The Psychic Reviews
Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Keen.com => Topic started by: SomethingBetter on December 13, 2012, 12:49:11 AM
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Hahaha it's a joking title, but a serious subject.
We've all, at one point or another had readers we believed and trusted because they seemed to know the situation or backstory oh so well, only to find out along the way they were dead wrong. I had it happen to me long ago, and tbh, it was almost as bad as the lost relationship at that time! I felt betrayed and confused and lost. Like I said, we have probably all been there.
My question is, where draw the line when someone you liked and trusted was obviously wrong? Do you decide to read with them about other things still? Do you cut off the relationship altogether? Do you chalk it up to them being human an not getting every one right? What if the situation is obviously bad and they overtly whitewashed it and painted a pretty picture?
The past year I read with: Mystikka (an old fave), Kisha, Sunhee Park, Cookie, Michelle Caporale, and Allison Hayes. Oh and Gaylene. Forgot her lol.
The list has narrowed to Kisha who is always consistently right for me on predictions, actual predictions, not things I just take her word for or assume to be true based off "knowing" the person or situation. (lol cause technically if I really knew the person or situation I would have seen it coming and wouldn't have been in the predicament.)
I may contact Mystikka every few months because she has never led me wrong and I don't need an empath or spiritual advice at this point.
So, my question for everyone else is, when will you/did you draw the line with a reader or favorite reader who was obviously wrong? Will you or did you continue to consult with them and what has you maintaining the relationship?
:) have a good one
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I like the title of this thread and I've posted about my experience in previous threads.
For me, I have a long fuse and I tend to hang onto a situation/relationship longer than I should. I'm learning to cut ties sooner than later for my own well-being.
When we develop a rapport with a particular reader, it's easy to 'overlook' things like he/she is actually wrong about the situation/person in question or they've been feeding you a fairytale all along. We start to think of them as friends even. Sometimes I think it's difficult for the reader to be honest about telling the client not to call so often because of the financial aspect for them. Let's be honest here, how many readers are willing to turn away the business?
In my case, I spent several years talking to one reader about 3 different men. Looking back in hindsight, she was giving me a snow job the first two men I was calling her about. While she has a positive view about guy no. 3, I'm not wasting any more money for fairytales.
Of course, she would give me the 'another guy arriving on the scene' spiel too. >:(
What made me decide to stop talking to her? I ran a mental tally of the money I had spent over the years speaking to her and how many of her "predictions" came through, which is practically zilch. I grew tired of her giving me the same sounding spiels and yes, she did put the blame on me on a couple of occasions for things not manifesting. Puuuhleeze!
Plus she would call me 'dear friend'... no, I do not pay to talk to dear friends!
If a reader also starts giving me attitude and starts acting arrogant as if his/her takes are accurate, no matter what, then I draw the line. I spoke to another reader (who is much loved on this site) for quite some time as well and the final straw was her haughty attitude that began giving me.
She was very accurate about a number of things but also VERY DEAD wrong about others too:
- cards of love between this short lived guy and me. (nope, it was rebound situation for both of us so there is no way in hell there was love)
- up and down connection between this guy and his girlfriend and they wouldn't make it (they're happily married with two kids)
- my lost love has lost his job (nope, he's still gainfully employed at the same firm)
??? ???
Finally, one reader whom I've been consulting for the past 5 years is someone whom I will continue to consult occasionally, only because she's blunt and straight to the point and we click.
Her outcomes haven't been all that great but she is great at reading the present scenario, especially when there is another party involved. I disregard her outcome predictions.
Plus she gives excellent perspectives about life given her age. I find it difficult to take life advice from someone who is much younger than me. (no offense intended by this but it's how I feel about this kind of thing)
My two cents worth.
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I only recently started asking about things other than relationships and that is because I did not totally trust all the readers I read with before finding a few readers from this board. I too hung on to long with some readers and it was finding the few I trust now that made me cut off the others. No one before sapphire, Gaylene or kisha ever gave me something I could validate before. I did have a few I thought I had a connection with but when they said "this is what will happen in a few months but if it doesn't then move on". Seriously? Lol. That was the end for me. I also read with someone who was more wrong than right. Once the wrong outweighs the right I am done. I am tempted at times to try someone new but as long as my current ones are right I don't want to take that risk. Now that I have branched out past the relationship questions I will have no problem dropping a current reader if they end up wrong about other things. I am not as forgiving with wrong info as I used to be.
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I also sum up the hits contra the misses,and then decide whether i will take someone off my fave-list.That list have been drastically altered since i started on Keen 6 years ago :)
In the beginning i was incredible naive.The plus with being a veteran is that i now have very high standards.And some ability in "hearing/knowing"if what they say if correct.(i also use my own cards and methods of insights that help me support my inner feelings)
Of cource not totally,otherwise is i wouldnt have had the need to call.
The most disappointing have been when a reader starts off first time call,incredibly well without tools,with stunning details.For in the following readings have to rely on tarotcards,and not even get that right.
Have anyone also felt this?They go off my list,not matter how great the first impression they made was.
The problem rises when someone is 50% WOW-good,and gives a type of reading no one else does,and then the same reader is 50% dreadfully off on another matter..Ahh..
Then the attitude problem..I have about 3 readers with attitude.But they are all brutally honest,and mostly dead on.I almost feel every call is a burden,and i have to mobilize guts to make the call.But their accuracy weighs up for it.That says a lot about all the warm and caring readers i could have called,but that dont get things quite as right...
Then on one occation i was tried swindled into buying an expensive healing from my most trusted reader through many years.I totally trusted her,she knew i was vulnerable,so that came as a bomb.The money she wanted "to heal"me was insane.I left her one star for that,and a warning to others.She blocked me of cource.
Looking back the loss of her maybe wasnt worth it.Maybe i should have kept silent..
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Zenia, just wondering, how much did she want?
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Zenia, just wondering, how much did she want?
She wanted 2500 dollars.
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Wow! I thought the ones that want $500 were crazy! You did the right thing.
A couple of years ago I had a reading with a Keen reader who promoted healings. I had called her on NYE during the day. She asked me to send her an email with some more details and then she never got back to me until around 9pm that night and wanted $250. I don't even think I responded much less went through with it. I was shocked since her per minute rate was so low. It was supposed to be an evaluation that would give timelines and she was doing it through Keen. It was to take 15 minutes. Right after I got the email from her I checked her rates and they had all gone up to $9.99. Never talked to her again.
I also had a friend I met through a get-your-ex board who paid hundreds for a spell to bring her back. He didn't tell me much as he was bound by contract not to, but I thought it was $500 or more. Nothing worked for him either.
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Wow! I thought the ones that want $500 were crazy! You did the right thing.
A couple of years ago I had a reading with a Keen reader who promoted healings. I had called her on NYE during the day. She asked me to send her an email with some more details and then she never got back to me until around 9pm that night and wanted $250. I don't even think I responded much less went through with it. I was shocked since her per minute rate was so low. It was supposed to be an evaluation that would give timelines and she was doing it through Keen. It was to take 15 minutes. Right after I got the email from her I checked her rates and they had all gone up to $9.99. Never talked to her again.
I also had a friend I met through a get-your-ex board who paid hundreds for a spell to bring her back. He didn't tell me much as he was bound by contract not to, but I thought it was $500 or more. Nothing worked for him either.
Yes,2500 was heavy..She knew she couldnt heal my illness,but i called her regularly so she knew how desperate i was,and she saw the opportunity to fraud me.I was very shocked,and felt awfully betrayed by her.I had called her for years,and i never thought she would do that to me.
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I have to say for me it was Leo. I read with him for years and he was accurate in terms of timing for the most part for the years I read with him about my old SM. But he kept me hanging on way too long that he would come back and we would have a future. He was honest in that he told me for this relationship to work I would have to be the one to compromise and he was right about that. But he was very very wrong when he told me that he didn't see us breaking up, wring because my SM did what he does best and that is disappear. He also did not see anyone else in his life after we broke up and I know now he was dating many others, if I had known this it would have been much easier fir me to let go. I guess I feel he did me wrong by always giving me my SMs sob story, "he is going thru a hard time and just can't be with you even tho he loves you and needs you". "Relax your energy and he will come back, your energy is too strong and that is why he left" and bull shit like that. It was psychologically damaging and has taken me a full year to get over this guy. A word of warning to all, whoever you read with, if a guy is treating you like crap and a psychic gives you their sob story about how hard their life is as to that is the reason, hang up and don't call back. That is a sign that they are not looking out for your best interests. At a certain point with calling them, they should be able to see that it isn't going to work out for your best interest and should advise you to move on. That is why we are calling after all, to see if it will work out or if it will end in heartbreak if we continue.
I wonder how much of those sugary readings are because they are afraid of getting bad feedback.
Every adviser I had spoken to on Keen, save 2 , told me that it eventually would be happily ever after for me ( with that cheating whore of a man).
The other 2, reluctantly, told me the truth-that I could have him if I was willing to share him with dozens of others. One profusely apologized before saying so, and the other warned me that I was going to ‘hate” her for what she was about to say. And I can tell you that both of them expressed the loudest sighs of relief when I thanked them for their honesty.
The later who I have had dozens of readings with, used to use the “hate’ warning all the time, until I starting calling her on her personal site, where I noticed she rarely does that , maybe because the consequences of giving bad news is not as dear.
And in all fairness, I do see bad feedback all the time where someone says that they did not like this or that adviser who told them something different from what other positive forecasting advisers have. That’s why personally , from now on, when I look for someone on Keen, I am going to look at the feedback to see if there is a way back, long history, of different people thanking the adviser for a harsh but honest reading. Does that sound like a good idea?
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@marybell:Yes,that sounds like a good idea! :)
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In my opinion, after reading with psychics for a while and the type of feedback they receive, it is a little easier t know what one will get into calling that psychic, most of the feedback I read are not people talking about manifestation, mostly they are leaving that feedback right after he call, and based on their momentary emotions, not on the reality of the fact that how much of those predications actually panned out. Most of the feedback I read are like, "s/he is great, we had a great connection I feel really better after talking to him/her, s/he is an angel really put me into ease by confirming what I already knew(!) and I am sure what s/he predicted will come to pass and I will update then". This type of feedback is not a valid feedback, it is something written in the heat of the moment, and as it is seen a vast majority of these people never come back to say this and that predictions manifested. Simply because nothing manifested. I personally prefer to read with a reader who actually has couple of people saying s/he was wrong and so and so, than reading with a reader who is all lala land, on top of that I have not seen even one negative feedback on cp, I did write negative feedback myself and they did not post any of them, keen at least does post negative feedbacks as well. This have been said, being someone who had not even one simple prediction pan out (at least yet) I do not really think that any feedback can really be accurate than one's own experience which can be painfully expensive lol ;D
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My list of readers that done me wrong is too long. I can say they were all on Keen and they all suck. In all fairness it suited me just fine at the time…I really didn’t want the truth and well that is what I got. Years ago I was absolutely in love with a con man liar. The stories I got - he is confused, he is scared, he’s depressed…blah blah blah. I am blocking my energy, I am sending him negative thoughts. Pure garbage. I don’t see him contacting you…he’s gone. When a lot of time passed with no contact and predictions falling flat I got the “clean cut man with a pick up truck and dog”…this guy seems very popular with a lot of readers:) I also got lawyer, wealthy, and business owner that would sweep me off of my feet. Well eventually the old guy did come back…but who seriously needs it. The resentment had built over the years with all the bull psychic crap. Instead of being happy for the reconnect…I wanted to stab him mostly for his actions but also the lies I had invested my emotions in. Needless to say time heals all things even the wounds of psychic mumbo jumbo. It did teach me what I want from a man. Reliability, stability, and never having to ask a Keen reader what he is thinking. I learned that if you have to ask a reader what he is thinking it is truly the wrong guy. It’s funny how none of the readers pick up major events in my life but small crap like I changed my hair and random names of insignificant people that I would meet:) So why all the calls you may ask? I was severely depressed over the disappearing man it helped me stay “connected” to someone that could have cared less. It gave me hope for better things when I felt hopeless. I will not list publicly the readers names that I find full of it but if you PM me I will respond to you. Maybe my story is similar to yours maybe it isn’t but one thing is for sure – no one can accurately predict your future it is all in your hands. I do believe there are some great remote viewers on Keen but I know the color of my living room. There were some very honest ones...but chances are if you are calling about a man he is a jerk! A stranger on the phone doesn’t know you or your life and least of all what is best for you…they only know what is best for them and that is for you to call back for an update! When I see feedback that says...the guy dump my ass and she told me he would crawl back and ask me to marry him...I will call that reader! I have never seen that feedback what I see is a lot of hurt, pain, and disappointment when predictions don't happen. Thank you for reading my post:)
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I have to say for me it was Leo. I read with him for years and he was accurate in terms of timing for the most part for the years I read with him about my old SM. But he kept me hanging on way too long that he would come back and we would have a future. He was honest in that he told me for this relationship to work I would have to be the one to compromise and he was right about that. But he was very very wrong when he told me that he didn't see us breaking up, wring because my SM did what he does best and that is disappear. He also did not see anyone else in his life after we broke up and I know now he was dating many others, if I had known this it would have been much easier fir me to let go. I guess I feel he did me wrong by always giving me my SMs sob story, "he is going thru a hard time and just can't be with you even tho he loves you and needs you". "Relax your energy and he will come back, your energy is too strong and that is why he left" and bull shit like that. It was psychologically damaging and has taken me a full year to get over this guy. A word of warning to all, whoever you read with, if a guy is treating you like crap and a psychic gives you their sob story about how hard their life is as to that is the reason, hang up and don't call back. That is a sign that they are not looking out for your best interests. At a certain point with calling them, they should be able to see that it isn't going to work out for your best interest and should advise you to move on. That is why we are calling after all, to see if it will work out or if it will end in heartbreak if we continue.
I wonder how much of those sugary readings are because they are afraid of getting bad feedback.
Every adviser I had spoken to on Keen, save 2 , told me that it eventually would be happily ever after for me ( with that cheating whore of a man).
The other 2, reluctantly, told me the truth-that I could have him if I was willing to share him with dozens of others. One profusely apologized before saying so, and the other warned me that I was going to ‘hate” her for what she was about to say. And I can tell you that both of them expressed the loudest sighs of relief when I thanked them for their honesty.
The later who I have had dozens of readings with, used to use the “hate’ warning all the time, until I starting calling her on her personal site, where I noticed she rarely does that , maybe because the consequences of giving bad news is not as dear.
And in all fairness, I do see bad feedback all the time where someone says that they did not like this or that adviser who told them something different from what other positive forecasting advisers have. That’s why personally , from now on, when I look for someone on Keen, I am going to look at the feedback to see if there is a way back, long history, of different people thanking the adviser for a harsh but honest reading. Does that sound like a good idea?
Marybell,
Great idea and that is what I look for as we'll. can you tell me the readers who were honest with you?
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I have to say for me it was Leo. I read with him for years and he was accurate in terms of timing for the most part for the years I read with him about my old SM. But he kept me hanging on way too long that he would come back and we would have a future. He was honest in that he told me for this relationship to work I would have to be the one to compromise and he was right about that. But he was very very wrong when he told me that he didn't see us breaking up, wring because my SM did what he does best and that is disappear. He also did not see anyone else in his life after we broke up and I know now he was dating many others, if I had known this it would have been much easier fir me to let go. I guess I feel he did me wrong by always giving me my SMs sob story, "he is going thru a hard time and just can't be with you even tho he loves you and needs you". "Relax your energy and he will come back, your energy is too strong and that is why he left" and bull shit like that. It was psychologically damaging and has taken me a full year to get over this guy. A word of warning to all, whoever you read with, if a guy is treating you like crap and a psychic gives you their sob story about how hard their life is as to that is the reason, hang up and don't call back. That is a sign that they are not looking out for your best interests. At a certain point with calling them, they should be able to see that it isn't going to work out for your best interest and should advise you to move on. That is why we are calling after all, to see if it will work out or if it will end in heartbreak if we continue.
I wonder how much of those sugary readings are because they are afraid of getting bad feedback.
Every adviser I had spoken to on Keen, save 2 , told me that it eventually would be happily ever after for me ( with that cheating whore of a man).
The other 2, reluctantly, told me the truth-that I could have him if I was willing to share him with dozens of others. One profusely apologized before saying so, and the other warned me that I was going to ‘hate” her for what she was about to say. And I can tell you that both of them expressed the loudest sighs of relief when I thanked them for their honesty.
The later who I have had dozens of readings with, used to use the “hate’ warning all the time, until I starting calling her on her personal site, where I noticed she rarely does that , maybe because the consequences of giving bad news is not as dear.
And in all fairness, I do see bad feedback all the time where someone says that they did not like this or that adviser who told them something different from what other positive forecasting advisers have. That’s why personally , from now on, when I look for someone on Keen, I am going to look at the feedback to see if there is a way back, long history, of different people thanking the adviser for a harsh but honest reading. Does that sound like a good idea?
Marybell,
Great idea and that is what I look for as we'll. can you tell me the readers who were honest with you?
Hi Angel
Has it worked for you doing it that way? It makes so much sense to me to find an adviser that way. The only 2 that picked up on what I can truly expect were empaths. Soul Love11 and Samantha Wild. Sapphire21, surprised me when she did not see this about him at all. She told me that he would want to be with me if I was warmer and was more myself, less shy, with him. The reality is , that I broke up with him because he was a cheat and one thing for sure is I was never shy around him. So, I am not sure that Soul and Samantha were correct because they were empaths ( because Sapphire was so wrong) but because they are really good or maybe just really good empaths.. lol! I personally prefer empaths for relationship questions because I am more interested in who the man is and if we have what it takes together to make it work. The advisers who make me the most confused are the ones who speak super fast with almost too much information. My alarm bell goes off. I wonder if they are saying so much in hopes that a few things will "stick" that sound right and I will then marvel at their accuracy.
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I completely agree with what you said: "most of the feedback I read are not people talking about manifestation, mostly they are leaving that feedback right after he call, and based on their momentary emotions, not on the reality of the fact that how much of those predications actually panned out. Most of the feedback I read are like, "s/he is great, we had a great connection I feel really better after talking to him/her, s/he is an angel really put me into ease by confirming what I already knew(!) and I am sure what s/he predicted will come to pass and I will update then". This type of feedback is not a valid feedback, it is something written in the heat of the moment, and as it is seen a vast majority of these people never come back to say this and that predictions manifested."
I never thought of this before, although, I am totally guilty of this as I am quick to leave feedback immediately after the call.
Does that mean we should be suspect if someone has a lot of feedback claiming that the their predictions were bang on accurate? Because if you are correct Obe and I think you are, most people do not wait to leave their reviews to see if the outcome manifested
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Marybell, reviewing the feed back there some which came back to give an update, and indicate that they had something manifesting for them. But majority of the feedbacks, in my opinion (which can be totally wrong ;) ) are written in the heat of the moment. I believe we all had that moment that a reader really saw something which was going on and told us some stuff that we were really craving for (both to hear and to happen) and we got excited and very optimistic at that very moment and felt what they predicted is going to happen for sure. So I think this is the moment that people go for writing a feedback. The other thing that I noticed is that there are certain people who continuously are leaving five stars and positive feedbacks for some readers, I am not sure what is the deal with them, but if i am seeing Gina12345 living five stars almost every other day, then it makes me think...
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Obe, you are so insightful :). Hope4love, if you meet a lawyer, trust me and run!!
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Hope4love, I made the comment because I am a lawyer and so is my ex!! Haha. So I guess I am self deprecating too:)!!
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I don't want to leave feedback after a reading. I think that is not really time to leave it, although I know a lot of readers ask us to do it. Frankly, these sites should allow feedback at any time, instead of limiting to a certain time period. Surely feedback is appropriate after something has occurred to validate the accuracy of the psychic. I expect courtesy, professionalism and prompt replies, and I don't read to make friends, so unless I can confirm that something has happened in accordance with the reading, I kind of flinch when a reader asks me to leave one.
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I agree, I prefer feedback after the predictions have occured. I have been following a few caller'sstories on cp, and its nice when their predictions manifest, because I start rooting for them.
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Well since you're all on the subject of feedback, I still have the question remaining, when do you cut a fairytale reader off and do you leave them nice feedback when you do so? Lol
There is someone who use to post here...no longer does because she couldn't play nice. Anywho before she left, I had recommended her to an empath I use and she had pm'd me her keen username so I could see any feedback she left. She was very sketchy about her readings but wanted to know all about mine. Anyway, things blew up, she left the board, but I remembered her username and would see it periodically when I went to look for that empath.
Anyways, I remember this former poster telling me to read with a VERY popular reader on this board and I always said no because said reader doesn't sit well with me. Well today I go and look up said popular reader because I was really wanting a reading and thought maybe my judgement had been to harsh. So I go to this readers page and see dozens of glowing feedback a from this old poster about how the reader "gives her guidance, knows him so well, waiting for him to reach out cause she said he will," blah blah blah. And a part of me is thinking I may contact this reader just to see what the hoopla is about. Until I see her most recent feedback for this reader. 5 stars cause she said she didn't want to hurt the reader (wtf?) but she was wrong, he couldn't have possibly felt what she said he did because he just got engaged to someone else and was obviously taken for a ride.
And this leads me back to the original question. Why not ding the reader? Why still continue to "protect" someone who obviously was wrong at best unintentionally and at worst flat out strung you along? Are we in such a state that we are desperate to hear what we want that we ignore the big warning signs that someone hasn't reached out in 6 months, 8 months, etc?
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Great post something, all I can think of is that people need to justify somehow for themselves things they did, if we want to say that so and so was wrong, then literally we are saying that we ourselves were wrong, becuase of all the "blinded" emotional feedbacks we left for that particular reader. Even on this forum u will see that, on one of the very well known and highly recommended readers, one particular person is all over the place how the reader is great how everything that reader said is panning out bla bla, then all of the sudden the entire story changes and now the reader does not work for this particular individual all of the sudden but the reader is still great. So what I think I am trying to say is that it is hard to take the balme, so maybe we chose to go the easy way
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I don't know who you guys are tacking about but I'll be honest here, I don't think it's really all that funny to post stuff like this.
I'll be the first person to admit that I have most definitely done the same thing as the person you are laughing about. I have had predictions come right (small ones) by a reader and been dragged through the mud by a fairy tale reader for 6 months in hopes that an ex would come back. Spent thousands of dollars on that same reader to not have a positive outcome or the things the reader said come true. Did it take me time to figure out that I was being bs'd? Yes it did. Was I completely naive about the whole thing? Yes. Was it an extremely embarrassing moment when I finally figured out what reality was because I was so sucked in? Absolutely. That was the most horrifying, painful, heart breaking experience in my life. I was a bit younger than I am now, but had to learn the hard way.
Does that make me a complete fool? Maybe? Do I feel like a fool? Yes. Do I look back and pray I had never gone thru that terrible time in my life? Yes. And did I leave great feedback for along time until I finally came to my senses? Yes. And even at the end I still left nice feedback so I didn't have the psychic hate my guts as a person because I left bad feedback. Maybe they would cast a nasty spell on me or something, I have no idea.
Should I be talked about behind my back at Christmas time too?
I don't know why are who you are knocking whomever you are knocking, but hey, if said person comes back and reads my post, I hope that with whatever they went through, they know they aren't alone in heartbreak and mistake making.
I'm really, really disappointed. This forum was made for reviews of psychics, not for bashing people who believed in some psychic's word, only to be dragged along in the mud throughout months of hoping some guy/girl would come back in their lives.
Merry Christmas you guys...
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No one is making fun of this person. I feel awful for her. I don't say "haha look at her." Or use name or anything. I think it's sad Taft this person got dragged around for so long and by someone that many here swear by. To me it proves none of these readers are right about these love predictions and it sucks that this person, as unpleasant as they could be sometimes, had to go through this.
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I did not take it a laughing at anyone, was just an example to a question posed. I do wish there weren't time limits on feedback. I think we would see a lot more negative reviews posted if there weren't. I would gladly leave honest feedback if something did not happen, but I am not going to pay for another reading to do so if my time limit expired for feedback.
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It was an example Jordie, thank you. This melatonin had words escaping me. I agree, feedback should be with an unlimited time.
If anything I am more mad at how some readers have an almost Svengali effect on people. "They are so nice, I feel bad leaving this..." No please leave it. It's your life you call about, these readers should be accountable somewhere and if these stars are all they care about then hit them there.
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Cfisher aka"boss" we were not knocking anyone or laughing at anyone, please keep in mind that the scenario you described suits almost all of us, at least me to a "t". Did I make a mistake calling almost 200 readers yes I did, am I embarrassed and more importantly super stressed out because I spent all my savings and maxed all my credit cards by calling these readers, yes I am, but as u said yourself, the purpose of this forum (or any feedback) would be honest sharing of our experiences, so if in the heat of moment I leave a feedback or just because I think so and so is so nice and I leave a nice feedback, then I would not be really doing what the main purpose of this forum is, correct? I have a friend who once told me people use psychics as their "shrinks". They want someone to give them some positive energy. I do not know how true he is (he is a tarot reader himself). But speaking of myself I do not go to a psychic to be fed a fairytale. My definition of psychic is someone who can see unforeseen and can predict what tomorrow has for me, not a grandma full of advice or a friend with a nice shoulder to cry on, I can understand some people might really be after this, but what we were trying to say here basically is that maybe when we are writing a feedback about a psychic, we should think about our own experience and the embarrassment or regret that we might have felt at the end and try to leave a feedback which might actually warn others that the reality maybe is not really the fairytale that we are being fed by some people...
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No one is making fun of this person. I feel awful for her. I don't say "haha look at her." Or use name or anything. I think it's sad Taft this person got dragged around for so long and by someone that many here swear by. To me it proves none of these readers are right about these love predictions and it sucks that this person, as unpleasant as they could be sometimes, had to go through this.
No, you did not say 'haha look at her', however, your post was rather mean spirited, and you did not seem to feel too awful about dragging someone through the mud, all the while detailing the horrible personal experience and an obviously difficult time this person must have gone through. Even in your above response, you STILL found it necessary to personally knock someone down. Not.Cool. So, forgive me if I find your reply insincere.
Also, I am pretty positive that most of us on here are guilty of this very thing - I know I am - of leaving 5 star feedback for readers after a reading, only to find out somewhere down the line that they were horribly wrong. I think obewhatever (sorry, just can't get the spelling or pronunciation right-no disrespect intended) said it best when she said something along the lines of feeling the positive emotion of the reading, and leaving rating based on that. Have you not done this same thing?? Good for you if you have not ever been fooled or strung along when in a vulnerable state.
I also found that for all the positive reviews about certain popular psychics mentioned here, there are also the negative reviews for same. I find nothing wrong with constructively agreeing to disagree. However, I believe some discretion & tact ought to be exercised when relaying other members' personal experiences.
SB, since you posed a question here, I'd be interested in hearing your answer to your own question.
Sorry all, but I felt it necessary to respond to this as it these types of situations that make others fearful of posting their opinions and such, and many good people have gone away from this forum because of it.
Peace, blessings, and well-wishes to all. :) :)
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Was this person unpleasant to deal with at times? Yes. Do I feel bad for her? Yes. I felt bad for her when she was on the board. How many times have we all been in chat and specifically said a keen username directly and mentioned how badly we felt for someone after reading months or years of feedback? This was the same thing. I just specifically mentioned this because we knew this person an it is sad that I feel, she was duped by this reader.
I have always posted fairly and kindly. So I find this rather out if left field. To answe the question, I feel the minute it becomes obvious you get contrary evidence to what the psychic said, I'd stop calling or leaving them good feedback.
Don't worry about it anyways, I'm done with this board so I'll be deleting this account.
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Hate to see you go SB, you have been a great contributor to this board and a friendly face amongst a sea of crap and negativety. Now THIS is an example of a good person leaving.
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Don't leave SB. I've really enjoyed your posts. We all just get a little emotional around here sometimes. You know how that goes.
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Don't leave, SB. I, too, enjoy your posts.
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Would not that be great if we were all living in a world that everyone had tolerance and respect for others opinions and ideas, I wish we could just take and accept an idea which does not match our and do not take everything personal and do not be offended that easy by a comment or an opinion. "Obewhatever" ;D
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obewhatever,
I agree wholeheartedly!
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SB, please don't go. You are a positive contributor to this forum and I for one respect your opinion and reviews. You have always been kind to me and I'm sure many others here. You did not post anything harmful or disrespectful in this thread whatsoever. You shared an anonymous example only that many of us can relate to. I'm not sure what misinterpreted tone waterwhatever is picking up but it feels more like someone stirring the pot for no reason and just being an outright trouble maker. Don't take the bait. A forum is only as good as its members and SB, you are one of the good ones.
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Would not that be great if we were all living in a world that everyone had tolerance and respect for others opinions and ideas, I wish we could just take and accept an idea which does not match our and do not take everything personal and do not be offended that easy by a comment or an opinion. "Obewhatever" ;D
Lol, yes obe. However, I think many did not get the point I was trying to make. From what I gleaned of that post, it sounds to me that one member confided to another member personal details about their life & readings in PRIVATE. And, that member posted those details on this PUBLIC forum. To me, that is harming someone, no matter whether names were mentioned or not. I have shared very personal details of my own life to others on here, in private confidence, and I know how hurt and upset I would be if one of them posted those details here publicly. Its just wrong, a breach of trust, and I cannot believe I am the only one here who thinks that.
Is it just me that believes that when one confides in another, there is a moral/ethical obligation to keep that private? An unwritten 'code of honor'?
I am not calling anyone a bad person. Perhaps maybe chalk it up to a lapse in judgement, idk. What I DO know is, good things come through no harm to any one or any thing.
Peace to All :) :)
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SB, please don't go. You are a positive contributor to this forum and I for one respect your opinion and reviews. You have always been kind to me and I'm sure many others here. You did not post anything harmful or disrespectful in this thread whatsoever. You shared an anonymous example only that many of us can relate to. I'm not sure what misinterpreted tone waterwhatever is picking up but it feels more like someone stirring the pot for no reason and just being an outright trouble maker. Don't take the bait. A forum is only as good as its members and SB, you are one of the good ones.
'Stirring the pot'? "Trouble maker"?
Sorry if I feel its wrong to post another forum member's private info, anonymously or not. I guess you think that's okay, though.
Enjoy the day! :)
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Come on folks. This is an anonymous board. I doubt anyone knows anyone else outside of this forum. SB gave a valid example of how we sometimes don't see the light regarding readers. She didnt name names and that poster isn't here anymore. Whats the problem?
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@SB - my intention is not to have such a valuable, wonderful person walk away from the board. Not at all. The intention was just to point out that in all honesty, you could have been referring to me personally and your post wasn't exactly the most positive. When I read it, my heart sank. I don't know what your relationship was with this person, nor do I know who you were speaking of. My post in reply to yours was not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. And possibly a little emotional on my end, but not an attempt to bully or put down. Just to point out hey, let's not point out others mistakes. It made ME feel bad, as I said, it could be me that is a perfect example as to what happened to the person you are referring to. I don't know what type of negativity went on between you and the person I'm question, and no, you didn't name names as I know that you would never post personal information on here about anyone, but it was the reference. Maybe I took it too personally. I just know that there are wonderful people on this forum that I have said things to, and I would be devestated if anyone referred to my life or their experience with me on this forum. Even though you didn't say anything mean or horrible or name names.
I have made mistakes in my life, I'm not proud of them, but I've still made them, and your post could very well had referred back to me. Although I'm hoping not!!!!!
Am I sensitive? Hells to the ya! Too sensitive about things? Sometimes. But that's who I am. And again, my posting back to you was merely to point out *please, let's not say things about other forum members*. That's all. Let's not point out or question other people's mistakes or what have you, regardless of if you still talk to someone offline and are friends, or not.
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'Stirring the pot'? "Trouble maker"?
Sorry if I feel its wrong to post another forum member's private info, anonymously or not. I guess you think that's okay, though.
Enjoy the day! :)
Right or wrong your reaction was over the top. Another forum member's info was never posted, it was simply an anonymous example. I agree with loops, what's the problem? My real life is so far removed from this forum that I feel confidant that no one I personally know is reading my posts and if they did I don't disclose enough to put two and two together. If your life is that wrapped up in this forum that you get that emotional about an anonymous post then maybe just maybe it's time to take a step back.
I did enjoy my day, thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the day as well. Take care! :)
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I was going to stay out of this one, but Im sorry I will not. Something better did not say who, imply who, or even give enough specifics for anyone to know who she is talking about. The post was regarding feedback and how one might use the feedback to choose a reader. The post was not intended to hurt anyone or expose any person, her post was simply pointing out what was said and why she chose not to read with someone. I believe that something better has a valid reason and shared her process in choosing a reader.
The forum is for this purpose to discuss why you would or would not read with someone, who is accurate and who is not. Somethingbetter did nothing wrong here, if you feel it applies to you what is said that is not her error. Furthermore she did not mention names or the situation. One thing to consider here is there are so many contradictory post regarding every reader, why single somethingbetter out? This is an place to discuss, and that is what she did!
I dont agree with everyone here, I know for a fact that people misunderstand or better yet make a reading fit their situation and then are quick to say the reader was wrong. I have been in chat when people are discussing what the reader told them, and what they felt it meant, many of us say to them really? It sounds like they are saying this....I guess it depends on what you want to hear. There is nothing wrong with collaborative views, and if you feel there is dont be a part of it.
I care about everyone here, emotions are high but there is no reason to attack or post that a contributing member has no right to voice his/her opinion...we all do.
Somethingbetter, we have had our disagreements regarding readers, we have also found common ground through trial and error. I respect your view and opinions as you do the same for me. All of this disgust me! I hope for the sake of the forum you do not allow others to run you off. I have been the center of attacks as well as many other veteran members, I care about people being mislead....so I put my big girl panties on and stayed. If any of us can spare someone the pain, financial drain, and heartache we all have experienced it is worth it to take a little heat. We have seen people come and go, and then come back, go again, come back...lol you know what I am saying. I have never changed my user name or came back as a different user...this is concerning to me, what is the purpose?
Enough with questioning Somethingbetter, she is entitled to her opinions...we all are. Attack me, dont agree with me, I dont care...Im over that part of this forum!
We have all overspent, made mistakes, and have felt silly! That said, part of the healing process is recognizing these mistakes and dealing with the guilt, shame, and disappointment...without recognizing any of it none of us can begin to heal.
Something, I appreciate your contributions and enjoy them, even when we dont agree! You have given me things to think about when we have went toe-to-toe regarding our feelings on particular readers, that is what this forum is designed to do.
@SB - my intention is not to have such a valuable, wonderful person walk away from the board. Not at all. The intention was just to point out that in all honesty, you could have been referring to me personally and your post wasn't exactly the most positive. When I read it, my heart sank. I don't know what your relationship was with this person, nor do I know who you were speaking of. My post in reply to yours was not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. And possibly a little emotional on my end, but not an attempt to bully or put down. Just to point out hey, let's not point out others mistakes. It made ME feel bad, as I said, it could be me that is a perfect example as to what happened to the person you are referring to. I don't know what type of negativity went on between you and the person I'm question, and no, you didn't name names as I know that you would never post personal information on here about anyone, but it was the reference. Maybe I took it too personally. I just know that there are wonderful people on this forum that I have said things to, and I would be devestated if anyone referred to my life or their experience with me on this forum. Even though you didn't say anything mean or horrible or name names.
I have made mistakes in my life, I'm not proud of them, but I've still made them, and your post could very well had referred back to me. Although I'm hoping not!!!!!
Am I sensitive? Hells to the ya! Too sensitive about things? Sometimes. But that's who I am. And again, my posting back to you was merely to point out *please, let's not say things about other forum members*. That's all. Let's not point out or question other people's mistakes or what have you, regardless of if you still talk to someone offline and are friends, or not.
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'Stirring the pot'? "Trouble maker"?
Sorry if I feel its wrong to post another forum member's private info, anonymously or not. I guess you think that's okay, though.
Enjoy the day! :)
Right or wrong your reaction was over the top. Another forum member's info was never posted, it was simply an anonymous example. I agree with loops, what's the problem? My real life is so far removed from this forum that I feel confidant that no one I personally know is reading my posts and if they did I don't disclose enough to put two and two together. If your life is that wrapped up in this forum that you get that emotional about an anonymous post then maybe just maybe it's time to take a step back.
I did enjoy my day, thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the day as well. Take care! :)
I stand by everything I said. I was not the one who bashed another forum member. I was not the one who disclosed things about & mocked that person, and I don't feel I was over the top. Let's just agree to disagree on this. Obviously, our principals/ethics/morals/ opinions differ on this. But I do find it disturbing that it seems most on here think its ok to taunt another like that. I don't like to see anyone harmed.
And no, my life is most def. not wrapped up in this forum. I rarely ever post anymore.
Wishing you peace - no ill will here. :) :)
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I was going to stay out of this one, but Im sorry I will not. Something better did not say who, imply who, or even give enough specifics for anyone to know who she is talking about. The post was regarding feedback and how one might use the feedback to choose a reader. The post was not intended to hurt anyone or expose any person, her post was simply pointing out what was said and why she chose not to read with someone. I believe that something better has a valid reason and shared her process in choosing a reader.
The forum is for this purpose to discuss why you would or would not read with someone, who is accurate and who is not. Somethingbetter did nothing wrong here, if you feel it applies to you what is said that is not her error. Furthermore she did not mention names or the situation. One thing to consider here is there are so many contradictory post regarding every reader, why single somethingbetter out? This is an place to discuss, and that is what she did!
I dont agree with everyone here, I know for a fact that people misunderstand or better yet make a reading fit their situation and then are quick to say the reader was wrong. I have been in chat when people are discussing what the reader told them, and what they felt it meant, many of us say to them really? It sounds like they are saying this....I guess it depends on what you want to hear. There is nothing wrong with collaborative views, and if you feel there is dont be a part of it.
I care about everyone here, emotions are high but there is no reason to attack or post that a contributing member has no right to voice his/her opinion...we all do.
Somethingbetter, we have had our disagreements regarding readers, we have also found common ground through trial and error. I respect your view and opinions as you do the same for me. All of this disgust me! I hope for the sake of the forum you do not allow others to run you off. I have been the center of attacks as well as many other veteran members, I care about people being mislead....so I put my big girl panties on and stayed. If any of us can spare someone the pain, financial drain, and heartache we all have experienced it is worth it to take a little heat. We have seen people come and go, and then come back, go again, come back...lol you know what I am saying. I have never changed my user name or came back as a different user...this is concerning to me, what is the purpose?
Enough with questioning Somethingbetter, she is entitled to her opinions...we all are. Attack me, dont agree with me, I dont care...Im over that part of this forum!
We have all overspent, made mistakes, and have felt silly! That said, part of the healing process is recognizing these mistakes and dealing with the guilt, shame, and disappointment...without recognizing any of it none of us can begin to heal.
Something, I appreciate your contributions and enjoy them, even when we dont agree! You have given me things to think about when we have went toe-to-toe regarding our feelings on particular readers, that is what this forum is designed to do.
@SB - my intention is not to have such a valuable, wonderful person walk away from the board. Not at all. The intention was just to point out that in all honesty, you could have been referring to me personally and your post wasn't exactly the most positive. When I read it, my heart sank. I don't know what your relationship was with this person, nor do I know who you were speaking of. My post in reply to yours was not meant to hurt anyone's feelings. And possibly a little emotional on my end, but not an attempt to bully or put down. Just to point out hey, let's not point out others mistakes. It made ME feel bad, as I said, it could be me that is a perfect example as to what happened to the person you are referring to. I don't know what type of negativity went on between you and the person I'm question, and no, you didn't name names as I know that you would never post personal information on here about anyone, but it was the reference. Maybe I took it too personally. I just know that there are wonderful people on this forum that I have said things to, and I would be devestated if anyone referred to my life or their experience with me on this forum. Even though you didn't say anything mean or horrible or name names.
I have made mistakes in my life, I'm not proud of them, but I've still made them, and your post could very well had referred back to me. Although I'm hoping not!!!!!
Am I sensitive? Hells to the ya! Too sensitive about things? Sometimes. But that's who I am. And again, my posting back to you was merely to point out *please, let's not say things about other forum members*. That's all. Let's not point out or question other people's mistakes or what have you, regardless of if you still talk to someone offline and are friends, or not.
To All: Can we all just agree to disagree on this, move on, and put it to rest? We all have our own belief system and moral standards.
KTH: I never left the forum, but I did change my username as it was time to do so - my previous user name (TimeHeals) was created at a time when I was in a very dark place in my life, of which you know about, and I am now moving away from that place, and did not want that as a constant reminder hindering my progress and holding me back. So - that was MY purpose for changing my username. As you know, I am much into manifesting/LOA, so any changes I make are for myself only and are in line with my beliefs & the manifesting process. I've been extremely successful in this, and eternally grateful. I wish the same for you and all others.
Peace & well wishes to ALL on this forum. :) :) :)
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Marybell, reviewing the feed back there some which came back to give an update, and indicate that they had something manifesting for them. But majority of the feedbacks, in my opinion (which can be totally wrong ;) ) are written in the heat of the moment. I believe we all had that moment that a reader really saw something which was going on and told us some stuff that we were really craving for (both to hear and to happen) and we got excited and very optimistic at that very moment and felt what they predicted is going to happen for sure. So I think this is the moment that people go for writing a feedback. The other thing that I noticed is that there are certain people who continuously are leaving five stars and positive feedbacks for some readers, I am not sure what is the deal with them, but if i am seeing Gina12345 living five stars almost every other day, then it makes me think...
I have left feedbacks for readers because what they told me felt good and I wanted to keep them happy so that they can keep feeding me the 'drug' LOL. I like forums like this where you can say the truth.