can I? I wasn't there; I don't know the details and it is HER CASE. I am not a psychic. I've been accused of pulling Kicking's post apart, and that is not true. I accept that all the psychics she called were wrong in her case.
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I only read the first page and couldn't take anymore...
BARK, CAN YOU PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP!!
Yes, those caps were for yelling lol.
Let me tell you something dear. There will come a day when the truth will hit you so hard...be it even years from now.
kth hon, I'm so sorry, but I thank you for your courage to share your story. You have much support here and it's stories like this that keep me in reality and continuing to not call.
chin up! It only gets better from here!
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charming!
I only read the first page and couldn't take anymore...
BARK, CAN YOU PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP!!
Yes, those caps were for yelling lol.
Let me tell you something dear. There will come a day when the truth will hit you so hard...be it even years from now.
kth hon, I'm so sorry, but I thank you for your courage to share your story. You have much support here and it's stories like this that keep me in reality and continuing to not call.
chin up! It only gets better from here!
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Sorry.
You just irritate me and lack empathy for others.
But I just read some of this last page and see it's trying to be put to rest so I'll say no more.
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Calypso, I know you're frustrated and you're feel kicking's pain, which we all do, but that kind of aggression is uncalled for. It's obvious we are all here because we are seeking answers, and there is no need to add further insult to injury.
keep it kind.
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So, as some of you know I look at feedback in my spare time because it reinforces why these readers are SOOOOOOO wrong.
flowers27 has been strung along for well over a year and no one has been right about her relationship question.
jamisonboys1123 has been strung along for a while. This person has been told her ex is coming back, he is her soulmate ect.
she left feedback in December that her ex proposed to his gf, of course all the readers said it will not last...we know the script.
The most recent feedback 3/6 is as follows:
3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.
I was so upset when I read this!! The guy married his girlfriend! Take notice of these two examples is all I can say.
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So, as some of you know I look at feedback in my spare time because it reinforces why these readers are SOOOOOOO wrong.
flowers27 has been strung along for well over a year and no one has been right about her relationship question.
jamisonboys1123 has been strung along for a while. This person has been told her ex is coming back, he is her soulmate ect.
she left feedback in December that her ex proposed to his gf, of course all the readers said it will not last...we know the script.
The most recent feedback 3/6 is as follows:
3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.
I was so upset when I read this!! The guy married his girlfriend! Take notice of these two examples is all I can say.
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And this feedback was for the same reader in January! PAY ATTENTION
1/15/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much, you said that me and my ex will get back together you you said play hard to get fresh myself up so can get jealous you said he will need me. The girl he's with he really don't love her and you said the baby that suppose to be his its not. But this month or next he'll be back with me
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Oh my goodness, kicking, this is horrible!! To fuel that level of delusion saddens me to my core. How this fraud can look at their own reflection or even sleep at night knowing that they are literally lying to this woman is just plain sick. What's even more sickening is that I imagine this scenario is replayed 100s of times daily. I know it's not the reader's fault that this woman won't let go at this time, I get that, but be humane and tell her to move on and suggest therapy! I really wish we were able to write other members on there. Grrrr!!!
I have spoken to a handful of the therapists on Ingenio and of course many of them specialize in psychic addiction. That being said, I have also had many of them tell me that many of their regular clients are "psychics" from Keen. One psychologist told me outright that many have no business offering advice to anyone and that many suffer from their own psychological disorders. The therapists list their credentials but I am not sure if Ingenio verifies this or not. I doubt it. But, they have been helpful to me from time to time and I have never felt mislead. One even changed her rate for me from $1.99/min to $.50/min so that her and I could talk for an hour. I was very upset at the time and it was a much needed session. If any of you are interested here is the link: http://counseling-therapy.ingenio.com/ but IMHO if you are seeking long term therapy you should find someone in your area.
Here's the thing...I believe in psychic ability. I really do. I just think that Keen and all of the other platform sites are riddled with frauds and/or marginally talented readers and most of which are very greedy. I rarely get readings anymore but when I do I choose to pay for independent readings that I have researched thoroughly. I also like having to set up an appointment and YES having to WAIT for my reading. It's calming for me and I don't have to freak out about the minutes ticking by because most of the independents are reasonable with their time. What I mean by that is if I pay for a 30 minute reading but it takes 35 or 40 minutes to get the message to me they will do so. I also don't have that anxious feeling to CALL CALL CALL every psychic in my wake after the call ends, lol! I have a dummy email that I have linked to a PayPal account so they are not able to "Google" me beforehand if any of you are concerned about that. Anyway, this works for me, may not work for everyone...I just wanted to throw an alternative out there for any of you wanting to wean yourself off of the platform sites. :)
So, as some of you know I look at feedback in my spare time because it reinforces why these readers are SOOOOOOO wrong.
flowers27 has been strung along for well over a year and no one has been right about her relationship question.
jamisonboys1123 has been strung along for a while. This person has been told her ex is coming back, he is her soulmate ect.
she left feedback in December that her ex proposed to his gf, of course all the readers said it will not last...we know the script.
The most recent feedback 3/6 is as follows:
3/6/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Sorry I couldn't finish funds low, thank you , you see that he made a mistake by marrying that girl you said that we a our soulmates. And he will realize that.
I was so upset when I read this!! The guy married his girlfriend! Take notice of these two examples is all I can say.
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And this feedback was for the same reader in January! PAY ATTENTION
1/15/2014 Jamisonboys1123 5 stars Thank you so much, you said that me and my ex will get back together you you said play hard to get fresh myself up so can get jealous you said he will need me. The girl he's with he really don't love her and you said the baby that suppose to be his its not. But this month or next he'll be back with me
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That being said, I have also had many of them tell me that many of their regular clients are "psychics" from Keen. One psychologist told me outright that many have no business offering advice to anyone and that many suffer from their own psychological disorders.
I know a keen reader personally and you wouldn't believe some of the stories I've heard from her about other readers. They have issues just like everybody else and I wouldn't call some of them based upon the what I know.
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Well in all honesty, we shouldn't believe or act as if psychics are above human or something. They have issues just like everybody else, which probably spills over onto their calls. It's one of the reasons they give out such useless advice or read into things that don't pertain to the caller.
Someone posted 'for entertainment purposes' once before and that is truly how we should look at calls and probably why I have no major rush to stop getting a reading. It is especially entertaining for my ego to hear some of the things they say to me. Nothing makes me feel as good than a huge ego boost.
It still does irritate when I look back over my notes sometimes and look at all the lies I believed and all the stuff that never, never, ever transpired. It's still my belief though that I might find a really solid reader one day.
Who knows?
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it sounds to me like this woman doesn't want to let go. i think some of us can relate to this. i know years ago anytime a reader told me i would NOT get back with my ex i wouldn't believe them. i only believed those that told me that we would. i even got the the point where i would delete and sometimes block advisors so i didn't get their mail because it would make me mad that they would tell me no and seeing their name over email would remind me of their negative prediction. luckily i've grown out of that sort of thinking, but this woman is choosing to believe in the lies/false hope. i actually wonder why she even still believes this reader when reality shows the opposite..
also, i think some of these readers think they are gifted. i'm not sure why they think they can read the future when they can't, but somewhere along the line they became delusional. so i don't think it's always malicious intent, though it is probably just as much one as it is the other.
have you ever made excuses for a reader? for good or bad? i have done this many times as well.
if a reader gives me a negative outcome i focus on the other things they said that were also wrong to try to believe the negative prediction is just wrong.
if a reader gives me a positive outcome but is missing a lot of confirming validations i try to make things fit that don't really from their reading because i want the positive outcome more.
i just think we have to take responsibility for calling, and what we chose to believe. again, i think a lot of readers are only in this for the money and/or to hurt or take advantage of people. however, we are the ones making the calls and spending the money. and i'm not saying this to be preachy or sound like it's easy to just stop. if anyone has an addiction to this it's me. unfortunately i found keen.com about 10 years ago. i could have probably bought a vacation home at the beach with the amount of money i've spent on readings. but i know it was my fault for continuing to call - especially when reality was different than the predictions from the readings.
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KTH what a horrible story.
Yes Truth, I agree with you that this individual probably doesn't want to let go or is having a hard time at it and I came to believe that in my own situation, my continuous calling was prolonging my healing.
what did it for me finally was when I still dropped my guy even after readers discouraged me from doing so. I realized I was the worst person to get readings lol because I was so stubborn to do what I wanted to do anyway. A trait that has worked out for me in this instance.
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i also saw feedback by that flowers person on keen and thought exactly the same. she kept asking about the job if i remember correctly for months! kept being told job offer in 2 or 4 weeks etc for months. i hope she got the job but this only shows how some people are literally blinded by what psychics say and even though predictions don't happen they still keep calling the same person ...why?
also i want to point out one thing - my predictions so far have not manifested however i never gave negative feedback to a reader. i gave positive feedback as i believed that what they were saying would happen because they picked up on past and present. but when months pass by and prediction didn't happen i was unable to leave a feedback as i believe there is only a certain time that you can leave feedback for the reading. once that time passes you can no longer leave a feedback. and i was certainly not calling the psychic back only to leave negative feedback i would not waste my money. i believe that some psychics purposely give longer time frame to avoid negative feedbacks.
i also want to stress out that when people are really in a bad place (depressed and very attached to the guy) they need to be careful not to put their lives on hold and have false hopes.it is extremely dangerous i know this as my best friend 2 years ago was also addicted to readings. she was soo in love and the guy was with someone else. she kept having reading after a reading waiting for reconciliation as psychics predicted - mind you almost every psychic told her they would be together and he would leave the girl - bla bla we all know those fairy tales..well timeframes came and gone, kept being pushed further and further away. over a year later she tried to kill herself, took sleeping pills as she could no longer bear the fact that the guy will not be back and that she was being fed a fairy tale. she believed it so much that when she realised that it was false hope she was unable to cope. it was extremely hard to look at it and it took her over a year to recover and start living again. it is no joke for some people readings can be very damaging.
i'm not saying do not get readings but if you do be wise and realistic about it -really they all say for entertainment purposes only and this is how we should take it. if people feel they need reading every day or several times a week then they are dealing with addiction and that can cause some real harm and damage. so i guess the message is be careful not to rely on what psychics say, you can wait for reconciliation but live your life as well do not put it on hold waiting for time frames.
i still check out the forum and see if anyone's predictions manifest. still looking for that one reader who would be accurate in terms of future, not just present and past but haven't found one yet. many many readers pick up present or past but noone was correct with future predictions. i have so many friends who consulted psychics not one of them said that their predictions manifested. i read almost all posts on this forum and other forums and people are coming with same conclusions - predictions never happened.
i haven't had a reading for a while and i cannot stress how good i feel now. my guy never came back and what actually happened nobody - NOBODY predicted this. not a single reader out of hundreds that i consulted. i also do not believe the connection thing anymore - people say not everyone connects with same psychics but if that psychic is able to pick up on my past and present that means connection was established yet still future predictions fail to manifest. there must be definitely different reason behind why predictions don't manifest (other then forget about prediction and it will then manifest - this also did not happen with me as i've recently re listened to all my readings and some predictions i totally dismissed or forgot about also failed to manifest). the only one who knows the future for me is God (if you are non believer i do not wanna offend or cause arguments this is just my personal experience and opinion).
good luck everyone. keep the feedback going - positive and negative too - as long as it's true honest feedback it is important that people know what to expect and can learn from our experience. it helped me a lot when i realised predictions were not happening i'm sure there will be other people who will find it helpful.
good luck everyone :)
by the way my friend never reconciled with the guy. he met someone else and now lives with her. and sad things is she also works with that person in one building which is why her healing took so long.
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What a great post!!
I will add also that it's actually quite difficult to make the decision to be realistic about readings, taking into consideration others' predictions didn't unfold, and coming to terms with oneself - the time wasted on holding on to false hope.
Because this was an addiction for many of us, myself included, it was painful to let go and deal with the truth...so not only are you hurting over a breakup and waiting for the guy, but also now hurting over the reality of decisions made to call, spending beyond your means and prolonging healing.
Ugh...I remember how it sucked!!
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@calypso
it's actually quite difficult to make the decision to be realistic about readings, taking into consideration others' predictions didn't unfold, and coming to terms with oneself - the time wasted on holding on to false hope.
i agree - it's extremely difficult at least it was for me and still is to accept the reality for what it is. it's the hardest thing i've ever had to do, to understand and let go. everyone probably comes to this conclusion in their own time. a year ago i would not listen to any of my friends telling me that predictions didn't happen. i refused to see the reality. it requires a lot considering i was addicted to readings and false hope that came with it. i'm grateful now that i can finally see the truth even thought it's still hard to cope but i know i lived before i met my ex i will live after he's no longer in my life.
i just realised that some people are meant to come to our lives but not stay in our lives and there is a reason for it. i have learnt so much from my experience. it wasn't all positive but it was certainly very valuable and i know i will do things better next time i am in a relationship.
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I loved what Calypso said, that coming to terms with oneself, time wasted holding on to false hope.
It's difficult to let go of a relationship, very much so, but so is letting go of the hope. It is detrimental to moving on, difficult as it is. Letting go of the hope. It is the true ending of things. And I think, for me, that was what was so hard. Letting go of everything I wanted. Yes letting go of him, but letting go of the hope he would see how stupid he was to let me go. Letting go of MY dreams of what our relationship could be. What I thought my coming years would be. Letting go of all of that. That is what is so hard. I spent the last year thinking about all the things we said we'd do. Like it was gonna happen....lol. The time I should have spent healing, I spent thinking he'd call and we'd go here, and wouldn't he love this?, Wouldn't he like that? We would have so much fun doing....Maybe I should look into this place to go? Jeez, talk about time wasted. Starting over sucks. Especially when you didn't want to in the first place. Especially when you love someone else.
When you let go of the hope, is when the real pain sets in.
And while I was calling, all I could think about was how nice things would be again, to follow through on all the plans we had made. The house, the vacations, blah blah blah....Letting go of him is hard and letting go of all I thought would be is hard too. Letting go of the HOPE. I let myself get caught up in the notion that he missed me, and loved me so. Let myself stay in a non reality.
I feel ashamed. I feel stupid. I feel crushed. Oh, I know I'll be fine. I am really still reeling over it all. Functioning, yes, very well I might add. However, the letting go of the hope kind of lets a reality in that is quite sad. Very sad indeed. It will never be what I thought, or wanted. It will never be what they said it would be. I know I have said this before, and maybe I didn't hear it myself, but people get dumped every single day. And they don't get back together. Ever. And somtimes, you just gotta suck it up, and move on. If he wanted me in his life then I figure he would tell me or show me. And he would be with me. And he doesn't. No need to call a psychic to keep me holding on to something that is no longer there. To keep me hanging on to a hope that is futile.
I question myself, My self esteem. Yes I was with him for 3 years. To call and pay soo much money to hear all these wonderful things....I needed that to help me sleep. Why? Why couldn't I just realize it was over? That he didn't want to be with me anymore? Why couldn't I handle that? To him, it ran it's course. He was done and wanted to start a new chapter. The thing is is we were on different pages. Nothing more. It happens all the time. It was my time to be on the loosing end is all. Nothing more, Not his issues, not money, not depression, nothing...He was just done. Granted, he was a coward and couldnt' tell me, but I think 17 months of nothing says it all. I guess I am a tad slow. lol.
I think if we were to talk to a non biased friend they would be able to see and tell you the truth. They won't fill you with false hope and keep you hanging on. They will help you see and help you heal and help you move on with your life. Which in most cases won't take nearly as long as when you're calling a psychic. But there was something missing in myself, that I had to call a stranger on the phone to hear that he loved me, and how sorry he felt, and how much he wanted me in his life. Yeah, there was something missing in me.
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Well said Bella! I think there is a certain type of person that does this to us (my exbf most likely has a PD). He came to me at a time in my life when I was feeling low and unwanted. He couldn't believe I was being treated the way I was, and took great pains to show me how it could be - with him of course. All those things I wanted, I had wanted because we had talked about them. I so know what you mean. My exbf also stopped talking to me pretty unexpectedly, and it really threw me for a loop. Hard to go from him being attached to my hip to not even talking to me with no warning.
In all my relationships, I've never ever had a problem moving on. I'd certainly been dumped before, or had a crush on someone who didn't like me as much, but this one relationship ending really killed me. I wish I knew why.
Maybe part of it was embarrassment. I was embarrassed over what I had done to be with him, and that I had obviously misjudged his character horribly.
I talked to friends, a few of them. I also talked to a male friend I had known online for quite a few years. He was kind enough to chat with me on the phone. He had gone through a divorce around the same time as I had. He asked the story, and I told him, and he bluntly said it was likely that my exbf was pulling away months before, but I hadn't really noticed it. Probably because the times he left me be I was so thrilled to have some alone time, and when he was around he was looking over my shoulder as usual, so it never really looked like he was gone.
But those psychics, THEY all said he'd be back. Well 99% of them did. And since I was paying them for their "knowledge", I figured they would know best, right?
HARD lesson learned there! I should've listened to all my friends who said he was an ass, he didn't deserve me, let him go, and the oh so popular - if he wants to be with you, he will. THOSE friends were all right.
I met another guy, and you know what? He's not attached to my hip 24/7, he doesn't text bomb and call me when I've been busy at work, but not a day goes by that he doesn't wrap me in his arms and tell me he loves me. Maybe I had to go through all that pain to really appreciate what I have now, I don't know. But I'm glad we found each other and took a chance.
If I had a chance to do over the last 7 years, I'd kick my exbf in the nuts and tell him to take a hike! No do-overs with this one, just way too painful!
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I can empathize with all that is shared in this post, but I also think it is important to mention one more thing. We tend to overlook some really crucial matters at times when calling psychics. That's why I am not all that inclined, personally, to accept that all the information is available to us when we read about reports of both failed and accurate predictions. We simply don't have enough information to be able to determine the quality of the reader, or the reading or the suitability of the personalities involved in the broken relationships. I can admit I have done the very same myself, leaving a reading thinking it was really good reading only to replay it some weeks later to pick up a word or turn of phrase here and there that did not seem quite as I recalled when I first heard it. It's natural, it happens and it can certainly skew what a person could begin to expect occurring in the near future.
Additionally, I don't discount the fact that there could very well be psychics that are either not at all talented or not all that talented and therefore do not see enough in their readings to be able to get the final outcome correctly, or even crucial elements of the "now" for that matter. So callers can easily be mislead if they do not perform their searches carefully, reviewing the psychics they call in terms of accuracy and reputation. And even then there isn't an entity that one can look towards to determine good and bad psychics as there might be in other professional associations, so that research has to be done by the caller without a lot to work with.
Secondly, while it is reported on forums like this that most psychics suggest that former exes will return, we all know that not all exes do return to a former love interest. I can't suggest what the percentage of them do, but I am sure that the chances of this happening depends highly upon the quality of the relationship and the personality of the individuals involved. Some relationships are toxic, and should not continue, regardless of the desires or one or more of the parties involved. Not saying that anyone participating in this thread has had such a relationship, but we all know that people learn later that they were not well suited to each other, and needed either the space, the time or some other relationship to develop in order to become truly aware of that fact. Let's face it some exes should NOT return since the base relationship was not a good union of souls and why would the Universe be inclined to bring two people back together that clearly do not belong together?
And it is for this VERY reason that it is so crucial that the information delivered in a psychic reading should neither trump nor outweigh the information that the caller gets from his or her own intuition.
Well said Bella! I think there is a certain type of person that does this to us (my exbf most likely has a PD). He came to me at a time in my life when I was feeling low and unwanted. He couldn't believe I was being treated the way I was, and took great pains to show me how it could be - with him of course. All those things I wanted, I had wanted because we had talked about them. I so know what you mean. My exbf also stopped talking to me pretty unexpectedly, and it really threw me for a loop. Hard to go from him being attached to my hip to not even talking to me with no warning.
I'm all my relationships, I've never ever had a problem moving on. I'd certainly been dumped before, or had a crush on someone who didn't like me as much, but this one relationship ending really killed me. I wish I knew why.
Maybe part of it was embarrassment. I was embarrassed over what I had done to be with him, and that I had obviously misjudged his character horribly.
I talked to friends, a few of them. I also talked to a male friend I had known online for quite a few years. He was kind enough to chat with me on the phone. He had gone through a divorce around the same time as I had. He asked the story, and I told him, and he bluntly said it was likely that my exbf was pulling away months before, but I hadn't really noticed it. Probably because the times he left me be I was so thrilled to have some alone time, and when he was around he was looking over my shoulder as usual, so it never really looked like he was gone.
But those psychics, THEY all said he'd be back. Well 99% of them did. And since I was paying them for their "knowledge", I figured they would know best, right?
HARD lesson learned there! I should've listened to all my friends who said he was an ass, he didn't deserve me, let him go, and the oh so popular - if he wants to be with you, he will. THOSE friends were all right.
I met another guy, and you know what? He's not attached to my hip 24/7, he doesn't text bomb and call me when I've been busy at work, but not a day goes by that he doesn't wrap me in his arms and tell me he loves me. Maybe I had to go through all that pain to really appreciate what I have now, I don't know. But I'm glad we found each other and took a chance.
If I had a chance to do over the last 7 years, I'd kick my exbf in the nuts and tell him to take a hike! No do-overs with this one, just way too painful!
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I suppose one could look at it that way, yes, but what it really means to me is that if a reading produces information that feels or appears to the caller as "too good to be true", chances are it is!! We can't suggest anything as readers of this forum. We don't know enough to make a comment or judgment. Just as it would be improper for me to suggest that any relationship with a former love will not happen. I simply don't know.
The callers are really the only ones (other than truly skilled psychics, and there may be fewer of those than it appears) that can determine whether there is any merit in this relationship resuming. If there's no merit, it doesn't matter what a reader tells you - it's likely either not to happen or not to last - so why delude yourself into thinking it might?
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Bella, your entire post really resonated with me but the core of it, below, letting go of the hope and letting the real pain set in, hence allowing the real healing to set in has made a positive impression. Thank you for sharing this. You are a wonderful and kind soul. Even tho my part of your journey is as big as a grain of sand, lol, I am still happy to be a part of it. We are all healing in our own way but we are all learning so much, too. I am so grateful for everyone on the forum and am here for any of you if and when you need me. Much love, all!!
I loved what Calypso said, that coming to terms with oneself, time wasted holding on to false hope.
It's difficult to let go of a relationship, very much so, but so is letting go of the hope. It is detrimental to moving on, difficult as it is. Letting go of the hope. It is the true ending of things. And I think, for me, that was what was so hard. Letting go of everything I wanted. Yes letting go of him, but letting go of the hope he would see how stupid he was to let me go. Letting go of MY dreams of what our relationship could be. What I thought my coming years would be. Letting go of all of that. That is what is so hard. I spent the last year thinking about all the things we said we'd do. Like it was gonna happen....lol. The time I should have spent healing, I spent thinking he'd call and we'd go here, and wouldn't he love this?, Wouldn't he like that? We would have so much fun doing....Maybe I should look into this place to go? Jeez, talk about time wasted. Starting over sucks. Especially when you didn't want to in the first place. Especially when you love someone else.
When you let go of the hope, is when the real pain sets in.
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I'm all my relationships, I've never ever had a problem moving on. I'd certainly been dumped before, or had a crush on someone who didn't like me as much, but this one relationship ending really killed me. I wish I knew why.
Maybe part of it was embarrassment. I was embarrassed over what I had done to be with him, and that I had obviously misjudged his character horribly.
Sun, it still amazes me how many of our personal situations mirror one another here. I feel EXACTLY the same way about this particular break up. I usually move on in a healthy amount of time (3-6 months) post a break up. Sometimes sooner. But this one has left such an imprint on my heart, my soul, my ego, whatever. Sometimes it feels so.....unnatural to still harbor feelings for someone that has clearly moved on and completely let go of me, and to have done so swiftly and without reservation. I am sure your friend was correct that the ex was pulling away months prior to the split. I know my ex was and I tried everything I could to bring him back in but he was determined to not work it out.
Anyway, I also want to thank you for sharing your words with us as well. Maybe I'm reading all of this with a "new set of eyes" at just the right time, but I am ready to move on to the next chapter of my life and let him be. ;D
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I'm all my relationships, I've never ever had a problem moving on. I'd certainly been dumped before, or had a crush on someone who didn't like me as much, but this one relationship ending really killed me. I wish I knew why.
Maybe part of it was embarrassment. I was embarrassed over what I had done to be with him, and that I had obviously misjudged his character horribly.
Sun, it still amazes me how many of our personal situations mirror one another here. I feel EXACTLY the same way about this particular break up. I usually move on in a healthy amount of time (3-6 months) post a break up. Sometimes sooner. But this one has left such an imprint on my heart, my soul, my ego, whatever. Sometimes it feels so.....unnatural to still harbor feelings for someone that has clearly moved on and completely let go of me, and to have done so swiftly and without reservation. I am sure your friend was correct that the ex was pulling away months prior to the split. I know my ex was and I tried everything I could to bring him back in but he was determined to not work it out.
Anyway, I also want to thank you for sharing your words with us as well. Maybe I'm reading all of this with a "new set of eyes" at just the right time, but I am ready to move on to the next chapter of my life and let him be. ;D
I know, it's so odd. I certainly know people who always seem to have a hard time with breakups, but I was never really one of them after the initial bit of hurt. But with this one, it was a full 18 months before I was able to let go and way too much money on psychics, get back together books, forums and all that stuff. Yes, in some instances he gave me hope (and honestly I read into it), then the psychics gave me hope.
I probably wouldn't have held on for so long without the psychics, but OTOH I didn't start calling them till 3-4 months out - when I normally would've been well into my healing stage. Something certainly happened to me internally with this one and it sure wasn't healthy. And I am a woman who claims she doesn't need a man to be happy, so why did this one set me back so far?
I'm so glad you're getting a new set of eyes. I remember when that happened to me, and it was a liberating feeling! 8)
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Hi,
First off, Decibel, your sharing throughout the last year has helped me tremendously. I kid you not. Your sharing of your psychic experiences helped me to come to terms with my own psychic addiction.
So for that I thank you. We are all here for a reason. To share. And I am grateful. Even though the sharing started with and unfortunately ended with heartbreak and empty pockets....lol.
But what you and Sunandmooon stated that previous breakups never had the same effect that these particular ones do....the ones that start us calling. I don't know, and I can only speak for myself, but in my case, I have been through marriage, kids, and after a really long time it ended. It sucked, it hurt, my dreams for my future and family life took a dramatic turn. One that I never wanted, but in the end, it was for the best. But I never looked back. As long as it took me to heal, I did it. And it took a while. So why is this one different?
I guess for *ME* it was while I was married I saw the demise...I lived it. This one? No, I didn't see it coming. AT ALL. Thinking back, I can only see maybe one or two things that maybe I missed. I WANTED this relationship. I LOVED this man. Totally and unconditionally. And the fact that he didn't feel the same while I was so in LOVE....I think that is what did it. For me anyway. I just couldn't handle it. And at this point it really doesn't matter what he wanted, did, said, or whatever. What matters is how I couldn't come to grips with it. I can go on forever on how good I thought it was, my love for him, The things OMG that he led me to believe...Cause for all intents and purposes, thing were hunk dory....But in the end.....HE was done. I COULDN'T face it. and that is all. No matter how cruelly he ended it, the fact is, is that he DID. And yes, he never told me, but come on....after a few months of nothing? I should have seen it.. I should have....but I held on to what he said, and what the psychics told me....
And that brings me to what you and Sunandmoon said....Why this guy? But I honestly don't think it's this particular guy so to speak. It's ME. MY ego, for whatever reason. I didn't, as in my marriage see the end coming. Or want the end for that matter. I don't know. Maybe after my failed marriage and my dreams for that coming to an end, I couldn't face that happening again? But All I do know is that I need to work on me. Why would I let someone who didn't see my worth, make me feel so worthless? So worthless that I needed to pay someone on the phone to tell me that he loves me? When he obviously does not? Time does heal. It really does. However, this time, it seems to be taking way longer than expected......lol. My love for him is still there, yeah I hate to say it but it is. That just doesn't go away. But I know I have to move on and maybe find someone who will love me .
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my heart goes out to all of you hurting same way :( i wish i didn't know how you guys feel but sadly i know very well. this one guy...that got us to start calling... :( wish i knew how long it would take to heal and move on completely not just in my head but let go of him in my heart...that still doesn't seem to listen to my brain that he wasn't meant to be with me...
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kth you're right this is why i stopped with readings. it's much better now but still hurts perhaps with time this will lessen for us. i think i'm in the accepting phase :) just needs time but at least i won't be spending money - well throwing it down the toilet really cause calling psychics got me nowhere lol just caused me to realise i was totally wasting my money...
wish i could take all the pain away from us :) now i only hope that whatever is happening will be best for me in the long run..
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Bella, maybe you've hit on the common theme - the unexpected breakup? That is certainly what happened to me and because I was so upset about everything I had done to give him what he wanted only to find out he didn't seem to wanted it after all. And then kind of forgot to send me the memo.
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Hi all,
I wasn't sure of posting this or not....However, I found something out that the ex bf did, and was quite upsetting to me. It was something that was promised from him to me to do together. He NEEDED me to help him with this. Well it turns out he did it on his own, a year ago. When all the psychics were telling me how upset he was, depressed and so on, umm....from what he did, not so much.
You know, I do believe SOME have a gift in seeing things. I mean really, how could they know specifics? That raises the question on their ethics, alibilty, or who knows.
Let me give you an example....My ex husband and I have been apart for about 8 years now. For some stupid reason, he still pops up in my dreams...a lot. Now let's just say HE were calling a psychic...and let's say he called a gifted one....they might tell him that I "dream of him" umm. yeah unfortuantely I do. He was a significant part of my life, we have children together, we were together for a ton of years. But I wouln't trust him as far as I could throw him, and with the weight he's gained, it wouldn't be too far. HOWEVER, my point is, is that they would pick that fact up, that I dream of him...And they would more than likely misinpterpret it. Because believe me, I WOULD NEVER EVER GET BACK WITH HIM. But they would tell him how I dream of him, and sometimes think of him, (which I do, but not always in a positive way) Sometimes, because of our past, I do think of him to tell him something about a mutual friend or whatnot...or because on of our children..or because I get all melancholy at times....Maybe they would give him those words and look into it like I want him back???? Do I still love him? Yes, but not in THAT way. I love him because of the years we spent, I KNOW him. But in no way shape or form, in a romantic way. I do at times miss "My family" . But that does NOT mean I want him back. EVER. But I imagine me, calling about the ex b/f, and hearing that he dreams of me?????!!!????!!! OMG doesn't that sound great? It sounds like he wants me!!!! When in reality, he does not....
So that leads me to my current readings on the ex b/f who was such a coward. Does he feel bad? Probably, cause you would have to be less than human to think or feel how you DIDN'T end things was nice. Does he miss me? Maybe, I was good to him, and we had a lot of good times. Does that mean he wants me back or in his life now????? Ummm... NO. It does not. It doesn't mean anything.
The fact that, and I am going out on a limb here, He misses me, feels so bad about what he did, that means NOTHING for my future. Means nothing in so far as predictions. We all miss someone, we all realize something was good, but that doesn't mean THEY want to go back to that AT ALL!!!
So yeah, they might be gifted in the past or possibly the current....I mean really WTF are we all looking for, for them to be God? Isn't it enough that you can call a complete stranger on the phone and they can tell you about your past? I think that is amazing. To get SPECIFICS!?! WOW. I know I have been blown away with certain things a few times....
The unethical ones that are just so cruel and out for the money who string people along should really just burn in hell, if you ask me. To use their gift for money, no matter who they hurt. And yes, I have been strung along too. But I allowed myself to be. However, the people that they really rip off and cause irrefutable, irreparable damage to....my heart goes out to them.
The problem is is that for *ME* I honestly thought what they said was real..what they said would happen would, they knew so much... It's like a needle in your arm....Just as damaging. But that call, that band aid feels good when you're hurting...
I still honestly don't know how some people have had things happen for them.. I am just jealous I guess. lol.
Lesson for me, is never ever think it is more than "for entertainment purposes only". Never ever put stock in what they say. If they pick up on something, then wow, isn't that cool....I just wish it wasn't so costly, in an emotional and monetary way.
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Never ever looked at it this way, great point bella ;)
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Hey Bella, thank you for this post. Your sentence "You love him but not in that way" was really eye opening. You are so right. Maybe my ex does still miss me, think about me as all the relationships have some good moments, might even have feelings for me, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN MY EX WANTS ME BACK! Psychics pick on these things and give us hope, and when it doesnt happen I come crashing down and it hurts real bad. Atleast I know now that I should ask psychics if my ex wants me back, if I do call, which i have minimized to almost a call like every 2-3 weeks, from 2-3 calls a day.
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bella i'm sorry you had to find that out but you are right and really you are seeing it correctly because even if my ex called psychics and asked about me they would pick up i love him, think about him often and dream about him. however i would not take him back because of how he hurt me and other things (too personal to put on public forum)
so yes it's likely they miss us because if you spend considerable amount of time with someone you do get attached and have some feelings towards one another. in most cases everybody has time when they miss the other person or think about other person. but yes this does not mean they want us back as well.
funny thing is that i can actually validate if psychics are right or wrong when it comes to feelings because i see my ex almost everyday and we do talk..i know he has some feelings and so do i. but none of us would get back together we both have serious reasons now not to. 99percent of psychics saw us together and some well respected psychics here were literally adamant that we would end up together - didn't happen. and it never will now. i'm sure if i called a psychic today he/she would tell me he loves me misses me he would break up with his gf and be with me. i'd probably just laugh in their face. i stopped reading with psychics but i still read the forum because as promised i want to update later about remaining predictions which are supposed to happen.
i think closest so far to seeing things when it comes to specifics was Elizabeth3 and her predictions are for later however i hold no hopes as i had similarly crazy experience with Cookie who picked up on very very specific things but predictions were totally wrong. so when it comes to psychics i no longer believe anyone can actually see future - my personal opinion and will probably not change it anymore as i've had over 2 years of my own experience to see that what most of them are is just frauds. to find a gifted psychic who can actually read future as well not just past and present seems like mission impossible.
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Bella, I read your story and thought of a quote I had seen some time back.
"What screws us up most in life is the picture in our head of how it is supposed to be."
Boy, does that ring true for me. That is the hardest part of all of this. Those beautiful pictures we paint in our heads...
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Better yet, the picture the other pserson paints for us with invisible ink.
More like disappearing ink ::)
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Better yet, the picture the other pserson paints for us with invisible ink.
More like disappearing ink ::)
LOL!!!!!
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Bella, I read your story and thought of a quote I had seen some time back.
"What screws us up most in life is the picture in our head of how it is supposed to be."
Boy, does that ring true for me. That is the hardest part of all of this. Those beautiful pictures we paint in our heads...
Yes, it's true isn't it? What we thought it would be, what we imagined...Love that quote.
However my picture became somewhat of an imprint for far too long...based on what I called to hear.
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Hello everyone :) Long time lurker and first time poster here. First of all, I would like to thank all of the members that have taken the time to share their experiences and stories on this board, good and bad. It was painful yet comforting to know that I wasn't alone in this crazy psychic spiral I was caught up in. I followed your stories and felt your pain as I was and am living through the same thing. My story is the same as many of you. The "man that got away, soulmate, twin flame, etc". That lied to me, hurt me, used me when it was convenient for him, and dumped me when it wasn't. And I just couldn't let go. Coupled with the fact that he would pop in and out of my life instead of just being done. I've been in a whirlwind of depression and self loathing for the past 2 1/2 years, which was made worse by the psychics that kept giving me hope that he would finally fulfill all his promises to me, he'd be back, I'd have my chance, blah blah blah. Thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and endless disappointment. Needless to say, he hasn't come back or ever fully stepped up to the commitment he promised. And at this point I feel I am finally ready to let go of all false hopes, see him for what he is, and move forward. Havent heard from him in months and it ended VERY badly, and hes way too much of a coward to man up so I'll most likely never hear from him again. I feel like a psycho fool, because thats how I acted, instead of accepting the reality in front of me.
So, long story short, have read with hundreds! The ONLY ones that called it with him as it happened were Aries Intuition (Kisha, on Keen) who got his behavior in the past two years to a tee, and told me
That although he did love me, he was nowhere near being ready for the kind of relationship I wanted nor would he be anytime in the future that she could see. This was 2 years ago, and, again, what got me was that she got his behaviors for the past two years exactly correct. Now, I don't believe in her for anything else because she gave me the "you have someone else coming in for you" line, which never happened despite me actively trying to go out on dates and move on. She also made a few other predictions that never came to pass, but about the bag of douche, she was correct. The other one was Anne Marie, a tarot reader out of England. Not sure of address but she has her own site of you google her. Scary accurate with details of situation and the progression. Again wrong with other stuff but right about him. I've had a few others tell me that he wouldn't be back, but they were so wrong about other details (his personality, the dynamics of the relationship, even wrong about things involving just me) that I don't give them credit-just lucky/safe guesses on their part that a couple that split up badly would stay split up. Read with alot on Live Person when I first started, total waste of money and all fakes. Then saw this board and got hooked on Keen. Read with most of the top readers, and although some of them got smaller predictions right, like contact and the bag of douche breaking things off with other girls he was talking to, but the big one that most of them saw, him coming back, never happened. And I was so hopeful because of the ones like Cookie, who could tell me the color of our cars and describe my living room, but couldn't predict the weather this afternoon. Read with some locals and some storefronts as well, same story. I love Gaylene as a person and believe that she truly tries her best to help and believes in what she does. She keeps her rates low and has always been supportive, patient, and kind no matter what condition I was in when I called. She was great at picking up current situation/feelings and small predictions, but, again, the big
One never happened. If anyone wants details on a particular psychic, just post or pm me and I'll do my best to answer. Which brings me to my final site, California Psychics. I've promised myself that this is it. Read this past month a couple times with Uli, who is supposed to be the real deal I guess. She is the only one I have or will read with on there because I don't want to fuel my addiction. I'm done. Predictions with her are all pending. Has anyone read with her? Did her predictions come true for any of you? She was very very good with personalities and the situation, and events in both my life and my relationship with him. I have no hope left but it would be nice if something came true for me and life started looking up as she predicts. I'd appreciate anything you guys can tell me about your experiences with her. Again, thanks to all of you and I wish you all the happiness that we all deserve!
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I know you said England, but just to narrow it down.....please
http://www.annemariekell.com This Anne Marie Kell is in England
http://www.tarotreading4u.co.uk There is an Anne Marie in London
http://annemarieclairvoyant.co.uk London as well.
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Hi Zee, It was Anne Marie Kell-glad you were able to find her.
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Just wanted to share a quick story with you. I know we've discussed this before but I can't find the thread.
This is about how easy it is to find someone online, and how easy it is for us to accidentally give details of our lives. For 3.5 years I had a part time job in an office. I was only there once a week for a few hours, so I never spent much time talking to the people who worked in the back, except for a couple that would come up to talk to the boss. Not that we didn't interact at all, but I never took lunches with them or really had any chance to chat. I'd come in, work and leave for another job. I was also usually the second person there so unless I had a question I had no reason to go back and talk to anyone.
The other night I met up with one of them. I had given them my business card, which has my full name on it (not a common name) and city, along with my cell. In turn, I had their email, cell and their physical address, plus I knew their full name with middle initial from work.
I was there a little over an hour and we were just chatting about silly things. But when I got home, I was able to find this person on FB in less than 15 mins simply because they handed me two little pieces of info that I didn't have before - that a sibling lived in another state and where they grew up. I had already searched on siblings and parents out of curiosity and had come up blank - mom was using a maiden name and one sibling had their info locked down. But having this other state PLUS the hometown zeroed me in. They have a common last name, and my friends first name is very common with quite a few variants. I had only tried the full name and the nickname I had heard at work. When the sibling set up the account for them though, it was set up with a nickname that I had never heard used for them (but was probably a childhood nickname) and middle name only. As soon as I found the sibling, I had my friend in seconds, searching the siblings friend list by first name.
So then I wondered how easy it would be for them to find me. I've had a coworker do a similar thing to me because they went to school with my sister and my sister had her family connections open to the public at that time (I also don't use my full name on fb). So I reverse engineered my own name and because it's uncommon enough that not many come up, I was easily able to find 3 people with open friend lists where people could find me, as long as they weren't fixated on my first/last name only. Then I wondered what info I had given my friend in conversation, and remembered I had laughed about my SIL having the same name as me, and what my brother did for a living. My brother doesn't have his work posted on FB but if he did, again it would be an easy way to me.
My point is that I wasn't trying to grill my friend for this info, we were just talking about every day stuff and of course family/friends/work/living arrangements all came up. So imagine a psychic who has our phone number because we've called them, can reverse search our area code - not bullet proof these days with cell phones, asks a quick question about a family member, etc. They do this all day every day and I'm sure they are much better at it then we can ever be.
There's a lot of info out there on us, like it or not. I discovered one of my bosses is putting our full names in a blog she writes when she wants to thank us specifically, so now a pic of her and her husband show up when I search for images with my name - creepy! I also found I had written a review for a product through work and while I didn't sign it, I must've been logged in as now those product images show up with my full name and I need to get them to remove that!
And the really funny thing was that another girl that worked the days I didn't, used to stalk the other workers on fb, but had never found my account or the person I saw the other night, because she never went beyond the traditional first/last name combo.
Food for thought.......
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My point is that I wasn't trying to grill my friend for this info, we were just talking about every day stuff and of course family/friends/work/living arrangements all came up. So imagine a psychic who has our phone number because we've called them, can reverse search our area code - not bullet proof these days with cell phones, asks a quick question about a family member, etc. They do this all day every day and I'm sure they are much better at it then we can ever be.
There's a lot of info out there on us, like it or not. I discovered one of my bosses is putting our full names in a blog she writes when she wants to thank us specifically, so now a pic of her and her husband show up when I search for images with my name - creepy! I also found I had written a review for a product through work and while I didn't sign it, I must've been logged in as now those product images show up with my full name and I need to get them to remove that!
And the really funny thing was that another girl that worked the days I didn't, used to stalk the other workers on fb, but had never found my account or the person I saw the other night, because she never went beyond the traditional first/last name combo.
Food for thought.......
Ok, some of this may be accurate but still no one can find me, no reader, no friends, no one. I don't use a nickname or my real name ever on the Internet. I have many different email addresses and signons. My cell phone isn't even in my name so a person would be hard pressed to even know what to look for. Also, most people who are in the baby boomer range are not computer literate. They just learned to turn the thing on. I can figure out how literate a person is, within two minutes or less of speaking to them about the computer. I'm a whiz with applications. I've taught myself how to download and find anything. There is almost nothing I don't have (it often times depends on how popular an item is).
A lot of people new to facebook or the computer age in general sort of believe many things they see on the internet and especially believe you have to use your real name. I have two alias on facebook (mostly for the games), because seriously they wouldn't ever know if that was the real you or not. Nor do I use a real photo.
I have even googled my real name and have had it removed from search sites and search engines. All this takes time and is very time consuming so please guys, don't start believing a reader can find you or get some information about you. It is possible, but highly unlikely unless you use the same exact logon and have given way too many details. I am extremely certain they don't know jack about me.
I'm just saying.
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Zee, I'm saying for the average person the info is out there. You really can't find fb info about me, unless you also know my family. I don't use my real name nor do I have a pic. I do have other things that have shown up, but any email I used for the psychic sites have been made specifically for those sites and were never linked to me or anything else. Most people can't spell my last name anyway so they never get anywhere.
A lot of people don't realize what is out there about them, or how easy it is to find info.
For every person who has taken pains to hide their info, there are probably 5 who don't. Some people have jobs that require their names to be out there (realtors, lawyers, doctors). Even my job is starting to push us to be featured on our blog, which I've refused, and I won't let them take pix of me or do quick interviews with me either.
Yes, there are a ton of people who have led a quiet life and just aren't out there - even younger people. But that doesn't hold true for everyone.
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sunandmoon, i have had similar concerns with getting readings from psychics on their own site. to schedule a reading you have to give them a lot of info about you - email, name, sometimes more. how easy is it to pull up at least your Facebook account if not a lot more about your life. some sites you can buy a membership and pay like 30 bucks or so and get all sorts of info on people with just their first and last name - recent addresses, jobs, credit score, etc.
did someone share this video here? i can't remember where i first saw it but its intriguing.
http://youtu.be/F7pYHN9iC9I
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sunandmoon, i have had similar concerns with getting readings from psychics on their own site. to schedule a reading you have to give them a lot of info about you - email, name, sometimes more. how easy is it to pull up at least your Facebook account if not a lot more about your life. some sites you can buy a membership and pay like 30 bucks or so and get all sorts of info on people with just their first and last name - recent addresses, jobs, credit score, etc.
did someone share this video here? i can't remember where i first saw it but its intriguing.
http://youtu.be/F7pYHN9iC9I
Truth, I saw that video here awhile back. It is intriguing.
All I'm saying is how easy it was to let a few details slip without meaning to. Neither of us were fishing for information and we've known each other for a few years now, so we don't mean harm.
I mean, you're talking to someone, and they say - hey I went hiking on this mountain range last year, what a fun time! And you say, that's great, I've never been there, but I've been here and loved that. Bam, you just gave out some info about yourself.
I'm guarded by nature. I rarely use my last name in conversation and I've taken to signing up for things just using my last initial. Because I lived alone for so long, I don't tell people much about where I live. But unless you live like a hermit, or never engage with people at all, some things are just going to come out about you. And for those that do live guarded lives, you are certainly in the minority. Like I said, one of the girls I worked with stalked every one of the employees there via fb when she was bored. She just couldn't find me or the other person because we didn't use our "normal" names, I have a fake email and she didn't have theirs.
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I've done that as well. Stalked co-workers on FB, just to see the crap they put up and to look at the happiness they claim they are in and to look at their ugly families. Once companies realized the networking potential, my employer at the time, even unblocked FB and let us go on it daily. Of course, there were monstrous people who were clueless about how they treated others and had the nerve to show everything? I found that so bizarre. Or maybe they just thought they were untouchable.
FB is allowed at my current employer, but this is a much older group and they really aren't computer savvy. I showed them how to print double-sided when I got here and they thought I was god (eye roll). These people have been here over 35 plus years and always talk about what's for lunch, 401k plans and retirement, so they were forced to know something about the computer, although minimal.
These are the sorts who I'm saying where it never occurs to them not to share everything about their lives. I've heard where people have gotten robbed because the criminal saw they were out of town via their FB page. And of course they would post all the photos of the places where they were traveling to or as it stands today, use your feed to pinpoint where you are and it shows up on your FB.
I give people information about me freely, along with my real name, all the time, I don't feel any need to be fake. I was just never into being friends with a whole lot of strangers. I'm sure if a person knows what they are looking for, and how to search, they can find anything.
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Oh geez, my friend the other night was just getting into fb. They wondered how people who had 700+ friends kept up with everyone and why you'd even want to? I have a friend who has over 1200 fb friends. That to me is just what you said, being friends with a whole bunch of strangers. I rarely request a friendship but will accept them as long as I know that person personally. Someone who knows my brother sent me a friend request and I've never heard of this person or seen them in my life. I just let them sit there.
I have all location services turned off on my phone and fb and never post pix when I'm away, although my bf is usually at my house when I'm gone anyway. I just wait till I get back and put up pix of where I was once they're all organized. A friend of a friend has a public wall and posts that she's in her "warm and cozy bed" WITH location turned on and it was very obvious by her postings that she was single and lived alone. CRAZY!
I also have a thing about friending co-workers, even if we are friends. Just seems a little odd to me, mixing work and play too much. But I know a ton of people do it.
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I also have a thing about friending co-workers, even if we are friends. Just seems a little odd to me, mixing work and play too much. But I know a ton of people do it.
Yes exactly, and I don't necessarily consider co-workers friends. Even at company events, it's only because I have to. If you search the web you'll find articles where people have gotten fired for the information on their FB, because they mixed business with their personal life. Whereas at any other time the photos posted are harmless, but it's who sees them and what they think they see. It's just so much safer/and less worrisome to have two accounts (1 biz and 1 personal), just so your employer won't have a reason to axe you.
Some people either forget or are not aware of their location setting. That is really dangerous in this day and age for a single female, with the loonies out. On a side note, I ordered some lunch from a restaurant on my way home (some hole place) and I was on the phone taking in the front seat and was starting to get out of my car. One of the employees from the restaurant I just left, was in the parking lot of the apartment complex where I lived.
He approached me and started asking about the lunch I purchased and saying he just saw me there. I just stood there for a sec and was like, did you just follow me from the restaurant? Don't friggin' think I won't call the police. That pretty much ended the conversation and he got back in his car. I never saw or heard from him again, but seriously does he really think I would have been interested (under the circumstances)? WTF!!!!
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I was friends with one of my bosses, before she became a boss. About 6 months after I was hired, I ended up deleting her. She rarely posted and had a bunch of friends anyway so I'm hoping I wasn't missed (guess I could've just hidden her from my posts but I didn't think of it at the time). But I had to think about everything I wrote, as I worked from home a lot during that time and of course when you're billing someone by the hour, you don't want them to think you're not working, but still billing.
I hear you on the creepy guy. I had a guy once follow me out from a warehouse club at night and tried to insist on helping me load my car. Normally you can't find anyone when you really need help, and here I was with only a few things and he's insisting that he's going to help me. While it may have been what it seemed, I was a little freaked out by it and I ended up walking back towards the store till he got the message and left me alone.
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It's much better to be safe than sorry. There is a well known self defense book about a girl who was raped by some guy, who insisted on helping her bring her groceries up to her second or third floor apartment.
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Not all psychics are fake. http://tarotti.com
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Bump on this too.... everyone should read this thread. from start to finish.
Some really heartfelt posts.
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I read through this whole thread again too. Thank you Bella for bumping this up.
My heart goes out to those who were misled or disappointed by psychics. Or ripped off by those pretending to be psychic. I damn sure know how it feels.
A few years ago I had closed my account on Keen and stopped getting readings. I had finally reconnected with an ex but once it happened I realized there was no way I would want him back. I felt disgusted because so many readers had told me we would get back together. I thought they were all wrong. I felt like I had wasted so much time and money. I wrote it all off as bullshit.
But none of that even compared to what I have been through since I went back on Keen. And I've beat myself up about it and wished I had never gone back. I thought what a stupid horrible mistake. After awhile I got extremely paranoid that most of these readers are just scam artists. Nothing was happening like they predicted. Often the total opposite was happening. I had lots of people telling me stuff that contradicted what the readers were telling me. It looked like the readers were all wrong.
Things slowed way down. Over a year went by where I didn't see any signs that this one situation was changing at all. It looked totally dead and done. Then out of nowhere things slowly started moving forward again. It has been exceedingly slow progress. Most people probably would have given up. I wouldn't blame anyone in a similar situation if they just wrote it off and gave up.
I don't know what the eventual outcome will be. I will not make excuses for psychics who made wrong predictions. But I know now that they were not as wrong as I thought they were. What looked like "reality" was not reality at all. And when I took actions based on what I SAW as the reality - it reinforced it and made it seem even more real.
My situation might be different from others. This is the thing, most of us don't want to give out our whole story here. It's easy to read what someone else is saying, read between the lines and then assume you know the whole story.
It's worth remembering that you don't know what you don't know. That's true of other people's lives. But it's true of our own as well. Things may not have unfolded completely yet. There can be more to come.
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I know my reply will not be popular, but I am not here for popularity, so here goes. Whatever works for you, personally, is what you have to go with. If it works for Kicking to turn the page and put this in the past, then so be it. It may not work for others, but it works for her.
All I wish to say or contribute to this thread is that hyperbole is hyperbole. "All psychics are", "none of the psychics were", "predictions never", "every prediction is", "100% of predictions", "0% of the members" - these are all hyperbole. And the truth lies somewhere between. What does that mean? It means that while it may appear that psychic predictions are not accurate to some people, it is simply that - a perception by some people. While it might be that former members have NOT come back to report on predictions there are any number of reasons why. One of those reasons could be that their psychic predictions did not manifest, but it could also be for some other reason.
I'll give you an example. I was married once. To a man that I loved dearly. He cheated. They stole everything and the only way I was able to heal was to blog about that experience. I did so daily. I blogged about as the events unfolded, each event, each incident,. day-by-day for years. Until one day I met Mr. Wonderful and the blog - out there in Cyberspace - remains just as it was that day. I never went back to complete it...although events continued to unfold. Although events turned out in my favor. Why? Because my focus was shifted. It didn't mean that nothing worked out in the end. It meant that I was distracted and by the time my life returned to its normal pace and cadence..."that" episode that prompted me to chronicle each experience became less significant.
Perception is everything. I have learned that while reading with psychics. I maintain that it is highly possible that we control whether psychic predictions manifest or not. I believe, and you are all welcome to disagree if you wish, but I believe that in order to see what so many of these talented 6th sense seers can see, it involves a paradigm shift in our own thinking. If we don't do it, chances are it might not become our reality.
So, if I were to advise anything here and today, I would simply say this. Believe what you wish. Accept the reality that is before your eyes, but remember, what you see today is what is here today. Tomorrow is completely a different case. For those of you who feel in order to debunk psychic readings you must face the cold harsh reality that you face today, please do so. But remember statements like "I know 100% he is not coming back" are simple hyperbole. If psychics have no ability to see the future, then what makes you believe you can see it either? Today's reality is today's and not tomorrow's. Open your mind to the possibility that you also cannot possibly know what tomorrow will bring.
Excellent post.