The Psychic Reviews
Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Keen.com => Topic started by: jen80 on March 13, 2013, 01:38:30 PM
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Hi guys its me again. After I saw someone on keen warning people to be suspicious of long queues I have monitored this queue fill up thing and come to the conclusion that most of the filled queues is a bunch of BS.
It hurts me so much that these readers will do anything to make a quick buck.
The people that call them are hurting and need comfort. Yes noone made them call but should you enable them and rip them off?
If you know an alcoholic would you keep giving them alcohol when they ask?. If your child or sibling was a drug addict would you blame the drug dealer if you find out that they drug dealer not only sells them the drug but also encourages them by seeking them out when they are trying to break away and telling them that nothing was wrong with it?.
Anyway I think some readers use that fill up queue as a trick.
Some of them want to give you the illusion that they are still relevant because afterall if they have been bashed and people are still filled in their queue that means they are still great right? I fell for that. To fill a queue with fake clients is very easy. It is sad that we don't see the names of people on those queues because we would see that they are fake made up names.
Another way is to fill the queue with people and advise you to use appointments which is then approved, this is in turn makes you feel special that you were able to jump ahead of all those people. Pure psycholgy people.
Another trick is for you to stay on the queue but your turn never comes. This gives you the illusion that the reader is so special.
Another illusion is the number of feedbacks. Please when you see someone with 40,000 feedbacks this does not mean 40,000 people according to the keen feedback system the longer you keep someone on the phone the more of the feedback number you get. So if you keep someone on the phone for an hour you would be getting at least 20 of those things you get added.
That being said there are trully filled queues but you will see that at times the queues are empty and the advisor has a 'call now alert' on.
The best way to evaluate a reader is by going to forums. Why not feedbacks on the reader's page? Well because a reader can fill it with fake feedbacks, clients may leave feedbacks after a feel good reading or a client may leave a feedback when little things happen but not the outcome. Or clients may write feedback because they were asked to by the readers.
I have been guilty of such things too.
Forums like this are great where we say the truth.
Have a great day at work everyone.
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This interesting and I believe it to be true. I got a callback from Joeana this morning. Her queue had 11 people in it before I joined and my callback came thru pretty quickly this morning.
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This interesting and I believe it to be true. I got a callback from Joeana this morning. Her queue had 11 people in it before I joined and my callback came thru pretty quickly this morning.
I think with joeana her queue its because of this wave of popularity new readers get. Her queue was empty before because she only comes 2 or 3 hrs a day and so people wait till she is about to come in. Kisha doesn't even bother with that she simply put up that 'send mail' thing and no one can arrange a call. Maybe she got to you fast today if the others in front of you were not available.
Giving her the benefit of a doubt because I have never seen her queue filled up before
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Why not feedbacks on the reader's page? Well because a reader can fill it with fake feedbacks,
Don't forget to mention that readers also use fake feedback to boost their points and work their way up the list of "Highest Rated". One reader who devoted years (and I literally mean YEARS) to do that was JIM1537. Personally, I think he is one of the worst psychics on Keen and it's disgusting that he has used fake feedback to get in the top ten highest rated.
that is so disgusting. I believe in karma and hurting people will only get you hurt one day.
Its just a matter of time. These people are playing with people's emotions. There are so many people on the edge and when the reader's lies are exposed the vulnerable people may commit suicide. Yes the readers will laugh all the way to the bank but blood is on their hands and they or their family will not escape it.
Nobody escapes being part of killing someone.
Its a matter of time.
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Why not feedbacks on the reader's page? Well because a reader can fill it with fake feedbacks,
Don't forget to mention that readers also use fake feedback to boost their points and work their way up the list of "Highest Rated". One reader who devoted years (and I literally mean YEARS) to do that was JIM1537. Personally, I think he is one of the worst psychics on Keen and it's disgusting that he has used fake feedback to get in the top ten highest rated.
how do you know this?
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Hi presence wow that is indeed scary. Omg these readers will do anything to reap on people's sorrow.
Thank goodness for forums like this all over the internet.
Please people investigate before you read with anybody. I know in times of sorrow its hard not to read with everything and anything that walks but please be careful.
Thanks presence for that insightful and thought proving post.
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wow, great detective work Presence! i definitely know some readers do this, but haven't been able to prove it.
i think to leave feedback you only have to have 1 paid minute. and i'm certain that readers change their rate to allow for this.
i've had some readers ask me to help bury bad feedback sometimes. they'll email me and ask me to call, they'll lower their rate so i can call and leave good feedback in place. i didn't like that sort of thing. i feel like, if you're legit then the positive feedback will soon come.
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I ve had a reader ask me to leave a feedback because it helps her 'connect' more with me. I did exactly as she asked. I left the feedback......a bad feedback. Lol
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I ve had a reader ask me to leave a feedback because it helps her 'connect' more with me. I did exactly as she asked. I left the feedback......a bad feedback. Lol
LOL GOOD
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I ve had a reader ask me to leave a feedback because it helps her 'connect' more with me. I did exactly as she asked. I left the feedback......a bad feedback. Lol
LOL GOOD
Lol haha when I use to read with MSLisam she asked me to do that ,she was busy feeding me lies
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Glad I never read w/ MslisaM. Was tempted to a few weeks ago but too expensive.
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I've been offered free minutes in exchange for good feedback before. I did it if I was going to leave good feedback anyway, but afterward it made me feel cheap. lol
And one time a reader asked me to go call one of her relatives on another listing and leave positive feedback for the call, in exchange for free minutes to call her. I said no to that one.
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Why not feedbacks on the reader's page? Well because a reader can fill it with fake feedbacks,
Don't forget to mention that readers also use fake feedback to boost their points and work their way up the list of "Highest Rated". One reader who devoted years (and I literally mean YEARS) to do that was JIM1537. Personally, I think he is one of the worst psychics on Keen and it's disgusting that he has used fake feedback to get in the top ten highest rated.
how do you know this?
I literally wanted to breakdown and cry in my reading with him today.... has anyone read with him and the information given was actually true? He said my guy was cheating on me since day 1 of our relationship. He said that he would move far away from me and if I had this baby would be in out of our child's life. I'm so messed up. I don't even know why I called him
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Jim is fake and tells everyone bad news ....horrible news! Don’t feel bad just call someone who is real
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Why not feedbacks on the reader's page? Well because a reader can fill it with fake feedbacks,
Don't forget to mention that readers also use fake feedback to boost their points and work their way up the list of "Highest Rated". One reader who devoted years (and I literally mean YEARS) to do that was JIM1537. Personally, I think he is one of the worst psychics on Keen and it's disgusting that he has used fake feedback to get in the top ten highest rated.
how do you know this?
I literally wanted to breakdown and cry in my reading with him today.... has anyone read with him and the information given was actually true? He said my guy was cheating on me since day 1 of our relationship. He said that he would move far away from me and if I had this baby would be in out of our child's life. I'm so messed up. I don't even know why I called him
Oh hes a HUGE fraud. Please dont worry <3 hes scum.
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I wish I could say I trusted this forum completely as well, but unfortunately absolutely believe people among users here are also seeking to promote some readers or their representative sites and bash others. So even this forum I definitely don’t trust 100 percent and am not sure how much to trust at all. Once a given reader has a thread of a few pages it draws more conversation and even if the content isn’t praise for the reader it’s deceptive that someone can see a reader has tons of pages on the thread and tons of views and that can draw in more readers.
Sadly I don’t trust completely anyone or anything other than my own experience. Plus I do think it’s actually possible for one person and another to have a completely different connection or no connection with a given reader. That makes the reviews difficult also.
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Thank you so much... it sucks because it's like these readers predict someone for us right. We meet the person and at the time they are like ohhh he's long term blah blah blah. Then here it is I meet him date him and our relationship has been totally unstable. I'm so tired of hurting. Why can't I meet the "one" and just be happy? Is that to much to ask?
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I wish I could say I trusted this forum completely as well, but unfortunately absolutely believe people among users here are also seeking to promote some readers or their representative sites and bash others. So even this forum I definitely don’t trust 100 percent and am not sure how much to trust at all. Once a given reader has a thread of a few pages it draws more conversation and even if the content isn’t praise for the reader it’s deceptive that someone can see a reader has tons of pages on the thread and tons of views and that can draw in more readers.
Sadly I don’t trust completely anyone or anything other than my own experience. Plus I do think it’s actually possible for one person and another to have a completely different connection or no connection with a given reader. That makes the reviews difficult also.
I agree with Flora.
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Does apply towards readers like Empathetic Ted who has a long waiting list yet people have spoken positively of him on this forum?
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Does apply towards readers like Empathetic Ted who has a long waiting list yet people have spoken positively of him on this forum?
There are no fake queues on keen. Some of the things OP says makes zero sense. Ted has a long waiting list because he isn't on as much as he used to and because he was talked about on here, so his popularity rose all of a sudden. Which sucks for me because i used to be able to talk to him same day he logged on. but now he doesn't go on as often as he used, I believe he has some personal things going on. You can't fake a queue, people are either in line or they aren't.
The system the OP was talking about number of reviews, she was confusing with point rating. So if a reader had 40,000 points, that doesn't mean that many calls or reviews. It was a rating system , so if they got a 5 start review they'd say get 3 points, if they got a 1 star they got -3. I can't remember the point system anymore, but there was a formula that was used to rate them. They got rid of it because it confused clients. Now they just have number of calls and number of reviews. The reviews shown are only for the fiscal year, all others get deleted.
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I was so confused about the whole formula that the longer they keep you on the line the number of readings increase. I think the example was: If they keep you on the line talking for 1 hour that’s 20 + readings calculated. It just didn’t make sense to me. I’ve honestly never judge by the number of readings but more on the reviews and what’s shared on here. And when I say reviews I’m talking people who have noted things coming to pass. Not “She was accurate what a great call.” But how consistent the reviews note things coming to pass. Also I myself have held off reviewing sometimes until something manifested that proved to me we connected. But that’s just my judgement. We all determine things differently.
I learned this lesson with Gabriel the Messenger and Airmonic. Who were wrong for ME.
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I was so confused about the whole formula that the longer they keep you on the line the number of readings increase. I think the example was: If they keep you on the line talking for 1 hour that’s 20 + readings calculated. It just didn’t make sense to me. I’ve honestly never judge by the number of readings but more on the reviews and what’s shared on here. And when I say reviews I’m talking people who have noted things coming to pass. Not “She was accurate what a great call.” But how consistent the reviews note things coming to pass. Also I myself have held off reviewing sometimes until something manifested that proved to me we connected. But that’s just my judgement. We all determine things differently.
I learned this lesson with Gabriel the Messenger and Airmonic. Who were wrong for ME.
So its not "readings" it's "points" so they would say get 1 point for every 15 min, 1 for each time a person topped up during a call, points for 4 and 5 star ratings, they would lose stars for missed calls, 2 and 1 star ratings. The stars were just bragging rights i guess. I really don't know why they had them. People are going to base things on actual reviews and ratings. We all have our things we look for in reading people's reviews. I also take some of the negative ones with a grain of salt, i know people can have unrealistic expectations or just simply are so miserable they want to bring others down and blame them for their problems. If i see a few different clients say the reader is really slow in reading, or repeats themselves or was rude, etc.... then i take notice and that is what will make me think twice about calling.
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I wish I could say I trusted this forum completely as well, but unfortunately absolutely believe people among users here are also seeking to promote some readers or their representative sites and bash others. So even this forum I definitely don’t trust 100 percent and am not sure how much to trust at all. Once a given reader has a thread of a few pages it draws more conversation and even if the content isn’t praise for the reader it’s deceptive that someone can see a reader has tons of pages on the thread and tons of views and that can draw in more readers.
Sadly I don’t trust completely anyone or anything other than my own experience. Plus I do think it’s actually possible for one person and another to have a completely different connection or no connection with a given reader. That makes the reviews difficult also.
The shills are easy to spot if you pay attention. I dont bother pointing them out anymore because people believe what they want to on here. Usually, its mostly people that get over excited about readers are in a desperate state---that is where the majority of the hype for certain readers is coming from. When you look back at old threads, you see that the readers were not too great afterall, or it was a mostly mixed results-like most semi-decent readers. Surprisingly, some addicts dont really give credit to the 1 or 2 readers that were accurate afterall looking back.
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I just wanted to add this on about JIm, he is a horrible reader. Told me my partner was cheating on me I said really he’s literally with me every second of the day, I said how can her we live together and he goes nowhere. He then said oh it’s because he’s not doing anything psysical 🤣😂. He’s a sick man.