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Title: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on January 12, 2019, 02:01:43 AM
Ok i have stayed away from getting a reading from these platforms but was shocked at some of the prices per min these readers are asking for.  Have any of you used them and do you feel it was worth the price?

Empath Malia @ $11.11
Terry Mitchell @ $8.99
Psychic Love 411 @ $9.00
Miss tula @ $8.99 - i actually had a reading with her was not impressed and it was while her rate was much lower and i did a special she had on the weekend.
Amazing♥Love♥Readings @ $7.99
Andrew @ $8.90
Psychic Patty Ann @ $19.99 (say what?!?!?)
Cali @ $6.99
Stephanie Theresa @ $6.99
Miss Elena @ $7.99
Lovely Safire @ $6.99 (this one makes no sense because she has per block times that is less than doing a 3 min per min read.)
AnnetteMarie @ $8.99
DanitaWindSong @ $6.99
Psychic love Vision @ $6.99
Psychic rebeecca @ $8.99
Love Whisperer @ $20.00 (i can't believe ppl charge this high)

I know that other platforms they charge even more per minute but then again that's why i would stick to bitwine.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: jhuskindle on January 12, 2019, 02:08:28 AM
In fairness it takes 50% last i was on. So think of it that way maybe.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on January 12, 2019, 02:19:14 AM
I know and that totally sucks.  BUT some of these high priced people don't have the amount of raving reviews to back it up.  So my question really is has anyone been willing to gamble paying that price for a reading and was it worth it.

That Patty Ann one is almost always on and available.   If you aren't getting the clients wouldn't it make sense to at least offer a special for first time callers? I mean its better to make something than nothing. 

The funny thing is with the site taking such a big cut the under a dollar is really not making anything.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Ninacy on January 12, 2019, 12:09:04 PM
Most of these are not even good enough to justify such high prices. Out of this list, perhaps I would try Stephanie Teresa because I've had a couple of people telling me she is good and ethical. The rest look like money hungry readers with little to none psychic ability...
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: jhuskindle on January 12, 2019, 03:43:06 PM
Some price high to look better, it’s a marketing tactic. People think you get what you pay for. The review get worse as your price goes up, just FYI from readers perspective. People are harder on you, especially if you don’t paint a fairytale for them.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: HornetKick on January 12, 2019, 04:42:32 PM
People should be harder on higher priced readers. They have to be consistent with a lot more people at what they charge and need to deliver more consistently, which they don't and almost always refuse to give refunds. That is how you know it's a crock and that no reader is worth those prices.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Ninacy on January 12, 2019, 06:19:37 PM
From my experience, any reader that charges too low too much for reading is shady or hiding something--the ones who charge too low are either scammers looking to entice people to gain a free buck or not very comfortable in their abilities and the ones who charge too much are simply greedy and proud (and many of these may be frauds as well). If someone wants to really help people without being taken advantage of, they will charge fair prices for both parties e.g let's say $5-10 per question or $1.99-3.99/minute. Anything more or less than that is suspicious to me. The ones that have been the most accurate for me, were in this fair and middle range.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on January 12, 2019, 06:44:31 PM
I don't know if that is fair to say.  If you are starting out and have no reviews or barely any, why wouldn't you start low until you get the reviews to back up your talent.  I've seen readers start at $1 and as they get more reviews the price reflect it.  Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: HornetKick on January 12, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
I don't know if that is fair to say.  If you are starting out and have no reviews or barely any, why wouldn't you start low until you get the reviews to back up your talent.  I've seen readers start at $1 and as they get more reviews the price reflect it.  Just my opinion of course.
Agree. I was just going to say this, but you beat me to it. Very low prices mean the reader wants to get their feet wet, at least that is how I look at it. Later when they become very popular, and have a larger client base, their prices will and do increase.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Abundantia on January 13, 2019, 08:30:28 PM
Don't do it!!! I would say :-)

I did a reading once with a scammer called lovepsychic Michael S and it was a load of *RUBBISH* for $21 per minute. I was only going to go on for a minute but the 3 free minutes suddenly froze and then suddenly I was right into the paid part.

I had a reading with Rebeecca and it was 100% wrong. I gave her a positive review as it sounded nice at the time but I'm at the other side of predictions not panning out now.

Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: PinkyD on January 13, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
Idk about those ppl, I tried to get a reading from Lovely Safire not too long ago, she advertised a $10 deal, this is how it went :

  Hello
Jan 3, 2019 20:16 PM

 

Lovely Safire

hi
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

Hi
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

 

Lovely Safire

how are you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

I'm okay, this is my first time with you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

I saw your $10 deal
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

 

Lovely Safire

how m ay I help you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

Have a few questions in terms of marriage for 2019,kids if /when you see them for me and also, career

Those things basically
Jan 3, 2019 20:19 PM

My name is ******* ******  dob *******
Jan 3, 2019 20:19 PM

Can we do the $10 deal?
Jan 3, 2019 20:20 PM

Hello?
Jan 3, 2019 20:21 PM


((((SHE HUNG UP, THEN I CALL BACK)))



Hello
Jan 3, 2019 20:22 PM

 

Lovely Safire

yes
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

Hi I'm not sure what happened there
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

Was asking about your $10 deal ?
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

 

Lovely Safire

i think i am muych zleepy
Jan 3, 2019 20:24 PM

Okay another day then
Jan 3, 2019 20:24 PM


👀🤔 Sigh
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: ladya on January 13, 2019, 08:53:42 PM
Idk about those ppl, I tried to get a reading from Lovely Safire not too long ago, she advertised a $10 deal, this is how it went :

  Hello
Jan 3, 2019 20:16 PM



Lovely Safire

hi
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

Hi
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM



Lovely Safire

how are you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

I'm okay, this is my first time with you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

I saw your $10 deal
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM



Lovely Safire

how m ay I help you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

Have a few questions in terms of marriage for 2019,kids if /when you see them for me and also, career

Those things basically
Jan 3, 2019 20:19 PM

My name is ******* ******  dob *******
Jan 3, 2019 20:19 PM

Can we do the $10 deal?
Jan 3, 2019 20:20 PM

Hello?
Jan 3, 2019 20:21 PM


((((SHE HUNG UP, THEN I CALL BACK)))



Hello
Jan 3, 2019 20:22 PM



Lovely Safire

yes
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

Hi I'm not sure what happened there
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

Was asking about your $10 deal ?
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM



Lovely Safire

i think i am muych zleepy
Jan 3, 2019 20:24 PM

Okay another day then
Jan 3, 2019 20:24 PM


👀🤔 Sigh

Lmfaoooo whatttt I think they were sleeping and you woke them up
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on January 13, 2019, 09:31:17 PM
Idk about those ppl, I tried to get a reading from Lovely Safire not too long ago, she advertised a $10 deal, this is how it went :

  Hello
Jan 3, 2019 20:16 PM



Lovely Safire

hi
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

Hi
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM



Lovely Safire

how are you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

I'm okay, this is my first time with you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

I saw your $10 deal
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM



Lovely Safire

how m ay I help you
Jan 3, 2019 20:17 PM

Have a few questions in terms of marriage for 2019,kids if /when you see them for me and also, career

Those things basically
Jan 3, 2019 20:19 PM

My name is ******* ******  dob *******
Jan 3, 2019 20:19 PM

Can we do the $10 deal?
Jan 3, 2019 20:20 PM

Hello?
Jan 3, 2019 20:21 PM


((((SHE HUNG UP, THEN I CALL BACK)))



Hello
Jan 3, 2019 20:22 PM



Lovely Safire

yes
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

Hi I'm not sure what happened there
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM

Was asking about your $10 deal ?
Jan 3, 2019 20:23 PM



Lovely Safire

i think i am muych zleepy
Jan 3, 2019 20:24 PM

Okay another day then
Jan 3, 2019 20:24 PM


👀🤔 Sigh

Img i almost peed a little reading that.  I can't believe she was half asleep even admitted it and was logged on to take calls.  Smh
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: HornetKick on January 13, 2019, 10:15:23 PM
Why couldn't that reader just say she didn't feel there was a connection rather than just hanging up and making up some obviously stupid shit to say?
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: PinkyD on January 14, 2019, 03:26:32 AM
Why couldn't that reader just say she didn't feel there was a connection rather than just hanging up and making up some obviously stupid shit to say?

Exactly, because I saw her remain online and "busy" intermittently for the rest of the night 🤷‍♀️ I'm not ever trying her again, I was /am new to bitwine and her reviews seemed good, I'll never find out 🙅🏻‍♀️🚶‍♀️
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Abundantia on January 14, 2019, 04:11:46 AM
Wow I think she could win the Oscar for weird Bitwine experiences!!
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: jhuskindle on January 14, 2019, 04:45:02 AM
Im sorry guys sometimes the bitwine taskbar opens and you cant see it then it rings and you have to answer or you get a bad mark, unless of course you block them. So if you answer and hang up, as in an accident, maybe she was attempting to logout or set it to busy as you called back. I know its confusing but this f!*@^#^g bitwine taskbar drives me nuts even to this day. I was on the potty the other day and got one in, I havent been on in YEARS! I had to block them or I'd get a bad mark.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on January 14, 2019, 11:19:26 AM
Regardless of who takes it the client is the one who pays it.  Its one thing if that's what you charge and you are accurate with readings but another if you don't have the reputation to back it up.  That was my point for the thread.  Wanted to see if anyone had used these pricey readers and felt it was worth it.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on March 11, 2019, 10:33:42 AM
Omg I am sorry.you paid that crazy price and she was wrong.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: happyk on March 11, 2019, 09:32:25 PM
Miss Elena was the first psychic on bitwine I read with but she was 100% wrong. And it's not just time frame being pushed but exactly the opposite. Even the emotions she picked up were wrong which was verified later. I tired reading with Danita whatever but man was she b*tchy. Definitely not wish the price. I asked her if we were connected and she got pissed and told me off and blocked me.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: happyk on March 11, 2019, 10:35:43 PM
Miss Elena was one of the first readers I read with on bitwine before I knew the term “fairytale” reader and she encompasses that role to the finest. I should look for my chat to post on here.
Ditto. I almost want to compare our transcripts.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on March 11, 2019, 10:44:06 PM
Danita told you off?!?! WTF!!!!  These people are unbelievable.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: happyk on March 11, 2019, 10:50:17 PM
Danita told you off?!?! WTF!!!!  These people are unbelievable.

Yep. When I told her to let me know if we connect she told me to read her reviews and that she doesn't want to read for me, she's not the reader for me yada yada yada... These people want our money but don't even care to be at least be cordial.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Spaceship29 on March 12, 2019, 01:05:53 AM
I typically catch high priced readers during the half off hour.

Ive read with lovely and she's strangely been accurate. I only visit every 3 mos. Ive never paid $6.99 only the $10 deal
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on March 12, 2019, 01:28:12 AM
I typically catch high priced readers during the half off hour.

Ive read with lovely and she's strangely been accurate. I only visit every 3 mos. Ive never paid $6.99 only the $10 deal

Who did you read with?
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Spaceship29 on March 15, 2019, 02:01:05 AM
I typically catch high priced readers during the half off hour.

Ive read with lovely and she's strangely been accurate. I only visit every 3 mos. Ive never paid $6.99 only the $10 deal

Who did you read with?

I Dont remember everyone but lovely Safire was who I referred to in my post
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Xrossbow on April 28, 2019, 11:06:51 AM
Hi there

Im new to the site and have been reading threads a lot before replying as I wanted to learn the ropes so to speak and here I am on this thread.

I will say that to the comment I read about a reading saying they werent totally awake, a few people I read with stay logged in 24/7 and so logically speaking if I call at a certain time, I would be waking them up so maybe that is what happened, I remember calling Malia and she didnt recognize me because she asked for my name and I said, what??    and you dont remember me?????    and she was like, oh yes, sorry I was asleep.

Terry Mitchell who now charges $9.99 per min by the way runs a charity and a gift giveaways group on Facebook  where he claims (I am not a member)   to spend ALL of his earnings on those in need so based on that I wouldnt say he is money hungry though I have had hs events and only 1 happened so far but its only been a month.   

Miss Elena is the BIGGEST fraud on the planet, am I allowed to say that here?    Well, anyways, I asked her to connect to me with only my name and she told me about my husband and my baby and guess what?   I am a lesbian so she got that wrong, she tried to then say, oh yes, I felt masculine energy so it would be a lesbian or butch woman, shouldnt a psychic know the difference?

The only thing I want to know from reading this thread is about Jhuskindle or whatever the screename is, you answer as if you are a reader on bitwine?    Are you hiding behind a name, what is your name there?    :)    or am I misunderstanding?     

ok so about me, I am sure there is an introductions section but my name is Savannah, yes, thats my real name, yes Im really gay...Im Wiccan and I am not a psychic   :)     I personally do not know if anyone is at this point but time will tell, I have a few predictions out there, a few timelines that have been set and I will be posting about my experiences, I actually want to call every reader on bitwine and get predictions and then post about the outcome but that takes time and money!!

Thanks for reading this

Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: mayflower on April 28, 2019, 01:17:51 PM
Miss Elena was the first psychic on bitwine I read with but she was 100% wrong. And it's not just time frame being pushed but exactly the opposite. Even the emotions she picked up were wrong which was verified later. I tired reading with Danita whatever but man was she b*tchy. Definitely not wish the price. I asked her if we were connected and she got pissed and told me off and blocked me.
When she realized in the free minutes that i don’t want to pay high for her promotion, she jumped in to the conclusion shortly by saying that your guys are not soul mate and not meant to be together. Seriously?! How short it was to end conversation.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on April 28, 2019, 04:15:36 PM
That's what always gets me.  They charge so high and its a bogus reading.  That's why i rather try someone new at a lower price then risk it with someone who is priced high.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: happyk on April 28, 2019, 11:59:50 PM
Ya guys. We need to be really careful on bitwine and Keen. So many of them are nothing but bs. You can call me a bitwine expert. I might've read with more than half of them.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: PinkyD on April 30, 2019, 08:10:05 AM
Ya guys. We need to be really careful on bitwine and Keen. So many of them are nothing but bs. You can call me a bitwine expert. I might've read with more than half of them.

Yeppp Bitwine especially and their management protects the fakes 🙄
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Sweetsydney2000 on May 11, 2019, 02:58:09 PM
Terry Mitchell is expensive yes but legit. I trust him. He has said very specific things that I could verify & also I've had predictions come to pass. I've also heard nothing but good things about Stephanie Theresa. The others on this list however big thumbs down.

What was his timeframes like for you? He told me that my boyfriend wants to contact me but won’t anytime soon. Which was weird because we haven’t really been more than a few weeks without talking for years.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on May 11, 2019, 03:25:29 PM
That's what he said? He didn't give you a time frame? This is what i am saying of I am paying those prices i better get an accurate and specific time frame.  Not some vague response that anyone can say.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Xrossbow on May 16, 2019, 02:51:31 PM
Terry told me that he does not do timeframes because people have free will, in other words if your boyfriend is going to call you  tomorrow but changes his mind or gets distracted by something, no one can really predict that and I kinda agree, I think these readers who do give timeframes are all full of shit, how many of them come to pass?    This will happen in June and then I see on boards, like bitwine that theu did not happen?

So, I think that saying he does not do timelines is more honest than trying to give a fake one to make us feel good.   

Also he told me that predictions happen within an hour to as long as 3 years later....
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on May 16, 2019, 03:01:31 PM
Terry told me that he does not do timeframes because people have free will, in other words if your boyfriend is going to call you  tomorrow but changes his mind or gets distracted by something, no one can really predict that and I kinda agree, I think these readers who do give timeframes are all full of shit, how many of them come to pass?    This will happen in June and then I see on boards, like bitwine that theu did not happen?

So, I think that saying he does not do timelines is more honest than trying to give a fake one to make us feel good.   

Also he told me that predictions happen within an hour to as long as 3 years later....

I never read with him but i wouldn't pay almost $10 a minute to be told something that can happen 3 years from now.  Just saying.   Yes and the free will thing although i know it changes thing.... i feel at times they use it as a cop out to why their predictions don't happen. 
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: persephone on May 16, 2019, 03:15:55 PM
This free will is an excuse for not being able to see the future.
If you can see the future, then you can see people’s actions.
If free will “comes up” in the predictions, how come they can’t see that from the beginning???
So psychic X makes a prediction to person Y. The prediction does not come to pass.
Psychic’s X excuse is the “free will”.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: sawthelight on May 16, 2019, 03:23:19 PM
This free will is an excuse for not being able to see the future.
If you can see the future, then you can see people’s actions.
If free will “comes up” in the predictions, how come they can’t see that from the beginning???
So psychic X makes a prediction to person Y. The prediction does not come to pass.
Psychic’s X excuse is the “free will”.

I agree.  Predictions are pointless with the whole free will thing.  It might delay actions, but won't stop them entirely.  what's the point in hearing someone will call tomorrow if they change their mind tomorrow?
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: happyk on May 16, 2019, 03:47:26 PM
This free will is an excuse for not being able to see the future.
If you can see the future, then you can see people’s actions.
If free will “comes up” in the predictions, how come they can’t see that from the beginning???
So psychic X makes a prediction to person Y. The prediction does not come to pass.
Psychic’s X excuse is the “free will”.

P, I agree with you 100%. I'm losing my faith in these psychics. At least, for now I'm not gonna get any readings. What a waste of time.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: journalmuse on May 16, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
This free will is an excuse for not being able to see the future.
If you can see the future, then you can see people’s actions.
If free will “comes up” in the predictions, how come they can’t see that from the beginning???
So psychic X makes a prediction to person Y. The prediction does not come to pass.
Psychic’s X excuse is the “free will”.

I agree.  Predictions are pointless with the whole free will thing.  It might delay actions, but won't stop them entirely.  what's the point in hearing someone will call tomorrow if they change their mind tomorrow?

I think free will for the most part is a cop out, UNLESS they are an energy reader or an empath or a gift like this. I think this is actually a flaw with not having a better understanding of a psychic's unique gifts. If someone is an energy reader or an empath and they say, based on what I am seeing today, if this continues here is what will happen. But if that energy changes and something else actually happens, well, that would be understandable. But if someone is a clairvoyant or gets guidance from spirit, someone who should see the final outcome, I think free will is a cop out. They should be able to see the way in which a person will exercise their free will.

That being said, obviously everybody does have free will. But I believe in destiny too. I think sometimes, really big things in our lives are meant to happen. How we get there may not be a straight line from point A to point B (for instance, I'm destined to go to Subway tonight, but whether I get there by riding my bike or taking the bus, and exactly what time I get there, is up to me).
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: candiednut on May 16, 2019, 03:55:14 PM
Agreed. No point in getting readings jf things can change "any time" . I can tell you the same things for half the price lol! And no matter what happens I will be "accurate" ;)
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: sawthelight on May 16, 2019, 03:57:31 PM
I've had some readers predict very exact things that happened, like when a person would reach out and the like..which was pretty cool.  But how come they seem so inaccurate with final outcomes?  Which is ultimately what most of us want to know...maybe we aren't supposed to know?  does that make sense? lol
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: persephone on May 16, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
Toria on Bitwine used to tell me that a lot.
“ he is free to change his mind anytime.” Then how can you say that you’re accurate if free will is in the picture???
Whenever you hear the free will crap, end the reading. It’s total BS.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on May 16, 2019, 04:11:54 PM
So many great points made here! 👍👍  this is what this forum was made for.  To share opinions without attacking anyone for theirs.  Now what is this about specific gifts are the ones who should be able to pick up the finish line? This is very helpful to know what to look for in a reader.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: journalmuse on May 16, 2019, 04:21:03 PM
So many great points made here! 👍👍  this is what this forum was made for.  To share opinions without attacking anyone for theirs.  Now what is this about specific gifts are the ones who should be able to pick up the finish line? This is very helpful to know what to look for in a reader.

I honestly think this is best understood by asking a psychic how their gifts work. It's not like being a mathematician, where 2+2 will always equal 4 no matter who does the calculation ... people have different gifts, some people have more than one that they combine, others' gifts may just work differently than other people, may be weaker or stronger in some areas. Unfortunately this is the downside to platform readers, nobody wants to spend $20 talking in depth about how their gift works.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: sawthelight on May 16, 2019, 06:07:40 PM
Yes they have different gifts but IMO if they know they don't have a gift for predictions they should leave that alone. Big difference between saying "He's missing you and thinking about calling you" versus saying "He will call you this weekend."

Where a lot of readers get themselves in trouble is they make definite predictions based on picking up on something that may change like thoughts, feelings, intentions. Saying that any particular thing will happen based on that is just a guess. Pretty much no one contacts a psychic to hear guesses.

Even with a clairvoyant, sometimes the visions they see are totally accurate, but then they try to put a story around it and they misinterpret what it means. And sometimes they see things that already happened but they misinterpret it to be the future and make a prediction based on it. Big difference between saying "This is what I see..." versus "This is what will happen."

Ideally a psychic should just report what they see/hear/sense without embellishment, and avoid making guesses or claims based on their own personal interpretation. Unfortunately most tend to embellish, so as a client you have to figure out which part of what they said is real psychic information, and which part is just a guess or extrapolation. And a lot of times you won't know the difference until you see what actually happens.

It shouldn't require a whole lot of explanation though to understand what kind of reading you are getting. Any specifics they think you should know about how they work should be in their listing, so it doesn't take up time during the reading. If you start the reading and they go into long explanations of how their gifts work or how you should understand their predictions, my advice is to end the reading and find someone else.

All a psychic needs to do is tell you what they are picking up, and avoid making claims that are beyond the reach of their gifts. It really shouldn't be that complicated. If there is something special you need to "understand" about how they give readings, it means they have probably had a lot of people report back that they weren't accurate.

Well said
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: journalmuse on May 16, 2019, 06:11:42 PM
Yes they have different gifts but IMO if they know they don't have a gift for predictions they should leave that alone. Big difference between saying "He's missing you and thinking about calling you" versus saying "He will call you this weekend."

Where a lot of readers get themselves in trouble is they make definite predictions based on picking up on something that may change like thoughts, feelings, intentions. Saying that any particular thing will happen based on that is just a guess. Pretty much no one contacts a psychic to hear guesses.

Even with a clairvoyant, sometimes the visions they see are totally accurate, but then they try to put a story around it and they misinterpret what it means. And sometimes they see things that already happened but they misinterpret it to be the future and make a prediction based on it. Big difference between saying "This is what I see..." versus "This is what will happen."

Ideally a psychic should just report what they see/hear/sense without embellishment, and avoid making guesses or claims based on their own personal interpretation. Unfortunately most tend to embellish, so as a client you have to figure out which part of what they said is real psychic information, and which part is just a guess or extrapolation. And a lot of times you won't know the difference until you see what actually happens.

It shouldn't require a whole lot of explanation though to understand what kind of reading you are getting. Any specifics they think you should know about how they work should be in their listing, so it doesn't take up time during the reading. If you start the reading and they go into long explanations of how their gifts work or how you should understand their predictions, my advice is to end the reading and find someone else.

All a psychic needs to do is tell you what they are picking up, and avoid making claims that are beyond the reach of their gifts. It really shouldn't be that complicated. If there is something special you need to "understand" about how they give readings, it means they have probably had a lot of people report back that they weren't accurate.

Agree with pretty much all of this. My basic point is that I think a lot of people don't completely appreciate that gifts are different and unique among readers, one person is not necessarily as talented as another, and understanding how to get the best out of a reading with one specific person, especially one you aren't familiar with, isn't always the easiest to do. Being an informed consumer on psychics is like trying to walk through a mine field, haha.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Xrossbow on May 17, 2019, 01:49:27 AM
I dont know what to tell you, the reader that gave me the reading about the plane told me that if I sat in a different seat or cancelled the flight I would be ok and so that is what I did, I had a free will choice to cancel or sit somewhere else, the plane still crashed (well a crash landing but close enough)     so...I don't have a belief in destiny, to me you call a psychic to find out what is coming so that you can change it.

I had a reader once, Linda Masson?   something like that, told me that I would be robbed at the ATM if i went at night so I went in the daytime and nothing happened but I did hear about a mugging at the ATM that I was to be at...so my free will actions did change that event but the mugging happened.

if I ask if someone is thinking of calling me and a psychic says, yes, he will call tomorrow but he may get distracted and call the next day, I dont see that as a cop out at all...but thats me...

I do appreciate all of your beliefs but I have called a ton of readers so it makes perfect sense to me  :)     
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Love2lovenj on May 17, 2019, 03:04:32 AM
I dont know what to tell you, the reader that gave me the reading about the plane told me that if I sat in a different seat or cancelled the flight I would be ok and so that is what I did, I had a free will choice to cancel or sit somewhere else, the plane still crashed (well a crash landing but close enough)     so...I don't have a belief in destiny, to me you call a psychic to find out what is coming so that you can change it.

I had a reader once, Linda Masson?   something like that, told me that I would be robbed at the ATM if i went at night so I went in the daytime and nothing happened but I did hear about a mugging at the ATM that I was to be at...so my free will actions did change that event but the mugging happened.

if I ask if someone is thinking of calling me and a psychic says, yes, he will call tomorrow but he may get distracted and call the next day, I dont see that as a cop out at all...but thats me...

I do appreciate all of your beliefs but I have called a ton of readers so it makes perfect sense to me  :)     

I don't think the cop out is referring to a prediction on timing being off a bit. Now when they say in a week and a month goes by and nothing happens then they say free will that's another story.  Since basically what they predicted never happened.
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Xrossbow on May 19, 2019, 03:29:13 AM
of course, thank goodness that my predictions didnt take 3 years, I believe he said that 3 years is possible but not the norm, I had my "events" read a few weeks ago and already 8 of 10 have happened so to be honest if the other 2 happen in 3 years or not at all, Id still consider this reader to be a good guide for me, I personally like him and a couple others on the site so I will be calling them at least for now....

I like readers who tell me what is coming and then tell me how to avoid it so I can change it and thats what Linda, Terry and Maria do. 

I think I will call all 3 and test them tonight, I will ask if my mom is planning to call me tomorrow, now she often calls me on Sunday because its her church day and after church she calls to tell me what the sermon was about but sometimes she gets distracted, I am not sure why not knowing what a person will do invalidates a reader?     

How can even a psychic know what a person will do with their free will?    Maria told me that my girlfriend (not Gwen)  was thinking about cheating on me but she might or might not, she has free will and I found out she was right, she had the thougts, she ultimately decided not to, does that Maria isnt a real psychic?   then how did she know that Ali was thinking of cheating on me?    Again I think we expect psychics to be perfect or know everything or never be wrong...

I called Jamey today, not sure of her last name now?   I asked her for a prediction that would happen today to prove her abilities, she told me I would be asked to a dance, I was not asked to a dance but then I was talking to my friend Bill and he said that he had been given 2 tickets to a dance and he had thought to invite me but changed his mind, to ME that was a HIT, she knew about the dance, she saw the invite but he changed his mind because he has free will.   

Whatever, I dont care what other people believe, I answered because I am one of Terry's clients and I wanted to speak of my experiences.    cheers!
Title: Re: Bitwine and the high priced readers....
Post by: Sweetsydney2000 on May 19, 2019, 03:32:38 AM
of course, thank goodness that my predictions didnt take 3 years, I believe he said that 3 years is possible but not the norm, I had my "events" read a few weeks ago and already 8 of 10 have happened so to be honest if the other 2 happen in 3 years or not at all, Id still consider this reader to be a good guide for me, I personally like him and a couple others on the site so I will be calling them at least for now....

I like readers who tell me what is coming and then tell me how to avoid it so I can change it and thats what Linda, Terry and Maria do. 

I think I will call all 3 and test them tonight, I will ask if my mom is planning to call me tomorrow, now she often calls me on Sunday because its her church day and after church she calls to tell me what the sermon was about but sometimes she gets distracted, I am not sure why not knowing what a person will do invalidates a reader?     

How can even a psychic know what a person will do with their free will?    Maria told me that my girlfriend (not Gwen)  was thinking about cheating on me but she might or might not, she has free will and I found out she was right, she had the thougts, she ultimately decided not to, does that Maria isnt a real psychic?   then how did she know that Ali was thinking of cheating on me?    Again I think we expect psychics to be perfect or know everything or never be wrong...

I called Jamey today, not sure of her last name now?   I asked her for a prediction that would happen today to prove her abilities, she told me I would be asked to a dance, I was not asked to a dance but then I was talking to my friend Bill and he said that he had been given 2 tickets to a dance and he had thought to invite me but changed his mind, to ME that was a HIT, she knew about the dance, she saw the invite but he changed his mind because he has free will.   

Whatever, I dont care what other people believe, I answered because I am one of Terry's clients and I wanted to speak of my experiences.    cheers!


I tried to speak to Jamey yesterday but she couldn’t connect 🙄 I like Terry. What’s he been like with timeframes for you?