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Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Storefront Psychics & Online Services => Topic started by: Bostongirl on February 05, 2017, 03:09:58 PM
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I read with her on the phone three weeks ago and thought she was wrong. Thought she was reading from the past. Well, what she told me I got confirmation that she was correct describing the person's feelings and why he was doing it. Had another reading with her last night. Things should be happening this week. I will post and keep you all updated.
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Awesome! Do you mean tarot by Penelope? Keep us posted!
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Yes the one on esty.
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Penelope is amazing!! I would go as far as placing bets on her readings. The second time I read with her she asked if I was having water issues???? The first time I read with her there was such a horrible rain storm that she had to put sand bags out to protect her property... The second time I read with her she said right before she called me someone ran into a fire hydrant right in front of her house... Well at the time I had a basement that had just flooded, a toilet that I had to shut the water off to because it broke and my water had actually been shut off the week before because of a mix up with the billing department... I would call those water issues! lol... As far as relationship and my POI, she kept picking up an attorney and was thinking he may be a 3rd love interest, but as the reading progressed I admitted to her that my main POI (who also showed up in the reading as the "emperor" and the person I will eventually pick) and I are using the same attorney, both for custody issues with our kids. I actually got the attorney's information from him... She also saw him coming into my place of work (my POI) and the next day he sent me a message and said he may come in to see me at work!! It didn't actually happen, he never physically came in but we discussed it for two days, our schedules just didn't allow it to work out. Everything she has read for me is coming to pass one day at a time. I would recommend her to anyone!!
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https://www.etsy.com/shop/TarotByPenelope
Is that her?
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https://www.etsy.com/shop/TarotByPenelope
Is that her?
Sure is :D
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yes.
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Does she use reversals? She better or else every outcome will be light and fluffy or the whole reading is light and fluffy
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Not sure if she uses reversals but I know her readings with me have definitely not been light and fluffy.
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Ok, good. I'm pretty well versed in tarot so from experience when those cards aren't in reversals they are usually very positive (and depending on the spread).
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What do you mean reversals? Just out of curiosity... cause I know she mentioned some of my cards being reversed if that's what you mean. I definitely didn't have a light and fluffy reading either... More like straight, honest and to the point. She explains things and has no problem answering questions either. She flat out told me I would be making a decision and that I was going to hurt someone in the process of leaving them in the dust :-\ Not real sure how I feel about that cause I try my hardest to never hurt anyone but I guess it goes with the territory of my situation and getting to where I want to be. Back to the point though, I don't get the feeling that there's ever an over the top light and fluffy reading with her or any type of fairy tales.
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When doing a tarot reading, some readers use reversals and others dont. Reversals symbolize any blocks on movement, stagnant or almost what the opposite of the card may mean. Now if you get 2 of cups as an outcome you may think, "great, we will be reunited!" But if a tarot reader incorporates reversals as well-then the card may be reversed and there will be no re-connection. Hope that helped.
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Wow. She really got roasted on the other board.
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Wow. She really got roasted on the other board.
? What other board?
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SPS review forum
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Mostly complained about her not delivering the readings on time or at all, not responding to requests for refunds when she didn't deliver in the timeframe specified and some complained that she just interprets the cards without a lot of personal insight or intuition. Most concerning thing was she appears have shill accounts she posts false positive reviews from. I haven't read with her myself. YMMV.
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Sooshi, "shill accounts" ???
What evidence do you have of this????
It seems that you're working very hard to ruin this woman's reputation and for what reason??
If you read her Etsy reviews - they're awesome!!
Etsy has a no shilling system where reviews must be authentic as far as the IP address, username, etc.
It seems to me that you are the only one with the problem here.
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It sounds like Sooshi is just telling us what has been speculated on another forum, not that they are trying to ruin the reader's reputation...just keeping us informed on what else is being said out there :) I have also read those reviews/speculations as I lurk that forum but there are also some positive reviews there too. Seems like a blown up customer service issue.
Not enough for me to not read with her again as I've had great experiences with her and she is on my very short list of trusted readers. Glad you like her too Truthseeker00 :) definitely a keeper in my books!
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Sooshi, "shill accounts" ???
What evidence do you have of this????
It seems that you're working very hard to ruin this woman's reputation and for what reason??
If you read her Etsy reviews - they're awesome!!
Etsy has a no shilling system where reviews must be authentic as far as the IP address, username, etc.
It seems to me that you are the only one with the problem here.
I'm just sharing what was written about her on another board. By all means if people want they can register on there and read them for themselves.
Nastasia on SPS seemed to have a rather uncomfortable amount of information about another customer from Penelope. Like if it wasn't Penelope herself making those posts in her defense, then she gossips an awful lot to her customers about other customers. My impression is that Nastasia is a shill account but the other scenario is also possible, though I think less likely. In either case, it makes me apprehensive about buying a reading from her.
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It is only recently that she has done phone and skype readings. When I first found her in September/october all readings were written. I've had two phone readings with her and don't waist my time talking about other clients. It must be someone trying to bash her.
I've found her most ethical. The only problem was she was so busy and I had to wait a few days for one of my written readings. My last phone reading she contacted me and said "the people next door where outside partying" asked if she could do it later as she wouldn't be able to focus. So far out of everyone I've read with she is my number 1. Yes I've read with a lot.
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I'm just putting this out there, If you look up the SPS Review forum, you get nothing but a bunch of hits about how they are being or have been investigated. Penelope is definitely in my top 3, she is wonderful and probably the most ethical adviser I've ever spoken to.
Here's just one example I found.
http://spsreviewforumexposed.tumblr.com/
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Shez and Boston - I've personally had over half a dozen readings with Penelope via Skype. Her tarot reading skills are second to none. Thanks for chiming in and letting others know how awesome this reader is. Her Etsy feedback proves it. You can get a reading with her at a very reasonable price. Try her if you're on the fence!!
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Hello, how long does it usually take Penelope to get back to you once you pay for a reading? Does she contact you for an appointment?
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Hello, how long does it usually take Penelope to get back to you once you pay for a reading? Does she contact you for an appointment?
I'm not sure about anyone else but she contacted me within a day. She's three hours behind me but went out of her way to accommodate my schedule. I sent her a message through Etsy after I purchased the reading. She never responded to the email I sent. I'm thinking maybe her etsy messages are sent to her email? Not real sure.
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Hmm, I did email her the day I paid for my reading which was few days ago but I havs't heard back. I almost feel she is absoutely busy all the time lol.
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Yes, she is very busy. Her email readings are long and detailed. shoot her a message to remind her.
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I did a live reading purchase. At her Etsy account?
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Leo girl how was your reading with Penelope
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Oh, I didn't get the reading yet she still hasn't got back to me.
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Is she just a card reader? Her prices are really up there just for cards.
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no not at all, quite the opposite in fact as she has non traditional interpretations of the cards sometimes, and she's picked up things that are not anything she could get from the cards alone. I've had messages come through that weren't even part of my question which was really cool. shes my go to reader besides yona. Sale going on now too, just grabbed one for later date :-*
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Is there a reason there are two threads for this same reader? ???
Is she just a card reader? Her prices are really up there just for cards.
For me, that's exactly all she was, and not even a good one. Instead of interpreting what the card meant for me, she went through all the things the card "could" mean, what was basically all of the interpretations of the cards.
Like I said in the other thread, it may have just been that she didn't connect to me. I'm kind of jealous that all these people got great readings when I just got a bunch of card interpretations, most of which weren't relevant to what's going on in my life. And the reading I purchased was one of her most expensive at the time (don't know about now because I don't keep up with her shop or what she's offering).
If she didn't connect, I wish she would have just said so and refunded my money. Instead she delivered a bunch of card interpretations as though it was something insightful.
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Is there a reason there are two threads for this same reader? ???
Is she just a card reader? Her prices are really up there just for cards.
For me, that's exactly all she was, and not even a good one. Instead of interpreting what the card meant for me, she went through all the things the card "could" mean, what was basically all of the interpretations of the cards.
Like I said in the other thread, it may have just been that she didn't connect to me. I'm kind of jealous that all these people got great readings when I just got a bunch of card interpretations, most of which weren't relevant to what's going on in my life. And the reading I purchased was one of her most expensive at the time (don't know about now because I don't keep up with her shop or what she's offering).
If she didn't connect, I wish she would have just said so and refunded my money. Instead she delivered a bunch of card interpretations as though it was something insightful.
I had the same experience with my reading as you did. She was completely off on the present, I politely let her know that what she was saying didn't pertain to my situation. She asked me a couple of questions to which I gave specific answers, then she changed what she said. I asked her to clarify for me or if she could give me some details and she couldn't. I was disappointed as well since I had read on this board she was good for so many others.
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Is there a reason there are two threads for this same reader? ???
Is she just a card reader? Her prices are really up there just for cards.
For me, that's exactly all she was, and not even a good one. Instead of interpreting what the card meant for me, she went through all the things the card "could" mean, what was basically all of the interpretations of the cards.
Like I said in the other thread, it may have just been that she didn't connect to me. I'm kind of jealous that all these people got great readings when I just got a bunch of card interpretations, most of which weren't relevant to what's going on in my life. And the reading I purchased was one of her most expensive at the time (don't know about now because I don't keep up with her shop or what she's offering).
If she didn't connect, I wish she would have just said so and refunded my money. Instead she delivered a bunch of card interpretations as though it was something insightful.
Did you have a phone reading? When I read with her over the phone there was one question I asked and she pulled a spread to get an answer to that. The spread gave very little info. So then she pulled another spread for the same question and pieced together the bits of information. I asked A LOT of questions and she tried to explain how the spread applied to my situation instead of giving me the meaning of each card...just letting you know so maybe you can try getting her or another tarot reader to pull another spread?..hope this helps
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For me, that's exactly all she was, and not even a good one. Instead of interpreting what the card meant for me, she went through all the things the card "could" mean, what was basically all of the interpretations of the cards.
Like I said in the other thread, it may have just been that she didn't connect to me. I'm kind of jealous that all these people got great readings when I just got a bunch of card interpretations, most of which weren't relevant to what's going on in my life. And the reading I purchased was one of her most expensive at the time (don't know about now because I don't keep up with her shop or what she's offering).
If she didn't connect, I wish she would have just said so and refunded my money. Instead she delivered a bunch of card interpretations as though it was something insightful.
Did you have a phone reading? When I read with her over the phone there was one question I asked and she pulled a spread to get an answer to that. The spread gave very little info. So then she pulled another spread for the same question and pieced together the bits of information. I asked A LOT of questions and she tried to explain how the spread applied to my situation instead of giving me the meaning of each card...just letting you know so maybe you can try getting her or another tarot reader to pull another spread?..hope this helps
I actually had an email reading. She was very nice and answered my follow up questions. But the answers to my followup questions equated to "you never can tell" and more waffling about the meaning of the cards with no real insight. But maybe that's just the way she reads -- offering lots of possibilities with no definite or clear path...
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I have never purchased a reading from etsy but I would like to try her. It seems she has mixed reviews on another forum though. But a lot of them seem to be really big Yona fans. I might consider penelope and donna maxine. Has anyone tried donna?
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I have never purchased a reading from etsy but I would like to try her. It seems she has mixed reviews on another forum though. But a lot of them seem to be really big Yona fans. I might consider penelope and donna maxine. Has anyone tried donna?
I've tried Donna. I connected with her a lot better than Penelope. But getting in touch takes patience. I ordered an email reading and got it within three weeks. Not sure how long it takes to schedule a phone reading....
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I have never purchased a reading from etsy but I would like to try her. It seems she has mixed reviews on another forum though. But a lot of them seem to be really big Yona fans. I might consider penelope and donna maxine. Has anyone tried donna?
I've tried Donna. I connected with her a lot better than Penelope. But getting in touch takes patience. I ordered an email reading and got it within three weeks. Not sure how long it takes to schedule a phone reading....
How was she with predictions?
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I have never purchased a reading from etsy but I would like to try her. It seems she has mixed reviews on another forum though. But a lot of them seem to be really big Yona fans. I might consider penelope and donna maxine. Has anyone tried donna?
I've tried Donna. I connected with her a lot better than Penelope. But getting in touch takes patience. I ordered an email reading and got it within three weeks. Not sure how long it takes to schedule a phone reading....
How was she with predictions?
I just got the reading in January. So no predictions have come to pass yet, although the way she described the beginning of this year has been accurate. Her reading lined up with a reading I'd gotten in December with Leanne Halyburton. They even used some of the same phrasing (both mp3 email readings).
Regarding Penelope, I DID get a somewhat generic reading because I wanted to know what was coming up for the year. It was a reading she offered that didn't require questions, but looked at several aspects of your life. So again, maybe she wasn't good for me because it was a general reading? I don't know....
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I have never purchased a reading from etsy but I would like to try her. It seems she has mixed reviews on another forum though. But a lot of them seem to be really big Yona fans. I might consider penelope and donna maxine. Has anyone tried donna?
I've tried Donna. I connected with her a lot better than Penelope. But getting in touch takes patience. I ordered an email reading and got it within three weeks. Not sure how long it takes to schedule a phone reading....
How was she with predictions?
I just got the reading in January. So no predictions have come to pass yet, although the way she described the beginning of this year has been accurate. Her reading lined up with a reading I'd gotten in December with Leanne Halyburton. They even used some of the same phrasing (both mp3 email readings).
Regarding Penelope, I DID get a somewhat generic reading because I wanted to know what was coming up for the year. It was a reading she offered that didn't require questions, but looked at several aspects of your life. So again, maybe she wasn't good for me because it was a general reading? I don't know....
Hey giftsdiff, you're the first to mention Leanne on here. May i ask how did you find her accuracy? I read with her for the first time so i don't know. I'm unable to locate any reviews on her anywhere. The way she read my personality traits, thoughts and feelings rang true to me though, so i would say her reading on me as an empath is accurate. As for predictions and events, i have yet to see. The only thing i want to point out about her reading though is that i was a bit confused about the other people in my reading. I can't tell who's who in the reading. For example, she would describe a situation with someone, give me how i would feel about this person which leads me to think it's poi she's referring to, but the physical descriptions wouldn't entirely match. So i just decided to let the reading go instead of trying to figure out who she's picking up on lol. I would be delighted if you shared with me your experience with this reader. :)
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Hey giftsdiff, you're the first to mention Leanne on here. May i ask how did you find her accuracy? I read with her for the first time so i don't know. I'm unable to locate any reviews on her anywhere. The way she read my personality traits, thoughts and feelings rang true to me though, so i would say her reading on me as an empath is accurate. As for predictions and events, i have yet to see. The only thing i want to point out about her reading though is that i was a bit confused about the other people in my reading. I can't tell who's who in the reading. For example, she would describe a situation with someone, give me how i would feel about this person which leads me to think it's poi she's referring to, but the physical descriptions wouldn't entirely match. So i just decided to let the reading go instead of trying to figure out who she's picking up on lol. I would be delighted if you shared with me your experience with this reader. :)
While I think Leanne is the real deal, she does have her flaws. She is bad with timing and bad with descriptions of other people. Maybe it's because she's reading energy?
I've had times when she is not sure if she's seeing one person or two different people because of similar hair colors. Also, she's not consistent with face shapes. And I don't think I've ever gotten an eye color from her.
Also while she gets my thoughts and personality mostly right, when I include info about other people she's hit or miss. And I don't trust those predictions (mostly because they don't make sense and it's obvious she's not connecting).
I have had a couple of small predictions come to pass with her. But nothing big. Also, she likes to tell just about every female they will have a baby or consider having a baby. I'm not sure what's up with that.
Oddly enough the last Ten Predictions reading I had with her was a lot more detailed, love-wise, than those I've had with her in the past, which makes me suspect that things become clearer to her the closer they are to happening.
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Hey giftsdiff, you're the first to mention Leanne on here. May i ask how did you find her accuracy? I read with her for the first time so i don't know. I'm unable to locate any reviews on her anywhere. The way she read my personality traits, thoughts and feelings rang true to me though, so i would say her reading on me as an empath is accurate. As for predictions and events, i have yet to see. The only thing i want to point out about her reading though is that i was a bit confused about the other people in my reading. I can't tell who's who in the reading. For example, she would describe a situation with someone, give me how i would feel about this person which leads me to think it's poi she's referring to, but the physical descriptions wouldn't entirely match. So i just decided to let the reading go instead of trying to figure out who she's picking up on lol. I would be delighted if you shared with me your experience with this reader. :)
While I think Leanne is the real deal, she does have her flaws. She is bad with timing and bad with descriptions of other people. Maybe it's because she's reading energy?
I've had times when she is not sure if she's seeing one person or two different people because of similar hair colors. Also, she's not consistent with face shapes. And I don't think I've ever gotten an eye color from her.
Also while she gets my thoughts and personality mostly right, when I include info about other people she's hit or miss. And I don't trust those predictions (mostly because they don't make sense and it's obvious she's not connecting).
I have had a couple of small predictions come to pass with her. But nothing big. Also, she likes to tell just about every female they will have a baby or consider having a baby. I'm not sure what's up with that.
Oddly enough the last Ten Predictions reading I had with her was a lot more detailed, love-wise, than those I've had with her in the past, which makes me suspect that things become clearer to her the closer they are to happening.
Yeah, the baby thing is concerning. But, then I think, most of us are in our child bearing years...She was recently right about someone having a baby in a 3 year period on that other forum.
I DO think the closer the time it is for something to happen, the clearly the details she gets on it. I think this is true for most psychics though. Still really conflicted about using her long term because a good 20 minutes out of a 35 minute reading is her storytelling and attempts to counsel you with whatever lessons she has personally learned in life. Its damn frustrating.
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Hey giftsdiff, you're the first to mention Leanne on here. May i ask how did you find her accuracy? I read with her for the first time so i don't know. I'm unable to locate any reviews on her anywhere. The way she read my personality traits, thoughts and feelings rang true to me though, so i would say her reading on me as an empath is accurate. As for predictions and events, i have yet to see. The only thing i want to point out about her reading though is that i was a bit confused about the other people in my reading. I can't tell who's who in the reading. For example, she would describe a situation with someone, give me how i would feel about this person which leads me to think it's poi she's referring to, but the physical descriptions wouldn't entirely match. So i just decided to let the reading go instead of trying to figure out who she's picking up on lol. I would be delighted if you shared with me your experience with this reader. :)
While I think Leanne is the real deal, she does have her flaws. She is bad with timing and bad with descriptions of other people. Maybe it's because she's reading energy?
I've had times when she is not sure if she's seeing one person or two different people because of similar hair colors. Also, she's not consistent with face shapes. And I don't think I've ever gotten an eye color from her.
Also while she gets my thoughts and personality mostly right, when I include info about other people she's hit or miss. And I don't trust those predictions (mostly because they don't make sense and it's obvious she's not connecting).
I have had a couple of small predictions come to pass with her. But nothing big. Also, she likes to tell just about every female they will have a baby or consider having a baby. I'm not sure what's up with that.
Oddly enough the last Ten Predictions reading I had with her was a lot more detailed, love-wise, than those I've had with her in the past, which makes me suspect that things become clearer to her the closer they are to happening.
Yeah, the baby thing is concerning. But, then I think, most of us are in our child bearing years...She was recently right about someone having a baby in a 3 year period on that other forum.
I DO think the closer the time it is for something to happen, the clearly the details she gets on it. I think this is true for most psychics though. Still really conflicted about using her long term because a good 20 minutes out of a 35 minute reading is her storytelling and attempts to counsel you with whatever lessons she has personally learned in life. Its damn frustrating.
l agree on Leanne telling stories and preaching. She is also a bit judgmental when talking about her women clients and the questions they ask her etc etc. which put me off.
At one point I asked her something about my POI's personality trait and she said "why do you want to know??..you don't need to know this at this moment"... :-\
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What Leanne are you talking about?
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Probably Leanne Halyburton
www.holyhead.com/leanne/
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Yep, Leanne Halyburton.
But this is her current website: https://leannehalyburton.wordpress.com/consultations/
Also, the last reading I had (which was off) it sounded like she was shuffling cards. I don't know if she's started using cards (she never refers to a specific card she's pulled or anything), but the readings I've had where I hear shuffling in the background have been kind of crappy, even though she's telling less personal stories....
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The link I left leads you the link you left giftsdiff. She's been using WordPress for decades so it's the same thing.
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The link I left leads you the link you left giftsdiff. She's been using WordPress for decades so it's the same thing.
Sorry. I didn't even click on the link. The last time I went there, the page had an error and didn't come up.
I've ordered from her holyhead site in the past, but I remember having to request an invoice for a reading. Now she has Paypal buttons on her Wordpress site, which makes it easier to order.
My best readings from her have come when I only gave her a name and age, even though she insists she gives a better reading when she has extra background information. I think you get a lot more advice and assumptions from her when she's given a glimpse of what's going on in your life. I've always gotten her 10 (and recently 5) Predictions readings, though. Based on that and other people's experiences, I'm not interested in her specific questions listings.
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I'm not sure her specific questions are great either. She is very, very judgemental, especially about relationships.
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The link I left leads you the link you left giftsdiff. She's been using WordPress for decades so it's the same thing.
I think you get a lot more advice and assumptions from her when she's given a glimpse of what's going on in your life.
I felt the same way, I wish I wouldn't have given her any information she definitely assumed things, some of which were wrong. However, I won't know if she's correct or not for a while
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I'm not sure her specific questions are great either. She is very, very judgemental, especially about relationships.
Her specific questions suck! Don't do it, even at a discount. The amount of frustration you will feel wont be worth it.
And I just LOVE how these readers want to coach you on LOA when they themselves say their lives are so miserable. Its like, stop pretending you can really guide people. Say what you see psychically and leave out the rest.
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I'm not sure her specific questions are great either. She is very, very judgemental, especially about relationships.
Her specific questions suck! Don't do it, even at a discount. The amount of frustration you will feel wont be worth it.
And I just LOVE how these readers want to coach you on LOA when they themselves say their lives are so miserable. Its like, stop pretending you can really guide people. Say what you see psychically and leave out the rest.
How do you take away predictions amidst all the judgmental statements? To me, the reader's credibility goes down with that attitude and I'm not so sure about predictions...
I've been reading long enough to know when a psychic is switching from "psychic mode" to "assuming, ranting, guessing". Leanne is so up and down that on some days, she can just stick to the psychic facts without her interpretation...other days its Leanne 101 lecture course. And, a lot of predictions have come through when I make note of the actual predictions she gives, so yeah.
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I'm not sure her specific questions are great either. She is very, very judgemental, especially about relationships.
Her specific questions suck! Don't do it, even at a discount. The amount of frustration you will feel wont be worth it.
And I just LOVE how these readers want to coach you on LOA when they themselves say their lives are so miserable. Its like, stop pretending you can really guide people. Say what you see psychically and leave out the rest.
How do you take away predictions amidst all the judgmental statements? To me, the reader's credibility goes down with that attitude and I'm not so sure about predictions...
I've been reading long enough to know when a psychic is switching from "psychic mode" to "assuming, ranting, guessing". Leanne is so up and down that on some days, she can just stick to the psychic facts without her interpretation...other days its Leanne 101 lecture course. And, a lot of predictions have come through when I make note of the actual predictions she gives, so yeah.
This thread is no longer about Penelope. Please, change subject line or create a new thread. It's so confusing when this happens (and it happens a lot)
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I'm not sure her specific questions are great either. She is very, very judgemental, especially about relationships.
Her specific questions suck! Don't do it, even at a discount. The amount of frustration you will feel wont be worth it.
And I just LOVE how these readers want to coach you on LOA when they themselves say their lives are so miserable. Its like, stop pretending you can really guide people. Say what you see psychically and leave out the rest.
It's about Penelope or about Leanne? This thread has been changing, and it's now hard to follow who you're referring to.
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I second that @Copperhead. This happens a lot, and becomes confusing.
I'm not sure her specific questions are great either. She is very, very judgemental, especially about relationships.
Her specific questions suck! Don't do it, even at a discount. The amount of frustration you will feel wont be worth it.
And I just LOVE how these readers want to coach you on LOA when they themselves say their lives are so miserable. Its like, stop pretending you can really guide people. Say what you see psychically and leave out the rest.
It's about Penelope or about Leanne? This thread has been changing, and it's now hard to follow who you're referring to.
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I had to come and add that I wish I had not told her my story post which she did a 180 degree turn in her predictions!
So she first predicted something via email, then I had a series of follow ups and she was kind enough to reply to each one of them promptly, during which I told her my story, post which she made a comment which was opposite to what she had originally predicted.
When I asked her if she doesnt mind confirming the predictions "as per reading not based on my story", she replied saying she trusts her cards but she "doesnt think" so after hearing my story..
This kind of statement she made is sadly a bit unprofessional. I will update on her original unbiased predictions..
I had that exact same experience with her but I received no clarification.
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for those saying Penelope said she doesn't think so based on your story but trusts the cards, what that means is that SHE as a person doesn't think so but the cards are the cards she's just a messenger.
Look if you ask her if so and so is going to come back to you and the cards spell it out that yes that is the case and then you tell her that you burned his house down and killed his dog, then yea maybe Penlope the person may have an opinion that contradicts what the guides tell her but the cards dont lie.
She's not the spirit she's the messenger. Her opinion is her opinion. I just had a reading with Estrella who told me I would be married end of next year and with someone I would meet THIS year by August and he would be a certain age. When I told her my age and circumstances she said hey, yea, I agree, I wouldn't believe this either and it doesn't sound logical but thats what it says. I get it. Not her job to believe or not to believe, she doesn't know me she's just relaying a message.
I think lots of people expect readers to be magicians. They're not. Would a news reporter be unprofessional if they said Hey, the weather says its going to be 90 degress today but its February in NYC and it's been snowing for two weeks so I can't see this happening. They didn't make the weather they just report it. get it?
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which is why readers need to keep their opinion OUT of the reading. just relay the message. period.
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which is why readers need to keep their opinion OUT of the reading. just relay the message. period.
I agree. We're a paying client paying for psychic information. I'm not paying for what she thinks as a person - I can think for myself.
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personally if we all heard each others stories, we would say that person is mad. Their PIO is not coming back. I try really hard to not give readers too much information. I always ask what do they see coming up? Very few readers have gotten my situation correct, and I mean very few. Can count on one hand.
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I agree, readers need to keep their personal opinion out altogether... For Penelope in particular, please just never tell her your story.
which is why readers need to keep their opinion OUT of the reading. just relay the message. period.
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She was originally late in her delivery like about 5 days from the day I purchased the reading, so may be she was trying to compensate for it by replying promptly..which is why I recommend you set the date you will get your reading in advance so there is no confusion there..
I had to come and add that I wish I had not told her my story post which she did a 180 degree turn in her predictions!
So she first predicted something via email, then I had a series of follow ups and she was kind enough to reply to each one of them promptly, during which I told her my story, post which she made a comment which was opposite to what she had originally predicted.
When I asked her if she doesnt mind confirming the predictions "as per reading not based on my story", she replied saying she trusts her cards but she "doesnt think" so after hearing my story..
This kind of statement she made is sadly a bit unprofessional. I will update on her original unbiased predictions..
I had that exact same experience with her but I received no clarification.
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Regardless of the fact that she changed her predictions for and was inconsistent, she was incorrect in her predictions on both accounts. I'm not bashing her, not every reader is for every person. Not every person is going to have success with every reader. Nothing personal against her, I just don't like getting flip flopped predictions after a reader asks questions and you give them more information.
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@SunshineChick22 Too bad the predictions didnt work for you...Glad you let us know this information..I second you on the flip flopping of predictions..
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Regardless of the fact that she changed her predictions for and was inconsistent, she was incorrect in her predictions on both accounts. I'm not bashing her, not every reader is for every person. Not every person is going to have success with every reader. Nothing personal against her, I just don't like getting flip flopped predictions after a reader asks questions and you give them more information.
I had two readings with Penelope. Her perspective helped me a lot on two situations, one romantic and one work related. She nailed the present and past surroundings and her advice, mostly on the job situation, helped me made a decision. Predictions in the first reading didn't happen. In the second, who knows, they don't concern me and she didn't give me a time frame (she basically predicted that my ex and his current love interest will break up badly).
So, I wouldn't use Penelope for outcomes, I don't think it's her strength, but in my opinion she's phenomenal in presenting what's going on and clarifying the situation so that we can take our best course of action.
After all, this also how tarot cards work the best: as suggestions, psychological support and foundation, clarifications, tools to guide our own free wills.
Don't ask tarots what will happen but what you should do in order to go where you'd like to be.
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I was just going off of what you said. You said you asked for her opinion not that she offered it without asking. You literally said that. so clearly you must have already known yourself that you would get an opinion since you asked for it.
I agree, readers need to keep their personal opinion out altogether... For Penelope in particular, please just never tell her your story.
which is why readers need to keep their opinion OUT of the reading. just relay the message. period.
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all I am saying is that tarot is not a guessing game
Yes, it is. It is a refined 'guessing' game. You need to know the meaning of the cards but each card has so many different possible interpretations based on the position they come in the spread, what type of spread, etc., that it's absolutely necessary to have excellent intuition and lots of practice to get the most fit and best interpretation. It also helps the reader to have a little bit of a background.
Outcomes in tarots are possibilities - Many serious tarots readers don't do predictions.
Best use of tarots is for guidance and understanding. It's a tool for the present (or understand the past).
Those who care more about predictions should use tarots readers.
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I was actually agreeing with you and saying that it's not a guessing game for a skilled intuitive or psychic reader, they are going above and beyond the meaning of the cards as written in the books. Thats why I think you SHOULD tell a tarot reader your story because its a collaborative process where they give you insight into your situation. She said she would never have mentioned something totally random that came through for her because it didn't make sense until I mentioned something in my story and then it made sense. It was a blue dog and she picked it up intuitively but it was when I told her what the blue dog referenced that she was able to make all the puzzle pieces fit and understand what the cards were saying. The psychic hit of "doggy blue" came from somewhere else, from wherever this info comes from. Not from the cards but the cards wrapped a story around it that was specific to me. Don't know if that made sense. Same cards for someone else would mean something else and a good reader can tell their story to them.
all I am saying is that tarot is not a guessing game
Yes, it is. It is a refined 'guessing' game. You need to know the meaning of the cards but each card has so many different possible interpretations based on the position they come in the spread, what type of spread, etc., that it's absolutely necessary to have excellent intuition and lots of practice to get the most fit and best interpretation. It also helps the reader to have a little bit of a background.
Outcomes in tarots are possibilities - Many serious tarots readers don't do predictions.
Best use of tarots is for guidance and understanding. It's a tool for the present (or understand the past).
Those who care more about predictions should use tarots readers.
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I was actually agreeing with you and saying that it's not a guessing game for a skilled intuitive or psychic reader, they are going above and beyond the meaning of the cards as written in the books. Thats why I think you SHOULD tell a tarot reader your story because its a collaborative process where they give you insight into your situation. She said she would never have mentioned something totally random that came through for her because it didn't make sense until I mentioned something in my story and then it made sense. It was a blue dog and she picked it up intuitively but it was when I told her what the blue dog referenced that she was able to make all the puzzle pieces fit and understand what the cards were saying. The psychic hit of "doggy blue" came from somewhere else, from wherever this info comes from. Not from the cards but the cards wrapped a story around it that was specific to me. Don't know if that made sense. Same cards for someone else would mean something else and a good reader can tell their story to them.
all I am saying is that tarot is not a guessing game
Yes, it is. It is a refined 'guessing' game. You need to know the meaning of the cards but each card has so many different possible interpretations based on the position they come in the spread, what type of spread, etc., that it's absolutely necessary to have excellent intuition and lots of practice to get the most fit and best interpretation. It also helps the reader to have a little bit of a background.
Outcomes in tarots are possibilities - Many serious tarots readers don't do predictions.
Best use of tarots is for guidance and understanding. It's a tool for the present (or understand the past).
Those who care more about predictions should use tarots readers.
Yes, totally agree
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@Copperhead, your post on Present being accurate but the outcome not having manifested is appreciated..knowing the present might be helpful for some situations but personally for me, outcome does matter the most..
Regardless of the fact that she changed her predictions for and was inconsistent, she was incorrect in her predictions on both accounts. I'm not bashing her, not every reader is for every person. Not every person is going to have success with every reader. Nothing personal against her, I just don't like getting flip flopped predictions after a reader asks questions and you give them more information.
I had two readings with Penelope. Her perspective helped me a lot on two situations, one romantic and one work related. She nailed the present and past surroundings and her advice, mostly on the job situation, helped me made a decision. Predictions in the first reading didn't happen. In the second, who knows, they don't concern me and she didn't give me a time frame (she basically predicted that my ex and his current love interest will break up badly).
So, I wouldn't use Penelope for outcomes, I don't think it's her strength, but in my opinion she's phenomenal in presenting what's going on and clarifying the situation so that we can take our best course of action.
After all, this also how tarot cards work the best: as suggestions, psychological support and foundation, clarifications, tools to guide our own free wills.
Don't ask tarots what will happen but what you should do in order to go where you'd like to be.
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I agree, readers need to keep their personal opinion out altogether... For Penelope in particular, please just never tell her your story.
100% on this.
When she said she didn't understand what I was asking, I gave her some details. It turned into, and this is an exact quote from her mouth "it's less of a psychic reading and more how business works" like I was a simpleton. I'm not one of the highest paid people in the entire state in my line of work because I don't understand how business works. Then she started spouting her personal opinion as legal opinion and it was :o time because if she is psychic, she ought to be seeing why I don't need legal advice. Then she was practically shouting that I "wanted the brutal truth" and this was all "common sense",
I was very upset by my reading with her. I think if she had stuck to the cards, it would have been fine, but she didn't. It started out ok and I got one answer in the very beginning that I believe to be true, but the rest was straight downhill. I was nearly physically ill over the possibility that she was right about something extremely important, but I've since found out through someone else with firsthand knowledge that it is not what is happening at all and her conjecture about this was pure horseshit.
The fact that she was so wrong about this really important thing and let her opinion shit all over the reading made the whole reading a throwaway for me because it was 95% how she felt things worked versus what I saw with my own two eyes. I needed her for what I couldn't and didn't see, not to argue with me about factual matters.
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I agree, readers need to keep their personal opinion out altogether... For Penelope in particular, please just never tell her your story.
100% on this.
When she said she didn't understand what I was asking, I gave her some details. It turned into, and this is an exact quote from her mouth "it's less of a psychic reading and more how business works" like I was a simpleton. I'm not one of the highest paid people in the entire state in my line of work because I don't understand how business works. Then she started spouting her personal opinion as legal opinion and it was :o time because if she is psychic, she ought to be seeing why I don't need legal advice. Then she was practically shouting that I "wanted the brutal truth" and this was all "common sense",
I was very upset by my reading with her. I think if she had stuck to the cards, it would have been fine, but she didn't. It started out ok and I got one answer in the very beginning that I believe to be true, but the rest was straight downhill. I was nearly physically ill over the possibility that she was right about something extremely important, but I've since found out through someone else with firsthand knowledge that it is not what is happening at all and her conjecture about this was pure horseshit.
The fact that she was so wrong about this really important thing and let her opinion shit all over the reading made the whole reading a throwaway for me because it was 95% how she felt things worked versus what I saw with my own two eyes. I needed her for what I couldn't and didn't see, not to argue with me about factual matters.
she work for me didn't give her any information just said the poi name what she pick up in the card she said my poi is blocking me out or ignore me or it make her gone crazy because she want to go deep and sort out her feeling. Then she give me good news she also said it not one side she also has feeling for me too but she not ready so she said it not a waste of time.
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I also found her throwing he opinions alot and being argumentative . the info she gave me didnt resonate as it contradicted the reality . my reading was about a year ago . nothing has pan out yet .
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I also found her throwing he opinions alot and being argumentative . the info she gave me didnt resonate as it contradicted the reality . my reading was about a year ago . nothing has pan out yet .
But you don’t like any psychics at all
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This the Facebook or Etsy one we are talking about??
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This the Facebook or Etsy one we are talking about??
facebook - reading by penelope
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This the Facebook or Etsy one we are talking about??
facebook - reading by penelope
Love fb Penelope. Read with her a few times & she has honestly gotten better for me with each read. The other one I don't know.
She's the one with the black and white picture right?
I've asked her to schedule readings a couple times and she ghosts me every time. lol!!
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Tarot by Penelope is not Penelope Hope from Keen is she? Just curious. Anyone try Penelope Hope btw. Is she accurate and reliable? Anything on her?