The Psychic Reviews
Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Keen.com => Topic started by: Bugspray on July 07, 2012, 07:10:01 PM
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WhitelightAngel
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I have. She fed me fairytales. "Be a lady, you be the prize, pull back, let him come to you and ex will definitely come back". I was initially very happy with her, but time and time again prediction did not happen. My very good friend also had the same experience with her.
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Ok so thats the same story she fed me. Do they not understand they are dealing with peoples lives?
If you read my part 2 post in the My Story thread I talk about my reading with Debra. I read with her because of her reviews here and on KEEN. Based on her and other's advice I called my ex. Total disaster. I don't blame them, I made the ultimate decision to make the call, but suffice it to say I don't think she's the reader for me. I learned a valuable lesson to use readings as guidelines only and not let it influence me to make decisions I probably otherwise would not have. Again, not their fault, but I imagine other's are given worse advice than I was given and I think it could really cause some havoc in someone's life. :/
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i used to read with her ALL the time. she constantly pegged really vivid details, such as a remote viewer would. there were times that she would pick up something happening to the day. however, the big thing i kept calling her for never manifested the way she said. complete opposite to the point where i became really addicted to calling her whenever anything happened that didn't line up with what she would say, so she would calm me down. remote view again. validate some things. predictions just stopped. nothing was happening that she was saying, and the big prediction NEVER happened. complete opposite.
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I'm starting to think that maybe knowing too much of the future will change it. Maybe this is a big part of why most predictions don't come to pass.
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If so, then psychic readings are only going to lead to disappointments...right?
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Yes, it seems to be exactly that Rima. If you read through the probably thousands of posts on here, it seems to only lead to more heartache, as really nothing of true substance comes to pass as they tell you. Only minor insignificant things happen....read through and you'll see.
I truly commend this board, and most importantly Healer for setting this up. In the year and a half or so that this has been here, there have been countless stories of psychic addiction, with nothing really happening for anyone. Oh, as I said, a few things for some. Every couple of months it's a new batch of people, discussing their favorites. NO ONE From the beginning or middle for that matter, has come back and reporting that what their psychics have been telling them for months, years, or whatever, have come to pass. I Can try to rationalize any way I want, to say some people, once their "big prediction" happens, stop calling psychics and maybe forget to share. Highly unlikely, but in my mode of people are truly good at heart thing, maybe?
I have come across readers who are soooo good at delivering the past and present, but absolutely nothing came to pass on their "predictions", but were, in my opinion, really trying to help. And I have come across way too many readers who just feed me false hope and pray you call back. There have also been totally positive and totally negative readings too, and I find that they are somewhat, in reality, inbetween both. But in *MY* experiences, very, very, very, few things have happened that I was told would indeed happen. And OMG, if what they said could possibly have happened, i missed out on alot. But in reality it's More like close to nothing.. I also feel that if they truly could see "the future"' they would't be reading on keen or CP or any other network, they'd be pretty high in demand, and way out of my price range.
THAT BEING SAID, I also have seen here, that some can offer true guidance, with their gifts, and want to help people. It is just a shame that people have to clean out their bank accounts before they come to the realization, that no one knows the future, there are probabilities, and possibilities, that true psychics can share. AND THAT'S WHY THIS SITE IS TRULY IMPORTANT!!!! If anything, outside of trying a reader here and there, it keeps me from getting sucked back in to calling and calling, trying to find the one who will give me the prediction that will come true. honestly, I just wanted to find someone, who is gifted, uses it for goodness, for guidance. It has not happened yet. (outside of the few who I felt were really, really trying to help, but again, nothing they said happened even when they swore it would).
Not to sound too negative, but I'm just sharing my experience. Unfortunately, it sounds all to familiar also.
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I agree with both of you. The only psychic that has been 100 percent accurate about the big things in my life was a reader on Liveperson years ago. She spouted out keywords about a situation and everything that she has said have come to pass (not all good stuff too)...except the few things that are pending. Of course, she stopped reading a month after I used her. I think psychics are only 100 percent accurate when you are meant to know some things by God. Other than that, it is going to be a merry go round.
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Your are 100% correct that ONLY GOD KNOWS... They aren't on any network. I really wish that all the members here would come on and tell their experiences with psychics. You can read back to the beginning, and really there have been few things of any significance that have happened for anyone here. Again, yes for correct past and present. And then a few more for a contact date, give or take a few days, but really, nothing more than that. People's hearts are on the line. Read back, and you'll see that some were out and out lied to. Yes, I know that's a strong accusation, and I don't say it lightly. I honestly don't mean to offend any reader or client. But it's a fact. Read some of the stories, where some members were able to actually verify things that a reader said was total b/s, time and time again. THAT IS WHY THIS SITE IS IMPORTANT!!!
Again, I don't mean to offend anyone, but people need to be honest here so that other members don't get taken for a ride. I know not everyone connects with every reader, but to truly expose the readers who's intentions are less than genuine. There are way too many out there that do not use their gifts for good. AND to identify the readers who are inclined to empower and help us, and use their gifts for the right reason.
I hope this doesN't come across as bashing anyone, as that is not my intent. It really is a plea for the MORE of 300 plus members here to open up on their experiences with psychics.
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Alright, I've stayed away from the forum the past week or so, partially because I was on vacation and partially because of some drama here. It's nice to see the discussion is back on track regarding readers and predictions.
I am sorry to say that Debra was very wrong for me. I really enjoyed speaking with her and called her quite a bit. I can attest to the fact that she is an amazing remote viewer. We were speaking one day, and she interrupted me to ask me what was wrong with my leg. I had recently hurt it moving some furniture, and she felt it and even told me which leg it was. I was so impressed, and I allowed that to let me believe that her predictions would be correct. They were not.
I found the same to be true with Cookie (Spiritualist Reader). I know Cookie has been correct for many forum members, but she was not for me. I will say though, that just like Debra, Cookie is an amazing remote viewer. I no longer call remote viewers or empaths because I don't see the point. I am looking for accurate FUTURE predictions. I already know what happened yesterday and today. I'd love to know what will happen tomorrow...
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Just another thought...maybe there is some truth to the saying that you are constantly creating your future...and that is why it is hard to predict. I'm talking about things that are not necessarily destined (I believe that certain things WILL happen in your life no matter what). But...if we are calling about all of the other stuff in our lives that we do have control over...maybe..just maybe those things are too difficult to predict because we are still creating them.
Maybe we are being passive in negative way..maybe life dosen't always happen to us..we have to make it happen...so knowing what is going to happen in the future is moot.
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Oh you'll hear from him in April, oh june, oh now its fucking august.
I had a few that were correct on contact days - but not consistently. I have to laugh about the April/June/August. Have you been reading long? Cuz you'll soon get Sept/Oct and then around the holidays. I found the astrology readers were the worst with this. I read for 18 months and discovered the pattern after about a year.
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I agree. WLA was great for me with the past and present, but none of her predictions came to fruition.
If there is such a thing as a psychic soulmate or the psychic that got away, for me it would be Abrielle. I've realized that those days are done. She predicted stuff to the day time and time again. Now I realize how lucky I was to have a reader that was super accurate or I would have been devastated many times.
Right now I stick to a couple for current and near future. I think it's very hard to find anyone who can accurately predict a big picture outcome. They'll move timelines around on you forever and come up with some song and dance as to why things didn't happen.
The best advice I can give for those who choose to get readings is to find someone that works for you. ONE or TWO MAXIMUM and stick with them. Do not call them very often either. It seems like the more frequently you call them, the more they lose accuracy.
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Read with her a few times. Fairy tales and nothing she ever told me came to fruition. Bugger...
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I am going to say something here that many of you may not like. I come on here only occassionally and I check in to what is happening because I am not obsessed with psychics or readings....I once in awhile check in with two of my favorites and then I let go and LIVE MY LIFE! I am going to tell you straight up here ....you can not take a prediction and obsess and call mutiple psychics and expect what you are desiring or getting predicted to happen. WE are all here to learn lessons....and particularly with soulmates..many of us are here to learn to love ourselves and to trust and to live our lives and experience certain things BEFORE WE CAN BE WITH OUR SOULMATE! IF you are just dwelling...dwelling...and it is just the most dominate thought in your head and you are blaming psychics for predictions and comparing notes all the time....THAT IS THE REASON THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING FOR YOU..I CAN ALMOST 100% GUARANTEE YOU THAT! I am not just spurting this to you to be argumentatve but it is upsetting to read some of the comments here....and it truly is unfair to say such negative things about readers that do not deserve it. As far as Whitelightangel...let me tell you...I have read with the best(aka Sylvia Brown and John Edwards)....I have studied metaphysics with great teachers...I have done much I will not even put here as it may be viewed as bragging...BUT Debra whitelightangel...is ONE OF THE BEST in her field...she has been much more accurate for me then any of the famous psychics...and she always comes from integrity...she has guided me for many years and yes sometimes timelines are not always right...BUT THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE people....no psychic is GOD and even he does not know when your ex will contact! I have always gotten my readings from her...then I let go and kept busy and did things for me...and her readings always came to fruition. She tells you those things for a reason...she is just not trying to lead you on. Be easy on these psychics....look at yourself...are you living life in the moment really? Or are you dwelling on what a psychic is saying? If you want to grow and live your best life...Whitelightangel will get you there guaranteed...if you are looking for just a "when will he call?" NO psychic of any caliber will be able to help you...Thank you for listening. Hope I helped.
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Thank you Bugspray. But I can tell you one thing ,it is true many psychics lead their clients on, but whiteligthangel is one of them that does not do that. I have many friends that I referred to her over the years and unfortunately in a few instances she had to tell them bad news that their ex's were NOT coming back. She tells it as she sees probabilities. NOTHING is written in stone. Especially again when it comes to soulmates, I truly believe there is no exact timing on that. There is so much anger on here and it is understandable,but nobody should be calling psychic after psychic because number one,do you know what message that puts out to the universe? I DON'T TRUST! And if that person's lesson is to trust and let go and they don't, things will never come together till they do! OH..I am sorry I could go on and on....but anyway, Debra whitelightangel may have said similiar advice to a few of you here because it was what each of you needed. I can only speak from what I know of her and all my friends(lets see...9 of them!)that love her and call only her. Have a good evening all! Blessings!
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Hi Pinklipstick,
Would you share your experience with other Keen readers, or CP ? I am interested in who you have read with other than whitelightangel, and what your experience has been.
Thanks!
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@pinklipstick
If you look through the literally zillions of posts on here - you will find that there are very few people looking for a "when will he call" answer. I think most of us on here are searching for a reader that can see our individual situations (and people involved) and give a clear, precise prediction. Granted free will plays a huge part in this, but a skilled reader can at least see the pathways possible and help guide their client to the best of their ability.
As I have been writing recently, I have come to my own accessment of what I am looking for in a reader. it has taken me quite sometime to see through the haze of "inadequate" psychics.
Truly, there are so many out there and there's no way they are all as talented as they claim. I personally think being a real psychic is a very rare gift.
I appreciate this site so much because it gives each of us an opportunity to express our own experiences (positive and negative) and share what we have learned. And as Bugs posted (and many, many more on here), readers are a very individual thing. Some work for others, but not for everyone.
I would never assume, that because people are receiving psychic readings, that they are not living their lives to the best of their abilities, or that they have put their lives on hold because of a reading. We all ended up at this site for many, many different reasons.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day :) :) :)
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@kicking the habit . Well, I have not called alot of keen readers as personally I am not so crazy about the site due to the fact that they can have anyone on there doing readings. I call whitelightangel(debra) from her personal website and that is how I found her. She just happens to be on keen as well. But I have called Celeste and she was "ok" meaning she seems alittle distracted and I feel anyone that charges that much makes me think of what are their intentions. Acouple things came true and some things didn't...which is normal...again no psychic is God. I have called Steven Craig.....Caryfaith....mslisam....queenofcups18 and all of them I feel have a gift but as I said before 50/50 with predictions and I did not learn from them. I truly feel a psychic reading without some kind of spiritual direction is not going to help manifest desires. I am not one to list psychics that are "wrong" I would list a "psychic" that i feel is unethical and truly out to just take my money. Lucky for me, I really have not had that happen altho I know of MANY out there and many on those websites. There is one other psychic that has a personal website that I like and she is my #2 after Debra is Betsy Morgan. Have a blessed day!
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pink lipstick,
Thanks for responding.
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I'm barging in on this just to say I love some of the new user names - bugspray, pinklipstick, love it ladies
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Ok. I have to pipe in here.
"...not obsessed with psychics or readings....I once in awhile check in with two of my favorites and then I let go and LIVE MY LIFE! I am going to tell you straight up here ....you can not take a prediction and obsess and call mutiple psychics and expect what you are desiring or getting predicted to happen. WE are all here to learn lessons....and particularly with soulmates..many of us are here to learn to love ourselves and to trust and to live our lives and experience certain things BEFORE WE CAN BE WITH OUR SOULMATE! IF you are just dwelling...dwelling...and it is just the most dominate thought in your head and you are blaming psychics for predictions and comparing notes all the time....THAT IS THE REASON THINGS ARE NOT HAPPENING FOR YOU..I CAN ALMOST 100% GUARANTEE YOU THAT!"
Some of us had a negative experience with this particular psychic and the implication that we are obsessing, dwelling, blaming, or not loving ourselves is unjustified. I very clearly stated that I DID NOT blame anyone for the ultimate decision I made to contact my ex. I simply stated it was a bad reading and I had no desire to use her services again. Period. No obsessing. No dwelling. No blame. No lack of love for myself. This is a review forum, so like it or not, we posted our reviews. BTW, I did do and will continue to live my life with or without readings and I CAN DEFINITELY 100% GUARANTEE YOU THAT.
But I can tell you one thing ,it is true many psychics lead their clients on, but whiteligthangel is one of them that does not do that. I have many friends that I referred to her over the years and unfortunately in a few instances she had to tell them bad news that their ex's were NOT coming back. She tells it as she sees probabilities. NOTHING is written in stone. Especially again when it comes to soulmates, I truly believe there is no exact timing on that. There is so much anger on here and it is understandable,but nobody should be calling psychic after psychic because number one,do you know what message that puts out to the universe? I DON'T TRUST! And if that person's lesson is to trust and let go and they don't, things will never come together till they do! OH..I am sorry I could go on and on....but anyway, Debra whitelightangel may have said similiar advice to a few of you here because it was what each of you needed. I can only speak from what I know of her and all my friends(lets see...9 of them!)that love her and call only her. Have a good evening all! Blessings!
The anger you may be referring to from some is probably the anger of being judged from others while posting a review about one's personal experience. I have been on a spiritual path for a long time and me and the universe are just fine. The universe knows I'm not perfect and I occasionally falter and question my faith in things...therefore I ask advice from sometimes a few and sometimes many, including my own ancestors and guides. The universe is equally forgiving and allows me my flaws. Funny thing, just like Debra, I'm not God either...just a mortal human who isn't always right. Her and I have a lot in common it seems. I'm very happy to read that you and 9 of your friends have had positive and genuine experiences with her. I truly mean that. But, everyone and I mean EVERYONE connects differently (pretty sure that's a universal quality as well) so there is no need to lecture or advise because 5 of us did not connect. There is no right or wrong when it comes to this. I have yet to read any thread on this forum that has any psychic that has connected or worked for every person here. It just is what it is and if you don't connect, so be it, and if you do then there ya have it. Either way, I will continue to post my experiences whether positive or negative.
I imagine, Pink, you are coming from a sincere place but again this is a review forum and not all of us are going to have the same experiences. Many blessings to you, too, and I now know who to go to when I'm looking for advice. :)
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Plus 1 for decibal. diva
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Decibal.Diva that was totally awesome. What you said was perfect. just perfect. Thank you so much for that!
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I think it is unfair to state that a reading is "negative" because a prediction did not happen in a time period that was given or a "short term projection did not work as expected" And it is true, not everyone connects, whether it is with a psychic or any other person . My opinion is one should give a reading a chance outside of timelines before dissing any reader.And if a reader did very well with present circumstances then you should trust they have ability.As far as when things happen (aka timing) is something that is more predictive then set in stone. I have been told that by a great spiritual teacher. Spirit will never give a date, unless it is an event in your life that was predestined to happen on a certain date, not many of those as there is 'free will' we have been given. I know many of you think that is a psychic readers excuse, but for a true reader it is not. Don't you change your mind from minute to minute, feel different from minute to minute, feel happy,feel sad ,feel stubborn....this is all free will emotions that no one has control over and can affect a reading from day to day. Now as far as Leading someone on...I am right with you ladies. That should never happen. Please try to be fair in who you are so quick to disregard. I am not just speaking about Debra here, altho I have such faith in her,and trust she has integrity,but any other psychic that may be truly affected unfairly. We are all souls having a human experience. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is always right, from the weatherman , to your doctor, your bookkeeper, even your own mom. If a psychic is truly out to rip you off, take your money with ridiculous prices, or you just feel they are grasping at straws...then let everyone know. I would like to know myself! I have respect for each of you on here and am not here to point fingers at anyone. Just putting some food for thought out there based on my knowledge of the psychic/metaphysical world. Blessings all.
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@pinklipstick - I can appreciate that you've had a good experience with Debra. I have not personally read with her yet, so I cannot comment on her accuracy or style of reading, but what I can say is, with all due respect, everyone's experience is different. I don't think saying "I didn't connect" or "the reading didn't pan out" qualifies as dissing someone so much as being honest about what did or did not occur. I think everyone here can take it as read that sometimes these things do wind up happening outside of time lines - we've seen some forum members have tremendous success months and years after they gave up hope on the readings they were given, and it turned out the psychics were right all along. However, that being said, the majority of the time that doesn't happen.
I think everyone here has been honest and objective about their experiences. I'm glad that she has worked for you, and I'm glad you were here to share that experience with everyone so that we can compare and contrast different experiences; however, I also think it's a little unfair that you're quick to dismiss someone else's review because it doesn't match your experience.
This is a forum for reviews, honest ones. I'm sure if it turns out Debra was right in the long run, then those who said her readings weren't working out will probably come back and correct themselves - we've seen that happen before, too. But I don't like the idea that people should feel like they can't be honest about their disappointments simply because it's "negative" for the psychic in question - that's not fair to anyone, either. It's not the first time this has been brought up in the forum and I'm sure it won't be the last, but I don't think anyone should be uncomfortable posting any reviews, positive or negative.
Anyway. That's all I've really got to say on this matter.
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I read with WLA on January 29, 2012. I was told no contact for 3 weeks and if he doesn't contact me to contact him. I did. It sucked. Ce la vie. I think it's perfectly fair to state this was a negative reading. I am not "dissing" her for it and I think I've given her reading plenty of time to manifest outside of the time line given. We didn't connect and I was given bad advice. When he does contact me and IF it involves the number 3 I will come here and post another review, until then I will disregard any reader I feel isn't right for me, but again thank you for your insights. For me personally, I will continue to utilize this forum for what it is intended for and that is to post my reviews and experiences.
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@somnus Oh please understand I am trying to give a perspective that maybe isn't being understood as I truly understand can happen when emotions are running high. Again,all respect to you and all others here and I wish all the best for all.
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@Somnus - great post and I couldn't agree more.
@pinklipstick - we are all intelligent people and I think most of us are aware that there are many possibilities within anyone's future. I appreciate you stating your opinion on this matter but your first posts were somewhat demeaning and not giving any of us credit for being in control of our lives. I'm not here to be given a lesson on how to approach my life with or without readings. Maybe some are and I hope you're opinion is helpful to them. Thank you for sharing your experience with WLA and like others including myself have stated everyone connects differently.
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I hv a question after reading today's posts.
about free will, and feelings changing every min, decisions changing every min,
hence outcomes changing too, if a reader can't see beyond this, then what role is a
psychic? isn't it back to square one? they don't know any more than the caller. I start to chuckle suddenly.
then very short term prediction would be more accurate.
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Lightme, I just think that is a cop out. Readers should be able to look above the short term feelings and see what the person will stand ultimately in the relationship. If they can't do that, why are you reading for people? I would respect a reader that says upfront they can only do short-term reads and predictions.
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I am not putting down readers. take my own example, ladyashley picked up on my SM's intention, an important one which he later confirmed. that wow me and I really think she has gift. then she made some predictions. these predictions may be correct at the time she made them, but few months later my SM may change his mind again and the predictions dont happen.
now the reader is still gifted, but what was the point of calling anymore now that I had understood that future could still change.
now it only makes sense to call for empath reason. no wonder gifted readers could get past and present correct, but not future.
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My opinion is one should give a reading a chance outside of timelines before dissing any reader.
Define "outside timelines". A month? A year? 2 years?
@lightme - ditto. I've wondered that myself. A reader on here recently said something very similar and I thought the same as you, why bother calling if they admit they can't tell? I lived the past and I am in the present.
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I do not believe that any psychic is 100% correct. If they are 80% you have a darn good psychic.
And I think it's totally true some psychics are amazing for some people and some are lousy for others.
As for the free will element, this is how it was explained to me. Some things that we agreed to before we were born are going to happen regardless of what we do. Birth, deaths, and other major events are predestined. So, if I call my psychic and ask when X is going to return to me, she may say in the month of October. Maybe his return is predestined , because his return is an important event that will have short or far reaching consequences for not only me but perhaps my loved ones , or even society! Maybe his return starts a chain of events that ultimately creates a cure for cancer. Maybe that cure is quick or maybe lifetimes away. On the other hand, what if is not predestined? And because I feel it is, simply because a psychic told me it was, I start posting private pictures of him on facebook? I mean after all, it doesn't matter how I behave because he is supposed to return to me in October. I think likely that he will not return because he will find out that I betrayed him. That betrayal was my choice and changed the probable outcome of events.
If it is predestined, he will return regardless of that facebook betrayal , but if is not he can just walk away. His walking away because of my actions is how free will effected the outcome
Anyway, thats how it was explained to me.
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I have read with whitelightangel and I wasn't too happy with the reading either. Basically this is because she told me there could be a future with a particular person, unless I decided to move on, but even then there may be a future. I could have told myself this. I feel she uses a lot of hedging, like she is very vague so she doesn't have to really tell you anything. This truly bothered me. Also, she continued to claim this person would be back in my life, even though I told her there is not a chance because I just feel he is a very negative influence in my life and I don't want someone like that around, yet she keeps insisting we'll be back in each other's lives. This really annoys me and tells me she is making stuff up.
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Debra wasnt accurate for me either.I only got through to her once.Since then she has ignored my callbacks.Even though she is on "alert"she dosent answer my call.One minute later she takes the next call.This has happened too many times to be a coinsidence.
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I've read with Debra many times about 3 different guys over the years. While I can say she didn't spin elaborate fairy tales, I will say she was vaguely positive about these becoming serious relationships. They didn't. I still have to interact with them because we either work for the same company or live close, and I guess the fat lady hasn't sung until I'm dead or happily married elsewhere, but she just wasn't accurate on relationships for me. But one really cool thing she did more than once was to recommend books to me that were about things I needed to work on at the time of my calls. And she'd sometimes do it in the strangest ways. One time she just described the colors and appearance of the cover of the book, didn't really know the title, and I went to the store and immediately found what she was talking about. Others she'd say the name and it might be one I'd just purchased. These were usually books about manifesting or other spiritual type books that I would learn so much from!
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I've read with Debra many times about 3 different guys over the years. While I can say she didn't spin elaborate fairy tales, I will say she was vaguely positive about these becoming serious relationships. They didn't. I still have to interact with them because we either work for the same company or live close, and I guess the fat lady hasn't sung until I'm dead or happily married elsewhere, but she just wasn't accurate on relationships for me. But one really cool thing she did more than once was to recommend books to me that were about things I needed to work on at the time of my calls. And she'd sometimes do it in the strangest ways. One time she just described the colors and appearance of the cover of the book, didn't really know the title, and I went to the store and immediately found what she was talking about. Others she'd say the name and it might be one I'd just purchased. These were usually books about manifesting or other spiritual type books that I would learn so much from!
Can you share the names of the books?
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OK, I have a bazillion books and it's been a few years since she last did this, but I"m pretty sure the one where she described the cover was Divine Intuition - Your Guide to Creating a Life You Love,, by Lynn A. Robinson. Another was a Wayne Dyer,,, I think it was You'll See it When You Believe It. Excuse Me, Your Life is Waiting by Lynn Grabhorn and one of Esther and Jerry Hicks,,, probably Ask and It Is Given or The Amazing Power of Deliberate Intent. Think she directed me to all those,, but I had just bought the Esther and Jerry Hicks one the day before she recommended it. She'd usually do this out of the blue too , at the end of our reading.
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But one really cool thing she did more than once was to recommend books to me that were about things I needed to work on at the time of my calls
A lot of readers do this don't they? If I get one more title from a book that I should read in order to obtain the next level, I might go crosseyed. The books are almost always recommendations from very wellknown self-help gurus. And in all honesty, a reader can't go wrong advising you about self help. The most recent has been Dyer's, The Power of Intention. I don't want to manifest life through books and many of these books are advice you have to follow, belief systems you have to change and ideologies you have to master in order for them to work. (yawn)
Back in August SourcePower gave me the name of some feng shui book to help with manifestations...need I say more?
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I really get upset when I read some of these posts because I truly wish there was more understanding of some of these readers you choose to bash. First off...I am going to say one thing ,the keen feedback system is very unfair to these readers. I have about 6-7 readers on keen that I am friendly with and read for me. And all of them are truthful viable honets talented readers,whitelightangel one of them. They all fear and can detect if someone is going to be very unfair or may be someone who will bash their feedback over a prediction that didn't happen in the right timing,or a prediction that is not given a fair chance, OR heaven forbid they might not get it just right or tell someone something they are not ready to hear. These readers do this for a living and their feedback is a livelihood for them as keen does not enable them to defend themselves if they are bashed. So you guys decide to critique them here. Noone is perfect,the weatherman is not always right!! and how many times have anyone gone to a doctor and the doctor hedges with saying maybe exactly what he thinks in fear of being wrong and being sued or hurting someone. A psychic is a human being and noone is always right and if you have a reader that is honestly trying to help, be thankful. Stop the negativity about venting over every little thing. If they are referring you to a book, most likely you are directed to this as it will help you in your growth and achieving your desires. Why bash that now??? If a reader wants to pass you by,that is their perogative. Did you know you can be googled? If you have a record of 1 starring multiple readers, a reader is not going to take your call. Can you blame them? Keen is a difficult platform and I am going to tell you why. There are more "so called readers" there that claim to be psychic . They make it hard on the ones who truly are, and if the real psychic tells them something totally different then what all the "others" tell them,they are at risk of being bashed!You are better seeking out these psychics off of keen where they have no fear of being bashed. Many of them have private websites. Seek them out there. Most "real" psychics have a private site. If not, I would question their guise as a psychic. In defense of Debra(whitelightangel) as this post states, she is beyond honest and truly comes from a higher place. She always tries to help and has guided me thru many a challenge. Sometimes she was wrong about something(SO WHAT!)...NO ONE is always right, but most of the time she was. I always hang up with renewed faith and ability to create the future I desire. If you guys are all about just predictions, then you are best going to a"for entertainment purposes only" kind of psychic. The main thing here, give these psychics a break and give what they say to you time. OR just don't call a psychic anymore. God Bless all.
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You're correct, pink lipstick, not everyone is always right, but sometimes they are dead wrong or do not connect. When, as a caller, do you quit giving readers a free pass and say, " You know what? Psychic XYZ had been mostly wrong."
Everyone's critique here has been fair lately.
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First of all, I personally don't bash readers intentionally, especially on Keen. But I'm certainly glad this outlet was made available so that I can do it here, freely and without condemnation, AND the ability to warn others. It's the freedom on this site that makes it viable. The few times I've given a psychic a one was only if they were beyond horrible. And we all know about google at this point, this is old news.
I know without a doubt that VickiJoy sucked big time (although many love her), but I still gave her five stars, so please...as this is not an advice forum, don't tell us how to rate psychics. I gave Tarot Magician one star because every question was an I-don’t-know and she never stated not once, she wasn’t connecting…just hung on the call for a paycheck. And I have NEVER asked for a refund from any site. EVER!!
We all know about their precious livelihoods and if they were better at it, they would learn to grow from the criticism as opposed to sticking their fraudulent heads in the sand. If Keen or any other site for that matter were so great, they would have higher standards for the so called psychics they choose to hire. No one is more supportive of readers than I (I started the special sections on this forum), because I believe in what they do and the knowledge that they bestow upon us. So, if I’m willing to pay then they better well be willing to provide a (valuable) and beneficial service. And if they sucked majorly and particularly when they have their own site...I specifically send them an email expressing my displeasure at how jacked up their reading was.
If they are referring you to a book, most likely you are directed to this as it will help you in your growth and achieving your desires.
How would you know, are you psychic? Sounds like to me it's another way for psychics to validate how spiritual they are to the world by quoting from a self help book. And a reader's prerogative to name or quote from a book doesn't place them on any higher plane of consciousness, than quoting from the bible would make me a religious zealot.
Secondly, so glad Whitelightangel worked for you, so why not just say that instead of telling us what we should/should not post? There is so much hypocrisy on this forum, it's unbelievable. That's where the negativity comes from pinklipstick, just review your post and you'll find it.
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Pink, where is your understanding of mystical Sandra? You write this long post in defense of readers but had this to say about Sandra (today!)
"No its because she is afraid of being bashed by someone she does not know!!!!!
be wary, she plays the "i am your momma" thing to lure you in! I never read with her, but someone I know has, she was not able to read her and didn't get her present situation right at all."
I would like to know the answer to this question as well, pinklipstick.
We get it. You like whitelightangel or you are her yourself. Let other people be adults and write what they want to write about her.
Personally, it is annoying when people develop love relationships with their readers. Even I don't dare defend my trusted advisers when other people have bad experiences with them.
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I am not bashing Sandra at all. I never read with her. I am just speaking about 1 friend that did and what I have read elsewhere. But in defense of Sandra, she most likely is not taking new callers as she is fearful of being bashed by someone new. I hear that alot. I do appreciate whitelightangel, but by no means have a love affair!She is one of a few I do appreciate, as I have stated. LOL Anyway, wow , I have no more to say here for now! This forum is pretty intense.Best to all! Really:)
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We get it. You like whitelightangel or you are her yourself. Let other people be adults and write what they want to write about her.
Most people won't come out and say this here, but after reading your long defensive post about her, this is what many people will conclude.
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No intensity intended. It is just...geez...how many times do people have to defend the psychics they like and chastise people that have bad experiences with them? It just gets old.
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Well I received the email that stated she wasn't taking new callers, but I did get a reading :)
She picked up on the situation with ease, and reported to me that my ex still loved me and there was attraction and chemistry between us, and that he has no emotional attachment to the other woman. She went on to say that the other woman is speaking negatively about me (although we have never met) and was manipulative and that she had her hooks in my ex and was not willing to give up. From that she concluded from that that we would not reconcile. I was stunned and disappointed to hear that. And I have to say that although I bear in mind that I have received 2 negative readings and more than 250 positive ones, I still realize that it could go either way, I was inclined to chalk that one up to my inclcination for short readings. I rarely spend more than about 8 minutes. Perhaps we ran out of time for her to tell me what factors into her prediction that we won't be together again. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to think that the information she shared with me would be the reason. While my ex has hurt me recently, I give him more credit as a human being to be naive enough to fall for any tactic like that. Firstly, I don't believe that my ex would tolerate that sort of behaviour from any woman, or that he would become brainwashed by someone he has no love for, and certainly after being with me for so many years and never experiencing anything negative at all he wouldn't be swayed by someone that doesn't know me at all. Sandra's reading is 1 of the 2 readings that have given me a negative outcome. At the time of the reading, it didn't make sense to me that in spite of all of the feelings that we had, he would remain with someone that is like that. But now, I guess I have reason to be concerned, because she seems to get things right! :'(I am not bashing Sandra at all. I never read with her. I am just speaking about 1 friend that did and what I have read elsewhere. But in defense of Sandra, she most likely is not taking new callers as she is fearful of being bashed by someone new. I hear that alot. I do appreciate whitelightangel, but by no means have a love affair!She is one of a few I do appreciate, as I have stated. LOL Anyway, wow , I have no more to say here for now! This forum is pretty intense.Best to all! Really:)
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Pinklipstick, this is a forum for people to review psychic. Many people have spent a LOT of money reading with bs-ers. We have a right to share our experiences so that others can make an informed decision. I read with debra a lot and I am sorry, but she was inaccurate and the fact she kept pushing a point that is never going to happen because I don't want it to (i.e. that this man will come back into my life - I plan on having no interaction with nor ever giving him any kind of platform on which he would be able to engage with me. He is a negative person, he is not a good person, he did something really shitty and I don't want someone like that around me) showed me that she is making up a tale and cannot even back down and say, ok you're right. She told me the only way someone else would come into the picture is if I moved on from this guy, but even then she saw him coming back. Utter nonsense.
FYI I have never rated her. I hardly leave feedback for readers. The only person I've left feedback for a few times is Queen of Cups and that's because some things she told me, I didn't believe and they astounded me when they happened.
I want to read about some of these people because there are so many frauds out there, so it's helpful to know what to expect and make an educated decision on what I want to do. Just because you love Debra, does not mean someone that doesn't like her reading style is bashing her. I am not bashing her. She is a nice lady. I just don't happen to think she is psychic. At least not for me.
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I'm very confused here, smee. Is this review about Debra or Sandra?
Well I received the email that stated she wasn't taking new callers, but I did get a reading :)
She picked up on the situation with ease, and reported to me that my ex still loved me and there was attraction and chemistry between us, and that he has no emotional attachment to the other woman. She went on to say that the other woman is speaking negatively about me (although we have never met) and was manipulative and that she had her hooks in my ex and was not willing to give up. From that she concluded from that that we would not reconcile. I was stunned and disappointed to hear that. And I have to say that although I bear in mind that I have received 2 negative readings and more than 250 positive ones, I still realize that it could go either way, I was inclined to chalk that one up to my inclcination for short readings. I rarely spend more than about 8 minutes. Perhaps we ran out of time for her to tell me what factors into her prediction that we won't be together again. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to think that the information she shared with me would be the reason. While my ex has hurt me recently, I give him more credit as a human being to be naive enough to fall for any tactic like that. Firstly, I don't believe that my ex would tolerate that sort of behaviour from any woman, or that he would become brainwashed by someone he has no love for, and certainly after being with me for so many years and never experiencing anything negative at all he wouldn't be swayed by someone that doesn't know me at all. Sandra's reading is 1 of the 2 readings that have given me a negative outcome. At the time of the reading, it didn't make sense to me that in spite of all of the feelings that we had, he would remain with someone that is like that. But now, I guess I have reason to be concerned, because she seems to get things right! :'(I am not bashing Sandra at all. I never read with her. I am just speaking about 1 friend that did and what I have read elsewhere. But in defense of Sandra, she most likely is not taking new callers as she is fearful of being bashed by someone new. I hear that alot. I do appreciate whitelightangel, but by no means have a love affair!She is one of a few I do appreciate, as I have stated. LOL Anyway, wow , I have no more to say here for now! This forum is pretty intense.Best to all! Really:)
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pinklipstick aka whitelightangel aka pinklipstick or perhaps you are just another reader on Keen. Either way, we've done this dance before with you and YES your love affair with Debra. (read back a few pages ladies). For all your long-winded and judgemental posts and rebuttals you still clearly miss the point of this forum. It's a REVIEW FORUM, get it? Not a cut everyone some slack forum, realize everyone is human and isn't 100% right forum, not a tell everyone how to deal with their readings forum, it's a REVIEW FORUM. PERIOD. Most of us here have been getting readings long enough to know that psychics are human (I hope so anyway) but I do thank you for making that clear to newer members. Humans are flawed and not perfect, yada yada yada. But, when I'm paying a human by the minute and not one thing they've ever advised was even close to correct well I am going to be honest and review that here. Because I can. Because its a review forum. Sorry if I seem harsh, truly, but pinklipstick my dear I'm convinced that you are a reader yourself if not the one this thread represents and I find your posts offensive. Feel free to bash away at me, I don't mind.
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Aw, thanks, missed you, too!!
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I'm very confused here, smee. Is this review about Debra or Sandra?
Well I received the email that stated she wasn't taking new callers, but I did get a reading :)
She picked up on the situation with ease, and reported to me that my ex still loved me and there was attraction and chemistry between us, and that he has no emotional attachment to the other woman. She went on to say that the other woman is speaking negatively about me (although we have never met) and was manipulative and that she had her hooks in my ex and was not willing to give up. From that she concluded from that that we would not reconcile. I was stunned and disappointed to hear that. And I have to say that although I bear in mind that I have received 2 negative readings and more than 250 positive ones, I still realize that it could go either way, I was inclined to chalk that one up to my inclcination for short readings. I rarely spend more than about 8 minutes. Perhaps we ran out of time for her to tell me what factors into her prediction that we won't be together again. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to think that the information she shared with me would be the reason. While my ex has hurt me recently, I give him more credit as a human being to be naive enough to fall for any tactic like that. Firstly, I don't believe that my ex would tolerate that sort of behaviour from any woman, or that he would become brainwashed by someone he has no love for, and certainly after being with me for so many years and never experiencing anything negative at all he wouldn't be swayed by someone that doesn't know me at all. Sandra's reading is 1 of the 2 readings that have given me a negative outcome. At the time of the reading, it didn't make sense to me that in spite of all of the feelings that we had, he would remain with someone that is like that. But now, I guess I have reason to be concerned, because she seems to get things right! :'(I am not bashing Sandra at all. I never read with her. I am just speaking about 1 friend that did and what I have read elsewhere. But in defense of Sandra, she most likely is not taking new callers as she is fearful of being bashed by someone new. I hear that alot. I do appreciate whitelightangel, but by no means have a love affair!She is one of a few I do appreciate, as I have stated. LOL Anyway, wow , I have no more to say here for now! This forum is pretty intense.Best to all! Really:)
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pinklipstick aka whitelightangel aka pinklipstick or perhaps you are just another reader on Keen. Either way, we've done this dance before with you and YES your love affair with Debra. (read back a few pages ladies). For all your long-winded and judgemental posts and rebuttals you still clearly miss the point of this forum. It's a REVIEW FORUM, get it? Not a cut everyone some slack forum, realize everyone is human and isn't 100% right forum, not a tell everyone how to deal with their readings forum, it's a REVIEW FORUM. PERIOD. Most of us here have been getting readings long enough to know that psychics are human (I hope so anyway) but I do thank you for making that clear to newer members. Humans are flawed and not perfect, yada yada yada. But, when I'm paying a human by the minute and not one thing they've ever advised was even close to correct well I am going to be honest and review that here. Because I can. Because its a review forum. Sorry if I seem harsh, truly, but pinklipstick my dear I'm convinced that you are a reader yourself if not the one this thread represents and I find your posts offensive. Feel free to bash away at me, I don't mind.
Love it!!
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Miss Decibel.diva(how appropriate) I don't appreciate you trying to tell me who I am, as let me tell you something ,none of the readers I deal with would ever waste their time on this board,they don't need to. They wouldn't put their energy into such a negative atmosphere and let me tell you,not all of you are, but many of you just get kicks out of this, crazy stuff I must say. No my name is Lola not Debra or any other reader for that fact. I am done even trying to communicate here. Its a waste of time indeed. So don't bother to rebuttal Miss Diva. I am sure you can put your precious energy somewhere else.How bitter are you.Wow!
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hmm that was interesting.
honestly, im sure that since whitelightangel has her own thread, more people would consider a reading with her than not. so i doubt negative reviews totally convince people to not read with her. even i may decide to try her to see...since I know that a psychic that works for one dosent work for another. so, there really isnt a need to defend a psychic on this board.
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Then why do so many defend psychics the way they do, with tooth and nail and brimstone. What’s up with the I-am-not-coming-back-because-you-insulted-my-psychic shtick? It's the same with the Syd fan. My god I have moderate favorites too but I wouldn't think the person who wasn't successful with my choice means they are wrong, any more than I am. It just really doesn't make any logical sense at all.
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Then why do so many defend psychics the way they do, with tooth and nail and brimstone. What’s up with the I-am-not-coming-back-because-you-insulted-my-psychic shtick? It's the same with the Syd fan. My god I have moderate favorites too but I wouldn't think the person who wasn't successful with my choice means they are wrong, any more than I am. It just really doesn't make any logical sense at all.
It is an interesting question. I remember once recommending my GP to my friend Gail. Gail was really disappointed with her, because she felt she was really rough and had a horrible bed side manner. I felt embarrassed that Gail was dismissive of my choice of doctor. I defended her, because I felt she was amazing with diagnosis's . It took me a while to admit that Gail was right. I dreaded checkups because she was so rough. Maybe we take offense because who we let in and trust is so personal and important that it's insulting to have someone tell us our belief is wrong ?
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Hi All, I'm new here, been lurking a while, but I wanted to give my review/opinion/experience with Debra.
I've been calling her on and off for about 5 years. I call Debra and a couple others just on occasion, usually when I need to check my own intuition and/or I'm too close to the situation to see it clearly. When I started calling Debra, it was over a boy. R and I had one of those instant connections. Literally locked eyes and fell head over heels for one another. We loved intensely for about 9 months then he just ended things without so much as an explanation. Cue devastation.
I called several readers before finding Debra. I don't even really remember who else I called. The first time I talked to Debra, she knew all about my situation and started giving me little details, things like seeing writing all around me (I write professionally), seeing me connected to water (I have a certain affinity for being on/in/near the water), etc, etc, things she wouldn't be able to know any other way. She also told me R would be back.
Time passed and R didn't come back. I called from time to time to check in and she went from saying yes to saying 'He thinks about you constantly but is too chicken to call' to 'something happened that he wants to tell you about but he won't pick up the phone' to finally 'he still thinks about you but he's stagnant. He's just not moving.' By that time, I had let go and moved on, thanks in part to her guidance on letting go, law of attraction, etc.
I later learned that she was right - R did think of me constantly but was too afraid to pick up the phone. That thing that changed? He got a new job, something I'd been encouraging him to do. In the end, it turned out she was right - he came back in the sense that I had a choice to rekindle or move on. I'd moved on to another life in a bigger, better place by then. I'm happy. My life would have been 180 degrees different if I'd stayed.
Other things Debra has been right on for me - She told me my dad would help me pay for college even when I was 100% sure he wouldn't. He did and then some. She told me I'd work out a lot of the logistical problems that crept up once i accepted my dream internship and how. She was right on all accounts. She even told me when I was having trouble financing a car that not only would i finance a 'silverish colored car', a dark complected man with a 'gray streak' would help me. I ended up with a light gold-colored car that looks silverish in certain light, sold to me by an Italian American man with a gray streak through his hair.
Debra isn't 100% though. I've been working to change jobs and have been up for several, two in particular that I went really far in the interview process. Debra told me I'd get them both. I ended up not getting job A and sort of got job B but a hiring freeze put the brakes on it at least for now. She wasn't right but she wasn't totally wrong either. I learned later that Job A wasn't an unanimous decision. They kept delaying making a final decision and I learned that was because they were torn down the middle between me and another candidate. The other job, I got. I just didn't 'get.'
So that's my review of Debra. She's been about 90% or so for me. She's not perfect and she's not going to work for everyone.
If you read this ramble, congrats! I apologize for writing so much - did I mention I write for a living. :)
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I've been calling her on and off for about 5 years. I call Debra and a couple others just on occasion, usually when I need to check my own intuition and/or I'm too close to the situation to see it clearly. When I started calling Debra, it was over a boy. R and I had one of those instant connections. Literally locked eyes and fell head over heels for one another. We loved intensely for about 9 months then he just ended things without so much as an explanation. Cue devastation.
Wow, such a lovely story (although a flawed ending). I like it though. That eyes across the room thing doesn't happen often.
Maybe she isn’t that great with jobs, perhaps? I read with her back in July and she had this to say: Work will come around fast, end of August, beginning of September (about a month). There might be two offers but one stands out more, male energy as boss. It’s now October and absolutely nothing plus, the job I have a second interview with (between myself and another candidate) a woman runs the show. I know this because HR told me she was one of four females who started the program. I realize that the boss could have masculine energy (I have tons of it), but how or why a psychic would miss the fact that it is a man or woman, regardless of whether they have feminine or masculine energy, kind of just doesn’t fly.
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sarahk, thanks for the review. Did your ex get a job in a new state and was afraid to ask you to move with him? I'm not understanding what happened.
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sarahk, thanks for the review. Did your ex get a job in a new state and was afraid to ask you to move with him? I'm not understanding what happened.
Hi Loops,
I'm actually the one who moved on to another state! I made a decision - still remember the day, moment, everything - to focus on me. A little voice told me I needed to be in a certain city, a city that I have no ties to previously. I focused on getting there and on me and prayed a lot along the way and trusted God and my gut that I was doing the right thing.
He still lives in my hometown. My hometown is SMALL. Like, barely a map dot, blink and you miss it small. My family is pretty active in the community and so paths cross. My mom has ran into him several times and I always run into his best friend or one of his parents when I visit, without fail. I mean, there's a grand total of one grocery story so its hard not to, ha. He's got a job in the next county over. It's not a glamorous one but its a big step up from the one he had while we were dating.
As for me, I'm living in city that I adore right down to the very last sparkle of the lights downtown. I know in my heart of hearts I'm where I'm meant to be and that why I'm here will eventually reveal itself. He's got a girlfriend and seems to be happy. I wake up every morning and give thanks that I get to be here, following my own dreams. I trust that everything worked out like it was supposed to.
I'll always have a place for this guy in my heart. But now, almost six years later, I know we weren't meant to be despite how at one point, I felt so strongly that we were. I'm a different person than I was then and I wouldn't be happy if I were still there with him in our hometown. I had the choice to take him back. I chose no and it was the right decision.
Does that help? :)
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sarahk, thanks for the review. Did your ex get a job in a new state and was afraid to ask you to move with him? I'm not understanding what happened.
Could be the case. I found her to be fairly accurate in picking up whether I'd get interviews and details about the people I'd interview with but she was off with outcomes as far as jobs go.
For me, she's still more accurate than not but again, not 100%.
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I spoke to Debra a few couple years ago after meeting someone that I fancied - she picked up on him, described him and was accurate in stating that nothing would come of it (we lived in diff countries).
However, she said some new guy would come in and gave me the name of 'Brandon' and the month I'd meet him. That never did happen but another reader stated the very same thing (same name and month) a few weeks earlier or later, cant recall - very bizarre...perhaps they had picked up on each other's energy?
Anyway, I still get her emails which I enjoy!
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I found her to be fairly accurate in picking up whether I'd get interviews and details about the people I'd interview with but she was off with outcomes as far as jobs go.
Hi sarahkw, most psychics are not reliable when it comes to job interview outcomes.
I enjoyed reading your story though. As they say on discussion boards, cool story, bro. I think people's stories are the most interesting reading on this board, as these psychic reviews haven proven there isn't a consistent psychic for all.
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Hi Sarah! I also enjoyed reading your story. So at some point R wanted to reconcile again, but you said no, because you had already moved on?
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Hi Sarah! I also enjoyed reading your story. So at some point R wanted to reconcile again, but you said no, because you had already moved on?
Exactly. He 'sniffed around' and dropped hints, tried to initiate things again. I got to choose what I wanted and what I wanted was in another state doing something I love. Who knows what the future will hold but at this point, I've moved on, he's moved on, and all is well.
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Hi Sarah! I also enjoyed reading your story. So at some point R wanted to reconcile again, but you said no, because you had already moved on?
Exactly. He 'sniffed around' and dropped hints, tried to initiate things again. I got to choose what I wanted and what I wanted was in another state doing something I love. Who knows what the future will hold but at this point, I've moved on, he's moved on, and all is well.
Well, what exactly made him vanish in the first place?
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Also, how long did it take from the time you broke up to actually hear from him/he started "sniffing around" etc.?
I am curious since you said you read with her for 5 years. Wondering how long it took for her predictions to manifest?
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Hi Sarah! I also enjoyed reading your story. So at some point R wanted to reconcile again, but you said no, because you had already moved on?
Exactly. He 'sniffed around' and dropped hints, tried to initiate things again. I got to choose what I wanted and what I wanted was in another state doing something I love. Who knows what the future will hold but at this point, I've moved on, he's moved on, and all is well.
Well, what exactly made him vanish in the first place?
For a long time, I didn't know what happened. Within days, we went from happy and in love to him just up and ending things. I had a really hard time - I mean really hard time. It wasn't pretty. Hot mess in all ways.
I later learned that ultimately, he got scared. I was a lot more mature than him (and not as mature as I thought). I was all about getting married, settling down. I pushed him to get a better job, to start growing up - the boy let his Mama do EVERYTHING for him. Still does, according to her. He wasn't ready for that.
I believe everything happens for a reason. This breakup was the catalyst for me to stop settling. I was working at a job I didn't hate but didn't exactly love. I was putting aside my feelings to accommodate his. I know - I mean I KNOW - that I'm meant to be where I am. I know that because of my very gut, no psychic, no medium, no nothing told me that. My own instincts did. Going through that breakup destroyed me. And ultimately, it made me stronger and into a much better person, a person I'm proud of.
That might be a little more info than you wanted, but there you go. :)
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Also, how long did it take from the time you broke up to actually hear from him/he started "sniffing around" etc.?
I am curious since you said you read with her for 5 years. Wondering how long it took for her predictions to manifest?
He and I broke up in early 2007. I started calling Debra several months after that, probably 4-5 months later. I went through a lot of other psychics before I called her. I left our hometown in the summer of 2008. That fall, he came back into the picture, right between Thanksgiving and Christmas. Apparently word got out when I came home for Thanksgiving that I was thriving in college (I transferred schools to another state). Seeing me happy made him perk up, I guess.
I'm friends with him and most of his family/mutual friends on Facebook and talk to them occasionally. As I've said, he's in a relationship and happy. I'm single at the moment but happy. I've forgiven him for the heartache he caused. And I've thanked him (not to his face, but in my prayers!) for making me learn so many valuable lessons.
I can't remember timeframes Debra gave me. I honestly can't even remember if she did. But ultimately, her outcome in that situation was right. Her outcome in other situations has been right as well. Again, she's not 100% for me. But she's good enough that I trust her for her insight.
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Hi Sarah! I also enjoyed reading your story. So at some point R wanted to reconcile again, but you said no, because you had already moved on?
Exactly. He 'sniffed around' and dropped hints, tried to initiate things again. I got to choose what I wanted and what I wanted was in another state doing something I love. Who knows what the future will hold but at this point, I've moved on, he's moved on, and all is well.
Well, what exactly made him vanish in the first place?
For a long time, I didn't know what happened. Within days, we went from happy and in love to him just up and ending things. I had a really hard time - I mean really hard time. It wasn't pretty. Hot mess in all ways.
I later learned that ultimately, he got scared. I was a lot more mature than him (and not as mature as I thought).
Sounds soooo reminiscent. Probably true for many here.
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It seems I'm in a habit of reviving old threads this evening...
It had been a long while since I last spoke with Debra. She was so very accurate for me for a long time, not to mention the fact that her guidance was worth the the price of the call, regardless of predictions and outcomes. But after making a very accurate prediction about who would finance me a car a few years ago, she fell flat. Very flat. So I stopped reading with her.
A few months ago, she emailed me the details for her personal site. I cataloged it in case I ever wanted to read with her again as it was much cheaper than her listing on Keen. When I did decide to read with her, hoping things would go well as she'd been so accurate for me previously, I set up a call with her through her personal site. Call it blind faith - someone who had been so accurate once had to be accurate again, right?
It pains me to say it, but the likelihood that I call her again is slim. I never say never to anything, but my last call to her was a disaster.
First, she was THIRTY minutes late. I can give a person 5, 10 minutes. But 30 minutes? In my opinion, that's unacceptable. She did send an email with a flimsy excuse and a promise to call momentarily, but if you're charging someone for your services and schedule an appointment with them, you should do your best to be prompt. At the very least, let the person know as soon as possible that you're running behind.
Then there was the reading itself. It was horrible. I asked about a guy I was mildly interested in. She told me we may go on a date but she didn't think he was "the one" (paraphrasing) and that it wouldn't work out. Then she started talking about the guy I would date - he was rugged and a manly man and tall and I forget what else. Lots of adjectives being tossed out. She also mentioned another guy as being quirky and that while I liked him, I wasn't interested. A friend of mine who recently emailed me fits that description - our mothers would LOVE for us to get together! - and so I said it was likely him.
But from there, she started trying to fit the initial guy I asked about into the "rugged" guy she described. It was ridiculous. She essentially told me "no, that won't work" and then "but I could be wrong so maybe this is him and the more we talk about him the more I like him and blah blah blah."
The reading went flat fast. I didn't even use my entire time with her because she was just terrible. She even started pulling out details that I'd told her in the past about me and using them to sort of expand and fit the reading. For example, after a long pause, she said "oh, and this guy likes music. Jazz maybe. Oh, country. Definitely country." Back when I was calling her and she was accurate, I worked in the country music industry and was trying to advance. I believe she remembered that about me and tried to fit it into the reading.
It's not like she was telling me something I didn't want to hear. I was only mildly interested in the guy and wanted a general love reading more than anything. She was cold reading me, asking me leading questions, didn't give me a single validation. I was sorely disappointed and definitely wasted the money spent on that 15 minute reading.
Perhaps psychics that work for us are only meant to work for us during a time. Debra was so accurate and dependable for me when I needed her to be. Now that I'm in a good place, happy with life and merely curious about whether there will be any romances in the near future, she just doesn't work for me. I do believe she's gifted, I just don't believe I'll be seeking her guidance again.
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She blew my mind with reading the past.. I really hope what she said happens!