The Psychic Reviews
Relationship Psychology Discussions => The Vent => Topic started by: Phantomenal on December 25, 2020, 02:54:49 PM
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Hi All,
Hope you are doing well! Just want to share a quick story about a friend of mine. She started talking to psychics about six months ago when she met a guy online. She fell really hard for him even though I as her friend noticed major red flags. She spoke to a ton of Bitwine psychics, including Leeloo, but mainly Autumn Rivers. They ALL assured her that this guy was “the one” and that they would soon meet. They went into detail about his feelings for her and thought process over months of readings. They were all VERY wrong. It turns out that this guy doesn’t even exist. It was a con artist scamming her for money and giving her completely false information. I am curious... who could these readers have been picking up on? When her friends were advising her to run these people kept assuring her that he was a great guy who would marry and have children with her. It’s alarming how off they were.
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Something like this happened to me, except he wasn’t a con, just a complete man-whore. Out of everyone I read with, I think only maybe one or two picked this up, but I of course had my rose-tinted glasses on.
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sometimes i think psychics might be reading us. does that make sense in this case??
another option is that psychics are just way off in general but they say things vague enough that seem to fit.
phantomenal, what do you think it was?
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Online love scams seems to be on the rise. I wonder whether, after she learned of the scam artist, the psychics would then realise that he's a fraud. Shouldn't make a difference tho, they should be able to pick up his character.
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Phantomenal, that is both horrifying yet unsurprising. It really does put a damper on things and also reinforces the probability of readers picking up on our thoughts and feelings. 😞
On a lighter note, MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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Is it really possible that psychics are just picking up on our own thoughts and feelings rather than POIs ? So discouraging 😣
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Thank you all so much for chiming in and Merry Christmas! If they do only pick up on one individual’s thoughts/energy then they should not be claiming to connect. Leeloo even went so far as to imply that my friend and her POI knew each other in a past life. My friend believed it hook, line, and sinker. I saw such obvious red flags about this guy that most people would have agreed with too. Unfortunately, since she was being so misled by these advisors my warnings fell on deaf ears. It actually shocks me that even as human beings these psychics didn’t simply use common sense to realize that he was scamming her. The facts my friend shared with them were what I noted as warning signs immediately. I’m very hesitant to put too much stock into my readings now. I’ve noticed that often times when a third party is involved with your POI these psychics give positive, happy endings. My friend was told by 99% of the plethora of advisors she spoke to that a fairytale ending was on the horizon. Instead she ended up heartbroken and a victim of fraud. She can never have the time back that she wasted believing she’d end up with someone who doesn’t even exist.
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Is it really possible that psychics are just picking up on our own thoughts and feelings rather than POIs ? So discouraging 😣
I think so and quite a lot of them as well and its awful because it reinforces our expectations and we keep calling and are totally set up for a fall.
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Thank you all so much for chiming in and Merry Christmas! If they do only pick up on one individual’s thoughts/energy then they should not be claiming to connect. Leeloo even went so far as to imply that my friend and her POI knew each other in a past life. My friend believed it hook, line, and sinker. I saw such obvious red flags about this guy that most people would have agreed with too. Unfortunately, since she was being so misled by these advisors my warnings fell on deaf ears. It actually shocks me that even as human beings these psychics didn’t simply use common sense to realize that he was scamming her. The facts my friend shared with them were what I noted as warning signs immediately. I’m very hesitant to put too much stock into my readings now. I’ve noticed that often times when a third party is involved with your POI these psychics give positive, happy endings. My friend was told by 99% of the plethora of advisors she spoke to that a fairytale ending was on the horizon. Instead she ended up heartbroken and a victim of fraud. She can never have the time back that she wasted believing she’d end up with someone who doesn’t even exist.
I’m so sorry to hear that happened to your friend :( can’t be easy. My reading with Leeloo makes sense now though.. I read with her when I was feeling down recently and got a really negative reading so I guess she was picking up on my fears. Now I don’t know who to even trust anymore lol
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I should also note that these psychics elaborated off of information my friend gave them.
For example, the scammer told my friend that his wife passed away and that he had two children. My friend shared this information with the advisors and they told her it was true that his wife died and he had kids. They spun a persuasive narrative that this guy would meet her this month for the first time. He had been stalling and the psychics told her this was due to insecurity and fear of getting hurt. To me it was obvious that he was hiding something. It just didn’t add up. I don’t know how they could have pulled all this from my friend’s energy because she has no children or deceased spouse.
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"My friend shared this information with the advisors and they told her it was true that his wife died and he had kids." WTF?!! It's time + hard earned money $$ that your friend won't get back. I've also had Similar psychics to those you mentioned who also gave me Bad, Bad advice. These were Telephone psychics. Those on Etsy were also giving me opposite to what eventually happened.
The positive is that, after this spell, you just Lose The Appetite for readings, since you can no longer be @rsed (better off saving), but also, dating becomes less appealing as time goes on too.
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If this isn’t a clear sign we are wasting our time and money, I don’t know what is
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If this isn’t a clear sign we are wasting our time and money, I don’t know what is
hear hear. i cannot emphasize this enough
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If this isn’t a clear sign we are wasting our time and money, I don’t know what is
Right? I mean, also take into consideration the number of people these folks chat with on a weekly basis. Plus the fact that they have no personal attachment to anyone they read for, most likely, so it’s probably not at the top of their priority list to make sure they’re giving us their best. I don’t know, I was getting so wrapped up in my readings but the actions of my POI go against what the psychics predict. At the end of the day, we are asking them to read the minds of people they have never met or seen. It’s a huge gamble. My friend spent thousands on these psychics and the only ones who benefitted were them. She paid money to lose money.
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A friend of mine was chatting to a guy who sent photos of himself and had a similar story. She sent one of the photos to Matilda and asked her to tell her about him asked questions for a email reading. She said she couldn’t read him but thought he was lying about his past and his wife and refunded my friend. But that was off a picture not just a reading
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Phantomenal, Did Angel Reading and Ari say the same thing too?
I’m not certain whether or not she has chatted with those two. Autumn Rivers was the main one she consistently spoke to.
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over 20 years ago i had one predict a relationship, described him to a tee. But never picked up that he was abusive af. What i have come to realize is one of a few things, some things we aren't meant to know certain things, they are part of our life lesson and we must go through, so the info wouldn't be presented to a psychic. Yes, they could be reading your energy instead, but i doubt that. I'm more inclined to believe that the person they are reading believes their lies as fact that they can be masked, some people know how to shield their energy from being read, some may not even know how to do it. And people with addictions or mental illness are hard to read because in the moment they can believe what they feel is true and that can change the next day. Its okay to look to a reader for guidance, but any man who asks for money should raise red flags, there are some behaviours we don't need a psychic to tell us if they are scammers.
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The scammer gave my friend a false name and birth date so the information she provided the readers was a complete lie. There were no authentic mutual feelings that these psychics could have picked up on yet they all said he was a good guy with a painful past who loved her. She had a reading with Oscar Aguilar too a while back. He also originally said this guy was “the one” but in a reading with him a few weeks later he flip flopped and said it was actually a different guy who she’d also meet online. She talked to many psychics but the ones who stood out to me were Leeloo and Autumn due to their respected reputations. None of them detected any red flags about his character.
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I find it hard for anyone to have feelings for someone they have never met in person. I don't think it is real. They are in love with idea of a new love. Maybe the readers were picking up on someone they have not met yet.
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I find it hard for anyone to have feelings for someone they have never met in person. I don't think it is real. They are in love with idea of a new love. Maybe the readers were picking up on someone they have not met yet.
This was someone who was communicating with her via phone/text for six months... he also sent videos and pictures. He made a fake ID and military tags to dupe her. It was a very elaborate and skilled scam. She was naive, yes. When you fall for someone though as they say, love is blind. I mentioned earlier too that these psychics elaborated on the false narrative that the scammer was giving her. It was very specific things that were bogus.
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Merry Christmas everyone!
So I haven't had a reading in while, because for me, I've learned that even though some psychics can pick up little things, or small predictions come to pass, they are off on the bigger picture. But I do have two separate stories related to online dating and online dating scams that are related to what the original poster had written.
I used to read with a reader once in a while about my POI, who was an ex. And during our readings (about a year ago-Dec 2019 to early 2020, she kept picking up this new guy-she described his occupation and what not. Well things didn't work out with my POI, so I decided to give online dating a shot. I wound up meeting this new guy she described and I would get readings about him. My logical brain thought to get readings on this new guy since this reader was able to pick him up. This reader never told me this new guy was the one, but made it seem like something would happen. The more I read with her, the more she was unsure about this guy-she thought the potential for a relationship was there, but thought he was hiding something. So I read with other readers about this guy, and most of them said he's holding back, but there is potential there and things could work out. Well nothing every happened with this guy-we spoke for a few months on and off and he kept saying how he wanted to be together and all that, but he disappeared one day and I never heard from him since. It's funny though, bc when I would read with this reader about this new guy, she was seeing another guy too and described him by his age and job too. I wound up meeting this guy online as well, and even though he "checked all the boxes," I just wasn't attracted to him and didn't pursue it further.
I find it interesting how this reader could pick up all these guys I'd meet, and it never amounted to anything. I always thought if these readers pick up on these guys it must be significant enough to turn into something, but for me it didn't work out like that. And it reiterates how they can pick up small things, but are off on the bigger picture.
Also, I have found that thee are some online scammers these days. I have since deleted the dating apps, but recently I was a potential victim of an online scam. I was talking to a guy I met on a dating app, and things weren't adding up and things seemed off. So one day I decided to google it, and found out that this was a popular scam, and everything that came up in the google search, this person was telling me. He never asked me for money, and if he did, I wouldn't give it to him anyway.But I feel like if I kept talking to him, that he eventually would.
The funny part is that when I would call these readers about the original guy I met online, when I would say we met online, many of them would quickly ask if I sent him money. So I guess these scams are common
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readings are truly for entertainment purposes...
im glad 95% of my reading was\is about business
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The scammer told my friend that he was deployed overseas in the military and that’s why he had to delay meeting her in person *eye roll...* Leeloo told her that she saw them meeting this month and it would go well. It’s very interesting that not one of the psychics my friend spoke to, many several times, never saw this ending badly. It was all positive.
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"readings are truly for entertainment purposes..." But should come with a health warning. Particularly if the results will be damaging, as it is here. :'(
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over 20 years ago i had one predict a relationship, described him to a tee. But never picked up that he was abusive af. What i have come to realize is one of a few things, some things we aren't meant to know certain things, they are part of our life lesson and we must go through, so the info wouldn't be presented to a psychic. Yes, they could be reading your energy instead, but i doubt that. I'm more inclined to believe that the person they are reading believes their lies as fact that they can be masked, some people know how to shield their energy from being read, some may not even know how to do it. And people with addictions or mental illness are hard to read because in the moment they can believe what they feel is true and that can change the next day. Its okay to look to a reader for guidance, but any man who asks for money should raise red flags, there are some behaviours we don't need a psychic to tell us if they are scammers.
I agree with all of this. I asked questions during my readings and was never presented with a clear cut answer. I can get on board with the universe blocking answers to these questions to encourage us to figure things out for ourselves and follow our own intuition. Boston also brought up a valid point, as well. People have gotten readings where the person asks about a specific POI and the reader has consistently picked up on a future energy that was not yet present. I think Sparkles actually had this happen at one point, if I'm not mistaken. It is also very possible, as I mentioned earlier, that they were feeding off of your friends energy. You did mention that she was super into this guy so it is definitely possible they were picking up on her instead and just relaying her own feelings, thoughts, etc. Mental illness can most definitely play a factor in these readings, too. I mean, we can speculate pretty much anything with these readers and that's where we need to use our own intuition and also take the things they say with a HUGE grain of salt. Readings are intended for entertainment purposes only, but we tend to get them when we're at our most vulnerable and hang on to every word with hope that everything the reader is saying is true. So, I really can empathize with the pain your friend must have felt after finding out the truth about this guy.
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I just think “readings are for entertainment purposes only” is such a redundant statement. The vast majority of people getting readings are varying levels of ‘worried’ and not looking for entertainment and readers know this very well. I also think the true answer is that their abilities are more limited than we or they acknowledge.
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I just think “readings are for entertainment purposes only” is such a redundant statement. The vast majority of people getting readings are varying levels of ‘worried’ and not looking for entertainment and readers know this very well. I also think the true answer is that their abilities are more limited than we or they acknowledge.
💯 agree.
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If we look at the extortionate costs of phone lines - enough to pay a Lawyers bill, that statement does not justify the high costs, particularly when the end result is so very damaging. Most of us can't afford these bills.
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i’m definitely guilty of leaving (many) great reviews after hearing simple, general things that applied in my situation. i think that many readers get thousands of good reviews and come to believe their BS guesses off the top of their head are genuine abilities. innocent mistake when everyone seems happy with your work.
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i completely agreed their ability is very limited andvwe shouldn't expect them to tell us how when why, even they do we really should add a lot of salt
we must take control of life ourselves
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I just think “readings are for entertainment purposes only” is such a redundant statement. The vast majority of people getting readings are varying levels of ‘worried’ and not looking for entertainment and readers know this very well. I also think the true answer is that their abilities are more limited than we or they acknowledge.
I wish there was a like button .
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i don’t know if it’s just a matter of integrity and connecting.
for example domine candrews has said she is not able to connect with me numerous times. she never has been able to. but the reviews in this forum indicate that domine isn’t even considered very good (when i personally know she will turn away money for failure to connect).
dino has also declined to read for me before due to inability to connect. but even when he has been able to, his predictions flopped for me.
when a reader is connected, they nevertheless have no way to tell between true and false info so i currently think even good, connected readers share tons of bad info. for example, someone (serenity) was correct that POI would ask me for photos after our long estrangement but literally nothing else she said came to pass besides that. numerous dates, names, specific events and places all zilch.
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Guys.
99.99% of people on Bitwine are KNOWN scammers or someone who got a pack of cards one day and is trying to make a little side hustle. The same can be said for Keen, CP, Psychic Source. Your best bet is those with their own storefronts, people who are known via word of mouth and work quietly
I don't know where you got the idea that Autumn Rivers and LeeLoo were considered the good ones??
Besides, anyone who's had any sort of success with LeeLoo has read with her off of her own site and not bitwine for what it's worth.
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Guys.
99.99% of people on Bitwine are KNOWN scammers or someone who got a pack of cards one day and is trying to make a little side hustle. The same can be said for Keen, CP, Psychic Source. Your best bet is those with their own storefronts, people who are known via word of mouth and work quietly
I don't know where you got the idea that Autumn Rivers and LeeLoo were considered the good ones??
Besides, anyone who's had any sort of success with LeeLoo has read with her off of her own site and not bitwine for what it's worth.
A lot of people have had success with Leeloo actually. Autumn is 50/50
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"Your best bet is those with their own storefronts, people who are known via word of mouth and work quietly."
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Spot On! They are hard to find tho. From experience, the most accurate for me was actually those who either charged a small, nominal amount, or were free. The most expensive, unfortunately, were not accurate. Certainly not on phonelines.
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"Your best bet is those with their own storefronts, people who are known via word of mouth and work quietly."
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Spot On! They are hard to find tho. From experience, the most accurate for me was actually those who either charged a small, nominal amount, or were free. The most expensive, unfortunately, were not accurate. Certainly not on phonelines.
Agreed! ❤️
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@Anon you’re absolutely right!! I hate those $38/min readers 🙄. I used to think those would be the best and I quickly learned no those are usually the fakes looking for a quick buck.
Exactly and it's unethical, too! It's quite startling how anyone could justify those high rates. 🤦🏼♀️
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@Anon you’re absolutely right!! I hate those $38/min readers 🙄. I used to think those would be the best and I quickly learned no those are usually the fakes looking for a quick buck.
Exactly and it's unethical, too! It's quite startling how anyone could justify those high rates. 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah the few I’ve found to be most spot on (with present, at least) are a fraction of the cost as the pricier advisors. I’ve spoken with a couple of newer ones who’ve gone into so much more detail at a reasonable rate. Every time I’ve talked to the more expensive ones I haven’t felt that it’s been worth the money.
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I hope this is a lesson for your friend to not go to psychics again. How embarrassing they got played like that, by the psychics and the catfish
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Hi All,
Hope you are doing well! Just want to share a quick story about a friend of mine. She started talking to psychics about six months ago when she met a guy online. She fell really hard for him even though I as her friend noticed major red flags. She spoke to a ton of Bitwine psychics, including Leeloo, but mainly Autumn Rivers. They ALL assured her that this guy was “the one” and that they would soon meet. They went into detail about his feelings for her and thought process over months of readings. They were all VERY wrong. It turns out that this guy doesn’t even exist. It was a con artist scamming her for money and giving her completely false information. I am curious... who could these readers have been picking up on? When her friends were advising her to run these people kept assuring her that he was a great guy who would marry and have children with her. It’s alarming how off they were.
These people don't actually see anything. Best to save your money and live your life.