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Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Keen.com => Topic started by: peppie on December 26, 2017, 09:48:25 PM
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i'm afraid to do it but i think i need to.
help!
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Why are you afraid? You said everyone has been wrong for you, so you are not losing anything. If you havent found one or two readers you can semi-trust, close it.
I keep mine open because there are a few I like and found trustworthy.
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Do it peppie! I’m planning on closing mine too. But I’m #4 with friend sue :D. It’s been a month. After I read with her I will shut Keen down 8)
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Do it peppie! I’m planning on closing mine too. But I’m #4 with friend sue :D. It’s been a month. After I read with her I will shut Keen down 8)
haha! Can I tell you I'm less than 10 now with LadyPersephone ... I waited over 1.5 months. I am now in line as a joke as I'm not calling someone I don't know.
I feel safer when I have someone who can analyze waht's going on, even if it's not psychic. I'm super afraid I'll panic after I shut down my account. I did that a year ago. I shut it down and freaked. I'm in a better place now to do so because everyone was wrong and so I am a bit traumatized by that.
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Also, there's this weird phenomena where even though i knew everyone was wrong, I view my favorites with rose colored glasses. I can't see it. I honestly don't know what that is.
And one more thing. I'd like to remind everyone that as much as you would like to think your favorites care about you they are there to make money. They are profiting off of you and don't care less. If they did they wouldn't keep giving you wrong information. They would refund your money when they find out they are wrong. Other than a handful of readers (very few) most are milking you for your money.
I actually have one reader who is still trying to get me to send him money and he was WRONG about EVERYTHING. I actually think wow the nerve of that guy.
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Also, there's this weird phenomena where even though i knew everyone was wrong, I view my favorites with rose colored glasses. I can't see it. I honestly don't know what that is.
And one more thing. I'd like to remind everyone that as much as you would like to think your favorites care about you they are there to make money. They are profiting off of you and don't care less. If they did they wouldn't keep giving you wrong information. They would refund your money when they find out they are wrong. Other than a handful of readers (very few) most are milking you for your money.
I actually have one reader who is still trying to get me to send him money and he was WRONG about EVERYTHING. I actually think wow the nerve of that guy.
Like wire him money? Who is this reader?
I personally don't get too attached to readers. Its a matter of liking the service they provide in exchange for the money I pay. If I feel its not worth it, I stop paying and going to them. Its slippery territory to think you are friends with someone you are paying money to talk to.
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Do it peppie! I’m planning on closing mine too. But I’m #4 with friend sue :D. It’s been a month. After I read with her I will shut Keen down 8)
haha! Can I tell you I'm less than 10 now with LadyPersephone ... I waited over 1.5 months. I am now in line as a joke as I'm not calling someone I don't know.
I feel safer when I have someone who can analyze waht's going on, even if it's not psychic. I'm super afraid I'll panic after I shut down my account. I did that a year ago. I shut it down and freaked. I'm in a better place now to do so because everyone was wrong and so I am a bit traumatized by that.
Read with Lady P off her site, if you are going to. Don't keep Keen open for her, her site is much more reasonable and she can usually schedule you the same day.
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Do it peppie! I’m planning on closing mine too. But I’m #4 with friend sue :D. It’s been a month. After I read with her I will shut Keen down 8)
haha! Can I tell you I'm less than 10 now with LadyPersephone ... I waited over 1.5 months. I am now in line as a joke as I'm not calling someone I don't know.
I feel safer when I have someone who can analyze waht's going on, even if it's not psychic. I'm super afraid I'll panic after I shut down my account. I did that a year ago. I shut it down and freaked. I'm in a better place now to do so because everyone was wrong and so I am a bit traumatized by that.
Read with Lady P off her site, if you are going to. Don't keep Keen open for her, her site is much more reasonable and she can usually schedule you the same day.
i'm not going to call her. i just keep my name in line just as a joke at this point. the last thing i need is a new reader!!!!!
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Do it peppie! I’m planning on closing mine too. But I’m #4 with friend sue :D. It’s been a month. After I read with her I will shut Keen down 8)
haha! Can I tell you I'm less than 10 now with LadyPersephone ... I waited over 1.5 months. I am now in line as a joke as I'm not calling someone I don't know.
I feel safer when I have someone who can analyze waht's going on, even if it's not psychic. I'm super afraid I'll panic after I shut down my account. I did that a year ago. I shut it down and freaked. I'm in a better place now to do so because everyone was wrong and so I am a bit traumatized by that.
Read with Lady P off her site, if you are going to. Don't keep Keen open for her, her site is much more reasonable and she can usually schedule you the same day.
i'm not going to call her. i just keep my name in line just as a joke at this point. the last thing i need is a new reader!!!!!
oh ok
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@Fluttershy and Peppie
I have been exactly where you are at. I was focused ONLY my ex and psychics and couldn't function. My business was failing, I couldn't pay my bills, I drained my savings and I felt like there was something seriously wrong with me. I would get so anxious I would shake. It was horrible!
I don't remember exactly the day it happened, but I started to look back at all of my readings and it really sank in that nothing happened as they said it would. In my gut I knew he was never coming back and I had felt this for months. I felt it but it didn't stop me from getting readings. One of my last readings with Keisha she told me that this may not be the best for me (this guy) and that when he does come back he won't give me what I wanted and deserved. She actually PM'd me to tell me that even though something may happen, doesn't mean its the best thing for me. At the same time I was once again realizing that this guy wasn't good for me. From that point forward I started to cut back on the calls. I haven't had a reading in over a month. I didn't stop all at once. I went from 10 calls a day, to 5, to 3 to 1 then 3 a week, 1 a week etc. I got to the point that when I did call, I knew what they were telling me was bullshit. Why was I calling? I don't know. Habit? Addiction? Who knows. I can't tell you why. Even now, when I get the urge to call I don't because the urge passes when I remind myself that nothing is going to come of these readings. I'm wasting my money.
The bottom line for me is I KNEW there was something underlying for the reason I was calling and hanging on to this guy. I kept searching online for addiction, obsessing over an ex, how to let go etc. Finally I found Susan Anderson and it resonated with me. I also started working again from Louise Hays book "You can heal your life". Between the two, I finally go. I don't obsess anymore nor do I have that craving to call.
Ladies (and gents) this is an addiction. Bottom line. At one point I found some 12 step AA worksheets that I did and replaced the alcohol with readings. I'm also a recovering alcoholic FYI. I remember when I started getting bad drinking, I would think this isn't normal to drink so much. Its NOT. It's also not normal to call psychics as much as we do. There is a underlying reason you do and you have to figure out what that it. For me, it was lack of self worth and abandonment/rejection issues. You will have to find your reason but I guarantee there is a reason and it's not that you're just crazy. You're not. Remind yourself of these things and keep repeating them to yourself 1000 times a day if you have to.
1) I do not have to call at this minute - Just for today, I will not call (if you have to say "just for this minute, I do not have to call" then do it)
2) Nothing has come true from these readings (nothing substantial)
3) You've spent HOW much money? (count it up if you have to. I didn't do that, I was too scared to know)
4) He's not coming back PERIOD (If he was coming back, he'd be here already) This one is a hard one because it hurts like hell at first. You're finally admitting it's over
5) I am worthy of more
6) Ask God (or whoever your higher power is) for strength to not call but to believe in him (I didn't mention God in my healing but he did help. I finally broke down and admitted I wasn't trusting him but wanted to so bad and needed help)
This is what helped me. I was highly addicted to readings. One month I spent $4000. In ONE MONTH. Thats why I won'd add up what I've spent. I would probably kill myself if I did :)
You both know you have a problem and you both want to stop. That's your first step. Bravo!!!
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Very sorry you’re going through this...
I know it’s really hard to stop.
I’m having a hard time quitting too! But I need to! I would like to!!!
This year for Christmas I got big sacks of metaphorical lumps of coals... metaphorically.... from my family. Withs lots of talking. I let bills slip and have payed them. I have given nothing but focus only on my ex and Psychics- and in return I’ve suffered. Made my family suffer. Pointlessly suffered, again... and yet again. It’s been so so so heavy in my heart, and my consciousness. I suck.
If I wasn’t driven by this trauma who I would be?
Who would I be if I wasn’t someone trying to get over my?
And I feel like tried everything and have failed. Therapy, hypnotherapy, group counseling, sex and love addiction groups... so again I have to pick myself up and try them... yet again. I feel even resentful in trying to get help. But the judgement is there again...
But I also can’t live this anxiety anymore- constant fear of quickly making money then spending it- sigh not even on clothes... but psychics... not even on gambling but psychics.
Where was I on this rant... right quitting Keen. It also causes me lots of anxiety too.
I believe for me- if I let go of my ex, a new love can come in. If I let go of Keen and psychics God will provide- it always has! So I’m right there with you on this.
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Great post Baypark...I'm so happy for you that you've stopped calling and realized you deserve better ;D
I so agree on the money aspect. Shit, I don't want to know either.
Another thing is, if the POI does come back, he will, whether you get readings or not. So let things happen the way they are meant to and let life flow naturally, before you started relying on readings to predict every step and then get depressed when things don't pan out the way they said they would.
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Great post Baypark...I'm so happy for you that you've stopped calling and realized you deserve better ;D
I so agree on the money aspect. Shit, I don't want to know either.
Another thing is, if the POI does come back, he will, whether you get readings or not. So let things happen the way they are meant to and let life flow naturally, before you started relying on readings to predict every step and then get depressed when things don't pan out the way they said they would.
To add to this. I also firmly believe that getting so many readings screws up the outcome. I honestly do. When I first started getting readings 5 years ago on the first POI, all said he would be back. He did come back and also in the month they said he would. I only got maybe 6 or 7 readings over a 9 month period that time. The other 2 POI's I had a million readings on and neither one came back.
I believe in the obsessing energy and it pushes them away. After a while, they finally really move on because we are still hanging on to them with that needy obsessive energy.
This is just MY opinion and MY beliefs. All I know is when I wasn't obsessing, the guy came back. When I was obsessing, he didn't.
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I agree with you on that as well!!
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Do it peppie! I’m planning on closing mine too. But I’m #4 with friend sue :D. It’s been a month. After I read with her I will shut Keen down 8)
haha! Can I tell you I'm less than 10 now with LadyPersephone ... I waited over 1.5 months. I am now in line as a joke as I'm not calling someone I don't know.
I feel safer when I have someone who can analyze waht's going on, even if it's not psychic. I'm super afraid I'll panic after I shut down my account. I did that a year ago. I shut it down and freaked. I'm in a better place now to do so because everyone was wrong and so I am a bit traumatized by that.
Peppie, you have lost your own power and faith in yourself. You do NOT need someone to to analyze things for you. You are giving the psychics the power over your life. If all have been wrong, why continue to give them power and control over you and your life? You are strong enough to do this on your own and if you believe in God, then he can help you! Hell, I'll analyze your life for you and charge you $3/minute, then put it in a savings account for you :) Do a google search on trusting yourself and your intuition. You've totally got the power to do it and you'll end up doing better in your life when you rely on you and your own instincts. Yeah, you may make a mistake or bad choice here and there, but you'll be a hell of a lot richer!!!! :)
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Wise words, Baypark.
Trusting intuition is big but it's so hard to do in the grip of anxiety.
I wanted to share this, I really like Veronica Isles. I know its hokey or whatevs but i think she's so great, she makes me smile.
She does this 'What If' video with the LOA stuff to make your mind go into a more positive spin. But its like really smart because the process is also to free up your brain from obsession and worry and make it be more open to other things. I really like this :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8I_eyVaxW4
One thing I kind of did with this what if vid is like i made it so i do what if for a lot of other things in my life. One of them is , What if my intuition is really strong? What if my intuition is stronger than these reads I get? What if I already know a lot of what i'm getting a read about? what if i already know? etc. When i get all anxious, i start to do it for a few mins, and it works. It needs consistency. We're not going to get ourselves/intuition back right away. Its like having to win the trust of ourself again after we've wounded it by totally discrediting it and letting someone else be the intuition. it makes me sad that i did this to myself.
I tried it for a week.... i swear it works like amazing. I got all these confirmations.
Just also to add, i think it's hard to just starve out the need and not call entirely. Like it's a thing that you take away from yourself. You have to give yourself something else to replace it, otherwise you are just starving yourself and thats why sometimes the cold turkey thing with addiction doesn't work. The well has to be filled. A recovery process has to be tapped into, otherwise you're just sitting there losing your damn mind :o
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Thanks Beesa, I am going to try this!!
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I have been off keen for the last 4 months, and honestly it has been the best decision I made last year I use to read with at least 3 readers a day or have 10 readings a week. What helped me with my addiction is coming to terms that I don't want my ex anymore because he treated me like shit. It took my ex 11 months of no contact for him to reach out to me to apologize for everything that he has done and how I was special and blah blah and even with him knowing all that he got some girl pregnant. So, I came to terms that he never cared and he is still a piece and what's the point of wasting my money and being broke because I purchased readings
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i'm afraid to do it but i think i need to.
help!
Good luck, Peppie!
I have been off keen and other psychic sites for over a month now; I went through psychic addiction for about 4 years. Here was my recipe to end that nightmare:
#1. I got completely exhausted/emotionally drained by quick relieve (when getting readings) - anxiety (a few days after, while wondering if the predictions will really come true) - sadness/apathy/depressive moods (when witnesing nothing coming to fruition) cycle. About 90%of all readings were about a man Iwas interested in and at some point Isimply got tired of that pitiful state I have been in for too long; that in turn led me to my next step
#2. After hearing numerous times that my poi will contact me and I should have some patience, I had enough and decided to get all the clarity myself by reaching out to that man and asking him to meet and ask him pretty much all the questions I was asking psychics about him. I texted him and we met, and here is a very powerful thing occured when I met him: I got very present to the fact that most, if not all, psychic readings put us into another dimention, like an alternate reality in wich we start to believe certain things about people we ask about. Like in my case I was meeting my ex still thinking that he likes me a lot and that deep inside he wants to recconect and didn't forget about me, however when I actually met him - it became clear almost right away that he has moved on, moreover he was sharing his plans for the future and I was nowhere near it. I didn't even ask him the questions I wanted to ask him, because it was not even appropriate in that moment - everything was clear without words.
After that meeting I wasn't calling psychics for about 4 months. I think actually meeting a guy to check with him where we stand was THE MOST powerful thing Ihave done to stop that addiction. The questions that I was asking psychics about were all answered.
However, over 4 months later, I run into my ex again, accidentally. He was sweet and flirtatious with me, and said, "hey, we should get a drink", but even though I was open to it, he made no actual plan to meet and never called/texted after that meeting. That should have been enough for me an indication that he didn't actually mean what he said, but silly me, I got lost in a forest of 3 trees, ugh...and called psychics again. and dumped close to $4k in a month
Close to all psychics told me I was going to hear from my ex, a few said I won't. Most memorable was a reading with QoC. After she told me that my ex won't come back, I asked her about possibilities in the next few months. She answered, "Nah, I see you seating around, patiently waiting for the guy, believing he will reach out to you. He wants nothing to do with you though". It was painful to hear her saying that, but now I can't thank her enough for doing that.
I stopped getting readings and started to heal again.
#3 All november and pretty much every day in december I have been reading posts here (I really wish I had discovered this forum long ago, but I only found it at the end of september), I espcially enjoy reading old posts and posts written by members who have been here for awhile. It looks like some folks actually did move on, no longer enchanted by psychic readings and rarely check in here, good for them! I found it benefitial to read posts like, "almost all were wrong" and some posts just made me get really present to what a horrific impact that adiction had on people's life. Like when people were given a false hope for years while their poi were dating others, getting engaged, getting married. One of the first posts that had in impact on me was: http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1337.0.html
I am extremaly greatful for people having courage to share their true life stories here. I know the pain many of you were writing about - reading it definitely played a huge part in my working through addiction. Using the guidance of a truly gifted psychic, takes wisdom, takes knowing how to ground yourself, how to keep yourself balanced, how to use their guidance to create and NOT EVER FORGETING that we and not psychics create our future. The way I was getting readings was definitely unhealthy.
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thank you everyone. i haven't replied in a few days because i've been processing what everyone has been writing.
it has really helped. thank you. i'm not writing back to specific posts but they are really helping. i have to process how i'm going to get out of this mess.
angelina's post was scary because it's true we are not getting the truth but making decisions in another dimension. ugh and probably making a fool of ourselves when we act out of what a psychic tells us, too.
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sometimes i start feeling really anxious or worried about things and then i want to call keen.
tonight as i felt the anxiety rising up (i wanted to get validation), i said to myself talk through it. i thought about it and thought wow there are so many real assholes out there that should be embarrassed about how they have acted - people who have done some really bad things to other people and they should totally feel bad. but they don't! and they just get up and move on and we look at them like wow really? but they live with themselves, people forgive them and they don't bat an eye. they keep thriving and surviving with all these people judging them and they are oblivious or clueless.
i realized if they can move on without feeling horrible about the REALLY stupid embarrassing or even unethical things they did .... well i didn't do anything horrible at all... surely i can get up and be like oh well, as well.
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1+ weeks no readings...
it's probably a good idea i avoid going on keen at all right now. the urge just takes over you know?
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1+ weeks no readings...
it's probably a good idea i avoid going on keen at all right now. the urge just takes over you know?
Woohoo!!! This is a HUGE accomplishment!!! Go reward yourself with a new outfit, manicure or massage :)
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i bought myself a big old expensive jar of ... vitamins (yes vitamins) and a big old bottle of wine. i have a long way to go yet.
on the way walking home i began to get huge cravings. :( i realize though once i start i can't stop so i can't even call one.
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i bought myself a big old expensive jar of ... vitamins (yes vitamins) and a big old bottle of wine. i have a long way to go yet.
on the way walking home i began to get huge cravings. :( i realize though once i start i can't stop so i can't even call one.
I have this site block extension on my chrome so anytime I want to go to keen it takes me to buzzfeed. Honestly it's working :D
SMART!
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i bought myself a big old expensive jar of ... vitamins (yes vitamins) and a big old bottle of wine. i have a long way to go yet.
on the way walking home i began to get huge cravings. :( i realize though once i start i can't stop so i can't even call one.
I have this site block extension on my chrome so anytime I want to go to keen it takes me to buzzfeed. Honestly it's working :D
SMART!
i'm having a really bad moment.... i really want to call.
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i bought myself a big old expensive jar of ... vitamins (yes vitamins) and a big old bottle of wine. i have a long way to go yet.
on the way walking home i began to get huge cravings. :( i realize though once i start i can't stop so i can't even call one.
I have this site block extension on my chrome so anytime I want to go to keen it takes me to buzzfeed. Honestly it's working :D
SMART!
i'm having a really bad moment.... i really want to call.
I've just sent you a private message; Please be strong there!!!
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thanks angelina. i'm smarter because i don't give myself room to make mistakes. however, in those bad moments i want to call so badly it scares me. i keep then thinking why did i cut up my cards? why did i do this?
it's really overwhelming.
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One of the first posts that had in impact on me was: http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1337.0.html
I read this entire thread and there are some magnificent posts here; thanks for sharing Angelina. One of the frequent posters in this thread was Sagitira, so I looked her up and found her final posting:
http://www.thepsychicreviews.com/forum/index.php/topic,1846.msg27002.html#msg27002
Peppie, there are some great book suggestions in there that may help. If you can distract yourself with something you want more than the short-term relief from readings then you are on your way to beating this.
I haven’t had a reading for over two months now and have been focusing on making me happy. One thing that’s helped me is listening to back-to-back Abraham-Hicks videos on YouTube. There are tons on there and these can keep you entertained for days on end. I’m also a big fan of Joe Dispenza and I highly recommend his book “Breaking the habit of being yourself”. Beliefs are just a habit and we have the power to change them and attract something much better in our lives, I’m convinced of this now. In fact, the teachings of these two dovetail nicely together.
We’re at the end of one year and the start of another. Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself? This is was what did it for me. I have decided to take matters into my own hands and I already feel better for it.
Best of luck everyone, and happy new year. May it be a life-changing year for us all where we form new healthy habits and easily let go of the ones that hold us back from living our best lives.
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Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself?
This is huge. Yes, when I think about that I am REVOLTED. Absolutely revolted.
Thanks, Cooper28. Thanks Angelina, thanks Baypark, everyone.
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Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself?
This is huge. Yes, when I think about that I am REVOLTED. Absolutely revolted.
Thanks, Cooper28. Thanks Angelina, thanks Baypark, everyone.
Exactly. That was a huge wake up call for me.
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Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself?
This is huge. Yes, when I think about that I am REVOLTED. Absolutely revolted.
Thanks, Cooper28. Thanks Angelina, thanks Baypark, everyone.
Exactly. That was a huge wake up call for me.
oh i'm so glad you quit calling psychics, too, sawthelight! congrats!
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We’re at the end of one year and the start of another. Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself? This is was what did it for me. I have decided to take matters into my own hands and I already feel better for it.
I've had this thought before and it stops me up short, too. But it's always the dream of, two more months to hold on and things will change, then another two, then another two, etc. It's such a cycle.
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We’re at the end of one year and the start of another. Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself? This is was what did it for me. I have decided to take matters into my own hands and I already feel better for it.
I've had this thought before and it stops me up short, too. But it's always the dream of, two more months to hold on and things will change, then another two, then another two, etc. It's such a cycle.
what happens when you think the cycle never ends. in a year, i'm here and nothing's changed. i wasted $X and i'm still in the same place.
that thought alone is bad enough that I am like I can't do it. I can't call again.
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We’re at the end of one year and the start of another. Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself? This is was what did it for me. I have decided to take matters into my own hands and I already feel better for it.
I've had this thought before and it stops me up short, too. But it's always the dream of, two more months to hold on and things will change, then another two, then another two, etc. It's such a cycle.
what happens when you think the cycle never ends. in a year, i'm here and nothing's changed. i wasted $X and i'm still in the same place.
that thought alone is bad enough that I am like I can't do it. I can't call again.
Yeah. I'm approaching that point. I've already drastically cut back to a couple readings a month, instead of a couple a week. It's much healthier that way. But I still get into anxious periods where I do a bunch in a row and that's where I trip myself up. I'm still trying to figure out what it is that trips me to go to that place, because if I can figure that out I can deal with it in a better way.
I've begun thinking about every time I want to pay for a reading, instead put it into a savings account that I'll use for a trip next year. I do better when I can be goal-focused like that. Because I can afford the readings I get, it's not bankrupting me or putting me in debt. It's just that it's a waste of money, ultimately, and that's frustrating and demoralizing.
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We’re at the end of one year and the start of another. Imagine if your situation is still the same this time next year, if you’re still calling and you have not changed. How would you feel about yourself? This is was what did it for me. I have decided to take matters into my own hands and I already feel better for it.
I've had this thought before and it stops me up short, too. But it's always the dream of, two more months to hold on and things will change, then another two, then another two, etc. It's such a cycle.
what happens when you think the cycle never ends. in a year, i'm here and nothing's changed. i wasted $X and i'm still in the same place.
that thought alone is bad enough that I am like I can't do it. I can't call again.
Yeah. I'm approaching that point. I've already drastically cut back to a couple readings a month, instead of a couple a week. It's much healthier that way. But I still get into anxious periods where I do a bunch in a row and that's where I trip myself up. I'm still trying to figure out what it is that trips me to go to that place, because if I can figure that out I can deal with it in a better way.
I've begun thinking about every time I want to pay for a reading, instead put it into a savings account that I'll use for a trip next year. I do better when I can be goal-focused like that. Because I can afford the readings I get, it's not bankrupting me or putting me in debt. It's just that it's a waste of money, ultimately, and that's frustrating and demoralizing.
i agree and thank you for taking the time to write this. wow - amazing support here that i didn't expect!
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thanks angelina. i'm smarter because i don't give myself room to make mistakes. however, in those bad moments i want to call so badly it scares me. i keep then thinking why did i cut up my cards? why did i do this?
it's really overwhelming.
It will get better...one day you won't even care about calling anymore and you'll wonder why you ever did.
It helped me a lot to distance myself from people who drove me to call. People who give a lot of mixed signals, people who gaslight. In my job I couldn't do much about it until circumstances changed but once I no longer had to work for an asshole things got a lot better and I stopped calling so much. Other things I had more choice over though. I had to completely distance myself from my ex for awhile because every little thing he did would upset me. Now it doesn't bother me so much. I stopped talking to some family members for awhile who were upsetting me. I left this forum too for awhile when some of the attitudes were getting to be too much. There was a coworker I used to talk to a lot but then I realized it brought me down so I stopped.
Many things I changed because I realized it was contributing to making me want to call more. All these different situations added up, some small ones and some big ones until I was just so overwhelmed I couldn't deal with it anymore so I would call.
I realized bottom line I spent too much time around people who either got me to doubt myself, or just didn't give much emotional support and sometimes that can make you feel worse than just being alone. It would add up until I just felt desperate for someone to validate me because I was feeling bounced around between all these people who didn't. It is a normal thing that we look for validation and support in our relationships with other people and if it is not coming, or if they invalidate you then it increases the need.
Sometimes the best thing to do is to turn to yourself and look for that validation inside you. It can help if you have someone good to talk to that you can trust, but don't fully rely on it, rely on yourself because other people can never fully understand you like you can yourself. You are the only one who can really see and analyze things from your own perspective. Other people can give valuable perspectives, but no one else will ever be able to give you YOUR perspective.
When we have too much input from others, it can get confusing. What happened for me when I called psychics was a reflection of other relationships in my life, people who were giving me their opinions too much and not listening to my views. People who acted like they knew better. People who didn't empathize with me or acted unfeeling or insensitive to my feelings. People who were gaslighting me or giving me mixed signals or contradictory information. It got to a point where it was just too much. Then I would call readers desperate for some support or validation and a lot of them would just give me the same crap. They would BS me or act patronizing or contradict themselves. It was a pattern and it didn't change for me just by trying to stop calling. I had to look at everything about how I was interacting with people, what I was allowing or putting up with and what I was missing that I was trying to get from calling. I started standing up for myself more to certain people and then others I just stopped talking to because I had enough. And then others I learned to ignore their behavior or just see it as foolishness instead of taking it to heart.
Also, I started having a lot of health problems, and I do not wish this on anyone but it was the ultimate wake up call and I am grateful for it. It pulled my attention away from situations that had been consuming my energy, suddenly I didn't give a rats ass anymore what my ex had to say and I saw just how rotten it was he couldn't even ASK how I was doing especially after I spent so much money trying to find out what was going on with him. Same with various other people, it showed me real fast who cared and who didn't and why should I waste a minute or spend a dime even wondering about someone who doesn't care.
I was unable to work or even take care of myself for awhile and I damn sure wished that I had all the money I spent on readings tucked away in a savings account. I will be okay financially, but it could have been so much worse. I say this because the irony is, we get readings to find out what will happen in the future, when saving that money would be so much better for your future security. Even if you earn a lot, which I don't, far from it, you are better off saving it or putting it to some other practical use, for your own self and for your future. You never know what might happen and the readers don't know either. Calling for predictions is a total waste of money in my experience. There are other reasons to get readings, and sometimes it has helped me a lot but it is still very expensive.
everything you wrote here REALLY resonates with me. thank you so much for taking the time to write this. i can't tell you how much i apprecaite it and yes - it's as if you are writing what i want to say but i don't know how to write it.
i hope things look up for you but i just get the feeling they are... thank you for taking the time to share your experiences. i 100% resonate with this.
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You are so welcome peppie, and I am glad it resonates, but in a way sorry too because I wish no one would ever have to be in anything like the situation I have been in. Things are looking up for me though, it does get better.
it has to! i can tell by what you write that you're coming back up. what you've written makes me feel like someone gets it and understands the pressures of dealing with, for example, an asshole boss. and the word gaslighting. i've been using that a LOT with people realizing that when they can't deal with their own issues, they try to make it about YOU and your issues. or they try to question YOU, but it's REALLY THEM.
i love how you are taking a stand for yourself and i am learning how to, too.
there are a lot of shitty people out there who want to hurt other people, esp those who don't hurt other people. but it's good you and i are learning it's THEM not US and that we're learning to set stronger boundaries. there are some really manipulative people out there that will try to invalidate your experiences because they are mean spirited and bullies. i'm learning how to validate myself and how to be able to identify when someone is trying to re-write history for their own purposes. aka blame me for something they have done.
i LOVE what you wrote and it REALLY touched me. thank you.
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i'd like to add that calling some psychics makes things worst.
for example, queen of cups18. i think she's a very hurtful person. she uses your doubts and insecurities to hurt you on subsequent calls. a lot of psychics have a few bolts loose.
beware!
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i'd like to add that calling some psychics makes things worst.
for example, queen of cups18. i think she's a very hurtful person. she uses your doubts and insecurities to hurt you on subsequent calls. a lot of psychics have a few bolts loose.
beware!
I agree with you on QOC. I personally think she’s a very unhappy woman.
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@Fluttershy and Peppie
I have been exactly where you are at. I was focused ONLY my ex and psychics and couldn't function. My business was failing, I couldn't pay my bills, I drained my savings and I felt like there was something seriously wrong with me. I would get so anxious I would shake. It was horrible!
I don't remember exactly the day it happened, but I started to look back at all of my readings and it really sank in that nothing happened as they said it would. In my gut I knew he was never coming back and I had felt this for months. I felt it but it didn't stop me from getting readings. One of my last readings with Keisha she told me that this may not be the best for me (this guy) and that when he does come back he won't give me what I wanted and deserved. She actually PM'd me to tell me that even though something may happen, doesn't mean its the best thing for me. At the same time I was once again realizing that this guy wasn't good for me. From that point forward I started to cut back on the calls. I haven't had a reading in over a month. I didn't stop all at once. I went from 10 calls a day, to 5, to 3 to 1 then 3 a week, 1 a week etc. I got to the point that when I did call, I knew what they were telling me was bullshit. Why was I calling? I don't know. Habit? Addiction? Who knows. I can't tell you why. Even now, when I get the urge to call I don't because the urge passes when I remind myself that nothing is going to come of these readings. I'm wasting my money.
The bottom line for me is I KNEW there was something underlying for the reason I was calling and hanging on to this guy. I kept searching online for addiction, obsessing over an ex, how to let go etc. Finally I found Susan Anderson and it resonated with me. I also started working again from Louise Hays book "You can heal your life". Between the two, I finally go. I don't obsess anymore nor do I have that craving to call.
Ladies (and gents) this is an addiction. Bottom line. At one point I found some 12 step AA worksheets that I did and replaced the alcohol with readings. I'm also a recovering alcoholic FYI. I remember when I started getting bad drinking, I would think this isn't normal to drink so much. Its NOT. It's also not normal to call psychics as much as we do. There is a underlying reason you do and you have to figure out what that it. For me, it was lack of self worth and abandonment/rejection issues. You will have to find your reason but I guarantee there is a reason and it's not that you're just crazy. You're not. Remind yourself of these things and keep repeating them to yourself 1000 times a day if you have to.
1) I do not have to call at this minute - Just for today, I will not call (if you have to say "just for this minute, I do not have to call" then do it)
2) Nothing has come true from these readings (nothing substantial)
3) You've spent HOW much money? (count it up if you have to. I didn't do that, I was too scared to know)
4) He's not coming back PERIOD (If he was coming back, he'd be here already) This one is a hard one because it hurts like hell at first. You're finally admitting it's over
5) I am worthy of more
6) Ask God (or whoever your higher power is) for strength to not call but to believe in him (I didn't mention God in my healing but he did help. I finally broke down and admitted I wasn't trusting him but wanted to so bad and needed help)
This is what helped me. I was highly addicted to readings. One month I spent $4000. In ONE MONTH. Thats why I won'd add up what I've spent. I would probably kill myself if I did :)
You both know you have a problem and you both want to stop. That's your first step. Bravo!!!
You make some great points. But don't be too hard on yourself. I really think being abandoned by someone we love and trust SHOULD hurt. We are the normal ones. The ones who are not capable of causin someone else so much pain, especially when it is a long term committed relationship. There is nothing wrong with being devastated when someone abandons you. Honestly, the abandoner is probably the one with more issues........ (being a psychopath?) lol it is more normal to have a strong emotional reaction to rejection and abandonment than it is to say be totally fine the next day in my opinion. It shows that people who are important to you are REALLY IMPORTANT to you and you don't believe in just throwing relationships that took years to build away. Honestly, I don't understand how people who are capable of just walking away from someone like they never meant anything could ever be happy... with that said, there has to be other people out there who aren't such stupid ass holes, who truly value the foundation, love, and connection that they build with people.
Sorry, random rant, but seriously I just don't understand people and how they can do these horrible things to the people that they "love."
This is my experience with the ex I spent 6 years with. It took me a long time and a lot of therapy and some good psychics to show me that it is not my fault. Maybe my fault for loving someone who I didn't think was capable of treating me the way he ended up doing. I do blame myself for that, if I could have seen it, I should have walked away long before I wasted my 20s on this person.
Sorry for the rant! It's nice to be here where so many people can at least understand what I am going through, even though I wish none of us did!
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two weeks clean...
it's easier not to call when you haven't called.
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two weeks clean...
it's easier not to call when you haven't called.
Amen, Peppie. Congrats! You've got this. You know the truth, these strangers just know some details, but nothing that's a game changer. You don't need that, none of us do!!!!
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two weeks clean...
it's easier not to call when you haven't called.
Amen, Peppie. Congrats! You've got this. You know the truth, these strangers just know some details, but nothing that's a game changer. You don't need that, none of us do!!!!
yup! and I am a month clean now. I feel better :)
AWESOME KR!
I almost capitulated today but changed my mind. Man! It sneaks up on you those cravings!
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Happy to report I closed my keen account today. Yay! Feels so good 😍
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Thank you very much! It feels soooooo good. Obviously I was inspired by a lot of people here. Shut out to my private-message-buddy, you know who you are. I started with unfavorite-ing a lot of readers I normally read with. So when I have cravings I see no one is online. But sometimes I would look them up and see if they’re online. Then I have been really good in not reading these past weeks because it’s hard to catch my favorites if you don’t have them in your favorite list. and today.. just thought, why do I still keep this account! I haven’t read! Then delete it. 😊
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Thank you very much! It feels soooooo good. Obviously I was inspired by a lot of people here. Shut out to my private-message-buddy, you know who you are. I started with unfavorite-ing a lot of readers I normally read with. So when I have cravings I see no one is online. But sometimes I would look them up and see if they’re online. Then I have been really good in not reading these past weeks because it’s hard to catch my favorites if you don’t have them in your favorite list. and today.. just thought, why do I still keep this account! I haven’t read! Then delete it. 😊
I’m proud of you. May we all be so strong.
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YAY! :D That's awesome news! It's hard but it can be done! I remind myself if I could quit smoking, shit I can quit anything! That's a great method on letting this stuff go. I too have started unfavoriting these advisors. Now I just to take the next step and close it!
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Happy to report I closed my keen account today. Yay! Feels so good 😍
CONGRATS!@!@!!! that's SO AMAZING.
i think i'm about ~month clean now.
today i went and put all my finances together and oh boy. i'm really getting out of this mess just in time. i have no idea how i even paid for all the readings since what i was spending was CLEARLY out of my budget. but i stopped just in time before thing were going to topple over.
actually, looking over all my finances has me scared crazy. it wouldn't HURT for me to get a reading now - a short one, but i know if i do one, i'll do many. there's something about it that sucks you in. like... an alcoholic... "one sip won't hurt"....
p.s. there were a couple of readers who did predict correctly, but honestly it's not reliable because you never know who is right or wrong or.... the difference between left and right anymore... this one is right THIS time, that one is right THAT time.
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Having a bit of a down moment. Want to call a psychic and know what's next....even though none of them ever turn out to be right, it's so weird that just a phone call can make you feel like you have control over things. ughhhh! I don't even have keen anymore....may be I should just go out and stop looking on social media
I know, I just WANT TO KNOW. And then I do and then I want to know more because there are certain things I didn't know before. No, these are the times not to call.
I wish we had an emergency hotline to each other to like walk each other away from a ledge. All we really need I think are intuitive friendships, they make things a bit better :)
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if you've been good lately, if you let the moment pass you'll feel really good about yourself! hang in there during the bad moments. i actually did capitulate and called one but honestly, after it didn't gratify because of the lingering feeling of "yeah right"... maybe right maybe not right.
the longer you don't call the easier i get i think... at least for me. the moment will pass if you stick it out i promise.
sometimes i want to glorify a reader and say this one was always right. then i remember no no she wasn't he wasn't. and when i remember that i remember what a waste of my money all of this is.
i want to add that many psychics on keen are dishonest... yes, even your favorites. they know their predictions don't pan out but they keep taking people's money. it's REALLY dishonest.
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So true about managing your own anxiety and staying in the moment until the feeling passes. Calling psychics is the habit we created to ease that tense, troubling and overwhelming feeling - whatever that may be for each of us.
You’re doing well peppie, your willingness to come clean is a major achievement on its own. So use this board to help you keep account of your progress. Do whatever helps you to stop calling.
I had a few failed attempts at quitting earlier and was unnecessarily hard on myself each time I capitulated. For me now, three months of not calling makes it easier to not call. And, oh my gosh, I’ve had so much more money to spend on things that make me happier. New clothes, new make up, a yoga membership, eating out more and money still left over - this stuff delivers so much more happiness than that short-term relief from a reading that will most probably be wrong anyway.
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i want to add that many psychics on keen are dishonest... yes, even your favorites. they know their predictions don't pan out but they keep taking people's money. it's REALLY dishonest.
This is so true...many of them know full well what they are saying won't happen. They lie because they know it will keep people calling and hanging on for those predictions.
Some of them really do believe their predictions though, even if you tell them factually why it can't or won't ever happen, they will insist on it, "oh but this is what I see and my guides/visions/cards/whatever are never wrong." Just plain delusional. I used to think it was terrible that people who claim to have psychic ability might be considered insane but now I totally understand why.
there is a point in time when they must know the truth but ignore it so they can continue making money. look at all the people we've talked about on here - those who after months we discovered they weren't accurate. they KNOW.
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if you've been good lately, if you let the moment pass you'll feel really good about yourself! hang in there during the bad moments. i actually did capitulate and called one but honestly, after it didn't gratify because of the lingering feeling of "yeah right"... maybe right maybe not right.
the longer you don't call the easier i get i think... at least for me. the moment will pass if you stick it out i promise.
LOOK AT YOU! not calling like a BOSS!!! I agree when you do have weak momenta and call, there is definitely that thought that the reader is bullshit. Now it happens during the.call. I still have weak moments. When I call, Im bored and am wanting to know if anyone new is coming my way. I literally want to just hang up mid sentence because they are giving me such a fairytale! I don't believe them one bit. I've spent about $20 in the last 2 months. Big difference from spending thousands!!!
So proud of you Peppie!!!!!!
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LOOK AT YOU! not calling like a BOSS!!! I agree when you do have weak momenta and call, there is definitely that thought that the reader is bullshit. Now it happens during the.call. I still have weak moments. When I call, Im bored and am wanting to know if anyone new is coming my way. I literally want to just hang up mid sentence because they are giving me such a fairytale! I don't believe them one bit. I've spent about $20 in the last 2 months. Big difference from spending thousands!!!
So proud of you Peppie!!!!!!
thanks baypark, i spent $20 last week. much better than the hundreds i used to call. the worst one, baypark, was the guy who i emailed you about - i told you what he bought with my money (shhhh). thief!
i think the thing is you never know when someone is right so it's not like knowing does anything for you at all.