The Psychic Reviews
Relationship Psychology Discussions => The Vent => Topic started by: Seeker23 on February 16, 2019, 01:28:58 PM
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I learned through the hell I was put through, of how two faced the man really is. I took the advice of psychics, I have been in tears and torment for about a year over this and over what he has done. I probably could go on a diatribe of the hurt.
He calls me unbelievable names. Beyond hurtful, I can not bare ever since he went with one woman.Obviously, what she told me months ago was, indeed, a sick game. My heart breaks every day, my anger is, I cannot describe my anger over this.
I feel my heart will never heal.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god, was I deathly wrong to do so. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
Their predictions are false.
Please I ask of anyone to stay clear of a few particular psychics u will mention, but I am writing this in tears after the name, he never called before, but stared to when this woman came along in his life.
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I learned through the hell I was put through. Of how two faced the man really is. I took the advice of psychics, I have been in tears and torment for about a year over this and over what he has done.
He calls me unbelievable names. Beyond hurtful, I can not bare ever since he went with one woman.Obviously, what she told me months ago was, indeed, a sick game. My heart breaks every day, my anger is, I cannot describe my anger over this.
I feel my heart will never heal.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god was I deathly wrong. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
Their predictions are false.
Please I ask of anyone to stay clear of a few particular psychics u will mention, but I am writing this in tears after the name, he never called before, but stared to when this woman came along in his life.
Im really sorry you're going through this. I hope if you continue using psychics in the future, thou read with some who connect well to you. You deserve happiness <3 if you need someone to talk to, please dont hesitate to PM me, if you need to vent
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Sorry you are going through such a hard time. Who have you read with exactly? Did you ever read with yona, aries intuition, cookie, mattie etc?
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No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god was I deathly wrong. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
I am so sorry you are going thru this. 💔
I also don't understand your post. Your readers told you the above and they were wrong? They said he didn't miss you or love you but he does?
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He did unblock me, that did happen. But a game to play with me, it seems. And decided to unblock everything during Valentine's weekend.
I did not say anything in return to him. And he asked"are you there"? I was silent and hung up. Just like omg..
He started the name calling because this woman he went to calls me those names.
He never did that before her.
I just got tired of "waiting". Being told by psychics this is going on, that is going on. Some not focusing on what may come into my life. So I had to test things myself.
The reader that told me he would be unresponsive is wrong. He responded, alright and probably having a laugh at my shock.
Sometimes, you really do have to find out for yourself.
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I am so sorry Seeker. I felt the same way with what happened to me. What my ex did was evil and what the psychics did was even worse. I felt like they all tortured me. It was the worst thing I ever experienced. I felt so humiliated. No one understood what I was feeling or how much this messed with my head. I thought I would never get over it. But it does get better I promise. The truth sets us free. It is hard at first realizing how much you've been lied to. But then you get a lot of energy back. Because it takes so much effort to believe in the false reality they tell you. Once you know the truth you can get your real life back. You will start to feel a lot better. It will take some time. Let out everything you feel.
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It is hard, you ask for honesty, maybe some good advice and you get just nonsense.
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I learned through the hell I was put through. Of how two faced the man really is. I took the advice of psychics, I have been in tears and torment for about a year over this and over what he has done.
He calls me unbelievable names. Beyond hurtful, I can not bare ever since he went with one woman.Obviously, what she told me months ago was, indeed, a sick game. My heart breaks every day, my anger is, I cannot describe my anger over this.
I feel my heart will never heal.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god was I deathly wrong. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
Their predictions are false.
Please I ask of anyone to stay clear of a few particular psychics u will mention, but I am writing this in tears after the name, he never called before, but stared to when this woman came along in his life.
Im really sorry you're going through this. I hope if you continue using psychics in the future, thou read with some who connect well to you. You deserve happiness <3 if you need someone to talk to, please dont hesitate to PM me, if you need to vent
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There was about 12 readers that told me, I was wrong, my feelings were wrong that it is completely over with. That this man misses me badly, he loves me only, he is lost without me, etc.
All kept saying wait for contact.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god was I deathly wrong. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
I am so sorry you are going thru this. 💔
I also don't understand your post. Your readers told you the above and they were wrong? They said he didn't miss you or love you but he does?
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There was about 12 readers that told me, I was wrong, my feelings were wrong that it is completely over with. That this man misses me badly, he loves me only, he is lost without me, etc.
All kept saying wait for contact.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god was I deathly wrong. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
I am so sorry you are going thru this. 💔
I also don't understand your post. Your readers told you the above and they were wrong? They said he didn't miss you or love you but he does?
Been there hun...let the universe take its course and let him see he LOST someone and not u. Go out and have fun . Enjoy life
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God gosh. It realls sucks. But now that I think about it, he made of did that because the exchange I had with the woman months ago where I told her, If she does not want him, then she should stop calling him, lingering on social media and just go away. Their previous relationship sounded so unhealthy and what these two do back and forth over the years. No one sees it. I do not understand why it is so tolerated on her end. That could of been done in retaliation.
What he does is different than others. He doesn't say anything and will ignore...saying not much of anything and he was that way when I was with him. He would be silent and keep things to himself. Like I was never told, "oh go move on"....get the hell out of my way...never call me again. Instead he complained to others that I wasn't saying or talking to him when I found this out. What do you say initially?? It was a slap in the face.
It took him a great deal of time to even block on social media. A mean 7 months and I was not contacting him, at all. Someone or something just made him to decide that and I making her the guilty party. The old "do not ever talk to that woman.' That happens.
Believe me, if she wasn't around he would not be doing that. I know that much.
She had texted me, "she would just like to forget him and anyone associated with him." The woman pisses me off. That may have been a game, though.
And if a game is being played on me. Why are these empaths and psychics not sensing this is a huge question.
The very last one I confronted about a reading said, "No you are wrong." "She'he said she is contacting him and directing him towards her, but he is ignoring her, he only sees her as a friend. He will stop this.
It was a funny exchange. Because I told the psychic, you are describing my end, not hers. He chooses to ignore me. Why do you have this switched around. But it does provoke curiousity...not really wanting to talk to him, but pure curiosity to know what is really going on.
It is true that he did not call me names before she came along and is very much the result of her and what she says. 55
Why can't someone just telling me about anyone new. I get it that these people are so used to people coming to them about an ex.
It has been the strangest week for me. At the beginning I had a dream that I and a few others were in his apartment building. A friend of mine knocked out a friend of his that said something offensive to me. Grabbed the guy by the collar and then threw him to the floor.
I entered this guys apartment and one person asked, "did you find child pornography in there?" Wicked dream.
There was about 12 readers that told me, I was wrong, my feelings were wrong that it is completely over with. That this man misses me badly, he loves me only, he is lost without me, etc.
All kept saying wait for contact.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god was I deathly wrong. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
I am so sorry you are going thru this. 💔
I also don't understand your post. Your readers told you the above and they were wrong? They said he didn't miss you or love you but he does?
Been there hun...let the universe take its course and let him see he LOST someone and not u. Go out and have fun . Enjoy life
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The psychic "Special Price 1.99!! Reg 5.99," is type of name they have was wrong and had nothing positive to say. They charge $1.99 per minute.
Zachary Anthons made a mistake in a reading and decided to "run with it" and do a reading from that. But I was asking about someone new coming in. They said, "
i know things look bad now in love dear but from what i pick up on your aura i do see things turning around and do see good karma coming your way in love department
But then referred back to the ex that he will reach out to talk to me in May.
Field expert had this to say and again I was asking about someone new, 'he sure does think about you from time-to-time, however, with him being all over the place and contradicting himself he always made things complicated - he always went back from his thoughts, feelings and the emotions.
'that he had for you - he still does misses you, but yes, he has kept himself as to distracted lately, what he is doing does not add up because in regards to the future perspective, he is not doing anything meaningful about it
'furthermore, he has just always created a mess within his life and expected someone else to solve it for him - but it is true that he does think about you, regardless of the frame that he
did put up about him and his ex or whatsoever, conversely the cards do show you having kids, I know you are tired - you do not want to date, you do not want to play any games, you do not wish to wait either, but to come
you do look much younger than your age
They tried to pull some remote viewing.
Psychic Shayna:
everytime u flashes in his mind and he cant stop thinking about u honey
i can sense that he have feelings for u and want to make a storng relationship with u my dear
but honestly honey he will need u and he is looking for a true love in his life
i can sense that the distance between u and him is just because of little missunderstanding
I tried Mrs Jones and got kicked off.
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Trust me you aren't missing anything with Mrs Jones.
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I am going to got out on a limb here, but as soon as they call you "dear", it's time to run. 😑
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Trust me you aren't missing anything with Mrs Jones.
A lot swear by her.
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Well then someone must have been filling in for her when i called.
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That bad?
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Well then someone must have been filling in for her when i called.
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This was my actual reading. I should have hung up during the intro.
Hello
Mrs. Jones: Hello beautiful soul
Hi Mrs Jones
Mrs. Jones: did u get chance to read what i wrote
I got your welcome into the room. Am i missing something? I know bitwine is a little glitchy at times (yes i read beautiful soul and?!?)
Mrs. Jones: yes lol Yes sweetie how may i help u
I was hoping if you could tell me if i will hear from xxx anytime soon?
Mrs. Jones: okay sweetie i will need the last contact and time if u remember, and time if u remember, also your real name (really she needs specifics smh)
Mrs. Jones: i will send charge after i focus
Anyways fast forward to predictions:
Mrs. Jones: okay sweetie first to ease your mind Yes
u will hear from him But
right now sweetie i sense female energy around him but not coompletely connected
Ok
Mrs. Jones: however there is female energy, i tell u ths because u may find out I do not want u to worry
Mrs. Jones: i get the number 6 for reconnect but not relationship
This reading was in Nov and we reconnected in Jan so she was wrong. It wasn't the 6 day. Week, time, or anything.
The reading basically went like this and really was very vague in my opinion.
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Trust me you aren't missing anything with Mrs Jones.
A lot swear by her.
who? I've never even heard of her lol was she ever even mentioned on this board?
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I think she has been mentioned in a few threads. That's how i got swayed into reading with her. Save your $ with this one. That is unless others reading with her were more detailed and less blah.
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Yeah...there's the "sweetie" thing again. Click off when you start getting pet names.
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Yes and what was the deal with did you read what i said. Like great I have a beautiful soul now tell me what i need to really know.
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What is odd about her. Is she does not have a single negative review.
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I don't think I left her a review because honestly the only thing i could leave feedback on within the 2 week time period was the reading. So I figured why bother. I would have given her a satisfactory because her prediction could have been right. Plus you know if you post something slightly negative they will say you can't handle the truth.
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Yes, that argument. I have seen it many times. I left a negative review for one, once and she message me, "you put pressure on me from other readers and was very demanding for me to change my review." I was like ummm….ok.....this absolutely ridiculous..
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I had seen many times for particular Readers they had negative reviews today but it's gone the next days. Sure enough they had contacted the clients and offered them to remove the negative reviews. I don't leave negative review, I just didn't leave any review if I wasn't happy about it, after all, i still need to pay for their time even though they are fake :p
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Your ex sounds like he may have narcissistic personality disorder. There's videos on youtube that can help you identify the behaviors and heal from narcissistic abuse.
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Actually one said what they saw.
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he has borderline personality disorder with an dissaociative behavioir and on an balance of probabilities, he is also obsessive compulsive and narcissistic
Your ex sounds like he may have narcissistic personality disorder. There's videos on youtube that can help you identify the behaviors and heal from narcissistic abuse.
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I learned through the hell I was put through, of how two faced the man really is. I took the advice of psychics, I have been in tears and torment for about a year over this and over what he has done. I probably could go on a diatribe of the hurt.
He calls me unbelievable names. Beyond hurtful, I can not bare ever since he went with one woman.Obviously, what she told me months ago was, indeed, a sick game. My heart breaks every day, my anger is, I cannot describe my anger over this.
I feel my heart will never heal.
No, unlike the psychics will tell you, he does not miss you, he does not love you only, he will not apologize. An apology will not fix this. Especially, coming from a man that acted so crazy about me and told me he loved me. But all this changed when this woman came into play.
I made an attempt to contact, his words were, I do not want to repeat with stop calling so and so ..... I do not want to say. I reached out over what they told me. Oh my god, was I deathly wrong to do so. Oh my god did the hurt come back. He is beyond evil with what he has done to me, no one can understand my anger or sadness.
I have been tortured in this. I have been humiliated. All psychics were wrong. This has caused me a great deal of depression and he does not care.
Their predictions are false.
Please I ask of anyone to stay clear of a few particular psychics u will mention, but I am writing this in tears after the name, he never called before, but stared to when this woman came along in his life.
I'm sorry this happened to you. Honestly I've had similar experience. Here on this board people mention fairy tale readings. That's true many will just tell you what you want to hear. It's really assuring to hear this at the time but bigger picture isn't helping you. I prefer a psychic reading that is honest and straight with me about my options in the situation. Not harsh on me but empowering and no false hope. Many psychics will say in their description 'no sugarcoating' or 'honest'. The feedback from others will give you a sense how honest the psychic really is.
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Exactly. I would rather know not to waste my energy on someone then to be painted a rosy garden with unicorn and rainbows. I don't know if they get how much damage it does to people.
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I had a few readers (on my first POI) tell me "don't give up" and the like, even though it was causing me intense emotional pain to be in that situation. That's what made me believe that things would change with him and get better, and they would, very temporarily. But it was always back to square one, eventually.
It's hard to let go when you are in love with someone. You really don't want to give up on that hope and the person..but sometimes, you have to.
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I had a few readers (on my first POI) tell me "don't give up" and the like, even though it was causing me intense emotional pain to be in that situation. That's what made me believe that things would change with him and get better, and they would, very temporarily. But it was always back to square one, eventually.
It's hard to let go when you are in love with someone. You really don't want to give up on that hope and the person..but sometimes, you have to.
Yes! Most of the readers I talked to in the beginning said things like don't give up...you'll be glad you waited for him...you won't really be happy with someone else. They encouraged me to keep hanging on. I listened because they had psychic ability so I thought they were right. I thought they were "seeing" it you know not just giving their opinion or giving me scripted BS.
One knew exactly what all of this was doing to me and was sending me messages and free minutes to be helpful but even then...she kept extending timelines saying he's still coming back, don't give up, give it more time. I mean she actually pleaded with me not to give up on him! She knew how much it was making me suffer to keep hearing those predictions...but she kept giving them to me anyway. Even a few years later when I contacted her one last time she still said he was coming back. By that time I realized she had some sort of mental problem if she was still telling me that.
I had that happen too..all Keen readers also. I think that's another reason why I hate Keen so much..not all readers told me that though, some actually told me to move ahead because it was causing me pain...but then it's like, well didn't you see it was going to cause me all this pain, why did you encourage me in the first place then?
I bet if I still called them today, about that guy, they would still tell me he's coming back LOL...
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I had a few readers (on my first POI) tell me "don't give up" and the like, even though it was causing me intense emotional pain to be in that situation. That's what made me believe that things would change with him and get better, and they would, very temporarily. But it was always back to square one, eventually.
It's hard to let go when you are in love with someone. You really don't want to give up on that hope and the person..but sometimes, you have to.
Yes! Most of the readers I talked to in the beginning said things like don't give up...you'll be glad you waited for him...you won't really be happy with someone else. They encouraged me to keep hanging on. I listened because they had psychic ability so I thought they were right. I thought they were "seeing" it you know not just giving their opinion or giving me scripted BS.
One knew exactly what all of this was doing to me and was sending me messages and free minutes to be helpful but even then...she kept extending timelines saying he's still coming back, don't give up, give it more time. I mean she actually pleaded with me not to give up on him! She knew how much it was making me suffer to keep hearing those predictions...but she kept giving them to me anyway. Even a few years later when I contacted her one last time she still said he was coming back. By that time I realized she had some sort of mental problem if she was still telling me that.
I had that happen too..all Keen readers also. I think that's another reason why I hate Keen so much..not all readers told me that though, some actually told me to move ahead because it was causing me pain...but then it's like, well didn't you see it was going to cause me all this pain, why did you encourage me in the first place then?
I bet if I still called them today, about that guy, they would still tell me he's coming back LOL...
Oh I'm sure some would still tell me he is coming back! Some would always say it may take a long time but it will still happen! They would say all my predictions happen eventually don't get so hung up on timing. And even the people here on this forum want to be like, don't judge the reader until you allow time for predictions to pass. How many years have to go by before it's okay to decide the psychic was wrong. Uh, my ex is older than me (not to mention, I'm too old myself to waste time on this crap anymore)...are we finally gonna have the big reconciliation when he's in a nursing home?? Some of them really believe you should wait around for that!
But yeah...it was all Keen readers who said these things. No one outside of Keen. Readers outside of Keen weren't really any better...BUT there is a certain culture on Keen where they say similar things. They encourage people to hang on, then they either flip the predictions and tell you to move on, or they insist it's still going to happen, you just have to be patient. (Again, how many years need to go by before you qualify as patient? Lol)
Absolutely! I still can't believe how much time and energy I put into that first guy. I still get sad when I think about it! My first POI was considerably older than me too...and safe to say, set in his ways. I'm sure he's the same to this day.
I can only hope he feels somewhat remorseful about how he treated me sometimes. I'm not perfect, but I really tried to be understanding with him....but it got to the point where I was feeling like a doormat.
Look at that poor woman who calls Faerylady and others on Keen..she's been hanging onto false hope with a married man for ten years! She puts it all the feedback, I just cannot believe at some point she hasn't questioned what these readers are telling her!
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I had a few readers (on my first POI) tell me "don't give up" and the like, even though it was causing me intense emotional pain to be in that situation. That's what made me believe that things would change with him and get better, and they would, very temporarily. But it was always back to square one, eventually.
It's hard to let go when you are in love with someone. You really don't want to give up on that hope and the person..but sometimes, you have to.
Yes! Most of the readers I talked to in the beginning said things like don't give up...you'll be glad you waited for him...you won't really be happy with someone else. They encouraged me to keep hanging on. I listened because they had psychic ability so I thought they were right. I thought they were "seeing" it you know not just giving their opinion or giving me scripted BS.
One knew exactly what all of this was doing to me and was sending me messages and free minutes to be helpful but even then...she kept extending timelines saying he's still coming back, don't give up, give it more time. I mean she actually pleaded with me not to give up on him! She knew how much it was making me suffer to keep hearing those predictions...but she kept giving them to me anyway. Even a few years later when I contacted her one last time she still said he was coming back. By that time I realized she had some sort of mental problem if she was still telling me that.
I had that happen too..all Keen readers also. I think that's another reason why I hate Keen so much..not all readers told me that though, some actually told me to move ahead because it was causing me pain...but then it's like, well didn't you see it was going to cause me all this pain, why did you encourage me in the first place then?
I bet if I still called them today, about that guy, they would still tell me he's coming back LOL...
Oh I'm sure some would still tell me he is coming back! Some would always say it may take a long time but it will still happen! They would say all my predictions happen eventually don't get so hung up on timing. And even the people here on this forum want to be like, don't judge the reader until you allow time for predictions to pass. How many years have to go by before it's okay to decide the psychic was wrong. Uh, my ex is older than me (not to mention, I'm too old myself to waste time on this crap anymore)...are we finally gonna have the big reconciliation when he's in a nursing home?? Some of them really believe you should wait around for that!
But yeah...it was all Keen readers who said these things. No one outside of Keen. Readers outside of Keen weren't really any better...BUT there is a certain culture on Keen where they say similar things. They encourage people to hang on, then they either flip the predictions and tell you to move on, or they insist it's still going to happen, you just have to be patient. (Again, how many years need to go by before you qualify as patient? Lol)
Absolutely! I still can't believe how much time and energy I put into that first guy. I still get sad when I think about it! My first POI was considerably older than me too...and safe to say, set in his ways. I'm sure he's the same to this day.
I can only hope he feels somewhat remorseful about how he treated me sometimes. I'm not perfect, but I really tried to be understanding with him....but it got to the point where I was feeling like a doormat.
Look at that poor woman who calls Faerylady and others on Keen..she's been hanging onto false hope with a married man for ten years! She puts it all the feedback, I just cannot believe at some point she hasn't questioned what these readers are telling her!
It's so sad to see that happening to people. I figured out the worst readers would always have someone like that in their feedback! If they wanted to be taken seriously as a psychic, you'd think they would stop taking calls from those poor souls. I mean it's clear in those cases they have no scruples about what they are doing.
I know my ex felt remorse for the way he treated me, even before we broke up - which gave me reason to hope that things would change - but his remorse never stopped him or changed anything. Very set in his ways! I tried really hard to be understanding, because he has a mental illness. If I could do it over again I'd walk away because his problems were way bigger than what I could handle. It's not that I didn't care about him but I overestimated what I could cope with (aka, I was severely codependent.) And I underestimated how bad his problems were, or how much he was hiding it from me, or how much he would attack me for addressing it.
I think some of these readers are codependent and they encourage people to wait and hang on and sacrifice their own happiness because that is how they live their own lives. It's what they know. And some really do have serious mental problems.
I'm sure you are right about this...and it's always easy to tell someone who is not "living through it" so to speak, to hold on to a devastating situation. They're not going through the daily heartache..And if they are, you would think they would tell others to move on. that's why I don't encourage anyone here to hang on for a person who is not giving you what you are giving them...there was a thread a few weeks ago about a girl whose POI told her he wants to date others or something, and I saw people telling her to hang on for her predictions. I'm sorry, but if someone is TELLING YOU they want someone else, or other options, you need to have some self respect and move on. I say this because of what I went through. And my first guy never said any of that to me, but he did indicate he didn't see long term with me...but never mentioned anyone else...but still! And I still hung in there, and I don't want to see others go through the same.
I remember i had a bitwine reader basically tell me, he wants to be with you but remember you have a say in this too! and I appreciated that so much because I sometimes forgot I had a say in my own love life lol!
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It is sad, but everyone has their own lessons to learn...I know I read here for a long time before I became a member and I remember thinking "oh that won't happen to me" (like Baypark said in a previous post she started), and yet, it did....
I'm not saying things never happen for people who call psychics but I know that the majority have disappointing experiences.
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I agree with this...go with what is actually happening and make decisions from that! Not what psychics said may happen in the future.
This to me is the biggest take away from these posts. The person in these situations, don't they want to leave the S.O instead of hanging on to mistreatment? Even if the reader said they were going to change, wouldn't you want to be out of such a hurtful relationship, regardless of what the reader said? The reader should be shot to be honest. I have no clue as to what they saw, knowing the other party was in a living hell, and continuing to tell them the guy is going to change and the wait worth it. I can't even fathom this at all.
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It is sad, but everyone has their own lessons to learn...I know I read here for a long time before I became a member and I remember thinking "oh that won't happen to me" (like Baypark said in a previous post she started), and yet, it did....
I'm not saying things never happen for people who call psychics but I know that the majority have disappointing experiences.
Yes...well I was afraid all along it would happen to me, but I still hoped it would turn out well in the end. The longer it went on, the more I had invested so I didn't want to give up. It's like a rolling snowball of hope that just gets bigger and bigger until it knocks you down.
And it really and truly is the majority here who have been disappointed. If you've been around on this forum awhile and read through the older posts, there's no doubt of that. Some want to believe there are others out there who had their predictions come to pass and just didn't come back to tell about it. But the evidence of failed predictions is right here. Why ignore what you can SEE and hope something else is true? But that's the same mechanism that drives people to get readings to begin with.
I know things do happen for people...I mean I used to look for that because it gave me hope things would finally happen for me too. Every time I saw a story about predictions coming true it raised my hopes again. It only made it harder to accept that my situation was not going to work out that way. I also saw that some of those same people, came back later and said their situation didn't work out after all, or things changed, so the predictions still didn't come true in the end. So I learned to distance myself and be neutral when I read about predictions coming true.
OMG great way to put it!
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It's sad realization but yes, most of online psychics are either frauds or do have some kind of gift but they really can't predict the future. When I was asking about my then ex the vast majority would tell me he would contact me--months and years passed and I was holding into the hopes that these "psychics" gave me. However, I'm grateful that a small minority told me the truth and told me to give up waiting as I'm messing myself and my future relationships. Nearly 3 years of failed predictions and timelines pushed again and again but it was a huge wake-up call for me. I almost felt like giving up getting and giving readings altogether and lost my faith for some period of time but something pulled me back in.
Anyway, if you have decided to give up on psychics, that's the best thing to do. You may never find the "one" that does connect with you and gives you the truth of the situation. However, if you have tried only platform readers e.g Bitwine, Purple ocean, Fiverr, etc try individual and reputable readers very very occasionally. Don't waste any more your cash on meaningless, scripted and sugarcoated readers. You will drive yourself nuts--I'm talking from personal experience.
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It's sad realization but yes, most of online psychics are either frauds or do have some kind of gift but they really can't predict the future. When I was asking about my then ex the vast majority would tell me he would contact me--months and years passed and I was holding into the hopes that these "psychics" gave me. However, I'm grateful that a small minority told me the truth and told me to give up waiting as I'm messing myself and my future relationships. Nearly 3 years of failed predictions and timelines pushed again and again but it was a huge wake-up call for me. I almost felt like giving up getting and giving readings altogether and lost my faith for some period of time but something pulled me back in.
Anyway, if you have decided to give up on psychics, that's the best thing to do. You may never find the "one" that does connect with you and gives you the truth of the situation. However, if you have tried only platform readers e.g Bitwine, Purple ocean, Fiverr, etc try individual and reputable readers very very occasionally. Don't waste any more your cash on meaningless, scripted and sugarcoated readers. You will drive yourself nuts--I'm talking from personal experience.
At least a minority told you the truth and told you not to wait. That's so sad and cruel about the ones that led you on. I agree with what you said about predicting the future, minus some exceptions. Gisele from CP even told me she cant predict the future because its not set in stone and we create it every day. At least she was honest about that and wont lead someone on.
I really appreciate all these posts on this thread. There is some great advice and support for those going through similar experiences. And I agree with you guys, Still Tired, sawthelight and Ninancy - very well said. Very true statements, and what I feel too.
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Even the minority ones who told you the truth , could statistically have been just lucky guesses. I have gotten far better advice just talking to my friends, family , and complete strangers when I do rideshares lol
I am working overtime after my full-time job to make up for rent because I had unwittingly used some of my rent money for psychic readings during a binge. I couldnt stop it and said i would make up the money later and it would be okay as I frantically wanted to hear something good or some reassurance. My hands shook before after and during a reading and as I saw myself spending more money I cried in hopelessness because I COULD NOT stop. It was BAD. omg....
The only thing that was right for me were my tarot cards and I threw them away last month because the answers kept messing with my head. If I ever do use tarot again, it will be for non emotional stuff like career or travel.
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Wow tired that facade site is amazing accurate! Thanks for the recommendation!
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Wow tired that facade site is amazing accurate! Thanks for the recommendation!
You're welcome! I know it is really spooky how accurate it is sometimes! I like the stichomancy feature too.
Yes...I’m still in shock how accurate it was about the situation I had in mind...I’ve tried a few of those free sites before with disappointing results, but this is super cool. And the best part... free :D
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I tried it but it doesn't seem to actually answer my question. Ugh
Decided to do the Celtic cross for my reading and regardless the outcome rocks! Lmao
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I don't agree every psychic is fake. I have had some advisors save my life and really help me. Be worried about that psychics that want to charge you for spells and candles. They are the ones I think are fake!
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It has been a while since I had a reading and I finally got the opportunity to try Mrs.Jones.
We got 7 minutes into the read. It consisted of her telling me she needed to focus. I recieved one last message, "I need to focus."
Then bam...she blocked me and went offline.
At the beginning of the read, she assumed I was inquiring about an ex. I wasn't at all. I asked her about the future and accepted that the ex was gone.
I cannot believe I was blocked after "focusing." Christ did I get my answer about this psychic or did she pick up on something she did not want to tell in the future. Your guess is as good as mine.
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She picked up that she wasn't going to be able to string you along.
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well whomever told me March was wrong... Aries Moon, Tarot Manhattan, Hannah, :(
now we're onto April.
I have been having readings done for two and a half years. So much money wasted I will never get back. And so far the only ones right are the negative readers who saw no contact, no reconciliation, etc.
all the positive ones predicted contact, relationship, marriage, children, communication, dancing, unblocking, and it feels like it will never happen :-[
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well whomever told me March was wrong... Aries Moon, Tarot Manhattan, Hannah, :(
now we're onto April.
I have been having readings done for two and a half years. So much money wasted I will never get back. And so far the only ones right are the negative readers who saw no contact, no reconciliation, etc.
all the positive ones predicted contact, relationship, marriage, children, communication, dancing, unblocking, and it feels like it will never happen :-[
Hope it gets better for you! I’ve been exactly where u have been.
Seems like you read a lot with bitwine....never tried that site but it seems most of those readers are terrible based on reviews here....
Not to encourage you to call more, but i found once i found the right readers for me...things happened...positive and negative but at least they were right
Saw that you read with Yona...hopefully she works for you
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Most of the time peoples are in denial and they know the relationship over instead of seeking therapy, they seek out psychics and they tell us exactly what we wanted to hear for temporary relief. The reviews on keen or any other psychics site speak for it self.
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Most of the time peoples are in denial and they know the relationship over instead of seeking therapy, they seek out psychics and they tell us exactly what we wanted to hear for temporary relief. The reviews on keen or any other psychics site speak for it self.
Several issues here, one is believing our lives are decided for us unchangeable. So regardless WHAT we or another says or does the SAME result will happen. Doesn't make sense. A Psychic may well see a potential path but we or another person involved can alter that path. Consequence exists. Another issue is many call Psychics dependent on hearing what they want to hear. Not really open to realities or responsibility or choices. Another issue is, Bashers are live and we'll thriving on sites like Keen especially. Psychics are at the mercy of this and risk a low rating from an angry caller not hearing what they wanted to. Positive news gives positive feedback & returning clients. Many just call Psychics to ease anxiety. Not actually to heal or face truths.
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Btw I would like to add that this supposed SOULMATE thing has destroyed many of us and tricked us into waiting for a person that is generally not good for us--at all. I have waited nearly 3 years for my borderline and horribly immature ex to come back because I thought he was a soulmate or some sort of karmic mate, and many psychics told me so. If you ask 10 psychics about someone, more than half will pull out the soulmate line. It took me quite a while to think as a logical human being and abandon this delusion that he is my destined soulmate and that he will contact and things will get better for us. Actually, I'm now grateful he hasn't contacted me as that would be disastrous.
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Btw I would like to add that this supposed SOULMATE thing has destroyed many of us and tricked us into waiting for a person that is generally not good for us--at all. I have waited nearly 3 years for my borderline and horribly immature ex to come back because I thought he was a soulmate or some sort of karmic mate, and many psychics told me so. If you ask 10 psychics about someone, more than half will pull out the soulmate line. It took me quite a while to think as a logical human being and abandon this delusion that he is my destined soulmate and that he will contact and things will get better for us. Actually, I'm now grateful he hasn't contacted me as that would be disastrous.
Question, do you happen to know what a soulmate is?
While I agree some readers throw the line around...soulmates do have a meaning in your life...
He may have been a soulmate....soulmates don’t necessarily mean we end up with them in marriage or a relationship....it’s about the lesson we learn from that person
While the soulmate is supposed to help and support us....a karmic soulmate teaches us a lesson that we had to learn in this life...I’ve experienced both...usually there is some strong draw to this person.
I think we trick ourselves for believing that soulmates should be the ones we end up with (it would be nice but not common)...and shame on some readers for playing on that ideology....but in the end we are to blame for holding on...not the readers...(in my opinion)
https://foreverconscious.com/the-difference-between-soulmates-and-life-partners
https://thoughtcatalog.com/kirsten-corley/2018/01/this-is-what-a-soulmate-really-is-because-they-arent-just-the-people-we-date/
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There is a reason why they have to say these readings are for 'entertainment purposes only'... though, believe me, I have gone through MANY psychic readings (especially when vulnerable) that either sent me spiraling into depression or clinging on to shreds of hope.
And you know what? At the end of the day your own intuition is your best guide.
Yes, things can get really confusing and overwhelming and difficult to navigate but at my worst, I was just asking a bunch of strangers for advice and picking apart every single detail, contradiction, and prediction.
I think it is important, as time goes on, to make a pact with yourself (when you are ready) to only get a reading if you're going to use it more as fuel for thought rather than an accurate map of what is to come. Not only does it stop you from dwelling on the minutiae, but I feel that if there is something to this whole psychic thing, you gotta just live your own life, go with the flow and see what happens. If someone is right, great! But worrying about it constantly serves no one.
Easier said than done, I know! But imho if we all remain fixated on outcomes we are going to miss the here and now completely, and which makes it harder to embrace moments of growth along the way.
If we are not entertained by these psychics and instead depend on them for our happiness, paralyzing ourselves into a state of inaction unless we seek their 'wise' council, then we are not using them for guidance. We are asking them to make life decisions on our behalf, robbing ourselves of self-sovereignty and accountability.
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Btw I would like to add that this supposed SOULMATE thing has destroyed many of us and tricked us into waiting for a person that is generally not good for us--at all. I have waited nearly 3 years for my borderline and horribly immature ex to come back because I thought he was a soulmate or some sort of karmic mate, and many psychics told me so. If you ask 10 psychics about someone, more than half will pull out the soulmate line. It took me quite a while to think as a logical human being and abandon this delusion that he is my destined soulmate and that he will contact and things will get better for us. Actually, I'm now grateful he hasn't contacted me as that would be disastrous.
Question, do you happen to know what a soulmate is?
While I agree some readers throw the line around...soulmates do have a meaning in your life...
He may have been a soulmate....soulmates don’t necessarily mean we end up with them in marriage or a relationship....it’s about the lesson we learn from that person
While the soulmate is supposed to help and support us....a karmic soulmate teaches us a lesson that we had to learn in this life...I’ve experienced both...usually there is some strong draw to this person.
I think we trick ourselves for believing that soulmates should be the ones we end up with (it would be nice but not common)...and shame on some readers for playing on that ideology....but in the end we are to blame for holding on...not the readers...(in my opinion)
https://foreverconscious.com/the-difference-between-soulmates-and-life-partners
https://thoughtcatalog.com/kirsten-corley/2018/01/this-is-what-a-soulmate-really-is-because-they-arent-just-the-people-we-date/
Whether people trick themselves or not, the readers egg it on and are complicit with it. They know very well how most people are going to interpret it if they say someone is their soulmate. A lot of people are willing to go the extra mile waiting for someone or trying to work things out if they believe there is a special connection. It encourages people to hold on to hope or maybe even put up with cheating or abuse. If psychics want to bring up the idea of being soulmates then they need to be clear that it doesn't necessarily mean you end up together.
It’s not a reader’s job to sit and be a teacher and explain everything. It’s the person who is getting a reading to ask questions and then the reader can answer. Soulmates are dogs cats friends parents neighbors you hate. There’s plenty of information on the internet on what soulmates are and people should educate themselves and do some research and not be ignorant to the fact that soulmates only mean one thing and that thing only.
It's the psychic's job to be clear about the information they are giving and how it is relevant to the client's life. That's what they are paid for. Not every psychic uses the term soulmate in the same way. Some use it specifically to mean a romantic connection. Many times they have a specific way they use certain terminology. When you look those things up on the internet you might find all sorts of different explanations and definitions. What matters in the reading is how that psychic is using that term and what they mean by it.
When psychics talk about soulmates there's usually a certain context attached to it, like this is who you are meant to be with, you wouldn't be happy just dating others when you feel so strongly about this person. A lot of times they say those things explicitly. The word soulmate often ends up attached to the idea that this is someone worth waiting for, or toughing things out for. An ethical psychic would be careful about leading the client to think that way.
A person can believe they have many soulmates in life, and that not all are romantic, or that some are meant to be karmic lessons, etc. whatever, but still believe the soulmate they are in love with is a special kind of connection.
I agree with both Still Tired and Ladya - I believe the reader should be clear with the definition of soulmate if they should use it, but i also believe that the power of the Internet should be used for additional education to fully understand the term and its many forms (because i don’t want to spend minutes on them educating me on this lol)
In the end I think 1) Readers can lead us on and 2) the ownus is still truly on us and how we use that information... I know several people out there that have held on to an unhealthy connection just because the connection was soooo strong - without the assistance of readers! Some people want what they want - think about how many of us who do read maybe get negative readings about an outcome (regarding a romantic connection) yet STILL choose to hold on?
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There is a reason why they have to say these readings are for 'entertainment purposes only'... though, believe me, I have gone through MANY psychic readings (especially when vulnerable) that either sent me spiraling into depression or clinging on to shreds of hope.
And you know what? At the end of the day your own intuition is your best guide.
Yes, things can get really confusing and overwhelming and difficult to navigate but at my worst, I was just asking a bunch of strangers for advice and picking apart every single detail, contradiction, and prediction.
I think it is important, as time goes on, to make a pact with yourself (when you are ready) to only get a reading if you're going to use it more as fuel for thought rather than an accurate map of what is to come. Not only does it stop you from dwelling on the minutiae, but I feel that if there is something to this whole psychic thing, you gotta just live your own life, go with the flow and see what happens. If someone is right, great! But worrying about it constantly serves no one.
Easier said than done, I know! But imho if we all remain fixated on outcomes we are going to miss the here and now completely, and which makes it harder to embrace moments of growth along the way.
If we are not entertained by these psychics and instead depend on them for our happiness, paralyzing ourselves into a state of inaction unless we seek their 'wise' council, then we are not using them for guidance. We are asking them to make life decisions on our behalf, robbing ourselves of self-sovereignty and accountability.
AGREED 100%!! We definitely have to take some accountability - sometimes it seems people can play the victim or blame everything on readers which should not be the case. You are in charge of your life..not them
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There is a reason why they have to say these readings are for 'entertainment purposes only'... though, believe me, I have gone through MANY psychic readings (especially when vulnerable) that either sent me spiraling into depression or clinging on to shreds of hope.
And you know what? At the end of the day your own intuition is your best guide.
Yes, things can get really confusing and overwhelming and difficult to navigate but at my worst, I was just asking a bunch of strangers for advice and picking apart every single detail, contradiction, and prediction.
I think it is important, as time goes on, to make a pact with yourself (when you are ready) to only get a reading if you're going to use it more as fuel for thought rather than an accurate map of what is to come. Not only does it stop you from dwelling on the minutiae, but I feel that if there is something to this whole psychic thing, you gotta just live your own life, go with the flow and see what happens. If someone is right, great! But worrying about it constantly serves no one.
Easier said than done, I know! But imho if we all remain fixated on outcomes we are going to miss the here and now completely, and which makes it harder to embrace moments of growth along the way.
If we are not entertained by these psychics and instead depend on them for our happiness, paralyzing ourselves into a state of inaction unless we seek their 'wise' council, then we are not using them for guidance. We are asking them to make life decisions on our behalf, robbing ourselves of self-sovereignty and accountability.
AGREED 100%!! We definitely have to take some accountability - sometimes it seems people can play the victim or blame everything on readers which should not be the case. You are in charge of your life..not them
Yeah... it's easy to do when you think of the future as fixed.
But people are people, and people can be wrong. It super hurts when you get your hopes up because your psychic said something that you wanted to be true, but didn't come to pass. But what if nobody told you anything to begin with? Sometimes I think externalizing the blame is a way to justify whatever disappointment or negativity we are experiencing, instead of fully processing it.
When life deals you a bad hand, shuffle the deck! ;)
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I had a couple of readers tell me that my first guy was "karmic"..which actually makes a lot of sense looking back on it.
Of course, I also had many tell me he was my twin flame, and regular soulmate etc....at this point, I don't really pay too much attention to those terms anymore.
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I had a couple of readers tell me that my first guy was "karmic"..which actually makes a lot of sense looking back on it.
Of course, I also had many tell me he was my twin flame, and regular soulmate etc....at this point, I don't really pay too much attention to those terms anymore.
I had a street psychic many years ago tell me my emotionally abusive and manipulative ex was my twin flame.
Thankfully after crying on the train home I realized it didn't matter because I was never letting him in to wreak havoc on my life again.
Had she gotten her hooks in me earlier before the crap hit the fan, though, I may have been hooked. I really think some of these readers throw terms like this around so that you will become dependent on their guidance while you prolong what may already be an unhealthy situation.
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I had a couple of readers tell me that my first guy was "karmic"..which actually makes a lot of sense looking back on it.
Of course, I also had many tell me he was my twin flame, and regular soulmate etc....at this point, I don't really pay too much attention to those terms anymore.
I had a street psychic many years ago tell me my emotionally abusive and manipulative ex was my twin flame.
Thankfully after crying on the train home I realized it didn't matter because I was never letting him in to wreak havoc on my life again.
Had she gotten her hooks in me earlier before the crap hit the fan, though, I may have been hooked. I really think some of these readers throw terms like this around so that you will become dependent on their guidance while you prolong what may already be an unhealthy situation.
While I do agree readers can hook people with those key words - Soul Mate, Karmic Connection and Twin Flame - I dont think any of it is meant for us to "hold on".
Folks are uneducated about the terms unfortunately - and readers are not explaining their meaning...from what you said here and the description of Twin Flames below - you MAY have actually had a TWIN FLAME with your ex...but again not that it means anything ;)
If there is a reader that perhaps use the term truthfully (maybe a reader who is connected to information about chakras, or eastern philosophies) then what they are saying may be true - just DESCRIBING the overall TYPE of relationship. Either way when it comes down to it - NONE of the terms MEAN nothing regarding outcome. I think that is where people get lost....
Those terms "Soulmate/Twin Flame) basically describe the type of relationship it is...basically like describing the COLOR Of a CAR....not stating what the outcome of the relationship is - kind of like Astrology and Synastry - it can describe the relationship but not the outcome
Usually with a Twin Flame relationship it has traits of the following - which may have been something people have experienced with an ex or a connection they cant get rid of:
1. You are intensely drawn to them. Without any real cause or reason, you feel as though you’ve known this person before, even if you just met.
2. They have opened you up to a completely new way of thinking. With them, you exchange ideas, beliefs, religion, and so on. You’ve “awakened” because of their love.
3. They come in and out of your life. You’re together, and then you’re not, and then you are again. Despite the fact that you love each other more than anything, one of you (the “runner”) seems to not be able to handle it, and dissolve the relationship. It’s almost as though your connection is too intense for you to be consistently together.
4. They feel like home. Upon meeting them, you immediately sense that you’ve known this person before. Your connection is too intense for you to have just been strangers – there is a deep feeling of familiarity when you’re with them.
5. You are the epitome of yin and yang. They seem just like your other half, the parts of you that were missing all along. (What you’ve yet to realize is that they are the parts of you you’ve yet to know.)
6. Looking back, you see that the period of time right after you’re with them is always defined by change. They bring about a lot of intense transformation in your life, sometimes painfully so.
7. You will find yourself becoming almost irrationally emotional when you’re with them. (These are the feelings and energies that have been in suppression, which they are there in part to help you recognize and heal.)
8. Your bond is instantaneous, and your relationship moves very quickly. Right off the bat, you “click” as though you’ve known one another forever. This only grows over time, and the more you get to know about them, the more absolutely in love you are.
9. Though you experience incredible passion for this person, there is an equal amount of worry and uncertainty. You may find yourself questioning a lot, asking yourself whether or not this is really love, or really what you want for your life.
10. It seems like you have this profound connection that must be destined, but you come into one another’s life at the wrong time, or something else stands in the way of you being together. This is not a product of ill fate, rather, it is a sign that you’re not meant to be together in the way you think you should. (The right thing at the wrong time is the wrong thing.)
11. You are more than just lovers. You are one another’s teachers, best friends, therapists, and so on. You have such a deep and layered connection that you do a lot more for one another than just be romantic.
12. It seems like you’re always pulled back to them in one way or another.
13. Your relationship can be tumultuous at times. This is because your twin flame serves to show you everything that needs to be healed within you. This is not to be confused with “love” being painful. Love is not painful. Everything that stands in the way can be, though.
14. One of you is more “spiritual” than the other. One is more soulful, the other more practical. You teach one another the virtues of how you think and behave – that is part of your purpose.
15. You feel very attuned to them, almost telepathically. You can feel what they’re feeling, or know what they’re thinking. It’s as though you are one.
16. When you look into their eyes, you feel like you see family, or your own child. This is your soul recognizing someone it’s known before, or someone it’s very close to.
17. For as different as you are, you have many fundamental things in common. Maybe you were born on their favorite brother’s birthday, or you met on a very significant weekend. Maybe you both went to the same type of elementary and high school, or you had the same college major. One or two of these things could just be coincidence, but with a twin flame, you’ll probably have many overlapping similarities.
18. They show you what you most desire as well as what you most fear. Their purpose is not (and has never been) to make you feel “settled” or comfortable, but to help introduce you to yourself.
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I agree with both Still Tired and Ladya - I believe the reader should be clear with the definition of soulmate if they should use it, but i also believe that the power of the Internet should be used for additional education to fully understand the term and its many forms (because i don’t want to spend minutes on them educating me on this lol)
In the end I think 1) Readers can lead us on and 2) the ownus is still truly on us and how we use that information... I know several people out there that have held on to an unhealthy connection just because the connection was soooo strong - without the assistance of readers! Some people want what they want - think about how many of us who do read maybe get negative readings about an outcome (regarding a romantic connection) yet STILL choose to hold on?
Yep, it happens all the time that people hold on to bad relationships, without getting readings...and many people also believe in soulmates, or that someone is their soulmate, without ever being told that by a psychic.
That's why readers are able to make so much easy money off of it by egging it on and taking advantage of people who are looking for answers.
True it is sooooo sad
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I had a couple of readers tell me that my first guy was "karmic"..which actually makes a lot of sense looking back on it.
Of course, I also had many tell me he was my twin flame, and regular soulmate etc....at this point, I don't really pay too much attention to those terms anymore.
I had a street psychic many years ago tell me my emotionally abusive and manipulative ex was my twin flame.
Thankfully after crying on the train home I realized it didn't matter because I was never letting him in to wreak havoc on my life again.
Had she gotten her hooks in me earlier before the crap hit the fan, though, I may have been hooked. I really think some of these readers throw terms like this around so that you will become dependent on their guidance while you prolong what may already be an unhealthy situation.
While I do agree readers can hook people with those key words - Soul Mate, Karmic Connection and Twin Flame - I dont think any of it is meant for us to "hold on".
Folks are uneducated about the terms unfortunately - and readers are not explaining their meaning...from what you said here and the description of Twin Flames below - you MAY have actually had a TWIN FLAME with your ex...but again not that it means anything ;)
If there is a reader that perhaps use the term truthfully (maybe a reader who is connected to information about chakras, or eastern philosophies) then what they are saying may be true - just DESCRIBING the overall TYPE of relationship. Either way when it comes down to it - NONE of the terms MEAN nothing regarding outcome. I think that is where people get lost....
Those terms "Soulmate/Twin Flame) basically describe the type of relationship it is...basically like describing the COLOR Of a CAR....not stating what the outcome of the relationship is - kind of like Astrology and Synastry - it can describe the relationship but not the outcome
Usually with a Twin Flame relationship it has traits of the following - which may have been something people have experienced with an ex or a connection they cant get rid of:
1. .........
Sparkle002 I have looked into Twin Flames a lot, and all this information is super useful!
The thing is, I didn't even look into Twin Flames at the time; years later when I met my true DM is when it really blipped onto my radar.
Personally I think the Twin Flame journey manifests differently for different people and can include false twins, catalysts, and other slight differences to the 'rules' you posted. If anything, this man was perhaps a catalyst but is not someone I have any love for outside of the type of love I hold for all human beings. No personal attachment, no connection, no desire to have anything to do with him.
I think if you are meant to be with someone, regardless of the label, it will happen.
But as you said, a lot of readers will throw a term in and not explain it, making you feel like you have something special that you should cling tightly to.
The best guidance to know what kind of soul connection you have, if any, is to look within.
You can go crazy trying to define things by a set of guidelines. That's why I'm often wary of readers who are quick to throw terms like that out - unless I specifically asked, it shouldn't really matter.
I definitely agree that outcome is not always directly related to the type of connection you share with someone.
But not everyone knows that, which could lead to a lot of heartache. :(
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Both the exes I called about, knew we were soulmates and said so. The first one recognized it before I did. It never made me think we were meant to be together...in my view many soulmates come and go in life, and sometimes you are only meant to have a brief connection with them. What tripped me up with both of these guys was thinking of them as soulmates blinded me to their bad behavior and how incompatible we were. I don't think either of them ever meant to "use" it on me that way, but some of the psychics sure did! They would gloss it over and say, but you have a connection with this man that you won't have with anyone else. That was true! But doesn't mean I should tolerate being treated poorly. This was the big lesson for me, no matter how strongly I feel about someone or how many past lives I remember us having together, or what sorts of synastry we have in our charts, or how much we can read each other's minds or how many special synchronicites happen and blah blah blah wtf ever, does not mean I should tolerate any mistreatment. The first one pretty much literally told me that, admitted he was being horrible to me...he even said "I'm not giving you anything!" But I was absolutely hardheaded and had to go through the whole thing again, with the second ex, who ended up being so nasty that I wouldn't have cared if an angel came down from heaven and decreed, you are meant to be with this man he is your soulmate.
A lot of it too, with the psychics, is some would see what the problems were and say well you don't deserve that, never put up with that or settle for that kind of behavior. They would even say, you're not together because you are being protected from all of that. But the one really bad thing they would say on top of all of that was, HE WILL CHANGE. And because they are supposedly psychic, I held out hope that it would come true. Eventually I realized they just don't really know those things. It seems like they could be right, because they get other things right, but it's a LOT to risk time out of your life on hoping they will be right about someone changing.
Omg same thing happened to me SAME! And it’s a shame that readers do that so I can definitely understand how someone could be led on especially in a vulnerable state by saying he will change! Ugh...even without the soulmate stuff just saying that period is scary too...
I’ll say definitely live in reality and assess how that person is treating you NOW.
I’m not sure I’ve heard of many stories of a guy mistreating someone and changing for the better...maybe changing their mind and wanting to be with you, but not changing “mistreatment”
We also have to not allow mistreatment ourselves - it’s definitly easier said than done because I have been there and it was NOT FUN
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Both the exes I called about, knew we were soulmates and said so. The first one recognized it before I did. It never made me think we were meant to be together...in my view many soulmates come and go in life, and sometimes you are only meant to have a brief connection with them. What tripped me up with both of these guys was thinking of them as soulmates blinded me to their bad behavior and how incompatible we were. I don't think either of them ever meant to "use" it on me that way, but some of the psychics sure did! They would gloss it over and say, but you have a connection with this man that you won't have with anyone else. That was true! But doesn't mean I should tolerate being treated poorly. This was the big lesson for me, no matter how strongly I feel about someone or how many past lives I remember us having together, or what sorts of synastry we have in our charts, or how much we can read each other's minds or how many special synchronicites happen and blah blah blah wtf ever, does not mean I should tolerate any mistreatment. The first one pretty much literally told me that, admitted he was being horrible to me...he even said "I'm not giving you anything!" But I was absolutely hardheaded and had to go through the whole thing again, with the second ex, who ended up being so nasty that I wouldn't have cared if an angel came down from heaven and decreed, you are meant to be with this man he is your soulmate.
A lot of it too, with the psychics, is some would see what the problems were and say well you don't deserve that, never put up with that or settle for that kind of behavior. They would even say, you're not together because you are being protected from all of that. But the one really bad thing they would say on top of all of that was, HE WILL CHANGE. And because they are supposedly psychic, I held out hope that it would come true. Eventually I realized they just don't really know those things. It seems like they could be right, because they get other things right, but it's a LOT to risk time out of your life on hoping they will be right about someone changing.
Yeah and part of the problem is that if it comes from a psychic, they must be right because they are so gifted. I learned that the hard way as well. I was with some joe blow and knew...wait, no I felt that no matter what the psychic said, I was getting out of that shit. The reader was local and I would chat with her all the time and had been consulting with her for a very long time, but I felt she just wasn't good with relationship situations. She would paint a good story, one where it didn't even appear I was in it because things weren't as good as she saw. She never used any soulmate lingo with me, but I know I clearly would have been in that situation much longer had I listened to her.
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Seeker: I'm so sorry you went through all of that and have had to suffer such heart break. I read through the thread and I have seen you talk about how nasty this man had become after that woman entered his life and how he wouldn't be that way if it weren't for her. I disagree. What you are seeing is the real him and his capabilities of being a nasty person. You can't blame the other woman for him making a willful choice to be nasty to you. That's his choice and his fault, not hers. He is responsible for his own behavior, not her. It's like most of us typically blame "the other woman" for "steeling our man" when in reality, a man that doesn't want to be stolen can't be. It isn't the other woman's fault, rather, it's that man's lack of morals, values, integrity, respect, and love for us that causes him to do such things and behave is such ways. It also sounds to me like you are very much so dealing with a narcissist and perhaps even a bit of a sociopath. You may want to research those things. It's my personal opinion that you are being saved from a life of hell with a man that is no good. You may not see that now, but in time I think you will.
I will also say that I was told by many psychics in that my current ex was "the one" and that despite his disgustingly unhealthy need for attention from everyone who crossed his path which made him a cheater, and his pathological lying and extremely poor decision making capabilities, these psychics would say "He DOES love you and he DOES have feelings for you but he's just really selfish and has some life lessons to learn. He will change. He will learn". I held on for 5 long years despite the fact that I felt he was just using me to his advantage and wanted to keep me on the side forevermore because I was his security blanket. Finally, in the latest readings that I had, these psychics FINALLY said what I had already known for all these years..........they stopped telling me had all these feelings and genuine care for me and started saying he was just looking out for himself and what benefits him but wanted to keep me holding on for the just in case. Lol. I think psychics add to people's emotional turmoil and keep us holding onto things that we should have let go of long ago.......or better yet.......never even gotten involved after the first red flag. It seems to me that a lot of psychics make excuses for these other people's bad behaviors and so we are just suppose to sit and wait, hang onto it and put with it all and just "understand" that they have life lessons to learn. Ok great. They have lessons to learn but learn them without destroying my heart. Learn them without me in your life. That's how I feel about the whole thing. I'm not calling them anymore. They've just been a way of money for me even if they have been accurate but because life changes, people change etc.........the readings too will change. Nothing lasts forever. Everything in this life is temporary........including life itself.
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Thank you. His true colors did surface. I do not completely blame her entirely, anymore. But initially it is the first thing to think and psychics told me it was her manipulation.
He has freedom of choice, but yes, he has become extremely mean to the point it has becoming a bit angering on my side. Now his stories have changed, nothing he said or the way he acted happen now.
He has become really mean. I was misled by psychics for months that he loved me, etc. The same stock lines. This took me down an emotional path and one of confusion. I was told not to move on, as well. I have one person that still tells me, it is his ex.
I just wrote him off as an nasty man that entered my life and really did not care about me at all and only cared about himself. He has a poor attitude towards women as it is.
It has been a considerable amount of time since I had a reading.
I have finally been able to look at other men without guilt, developed a crush on a dental assistant with deep soft dark brown eyes that made me drop looking at him.
Because of what happen, I have fear talking to some men, or even asking one if they are single. I am so afraid what happen with this guy, will happen, again.
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There is a reason why they have to say these readings are for 'entertainment purposes only'... though, believe me, I have gone through MANY psychic readings (especially when vulnerable) that either sent me spiraling into depression or clinging on to shreds of hope.
And you know what? At the end of the day your own intuition is your best guide.
Yes, things can get really confusing and overwhelming and difficult to navigate but at my worst, I was just asking a bunch of strangers for advice and picking apart every single detail, contradiction, and prediction.
I think it is important, as time goes on, to make a pact with yourself (when you are ready) to only get a reading if you're going to use it more as fuel for thought rather than an accurate map of what is to come. Not only does it stop you from dwelling on the minutiae, but I feel that if there is something to this whole psychic thing, you gotta just live your own life, go with the flow and see what happens. If someone is right, great! But worrying about it constantly serves no one.
Easier said than done, I know! But imho if we all remain fixated on outcomes we are going to miss the here and now completely, and which makes it harder to embrace moments of growth along the way.
If we are not entertained by these psychics and instead depend on them for our happiness, paralyzing ourselves into a state of inaction unless we seek their 'wise' council, then we are not using them for guidance. We are asking them to make life decisions on our behalf, robbing ourselves of self-sovereignty and accountability.
AGREED 100%!! We definitely have to take some accountability - sometimes it seems people can play the victim or blame everything on readers which should not be the case. You are in charge of your life..not them
Agree also! This was a great post.
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It's my personal opinion that you are being saved from a life of hell with a man that is no good. You may not see that now, but in time I think you will.
That's how I came to see my situation, and it took a long time for me to see it that way but in the end I am just grateful it never worked out like any of the psychics predicted.
A couple of them tried to play it off like he wasn't really a mean person and he was just being manipulated by a relative to act the way he did. No, he is who he is and chooses to be that way all on his own. And besides if he never had the guts to stand up to his family, then what kind of relationship would that be anyway? But they said that would change too, he would stand up to them and assert himself more so we could be together. Nope, never happened.
It's just a a classic tool of the trade, when they say the guy is being manipulated by someone (always by a female.)
Yes!
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In the same boat. Just finding out he is just a manipulative person that has a spiteful nature. He tells a lot of lies then when called out on it, he runs and hides waiting for things to blow over or asks other people to handle things for him. He plays the nice guy routine in the beginning, but his true colors really show.
That is all I ever heard from him, "I am a nice guy, etc." Why not actually be nice to the female gender for once buddy to be proclaimed as a nice guy. Instead, I use to hear...about sleeping around...etc from his mouth.
All psychics tried to tell me it was because of someone else or his ex.
My ex has an issue with women in general. He thinks or was raised to believe he was entitled to things, etc.
He, also, would do gas lighting sometimes. The, oh...I never said... etc.
It's my personal opinion that you are being saved from a life of hell with a man that is no good. You may not see that now, but in time I think you will.
That's how I came to see my situation, and it took a long time for me to see it that way but in the end I am just grateful it never worked out like any of the psychics predicted.
A couple of them tried to play it off like he wasn't really a mean person and he was just being manipulated by a relative to act the way he did. No, he is who he is and chooses to be that way all on his own. And besides if he never had the guts to stand up to his family, then what kind of relationship would that be anyway? But they said that would change too, he would stand up to them and assert himself more so we could be together. Nope, never happened.
It's just a a classic tool of the trade, when they say the guy is being manipulated by someone (always by a female.)
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True. You would not have to say it. You will show it.
In the same boat. Just finding out he is just a manipulative person that has a spiteful nature. He tells a lot of lies then when called out on it, he runs and hides waiting for things to blow over or asks other people to handle things for him. He plays the nice guy routine in the beginning, but his true colors really show.
That is all I ever heard from him, "I am a nice guy, etc." Why not actually be nice to the female gender for once buddy to be proclaimed as a nice guy. Instead, I use to hear...about sleeping around...etc from his mouth.
All psychics tried to tell me it was because of someone else or his ex.
My ex has an issue with women in general. He thinks or was raised to believe he was entitled to things, etc.
He, also, would do gas lighting sometimes. The, oh...I never said... etc.
It's my personal opinion that you are being saved from a life of hell with a man that is no good. You may not see that now, but in time I think you will.
That's how I came to see my situation, and it took a long time for me to see it that way but in the end I am just grateful it never worked out like any of the psychics predicted.
A couple of them tried to play it off like he wasn't really a mean person and he was just being manipulated by a relative to act the way he did. No, he is who he is and chooses to be that way all on his own. And besides if he never had the guts to stand up to his family, then what kind of relationship would that be anyway? But they said that would change too, he would stand up to them and assert himself more so we could be together. Nope, never happened.
It's just a a classic tool of the trade, when they say the guy is being manipulated by someone (always by a female.)
Sorry you are going through that.
The guys who always say things like I'm a nice guy, I'm sensitive, I love women, etc. sometimes turn out to be the biggest misogynists. They aren't aware enough to see it in themselves.
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I'd say most telephone psychic readers are half baked with enough skill to get some simple stuff right, do not assume they are good with everything. As callers we need to be vigilant to be careful who you talk to and what you talk about. The sites are there to take your money and keep the scam alive for profit. . Its all possible because our society does not believe that many of these shallow reader people can get inside your head and so it is not regulated like physicians and psychologists. Its a giant gaposis that website operators all all too glad to use to fleece users, empty their wallets.
Feary Lady
Lisa Dianne
Triplemoongodess
are three I notice lately are aggregious leaches on the people who seek assistance and do get some info. These folks are simple. Do not ask questions about deep mattes of a simple reader They lack depth of character, so, do not ask them about deeper emotionally complex matters.
Callers need to very very careful for their own good. When shallow readers are way over their heads they don't even know it. They operate from lizard brain, survival instinct, ie its automatic reflexively grab the next meal, like a lizard. And it does not take much to get over the head of these telephone readers in so many cases..
It is impertive callers need to be very careful.
This site is great because Keen and the rest of the sites are not lookin our for you. Quite the opposite.
Rocket, are any other sites as well as psychic mobile apps we should be aware about?
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Rocket, are any other sites as well as psychic mobile apps we should be aware about?
I do not have experience with multiple sites. No need, they are all the same, full of people who need money.
That sicko Bob Olsen is a huge scammer. His site excludes all negativereview and he presents himself as "the solution" to the phone psychic scam. Anybody who knows his business address please post it on this site.
With all of the sites you must be highly vigilant. You know how it is, any low life with a computer can sign up and call themselves psychic.
The really dangerous ones are the ones with enough perception to sound convincing. Because they can indeed seem to know some things, do not assume they are good people or they are competent with all topics. But when a question pertains to your mental and emotional well being use extreme caution. Nobody is looking out for you but you except that rare reader who has skill and is not driven by need for money but by humanitarian high values. With most, survival instinct induces the lizard to snap up that fly automatically..
If you know of a reader who truly does not need the money that is a good start.
This is of course not to say all the phone readers are trash. It is insideous and seemless, ie the transition from picking up some minor insignificant things correctly to incompetence regarding deeper questions. A reader with shallow character is not competent to read a situation of a person with deeper character. Period
The example: Triplemoongodess on Keen. I gather this lady has spent 25+ years on the phone with breaks to take a walk. By now she takes her own perceptions very very seriously indeed. After all she make good money at it, what lizard would not? I spoke to her a few times about me a 70 year old guy who met a 24 year old woman with whom there was exquisite compatability, it did not take long before she was rightously pissed off and she was totally unaware of the way her emotional issue with this poisoned the reading. She was pissed and not unaware of that fact, I called her on it and of course she blocked me. Its inconvenient for them when the dark truth is spoken.
The travesty of Keen is they do not allow authentic feedback that throws shade which emerges as truth. If anyone has lawyer skills, lets take these sick freaks to task. Then great psychic readers can be given the just due they deserve and benfit society and since they can become properaly legitimized instead of regarded as a dog and pony show.
This information comes to readers thru emotional channels, so to be a clear readers they need to be emotionally flat level undisturbed, especially about the topic being read, to get a clear view.
[/quote] Rocket, Keen will not alter feedback even if you use the kinds of language you are using such as 'sicko' 'freak' etc. Keen allows this and allows their advisors to be bashed and insulted in this way. I dont know what other site allows that, I dont think Bitwine or Kasamba or California Psychics allows such insults in feedback but I assure you Keen does. Any basher here well knows.
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Keen is a sick sick scam. They deny authentic feedback about trashy destructive half skilled psychics by limiting the time frame to submit feedback. Since most readings are about the ubiquitous POI, and almost all the important long range matters of interest extend way beyond the two week limit on submitting feedback, they perpetuate the travesty and scam the the telephone reader shit show has become. Very destructive to the lives of gullible folks who buy into it. And , keeps the potentially tremendous benefits authentic quality readers could bring to humanity from ever doing so. They reamain a big joke, an dog and pony show rather than an excellent resource for humanity.
Others are even worse than Keen.
Some of the angry pathetic folks on this site who freak out are real sickos.
Pot, meet kettle. 🤣
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Keen is a sick sick scam. They deny authentic feedback about trashy destructive half skilled psychics by limiting the time frame to submit feedback. Since most readings are about the ubiquitous POI, and almost all the important long range matters of interest extend way beyond the two week limit on submitting feedback, they perpetuate the travesty and scam the the telephone reader shit show has become. Very destructive to the lives of gullible folks who buy into it. And , keeps the potentially tremendous benefits authentic quality readers could bring to humanity from ever doing so. They reamain a big joke, an dog and pony show rather than an excellent resource for humanity.
Others are even worse than Keen.
Some of the angry pathetic folks on this site who freak out are real sickos.
Pot, meet kettle. 🤣
He’s missing out on a nap and some Ensure so he can argue about psychics...
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Rocket, are any other sites as well as psychic mobile apps we should be aware about?
I do not have experience with multiple sites. No need, they are all the same, full of people who need money.
That sicko Bob Olsen is a huge scammer. His site excludes all negativereview and he presents himself as "the solution" to the phone psychic scam. Anybody who knows his business address please post it on this site.
With all of the sites you must be highly vigilant. You know how it is, any low life with a computer can sign up and call themselves psychic.
The really dangerous ones are the ones with enough perception to sound convincing. Because they can indeed seem to know some things, do not assume they are good people or they are competent with all topics. But when a question pertains to your mental and emotional well being use extreme caution. Nobody is looking out for you but you except that rare reader who has skill and is not driven by need for money but by humanitarian high values. With most, survival instinct induces the lizard to snap up that fly automatically..
If you know of a reader who truly does not need the money that is a good start.
This is of course not to say all the phone readers are trash. It is insideous and seemless, ie the transition from picking up some minor insignificant things correctly to incompetence regarding deeper questions. A reader with shallow character is not competent to read a situation of a person with deeper character. Period
The example: Triplemoongodess on Keen. I gather this lady has spent 25+ years on the phone with breaks to take a walk. By now she takes her own perceptions very very seriously indeed. After all she make good money at it, what lizard would not? I spoke to her a few times about me a 70 year old guy who met a 24 year old woman with whom there was exquisite compatability, it did not take long before she was rightously pissed off and she was totally unaware of the way her emotional issue with this poisoned the reading. She was pissed and not unaware of that fact, I called her on it and of course she blocked me. Its inconvenient for them when the dark truth is spoken.
The travesty of Keen is they do not allow authentic feedback that throws shade which emerges as truth. If anyone has lawyer skills, lets take these sick freaks to task. Then great psychic readers can be given the just due they deserve and benfit society and since they can become properaly legitimized instead of regarded as a dog and pony show.
This information comes to readers thru emotional channels, so to be a clear readers they need to be emotionally flat level undisturbed, especially about the topic being read, to get a clear view.
Rocket, Keen will not alter feedback even if you use the kinds of language you are using such as 'sicko' 'freak' etc. Keen allows this and allows their advisors to be bashed and insulted in this way. I dont know what other site allows that, I dont think Bitwine or Kasamba or California Psychics allows such insults in feedback but I assure you Keen does. Any basher here well knows.
My thoughts: Something to keep in mind is that every "reader" has and will always have their own perceptions, and even interpretations. Different tarot readers will interpret any tarot card completely different and that is due to their own perceptions of said card and their own intuitive "insights" if they are indeed using any intuition at all. Clairvoyants may receive symbols and will interpret them based upon their own understanding but it could be completely off and not what that symbol was really meant to convey in the spiritual realm, hence, they will be wrong in the reading. Remote viewers, same thing. They may see an image or description of a location in France, but really it's a place in North Carolina that looks very similar, so they too will be off because they new nothing about this location in France so it was all due to their own knowledge and perception.
Then throw in the fact that each human has their bias', their personal preferences, likes/dislikes, morals, values, principles, standards of living etc. All of those things will effect a reader and in turn, a reading, and in turn, an outcome, if there really is such a thing as an outcome seeing as how the only constant thing is change. So, while a predicted "outcome" may be that two people connect, that really isn't the "outcome" because in time, that too will most likely change and they could then "disconnect".
Honestly, after all my experiences with readings, I am now convinced they are only good for the here and now and within a very short stent of time like within 30 days. People would literally need to call every single month to get an "update" since everything is an energy and energy is constantly changing. Just my two cents.