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Title: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 04, 2019, 02:47:12 AM
Does any body have any manifestation links or videos that've worked for them? I'm new to the topic so even beginners work or exercises would be great, thanks!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: mystery123 on December 04, 2019, 03:30:40 AM
I personally have tried these two and they seemed good, came through one of the newsletters I had signed up for.. one is 15-minute manifestation, and the other one is 24 hour manifestation.. it was definitely not 24 hours for me, but both seemed to work and shift things for me. They came with 30 day return guarantee, so that was helpful to try..

15 minute manifestation - http://bit.ly/2OJw9wi

and

Manifest in 24 hours - http://bit.ly/2DF0E0e
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Imnotsure on December 04, 2019, 03:35:14 AM
Does any body have any manifestation links or videos that've worked for them? I'm new to the topic so even beginners work or exercises would be great, thanks!
There are multiple people on YouTube who talk about this with different techniques:
Illuminatingjoy, Veronica Isles, Agnes Vivarelli and Joseph Alai.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: mystery123 on December 04, 2019, 03:51:04 AM
From Youtube- I also like Leeor Alexandra, and of course, the book Ask and it's given breaks down Law of Attraction and Manifestation.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 04, 2019, 04:14:51 AM
Thanks for the recommendations, I'll take a look, law of attraction is something I don't know lots about but has been mentioned by a couple of readers I use/d
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 04, 2019, 09:09:32 AM
I've heard of Lanie Stevens and she has her own forum for manifesting and law of attraction up if I'm correct, Imma check out her YouTube channel also
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 04, 2019, 01:44:54 PM
Joseph alai hands down the best at dissecting Neville. I don’t watch anyone else anymore. If you want to learn how to manifest, watch him. You’ll become a manifesting machine. Illuminating joy is good too but she doesn’t post much. Neville is the real deal. Take it from me I’ve spent years obsessing over who’s right who’s wrong. What’s the right way to do it. There is no vibrational alignment, there is no pre requisite. People who say you have to align do this do that it’s all things spread around the loa community that isn’t based on fact. This only puts more limitations into people’s minds. No you don’t need to do yoga or meditate or become vegan.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: journalmuse on December 04, 2019, 02:28:10 PM
Joseph alai hands down the best at dissecting Neville. I don’t watch anyone else anymore. If you want to learn how to manifest, watch him. You’ll become a manifesting machine. Illuminating joy is good too but she doesn’t post much. Neville is the real deal. Take it from me I’ve spent years obsessing over who’s right who’s wrong. What’s the right way to do it. There is no vibrational alignment, there is no pre requisite. People who say you have to align do this do that it’s all things spread around the loa community that isn’t based on fact. This only puts more limitations into people’s minds. No you don’t need to do yoga or meditate or become vegan.

I'm still not quite sure I believe in LOA, though I have manifested some small things, however I got interested in trying to decipher Neville and started watching some of Joseph Alai's videos and it may be coincidental, but I followed some of the Neville techniques he explained in his videos and I have to say that an old stuck situation has finally started to move. Again, could be coincidence, but either way I'll take it.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: beachgal214 on December 04, 2019, 02:28:37 PM
I have been using Joseph Alai based on Ladya advice and love him.  I do also like Andrea Schulman.

I used Lanie Stevens for LOA for the POI but people on this board have begged the question - does it deepen the emotional chord on your end?  Meaning - do you feel more attached after doing the exercises?  I feel like it probably works on the person.  but I also do feel it strengthened my emotional attachment. Not saying its not worth it,. just anecdotal input.   

I found staying away from lanie worked better for me and working on manifesting a healthy love and relationship is a better choice for my mental health :)

I have been manifesting a lot lately!!! 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 04, 2019, 02:39:36 PM
Joseph alai hands down the best at dissecting Neville. I don’t watch anyone else anymore. If you want to learn how to manifest, watch him. You’ll become a manifesting machine. Illuminating joy is good too but she doesn’t post much. Neville is the real deal. Take it from me I’ve spent years obsessing over who’s right who’s wrong. What’s the right way to do it. There is no vibrational alignment, there is no pre requisite. People who say you have to align do this do that it’s all things spread around the loa community that isn’t based on fact. This only puts more limitations into people’s minds. No you don’t need to do yoga or meditate or become vegan.

Thanks ladya ... yeah, I generalized a lot!!!
Definitely Aaron doughty goes about that it as “aligning with the vibration of money”, and I am definitely getting other viewpoint of LOA mixed up and everyone I mentioned should be double checked.

Has anyone tried Joseph alai workshops?

i went through all of this myself so i speak from experience. i used to constantly do meditations and well the were fun it got exhausting and like work after a while. manifesting should be fun and easy. you just have to imagine once for something to show up and know the seed has been planted and thats it. just know there is no outside circumstances that matter and  ONLY YOU create. this was an idea i was on the fence about for years but its true from my experience. only we control our world and no-one has free will in our world but there's parallel versions of us so we might as well get what we want rather than putting our trust in something out there cause were still manifesting that and not getting what we want. just affirm that only you create and youll start seeing everything you want popping up and it makes you feel extremely secure when saying it too like you have control because you do!! i never did his workshops because i dont really need them so i cant say how they are but he gives all the info you need in his videos. if you need any faith or reassurance go through his comment section - its filled with people's testimonials. it really helps with building your own faith.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 04, 2019, 03:46:15 PM
Joseph alai hands down the best at dissecting Neville. I don’t watch anyone else anymore. If you want to learn how to manifest, watch him. You’ll become a manifesting machine. Illuminating joy is good too but she doesn’t post much. Neville is the real deal. Take it from me I’ve spent years obsessing over who’s right who’s wrong. What’s the right way to do it. There is no vibrational alignment, there is no pre requisite. People who say you have to align do this do that it’s all things spread around the loa community that isn’t based on fact. This only puts more limitations into people’s minds. No you don’t need to do yoga or meditate or become vegan.

Does this dude have his videos on ayou tube channel or blog?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on December 04, 2019, 04:31:55 PM
Does Joseph Alai talk about visualizations?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on December 04, 2019, 04:33:35 PM
i went through all of this myself so i speak from experience. i used to constantly do meditations and well the were fun it got exhausting and like work after a while. manifesting should be fun and easy. you just have to imagine once for something to show up and know the seed has been planted and thats it. just know there is no outside circumstances that matter and  ONLY YOU create. this was an idea i was on the fence about for years but its true from my experience. only we control our world and no-one has free will in our world but there's parallel versions of us so we might as well get what we want rather than putting our trust in something out there cause were still manifesting that and not getting what we want. just affirm that only you create and youll start seeing everything you want popping up and it makes you feel extremely secure when saying it too like you have control because you do!! i never did his workshops because i dont really need them so i cant say how they are but he gives all the info you need in his videos. if you need any faith or reassurance go through his comment section - its filled with people's testimonials. it really helps with building your own faith.
Is this fact or theory?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 04, 2019, 05:29:38 PM
Joseph alai hands down the best at dissecting Neville. I don’t watch anyone else anymore. If you want to learn how to manifest, watch him. You’ll become a manifesting machine. Illuminating joy is good too but she doesn’t post much. Neville is the real deal. Take it from me I’ve spent years obsessing over who’s right who’s wrong. What’s the right way to do it. There is no vibrational alignment, there is no pre requisite. People who say you have to align do this do that it’s all things spread around the loa community that isn’t based on fact. This only puts more limitations into people’s minds. No you don’t need to do yoga or meditate or become vegan.

Does this dude have his videos on ayou tube channel or blog?

youtube. he has a site too i think.
here's his youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA3altnjT0eFZ65kuReqvJw
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 04, 2019, 05:31:21 PM
Does Joseph Alai talk about visualizations?

yes he does. that was neville goddard's main way of creating things. he talks about step by step how to do them
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: journalmuse on December 04, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
i went through all of this myself so i speak from experience. i used to constantly do meditations and well the were fun it got exhausting and like work after a while. manifesting should be fun and easy. you just have to imagine once for something to show up and know the seed has been planted and thats it. just know there is no outside circumstances that matter and  ONLY YOU create. this was an idea i was on the fence about for years but its true from my experience. only we control our world and no-one has free will in our world but there's parallel versions of us so we might as well get what we want rather than putting our trust in something out there cause were still manifesting that and not getting what we want. just affirm that only you create and youll start seeing everything you want popping up and it makes you feel extremely secure when saying it too like you have control because you do!! i never did his workshops because i dont really need them so i cant say how they are but he gives all the info you need in his videos. if you need any faith or reassurance go through his comment section - its filled with people's testimonials. it really helps with building your own faith.
Is this fact or theory?

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Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 04, 2019, 06:34:38 PM
i went through all of this myself so i speak from experience. i used to constantly do meditations and well the were fun it got exhausting and like work after a while. manifesting should be fun and easy. you just have to imagine once for something to show up and know the seed has been planted and thats it. just know there is no outside circumstances that matter and  ONLY YOU create. this was an idea i was on the fence about for years but its true from my experience. only we control our world and no-one has free will in our world but there's parallel versions of us so we might as well get what we want rather than putting our trust in something out there cause were still manifesting that and not getting what we want. just affirm that only you create and youll start seeing everything you want popping up and it makes you feel extremely secure when saying it too like you have control because you do!! i never did his workshops because i dont really need them so i cant say how they are but he gives all the info you need in his videos. if you need any faith or reassurance go through his comment section - its filled with people's testimonials. it really helps with building your own faith.
Is this fact or theory?

stirring-pot-emoji

i didn't answer this post because im not here to convince anyone. in response to the parallel versions - no its not 100% fact but as of now its the only logical explanation i have found that makes sense. im still trying to figure that one out how we all intersect yet we can all get what we want but from my research in both science and mystical stuff its what makes the most sense to me. i have a science background so i research everything to death lol. i was simply replying to OP because they were interested and giving encouragement to everyone else. I only speak from personal experience so what I say Ive experienced myself and have years and years and testing and proof. I respect what everyone else believes and everyone has their own journey but to those interested in manifestation that yes dreams, miracles are real and happen everyday. you can have ANYTHING YOU DESIRE. i have thousands upon thousands of things ive manifested if anyone who is interested im always willing to help and share things ive recreated in my life, relationships, and everything else in between. as neville says dare to believe in the reality of your assumption and watch the world play its part relative to the its fulfillment <3
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 04, 2019, 06:54:30 PM
you are on it ladya!!!

Yes I’ve been hooked on watching too many videos, and meditations, at first, they’re great distraction from calling psychics. But it is a lot of work! And time! Plus I confuse ideologies... so yup, I could be experiencing LOA burn out!

Oh my goodness thanks for recommending illuminating joy! I’m facing resistance and clicked “dealing with resistance when manifesting” and it’s helping me! I think I’m having an “a-ha” moment! Thanks so much everyone that mentioned her!!! 😊

Yay💕
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Imnotsure on December 05, 2019, 12:08:34 AM
you are on it ladya!!!

Yes I’ve been hooked on watching too many videos, and meditations, at first, they’re great distraction from calling psychics. But it is a lot of work! And time! Plus I confuse ideologies... so yup, I could be experiencing LOA burn out!

Oh my goodness thanks for recommending illuminating joy! I’m facing resistance and clicked “dealing with resistance when manifesting” and it’s helping me! I think I’m having an “a-ha” moment! Thanks so much everyone that mentioned her!!! 😊
I like that video too. She did a segment with Joseph alai as well.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 05, 2019, 01:35:33 AM
Joseph alai hands down the best at dissecting Neville. I don’t watch anyone else anymore. If you want to learn how to manifest, watch him. You’ll become a manifesting machine. Illuminating joy is good too but she doesn’t post much. Neville is the real deal. Take it from me I’ve spent years obsessing over who’s right who’s wrong. What’s the right way to do it. There is no vibrational alignment, there is no pre requisite. People who say you have to align do this do that it’s all things spread around the loa community that isn’t based on fact. This only puts more limitations into people’s minds. No you don’t need to do yoga or meditate or become vegan.

Does this dude have his videos on ayou tube channel or blog?

youtube. he has a site too i think.
here's his youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA3altnjT0eFZ65kuReqvJw

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. The way you've explained things on this thread has helped a bunch already, I'm gunna do some more looking in to this, if theres any other helpful links please private message me!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 06, 2019, 01:56:25 AM
Are there any good visual exercises to try, doing meditation or even in calm quiet situations that've worked for people? even if its imagining company with your significant other or doing activities with them you used to
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: journalmuse on December 06, 2019, 05:17:15 PM
Are there any good visual exercises to try, doing meditation or even in calm quiet situations that've worked for people? even if its imagining company with your significant other or doing activities with them you used to

Some people script out scenes they'd like to imagine - meaning, sit down with a piece of paper and a pen and write out the scene, what you say or do, etc. And then some people take the extra step of reading it out loud and recording themselves, then playing it back when they want to visualize.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 06, 2019, 06:15:57 PM
Are there any good visual exercises to try, doing meditation or even in calm quiet situations that've worked for people? even if its imagining company with your significant other or doing activities with them you used to

Some people script out scenes they'd like to imagine - meaning, sit down with a piece of paper and a pen and write out the scene, what you say or do, etc. And then some people take the extra step of reading it out loud and recording themselves, then playing it back when they want to visualize.

this is a good technique.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 08, 2019, 07:18:27 PM
Some one sent me Alais you tube page, I love this dude's energy and uplifting vids, I'd recomend him
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 08, 2019, 07:25:11 PM
Some one sent me Alais you tube page, I love this dude's energy and uplifting vids, I'd recomend him

yep hes great and exceptionally thorough.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 08, 2019, 10:20:23 PM
i just recently found this guys channel but i REALLY like him as well

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96Ek-bKKFbRESy8JYvlq-A
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: beachgal214 on December 09, 2019, 02:18:41 PM
I love manifesting from the pure sense that it gives me a feeling of CONTROL!  I am grateful for that! Thank you for sharing this stuff.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Kate on December 15, 2019, 09:49:38 AM

A morning technique: write out 10-15 random things you like to see in your day. Just randomly, try to spend as less than 5 min a day every morning, very first thing you do.
1. I have free slice of pizza
2. I have someone say they had a dream about me
3. I have received a call from an ex
4. A hug from a relative

Without even thinking just write it out quickly.

The point of this technique is to build your manifestation muscles. Seeing both small and big manifestation are possible in what feels impossible.

... to be honest, i’m scared of this technique... some things end up happening the next day, or two, yes that was fun. Watching them get crossed off is a delightful pleasant surprise. But ...after doing this on the third day (and can remember)  I sincerely felt like “who is asking of this? Is this the me that really wants this, or ego? Will manifesting this bring me spiritual fulfillment? Are these thoughts mine or someone else? Who am I being guided by?” ... and this freaks me out, I may try it again though? (I’ve also been watching YouTube videos on new age to Christian) also I just started this technique... so I’m very new to this practice technique. I do think doing this will grow and work out your manifestation muscle.

Has anyone else done this technique? For a longer consistent time? Did anyone else get freaked doing this? Or am I odd ball with one? ...regardless, it could be empowering, if that’s what calls you

Nice, I like it.
I have done similar things previously.. about 2 years ago.. I wrote out a lot of things I wanted, and after time, things started to manifest.. that hardest part, is keeping going when a challenge comes along to test your beliefs.. Regardless, I may just give this a go now..
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 15, 2019, 01:36:06 PM

A morning technique: write out 10-15 random things you like to see in your day. Just randomly, try to spend as less than 5 min a day every morning, very first thing you do.
1. I have free slice of pizza
2. I have someone say they had a dream about me
3. I have received a call from an ex
4. A hug from a relative

Without even thinking just write it out quickly.

The point of this technique is to build your manifestation muscles. Seeing both small and big manifestation are possible in what feels impossible.

... to be honest, i’m scared of this technique... some things end up happening the next day, or two, yes that was fun. Watching them get crossed off is a delightful pleasant surprise. But ...after doing this on the third day (and can remember)  I sincerely felt like “who is asking of this? Is this the me that really wants this, or ego? Will manifesting this bring me spiritual fulfillment? Are these thoughts mine or someone else? Who am I being guided by?” ... and this freaks me out, I may try it again though? (I’ve also been watching YouTube videos on new age to Christian) also I just started this technique... so I’m very new to this practice technique. I do think doing this will grow and work out your manifestation muscle.

Has anyone else done this technique? For a longer consistent time? Did anyone else get freaked doing this? Or am I odd ball with one? ...regardless, it could be empowering, if that’s what calls you

I do this all the time and have been doing it for quite a while. What’s wrong with having desires lol. That’s the whole point of life. Ego isn’t bad, it’s excess that’s too much. Why can’t you have spiritual fulfillment and all your desires too lol? They’re not mutually exclusive. Just intend for everything you desire to be in your highest alignment and there your problem is solved.  I don’t really understand why you’re scared. Only you can guide yourself, there’s no one else unless you allow other people to have power. You also manifest 24 hrs out of a day it’s not something you just turn off so might as well manifest consciously and get things you want rather than go on autopilot and manifest based on old beliefs. This technique also works on writing down who you want to be in the present or past tense terms. The universe doesn’t judge, it just wants you to make a decision and stick to it so it give you what you want in the fastest way.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Imnotsure on December 15, 2019, 06:33:19 PM

A morning technique: write out 10-15 random things you like to see in your day. Just randomly, try to spend as less than 5 min a day every morning, very first thing you do.
1. I have free slice of pizza
2. I have someone say they had a dream about me
3. I have received a call from an ex
4. A hug from a relative

Without even thinking just write it out quickly.

The point of this technique is to build your manifestation muscles. Seeing both small and big manifestation are possible in what feels impossible.

... to be honest, i’m scared of this technique... some things end up happening the next day, or two, yes that was fun. Watching them get crossed off is a delightful pleasant surprise. But ...after doing this on the third day (and can remember)  I sincerely felt like “who is asking of this? Is this the me that really wants this, or ego? Will manifesting this bring me spiritual fulfillment? Are these thoughts mine or someone else? Who am I being guided by?” ... and this freaks me out, I may try it again though? (I’ve also been watching YouTube videos on new age to Christian) also I just started this technique... so I’m very new to this practice technique. I do think doing this will grow and work out your manifestation muscle.

Has anyone else done this technique? For a longer consistent time? Did anyone else get freaked doing this? Or am I odd ball with one? ...regardless, it could be empowering, if that’s what calls you

I do this all the time and have been doing it for quite a while. What’s wrong with having desires lol. That’s the whole point of life. Ego isn’t bad, it’s excess that’s too much. Why can’t you have spiritual fulfillment and all your desires too lol? They’re not mutually exclusive. Just intend for everything you desire to be in your highest alignment and there your problem is solved.  I don’t really understand why you’re scared. Only you can guide yourself, there’s no one else unless you allow other people to have power. You also manifest 24 hrs out of a day it’s not something you just turn off so might as well manifest consciously and get things you want rather than go on autopilot and manifest based on old beliefs. This technique also works on writing down who you want to be in the present or past tense terms. The universe doesn’t judge, it just wants you to make a decision and stick to it so it give you what you want in the fastest way.

Agree with everything she has said!!!
Also Pinkamena, It all comes down to trusting yourself, and that may be hard right now. It took me a few months to rebuild my intuition, but once you do, it feels amazing because at the end of the day I am the ONLY ONE who knows what’s best for me. The universe/ any higher power aligns with me, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 15, 2019, 06:35:47 PM

A morning technique: write out 10-15 random things you like to see in your day. Just randomly, try to spend as less than 5 min a day every morning, very first thing you do.
1. I have free slice of pizza
2. I have someone say they had a dream about me
3. I have received a call from an ex
4. A hug from a relative

Without even thinking just write it out quickly.

The point of this technique is to build your manifestation muscles. Seeing both small and big manifestation are possible in what feels impossible.

... to be honest, i’m scared of this technique... some things end up happening the next day, or two, yes that was fun. Watching them get crossed off is a delightful pleasant surprise. But ...after doing this on the third day (and can remember)  I sincerely felt like “who is asking of this? Is this the me that really wants this, or ego? Will manifesting this bring me spiritual fulfillment? Are these thoughts mine or someone else? Who am I being guided by?” ... and this freaks me out, I may try it again though? (I’ve also been watching YouTube videos on new age to Christian) also I just started this technique... so I’m very new to this practice technique. I do think doing this will grow and work out your manifestation muscle.

Has anyone else done this technique? For a longer consistent time? Did anyone else get freaked doing this? Or am I odd ball with one? ...regardless, it could be empowering, if that’s what calls you

I do this all the time and have been doing it for quite a while. What’s wrong with having desires lol. That’s the whole point of life. Ego isn’t bad, it’s excess that’s too much. Why can’t you have spiritual fulfillment and all your desires too lol? They’re not mutually exclusive. Just intend for everything you desire to be in your highest alignment and there your problem is solved.  I don’t really understand why you’re scared. Only you can guide yourself, there’s no one else unless you allow other people to have power. You also manifest 24 hrs out of a day it’s not something you just turn off so might as well manifest consciously and get things you want rather than go on autopilot and manifest based on old beliefs. This technique also works on writing down who you want to be in the present or past tense terms. The universe doesn’t judge, it just wants you to make a decision and stick to it so it give you what you want in the fastest way.

Agree with everything she has said!!!
Also Pinkamena, It all comes down to trusting yourself, and that may be hard right now. It took me a few months to rebuild my intuition, but once you do, it feels amazing because at the end of the day I am the ONLY ONE who knows what’s best for me. The universe/ any higher power aligns with me, not the other way around.

YESSSS. I LOVE THAT. PREACH. 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 19, 2019, 07:24:03 AM
I firmly believe that what is meant for us the universe will push in and give to us, along with pushing through with positivity and manifesting, surrounding ourselves with good people vibes and staying hopeful in sometimes not so hopeful situations, the videos uploaded on this thread have really inspired me, I've been taking time to get involved in this instead of wondering why my SO hasn't contacted
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 29, 2019, 06:53:06 PM
I've watched Amanda's video.
Her tecniques comes from Naville Goddard.
There are some more youtubers talks about Naville's techniques like Joseph Alai( I think Ladya mentioned about him) who is really good.

I think I myself is pretty good at LOA that I have several instant manifestation experiences.
Contacts, money, promotions, some paranormal experiences like telekinesis and UFO watching etc.

Therefore I believe if there is anything not happened yet, that means the time is not right yet, or, something on my mind is blocking it to happen.

I also experienced negative manifestation.
Manifestation is getting quicker because the earth is raising her vibe.

I feel the best way to manifest what we want in our life, is to do some good inner work, as self love, love to others, inner peace, then start to focus on manifesting what we want.

Because without doing inner work, we still manifest what is on our subconcious mind but can be something negative.

It's better to clear negativity in our mind to get ready to LOA, before that most of the time we may see some different results even opposite happens.( of course sometimes good though, but better in control)

I like the words of stop manifesting instead of 'being', which means being in the state of whatever we want is already here.
Or we can say 'living in the end'.

Living in the end which means being happy, feeling fulfilled now.
This is the shortest way for having what we want.

But how to get out from anxiety and be happy right now, this is why inner work is necessary I believe.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 29, 2019, 11:18:26 PM
I've watched Amanda's video.
Her tecniques comes from Naville Goddard.
There are some more youtubers talks about Naville's techniques like Joseph Alai( I think Ladya mentioned about him) who is really good.

I think I myself is pretty good at LOA that I have several instant manifestation experiences.
Contacts, money, promotions, some paranormal experiences like telekinesis and UFO watching etc.

Therefore I believe if there is anything not happened yet, that means the time is not right yet, or, something on my mind is blocking it to happen.

I also experienced negative manifestation.
Manifestation is getting quicker because the earth is raising her vibe.

I feel the best way to manifest what we want in our life, is to do some good inner work, as self love, love to others, inner peace, then start to focus on manifesting what we want.

Because without doing inner work, we still manifest what is on our subconcious mind but can be something negative.

It's better to clear negativity in our mind to get ready to LOA, before that most of the time we may see some different results even opposite happens.( of course sometimes good though, but better in control)

I like the words of stop manifesting instead of 'being', which means being in the state of whatever we want is already here.
Or we can say 'living in the end'.

Living in the end which means being happy, feeling fulfilled now.
This is the shortest way for having what we want.

But how to get out from anxiety and be happy right now, this is why inner work is necessary I believe.

Wish there was a love button on this forum. It all starts and ends with us. Once we change ourselves, the world around us changes.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 30, 2019, 01:27:45 AM
I've watched Amanda's video.
Her tecniques comes from Naville Goddard.
There are some more youtubers talks about Naville's techniques like Joseph Alai( I think Ladya mentioned about him) who is really good.

I think I myself is pretty good at LOA that I have several instant manifestation experiences.
Contacts, money, promotions, some paranormal experiences like telekinesis and UFO watching etc.

Therefore I believe if there is anything not happened yet, that means the time is not right yet, or, something on my mind is blocking it to happen.

I also experienced negative manifestation.
Manifestation is getting quicker because the earth is raising her vibe.

I feel the best way to manifest what we want in our life, is to do some good inner work, as self love, love to others, inner peace, then start to focus on manifesting what we want.

Because without doing inner work, we still manifest what is on our subconcious mind but can be something negative.

It's better to clear negativity in our mind to get ready to LOA, before that most of the time we may see some different results even opposite happens.( of course sometimes good though, but better in control)

I like the words of stop manifesting instead of 'being', which means being in the state of whatever we want is already here.
Or we can say 'living in the end'.

Living in the end which means being happy, feeling fulfilled now.
This is the shortest way for having what we want.

But how to get out from anxiety and be happy right now, this is why inner work is necessary I believe.

Wish there was a love button on this forum. It all starts and ends with us. Once we change ourselves, the world around us changes.


Yeah I wish so' too.
And our life is a reflection of our mind, so we get what we push out.

Women get treated by men the way how they treat themselves(and vise versa), people receive the money that they believe they deserve to see.

Anxiety comes from deep down our mind that we think we aren't good enough.
But that's all  illusion.

I feel manifestation speed is going up in our daily realm, whatever in our mind manifest in a short term, sometimes it's good and sometimes it's painful.
Seems it's a time to clear our mind for next level of conciousness.

I stopped the mindset  ' I want this, I want that, when it is happening' instead of being at peace right now, and put in more energy to help others.

It's just my case, if I have everything I want, I won't be interested in readings.
(I don't feel necessary doing readings for fun or guidance)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 30, 2019, 07:40:05 PM
I have some LOA homework before the new year I’d like to finish, also share but if I say too much then I’m scared I won’t walk what I preach

I think for me my biggest homework lesson today is: don’t obsess, don’t worry act natural! ...this is the way (😂)

My other LOA HW
-I got grateful journal I’m going to finish and burn (4yrs in the making!)
-I wrote out my blocks for what I manifest and it’s limited beliefs, plus what I have going

As, I scrolled thru keen advisors this morning, I know something about myself: I’m not calling, I promised myself that today ...this is the way (but if i know im not calling then I catch myself why am I even looking? Just stop, don’t add to that story... this is the way) but most importantly I am learning to taking that thing I desire off that pedestal, it’s coming and manifesting in the most wonderful way ...but I’m taking off it pedestal... this the way

Yeah in my experience, exactly like you said if we put something on pedestal, even our vibe is high we attract whatever we want  except the one we REALLY want.

Because putting something on pedestal means we think we don't deserve it yet.
For me, reading is also putting desire on pedestal.

But at least as long as our vibe grown higher, manifestation happens very fast.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 31, 2019, 07:52:48 AM
As much as I believe in manifesting, and I believe you can get things you want through your mindset, I can't help but feel some experiences and situations in your life have shaped you and made who you are which you can't control. I had an abusive girlfriend a couple of years back who cheated on me and was a head f@ck with lots of gaslighting and all the classic signs of abuse, I was in a happy place and felt like when I met her, my world was in a good place and I was content and felt good in myself, she eroded me and made my life a living hell. What gets to me is when people say I deserved that or I brought that on cuz of my own negativity or how I feel on myself, but I was actually very happy in myself in that stage in life and life couldn't of been better for me. Bad things can happen to any body what ever mindset you have or feel, and I do feel like we have the opportunities to manifest certain things, but certain situations are out of our control, I don't know how it all works and if lessons are sent to us on purpose and people are, but it's a tricky area with so many theories.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 08:19:35 AM
As much as I believe in manifesting, and I believe you can get things you want through your mindset, I can't help but feel some experiences and situations in your life have shaped you and made who you are which you can't control. I had an abusive girlfriend a couple of years back who cheated on me and was a head f@ck with lots of gaslighting and all the classic signs of abuse, I was in a happy place and felt like when I met her, my world was in a good place and I was content and felt good in myself, she eroded me and made my life a living hell. What gets to me is when people say I deserved that or I brought that on cuz of my own negativity or how I feel on myself, but I was actually very happy in myself in that stage in life and life couldn't of been better for me. Bad things can happen to any body what ever mindset you have or feel, and I do feel like we have the opportunities to manifest certain things, but certain situations are out of our control, I don't know how it all works and if lessons are sent to us on purpose and people are, but it's a tricky area with so many theories.

It‘s just my point of view sometimes it’s birth contract from past life so it‘s not just this us creating our ownlife.
That’s why certain things are fated to happen certain ppl are meant to meet.
just my view though
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 31, 2019, 01:09:37 PM
As much as I believe in manifesting, and I believe you can get things you want through your mindset, I can't help but feel some experiences and situations in your life have shaped you and made who you are which you can't control. I had an abusive girlfriend a couple of years back who cheated on me and was a head f@ck with lots of gaslighting and all the classic signs of abuse, I was in a happy place and felt like when I met her, my world was in a good place and I was content and felt good in myself, she eroded me and made my life a living hell. What gets to me is when people say I deserved that or I brought that on cuz of my own negativity or how I feel on myself, but I was actually very happy in myself in that stage in life and life couldn't of been better for me. Bad things can happen to any body what ever mindset you have or feel, and I do feel like we have the opportunities to manifest certain things, but certain situations are out of our control, I don't know how it all works and if lessons are sent to us on purpose and people are, but it's a tricky area with so many theories.

Once you take responsibility for all the good and bad in your life, you can change everything. It has nothing to do with being happy, it’s your deep seated beliefs that manifested either of feeling like you’re always taken advantage of or you’re not worthy of something. Theres a million reasons why. To be a good manifestor you can’t pick and choose what you created lol. You accept responsibility for it all forgive yourself, change those beliefs and it’ll never happen again.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Bostongirl on December 31, 2019, 01:46:27 PM
lol. I agree.... It's about confidence.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 31, 2019, 01:52:17 PM
Try manifesting lottery numbers or ask any of the gurus how to do it. That is sufficient for me to accept that manifesting doesnt work.

Manifesting money isn’t hard. People have messed up beliefs about money and a lot is ingrained from society. Clearly you never read neville Goddard. He talks about the lottery and people winning it. It’s the same as manifesting anything else. Manifesting isn’t something you turn off, you’re always doing it. You can choose to do it consciously or not - up to you.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on December 31, 2019, 02:00:13 PM
As much as I believe in manifesting, and I believe you can get things you want through your mindset, I can't help but feel some experiences and situations in your life have shaped you and made who you are which you can't control. I had an abusive girlfriend a couple of years back who cheated on me and was a head f@ck with lots of gaslighting and all the classic signs of abuse, I was in a happy place and felt like when I met her, my world was in a good place and I was content and felt good in myself, she eroded me and made my life a living hell. What gets to me is when people say I deserved that or I brought that on cuz of my own negativity or how I feel on myself, but I was actually very happy in myself in that stage in life and life couldn't of been better for me. Bad things can happen to any body what ever mindset you have or feel, and I do feel like we have the opportunities to manifest certain things, but certain situations are out of our control, I don't know how it all works and if lessons are sent to us on purpose and people are, but it's a tricky area with so many theories.

Once you take responsibility for all the good and bad in your life, you can change everything. It has nothing to do with being happy, it’s your deep seated beliefs that manifested either of feeling like you’re always taken advantage of or you’re not worthy of something. Theres a million reasons why. To be a good manifestor you can’t pick and choose what you created lol. You accept responsibility for it all forgive yourself, change those beliefs and it’ll never happen again.

That's the issue, I had a good upbringing and was a happy guy, good friends, supportive family, I didn't really have any bad things happen to me or anything bad really that could affect my self esteem. This girl came in and at first things were perfect and I really did love her, she slowly got worse over time but at that point I was truly in love. People say that it's easy to walk away from abuse and only people with low self esteem stay in abusive situations but I disagree, abusers can be clever people and it can happen to anyone. Since her, I worked on myself and had lots of support from friends and family, thankfully, but people can erode you down and I do think some things we can't control
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 31, 2019, 02:12:17 PM
Try manifesting lottery numbers or ask any of the gurus how to do it. That is sufficient for me to accept that manifesting doesnt work.

Manifesting money isn’t hard. People have messed up beliefs about money and a lot is ingrained from society. Clearly you never read neville Goddard. He talks about the lottery and people winning it. It’s the same as manifesting anything else. Manifesting isn’t something you turn off, you’re always doing it. You can choose to do it consciously or not - up to you.

Allow me to share my views. You have no clue what i have read. Many ppl with the right views abt money never win the lotto. And many ppl who were convinced they wouldnt win have won it. If believing in manifesting works for u fine. To me it just leads ppl down the rabbit hole of insanity. It doesnt work. Please dont tell me what i didnt read, lol.

lol it’s not a belief. I’ve been doing it all my life and have come to the point where I mastered it. I have books upon books of what I manifested
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 02:57:19 PM
Try manifesting lottery numbers or ask any of the gurus how to do it. That is sufficient for me to accept that manifesting doesnt work.

Manifesting money isn’t hard. People have messed up beliefs about money and a lot is ingrained from society. Clearly you never read neville Goddard. He talks about the lottery and people winning it. It’s the same as manifesting anything else. Manifesting isn’t something you turn off, you’re always doing it. You can choose to do it consciously or not - up to you.

Allow me to share my views. You have no clue what i have read. Many ppl with the right views abt money never win the lotto. And many ppl who were convinced they wouldnt win have won it. If believing in manifesting works for u fine. To me it just leads ppl down the rabbit hole of insanity. It doesnt work. Please dont tell me what i didnt read, lol.

Just from my experience.
You don't have to limit receiving money with winning lotto.
There are hundreds and thousands of ways to have more money.

Once you have a correct belief you will attract what you want, I totally agree with Ladya.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
About manifestation, I've talked to some psychics.
They agree with it and Yona said LOA is natural.

When our vibe is raising, we get what we want ' from no where'.
We want money, doesn't need to be winning lotteries.
There are hundreds and thousands ways universe help us to receive money,

Things work like this, you never know how the universe work for you.
Everything are manifstations happened to me.

-I wanted some extra income, then suddenly my flight got over booked and the airline payed me 1000$ for apology.

-I wanted a payraise, but I've done nothing remarkable at my job.
Then suddenly one of my client wrongly offered me a big project,  boss was very happy and gave me a promotion.
After payraise was done my client turned it down because they realized they didn't secure the budget.
But still I got promoted without doing anything, and nothing was my fault.

-I really liked a movie, I watched it again and again.
Then I met a guy had the same job looks like the hero at the movie and we had date at the exact location in the movie.(Somewhere far away from my country)

etc.

We can say we attract things, we also can say we shift to different parallel reality.
Parallel reality do exist, it's like at this moment there is a you typing your post, there is another you parting with your friends etc.
You become the one you decide to be, and your vibration matches to be.

I have parallel reality experience.

There was one day, I had a huge box in front of my door. My family was also there.
Then I imagined I want to carry the box into my room.

The next moment, the box was in my room.
None of any of us touched the box. My family said, well, telekinesis or parallel reality shift

We shifted to another parallel reality that the box was already carried by somebody into my room.

My friend has met another me in a totally different locatoin at that time I was meditating being there and walking around.

I believe this is the way of ' manifestation' we become the version of us our vibration matches the most.
Therefore we need to make decision how we want to spend our life and ' be' in the vibration that we already have it.

Manifestation works, what we need to do is raise our vibration, change our belief.
When our vibe is high enough, sometimes manifestation happens instantly.

Telekinesis, teleportation are all possible.(I've done and seen)
 They are just instant manifestation.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 31, 2019, 03:46:57 PM
About manifestation, I've talked to some psychics.
They agree with it and Yona said LOA is natural.

When our vibe is raising, we get what we want ' from no where'.
We want money, doesn't need to be winning lotteries.
There are hundreds and thousands ways universe help us to receive money,

Things work like this, you never know how the universe work for you.
Everything are manifstations happened to me.

-I wanted some extra income, then suddenly my flight got over booked and the airline payed me 1000$ for apology.

-I wanted a payraise, but I've done nothing remarkable at my job.
Then suddenly one of my client wrongly offered me a big project,  boss was very happy and gave me a promotion.
After payraise was done my client turned it down because they realized they didn't secure the budget.
But still I got promoted without doing anything, and nothing was my fault.

-I really liked a movie, I watched it again and again.
Then I met a guy had the same job looks like the hero at the movie and we had date at the exact location in the movie.(Somewhere far away from my country)

etc.

We can say we attract things, we also can say we shift to different parallel reality.
Parallel reality do exist, it's like at this moment there is a you typing your post, there is another you parting with your friends etc.
You become the one you decide to be, and your vibration matches to be.

I have parallel reality experience.

There was one day, I had a huge box in front of my door. My family was also there.
Then I imagined I want to carry the box into my room.

The next moment, the box was in my room.
None of any of us touched the box. My family said, well, telekinesis or parallel reality shift

We shifted to another parallel reality that the box was already carried by somebody into my room.

My friend has met another me in a totally different locatoin at that time I was meditating being there and walking around.

I believe this is the way of ' manifestation' we become the version of us our vibration matches the most.
Therefore we need to make decision how we want to spend our life and ' be' in the vibration that we already have it.

Manifestation works, what we need to do is raise our vibration, change our belief.
When our vibe is high enough, sometimes manifestation happens instantly.

Telekinesis, teleportation are all possible.(I've done and seen)
 They are just instant manifestation.

you make a lot of great points ES. I've experienced all the things you mentioned as well.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 03:49:13 PM
About manifestation, I've talked to some psychics.
They agree with it and Yona said LOA is natural.

When our vibe is raising, we get what we want ' from no where'.
We want money, doesn't need to be winning lotteries.
There are hundreds and thousands ways universe help us to receive money,

Things work like this, you never know how the universe work for you.
Everything are manifstations happened to me.

-I wanted some extra income, then suddenly my flight got over booked and the airline payed me 1000$ for apology.

-I wanted a payraise, but I've done nothing remarkable at my job.
Then suddenly one of my client wrongly offered me a big project,  boss was very happy and gave me a promotion.
After payraise was done my client turned it down because they realized they didn't secure the budget.
But still I got promoted without doing anything, and nothing was my fault.

-I really liked a movie, I watched it again and again.
Then I met a guy had the same job looks like the hero at the movie and we had date at the exact location in the movie.(Somewhere far away from my country)

etc.

We can say we attract things, we also can say we shift to different parallel reality.
Parallel reality do exist, it's like at this moment there is a you typing your post, there is another you parting with your friends etc.
You become the one you decide to be, and your vibration matches to be.

I have parallel reality experience.

There was one day, I had a huge box in front of my door. My family was also there.
Then I imagined I want to carry the box into my room.

The next moment, the box was in my room.
None of any of us touched the box. My family said, well, telekinesis or parallel reality shift

We shifted to another parallel reality that the box was already carried by somebody into my room.

My friend has met another me in a totally different locatoin at that time I was meditating being there and walking around.

I believe this is the way of ' manifestation' we become the version of us our vibration matches the most.
Therefore we need to make decision how we want to spend our life and ' be' in the vibration that we already have it.

Manifestation works, what we need to do is raise our vibration, change our belief.
When our vibe is high enough, sometimes manifestation happens instantly.

Telekinesis, teleportation are all possible.(I've done and seen)
 They are just instant manifestation.

you make a lot of great points ES. I've experienced all the things you mentioned as well.

Thanks Ladya, I really like your posts.
Would you mind if I contact you directly(DM) for sharing manifestation experiences?
Just in case if you are interested : )
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on December 31, 2019, 04:19:54 PM
About manifestation, I've talked to some psychics.
They agree with it and Yona said LOA is natural.

When our vibe is raising, we get what we want ' from no where'.
We want money, doesn't need to be winning lotteries.
There are hundreds and thousands ways universe help us to receive money,

Things work like this, you never know how the universe work for you.
Everything are manifstations happened to me.

-I wanted some extra income, then suddenly my flight got over booked and the airline payed me 1000$ for apology.

-I wanted a payraise, but I've done nothing remarkable at my job.
Then suddenly one of my client wrongly offered me a big project,  boss was very happy and gave me a promotion.
After payraise was done my client turned it down because they realized they didn't secure the budget.
But still I got promoted without doing anything, and nothing was my fault.

-I really liked a movie, I watched it again and again.
Then I met a guy had the same job looks like the hero at the movie and we had date at the exact location in the movie.(Somewhere far away from my country)

etc.

We can say we attract things, we also can say we shift to different parallel reality.
Parallel reality do exist, it's like at this moment there is a you typing your post, there is another you parting with your friends etc.
You become the one you decide to be, and your vibration matches to be.

I have parallel reality experience.

There was one day, I had a huge box in front of my door. My family was also there.
Then I imagined I want to carry the box into my room.

The next moment, the box was in my room.
None of any of us touched the box. My family said, well, telekinesis or parallel reality shift

We shifted to another parallel reality that the box was already carried by somebody into my room.

My friend has met another me in a totally different locatoin at that time I was meditating being there and walking around.

I believe this is the way of ' manifestation' we become the version of us our vibration matches the most.
Therefore we need to make decision how we want to spend our life and ' be' in the vibration that we already have it.

Manifestation works, what we need to do is raise our vibration, change our belief.
When our vibe is high enough, sometimes manifestation happens instantly.

Telekinesis, teleportation are all possible.(I've done and seen)
 They are just instant manifestation.

you make a lot of great points ES. I've experienced all the things you mentioned as well.

Thanks Ladya, I really like your posts.
Would you mind if I contact you directly(DM) for sharing manifestation experiences?
Just in case if you are interested : )

sure anytime :)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 05:25:41 PM
About manifestation, I've talked to some psychics.
They agree with it and Yona said LOA is natural.

When our vibe is raising, we get what we want ' from no where'.
We want money, doesn't need to be winning lotteries.
There are hundreds and thousands ways universe help us to receive money,

Things work like this, you never know how the universe work for you.
Everything are manifstations happened to me.

-I wanted some extra income, then suddenly my flight got over booked and the airline payed me 1000$ for apology.

-I wanted a payraise, but I've done nothing remarkable at my job.
Then suddenly one of my client wrongly offered me a big project,  boss was very happy and gave me a promotion.
After payraise was done my client turned it down because they realized they didn't secure the budget.
But still I got promoted without doing anything, and nothing was my fault.

-I really liked a movie, I watched it again and again.
Then I met a guy had the same job looks like the hero at the movie and we had date at the exact location in the movie.(Somewhere far away from my country)

etc.

We can say we attract things, we also can say we shift to different parallel reality.
Parallel reality do exist, it's like at this moment there is a you typing your post, there is another you parting with your friends etc.
You become the one you decide to be, and your vibration matches to be.

I have parallel reality experience.

There was one day, I had a huge box in front of my door. My family was also there.
Then I imagined I want to carry the box into my room.

The next moment, the box was in my room.
None of any of us touched the box. My family said, well, telekinesis or parallel reality shift

We shifted to another parallel reality that the box was already carried by somebody into my room.

My friend has met another me in a totally different locatoin at that time I was meditating being there and walking around.

I believe this is the way of ' manifestation' we become the version of us our vibration matches the most.
Therefore we need to make decision how we want to spend our life and ' be' in the vibration that we already have it.

Manifestation works, what we need to do is raise our vibration, change our belief.
When our vibe is high enough, sometimes manifestation happens instantly.

Telekinesis, teleportation are all possible.(I've done and seen)
 They are just instant manifestation.

Was the box story an example of teleportation? What if someone just moved it into the room wasn’t there, didn’t remember, or didn’t say that they put it on the room? Does that mean teleportation occurred?

What if our lives are big giant game of chance, coincidences, with a healthy dose of free will? Sure, I remember when I first met my husband, we broke up. I was devastated and I watched a YouTube video where this lady wrote a letter to the universe about what she wanted in a life partner. She was specific and filed it away and did not think about it, she explained how 13 months later, she met a man that matched perfectly to who she described as her perfect match to the universe. After my breakup, I did this describing my husband, filed it away, then 2 months later I was back in a renewed relationship that led to marriage. Now I can give credit to the little exercise that I completed, or I can give credit to myself and my partner for both working at rebuilding our relationship. This is not to say I don’t believe in manifestation or LOA, because I do believe in the power or positive thinking - there is merit and it’s helped me reshape some negative thinking I got into a habit of doing.

But the fact is, we all want love, we all want money, some get both, some 1 or the other, some get neither, why is that?

The box story was a teleportation / telekinesis or we can say parallel reality shift.
The whole story is, one day I got a huge box I shopped online, big and heavy.
My partner and I were in front of my house.
At that moment I  imagined one second I carried the box into my room.

The next moment, the box dissapared.
My partner and I were still standing infront of the house.

I went into my room to chek if the box was there because I made an one second intention.
Then it was exactly at where I have imagined.

I believe this is how teleportation or telekinesis work.
We aren't crazy this is not the only one shift I experienced.

I have experienced an brand new toy ball in my hand, changed to a dirty old toy in one moment.
Stains and kids' graffiti on it.

About

[we all want love, we all want money, some get both, some 1 or the other, some get neither, why is that?]

I believe we have some certain events meant to happen in our life. Mostly are for spiritual growth, or a karmic contract with a certain place or people.

How to deal with the circumstances are our choice, if we overcome the pain, and tap into another level of conciousnes, we find we can change our life drastic.

So I believe we have events and people we need to deal with, but how to deal with it there are numerous possibilities.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 05:31:13 PM
The last i will say in this thread is this: did the people in Haiti suffering from the hurricanes and earthquakes attract it. My brother’s wife who eats healthy and is a fitness instructor has stage 4 cancer. Did she attract it? Is it that she can manifest out of it? My aunt’s son fell in a pool and drowned yrs ago. Did she or he attract or manifest it. Rubbish. We all have to accept the cards we are dealt in life. We can only speed things up or slow them down but manifesting doesnt work!!!!

There are birthplan we meet certain event , or certain people. We call it fate.
And we have some space to manifest what we want.

Manifest doesn't work if you believe it doesn't work, you are simply manifesting ' it doesn't work'.
It's all about belief.
But I think there is no need to do manifestation if you think it doesn't work. It's just a choice we make and either way life can be good:)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on December 31, 2019, 06:00:08 PM
About manifestation, I've talked to some psychics.
They agree with it and Yona said LOA is natural.

When our vibe is raising, we get what we want ' from no where'.
We want money, doesn't need to be winning lotteries.
There are hundreds and thousands ways universe help us to receive money,

Things work like this, you never know how the universe work for you.
Everything are manifstations happened to me.

-I wanted some extra income, then suddenly my flight got over booked and the airline payed me 1000$ for apology.

-I wanted a payraise, but I've done nothing remarkable at my job.
Then suddenly one of my client wrongly offered me a big project,  boss was very happy and gave me a promotion.
After payraise was done my client turned it down because they realized they didn't secure the budget.
But still I got promoted without doing anything, and nothing was my fault.

-I really liked a movie, I watched it again and again.
Then I met a guy had the same job looks like the hero at the movie and we had date at the exact location in the movie.(Somewhere far away from my country)

etc.

We can say we attract things, we also can say we shift to different parallel reality.
Parallel reality do exist, it's like at this moment there is a you typing your post, there is another you parting with your friends etc.
You become the one you decide to be, and your vibration matches to be.

I have parallel reality experience.

There was one day, I had a huge box in front of my door. My family was also there.
Then I imagined I want to carry the box into my room.

The next moment, the box was in my room.
None of any of us touched the box. My family said, well, telekinesis or parallel reality shift

We shifted to another parallel reality that the box was already carried by somebody into my room.

My friend has met another me in a totally different locatoin at that time I was meditating being there and walking around.

I believe this is the way of ' manifestation' we become the version of us our vibration matches the most.
Therefore we need to make decision how we want to spend our life and ' be' in the vibration that we already have it.

Manifestation works, what we need to do is raise our vibration, change our belief.
When our vibe is high enough, sometimes manifestation happens instantly.

Telekinesis, teleportation are all possible.(I've done and seen)
 They are just instant manifestation.

Was the box story an example of teleportation? What if someone just moved it into the room wasn’t there, didn’t remember, or didn’t say that they put it on the room? Does that mean teleportation occurred?

What if our lives are big giant game of chance, coincidences, with a healthy dose of free will? Sure, I remember when I first met my husband, we broke up. I was devastated and I watched a YouTube video where this lady wrote a letter to the universe about what she wanted in a life partner. She was specific and filed it away and did not think about it, she explained how 13 months later, she met a man that matched perfectly to who she described as her perfect match to the universe. After my breakup, I did this describing my husband, filed it away, then 2 months later I was back in a renewed relationship that led to marriage. Now I can give credit to the little exercise that I completed, or I can give credit to myself and my partner for both working at rebuilding our relationship. This is not to say I don’t believe in manifestation or LOA, because I do believe in the power or positive thinking - there is merit and it’s helped me reshape some negative thinking I got into a habit of doing.

But the fact is, we all want love, we all want money, some get both, some 1 or the other, some get neither, why is that?

The box story was a teleportation / telekinesis or we can say parallel reality shift.
The whole story is, one day I got a huge box I shopped online, big and heavy.
My partner and I were in front of my house.
At that moment I  imagined one second I carried the box into my room.

The next moment, the box dissapared.
My partner and I were still standing infront of the house.

I went into my room to chek if the box was there because I made an one second intention.
Then it was exactly at where I have imagined.

I believe this is how teleportation or telekinesis work.
We aren't crazy this is not the only one shift I experienced.

I have experienced an brand new toy ball in my hand, changed to a dirty old toy in one moment.
Stains and kids' graffiti on it.

About

[we all want love, we all want money, some get both, some 1 or the other, some get neither, why is that?]

I believe we have some certain events meant to happen in our life. Mostly are for spiritual growth, or a karmic contract with a certain place or people.

How to deal with the circumstances are our choice, if we overcome the pain, and tap into another level of conciousnes, we find we can change our life drastic.

So I believe we have events and people we need to deal with, but how to deal with it there are numerous possibilities.

Thanks ES1! I’m still trying to grasp the box story but I believe that it did happen and that’s pretty cool. Another point for debate, if there are certain things that are destined and fated for us, wouldn’t that negate the core of manifestation and LOA? That says to me no matter how hard we try to manifest something, if it’s not meant for us, we will never be able to achieve it. Thoughts?
Thanks Silvermoon, I hope I can tell you directly about the box, I also have experience of calling my daughter then connected to my daughter in another parallel reality.

In my understand...there are particular events we can not change, particular people we can not avoid.
But we can change some of the outcome, as you said, it's like a simulating game.
We have different path we can choose.
It's just my opinon, we can make changes based on a rough blue print.

So I can't say yes we can definately attract our POI because probably deep down, a part of us know he isn't good enough.
Then we try to attract them but we avoid attracting them in our subconcious mind and then...it doesn't manifest.

But for highest good, if we let go our wants, needs, living happy right now, we can get to where is the best for us.
It's just my opinion.

Last week I tested attracting a contact.
I wanted a guy to text me, but what I got is a 'like' from instagram.(within 24 hours, we haven't talked to each other for 8 months because we had a fight)

Well at that moment I didn't really wanted his text in my sub-concious mind because I wasn't that interested.
A like was enough that means an attention.

On the other hand I attracted a text from another friend asking me to travel together, i was exactly only had good feeling about this person. I was actually thingking it was really fun we traveled together last time.
We haven't talked about 2 months.

For me this is how it works, the guy may still going to text me though, idk, but timing is not what we can control.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Esse on December 31, 2019, 07:13:02 PM
I manifested a long term relationship once with an SP, he even proposed - this was long before the days of youtube, it was with someone who totally didn't want to be in a relationship with me at the start, it took a long time and only really happened when I properly let go literally thought F' it I just don't care anymore. 

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 01, 2020, 02:38:52 PM
I manifested a long term relationship once with an SP, he even proposed - this was long before the days of youtube, it was with someone who totally didn't want to be in a relationship with me at the start, it took a long time and only really happened when I properly let go literally thought F' it I just don't care anymore.

Yeah it seems when we let go it comes into our life. When we don't put it on pedestal anymore.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 01, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
I manifested something this new year.
We are going to purchase a house so I was checking furnitures, curtains etc.
I was imaninating our favorite furnitures in new house.

Then after a week my mother in law texted me that she will give me 10k$. She doesn't know we are moving.
Ususally she doesn't give us money on new year.

I'm very happy we will use for some furnitures.

Btw it's off topic Yona predicted I will move house and have fun on decoration etc which is really spot on.
She said she can see I moved house within next 6months( I read her on December and decided it to be my last psychic reading) and yeah I believe it will happen.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 03, 2020, 05:46:50 PM
I agree with some of the previous comments on here, by the way. My childhood has shaped me into who I am, and the events which have happened. If a child has a bad childhood and people go around saying that in their adulthood they manifest negative things because of their mindset, how is that the adult's fault? The adult can't control what happened in their childhood to make them who they are now. I could have therapy and be in a better place, but I had not a great childhood I'll be honest and I'll never be 100%, ever. I'll always be a little shy or have confidence issues and what I've found is with law of attraction or manifesting it stressed me even more because I felt at fault for having low confidence but I couldn't help feeling that way. Like other comments have said - do people who get cancer get it because of their negativity, or children starve and die because they didn't manifest thinking about food?

I've "let go" of multiple men and they still did not come back to me or magically influence them to have feelings for me and be happily ever after. Some things you cannot control no matter what. Every single one of us on this forum has an ex we wouldn't take back for a million dollars for various reasons, yet people are saying we can manifest anyone we want back. There was a reader I spoke to who told me that people who die of cancer young is because they have such negativity in them it grows like a mould would in themselves. Scary..

Sorry but I've had a completely different experience to others on here.

I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood. Then literally next sentence she told me that I'll never be perfect and 100% from my traumas as nobody is and I can improve but don't expect to be perfectly happy and confident in myself as naturally anybody will never get over traumas completely. I found LOA contradictory and I couldn't win. People get really defensive over it and there's always an excuse for it. I think we are dealt with what we have and we cannot control it. We can't force an ex to love us and come back, we can't go through life dancing on hills and thinking it's all rainbows and flowers and I can hand on heart say I've met nasty evil people when I was in a good place and they came and wrecked things for me.

I actually find the more negative I am about things the more they turn out in my favour. The more I hold out a hope for things, more often than not - the outcome is not in my favour. As an example I'm talking to a guy and the more I think things will go well between us and he seems great for me, it doesn't work out and he turns out to be a dick. If I'm laid back with a guy and don't put too much hope into the situation with him the more unexpected I feel the more things seem to progress.

If I've been invited to a party and I get excited, the person cancels it for whatever reason. If I have the mindset that the party may not happen and act "not so bothered" about it, the party happens. Positive thinking has only worked for me in terms of it's healthy instead of being so negative all of the time.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on January 03, 2020, 06:16:52 PM
I agree with some of the previous comments on here, by the way. My childhood has shaped me into who I am, and the events which have happened. If a child has a bad childhood and people go around saying that in their adulthood they manifest negative things because of their mindset, how is that the adult's fault? The adult can't control what happened in their childhood to make them who they are now. I could have therapy and be in a better place, but I had not a great childhood I'll be honest and I'll never be 100%, ever. I'll always be a little shy or have confidence issues and what I've found is with law of attraction or manifesting it stressed me even more because I felt at fault for having low confidence but I couldn't help feeling that way. Like other comments have said - do people who get cancer get it because of their negativity, or children starve and die because they didn't manifest thinking about food?

I've "let go" of multiple men and they still did not come back to me or magically influence them to have feelings for me and be happily ever after. Some things you cannot control no matter what. Every single one of us on this forum has an ex we wouldn't take back for a million dollars for various reasons, yet people are saying we can manifest anyone we want back. There was a reader I spoke to who told me that people who die of cancer young is because they have such negativity in them it grows like a mould would in themselves. Scary..

Sorry but I've had a completely different experience to others on here.

I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood. Then literally next sentence she told me that I'll never be perfect and 100% from my traumas as nobody is and I can improve but don't expect to be perfectly happy and confident in myself as naturally anybody will never get over traumas completely. I found LOA contradictory and I couldn't win. People get really defensive over it and there's always an excuse for it. I think we are dealt with what we have and we cannot control it. We can't force an ex to love us and come back, we can't go through life dancing on hills and thinking it's all rainbows and flowers and I can hand on heart say I've met nasty evil people when I was in a good place and they came and wrecked things for me.

I actually find the more negative I am about things the more they turn out in my favour. The more I hold out a hope for things, more often than not - the outcome is not in my favour. As an example I'm talking to a guy and the more I think things will go well between us and he seems great for me, it doesn't work out and he turns out to be a dick. If I'm laid back with a guy and don't put too much hope into the situation with him the more unexpected I feel the more things seem to progress.

If I've been invited to a party and I get excited, the person cancels it for whatever reason. If I have the mindset that the party may not happen and act "not so bothered" about it, the party happens. Positive thinking has only worked for me in terms of it's healthy instead of being so negative all of the time.



Youre manifesting this because its a dominant belief you have and reaffirm it every time you say it lol. Anyone can heal from their past traumas, it just takes a lot of self work to do so. Its not overnight to let go of all the past conditioning we have. Its complete bs that a person can't be 100% happy and confident. its a self fulfilling prophecy.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 03, 2020, 07:03:09 PM
I agree with some of the previous comments on here, by the way. My childhood has shaped me into who I am, and the events which have happened. If a child has a bad childhood and people go around saying that in their adulthood they manifest negative things because of their mindset, how is that the adult's fault? The adult can't control what happened in their childhood to make them who they are now. I could have therapy and be in a better place, but I had not a great childhood I'll be honest and I'll never be 100%, ever. I'll always be a little shy or have confidence issues and what I've found is with law of attraction or manifesting it stressed me even more because I felt at fault for having low confidence but I couldn't help feeling that way. Like other comments have said - do people who get cancer get it because of their negativity, or children starve and die because they didn't manifest thinking about food?

I've "let go" of multiple men and they still did not come back to me or magically influence them to have feelings for me and be happily ever after. Some things you cannot control no matter what. Every single one of us on this forum has an ex we wouldn't take back for a million dollars for various reasons, yet people are saying we can manifest anyone we want back. There was a reader I spoke to who told me that people who die of cancer young is because they have such negativity in them it grows like a mould would in themselves. Scary..

Sorry but I've had a completely different experience to others on here.

I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood. Then literally next sentence she told me that I'll never be perfect and 100% from my traumas as nobody is and I can improve but don't expect to be perfectly happy and confident in myself as naturally anybody will never get over traumas completely. I found LOA contradictory and I couldn't win. People get really defensive over it and there's always an excuse for it. I think we are dealt with what we have and we cannot control it. We can't force an ex to love us and come back, we can't go through life dancing on hills and thinking it's all rainbows and flowers and I can hand on heart say I've met nasty evil people when I was in a good place and they came and wrecked things for me.

I actually find the more negative I am about things the more they turn out in my favour. The more I hold out a hope for things, more often than not - the outcome is not in my favour. As an example I'm talking to a guy and the more I think things will go well between us and he seems great for me, it doesn't work out and he turns out to be a dick. If I'm laid back with a guy and don't put too much hope into the situation with him the more unexpected I feel the more things seem to progress.

If I've been invited to a party and I get excited, the person cancels it for whatever reason. If I have the mindset that the party may not happen and act "not so bothered" about it, the party happens. Positive thinking has only worked for me in terms of it's healthy instead of being so negative all of the time.

Hi Star, please take my apology first because I may make you upset.

I've read some of your post and I actually thought you must had a bad childhood.
I know you are around 20 years old? You are already reading for years for multiple exes, which means you may had some attachment issue...

[I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood.]
>A real happy confident self respective woman will not invite any assholes into their life.
They will walk away immedeately when they find some red flags, they don't make excuse.

I assume you do a self healing that will help you on identifying a good man or a jerk, because you must deserve the best man to treat you right.

My best friend had a bad childhood, her mom was self observed and her father was violent.
She is a very beautiful girl but was bullied at school, she always dated somebody didn't treat her right.
At the same time she is a very independent girl, but she has attachment issue.

She is working on self healing now to wait for being ready for a good relationship.

I highly reccomend that, I think what you need is not yet praticing LOA but make a base to be ready to attract something positive.
What is deeper on your mind( As Ladya said your dominant belief) is negative, so if you start to make changes here,your manifestation will be something positive.
 :-*

There is a dating coach on youtube I found is really good.
[Attract great guys]

He is the one not teaching women to attract ' a guy' but attract ' the guy' who will cherish you in your entire life.

I think the most popular male dating coach on youtube is Matthew Hussey but himself isn't in a stable fruitful relationship, and his teaching is too instant.
Girls will still get hooked on jerks weirdles while watching his teaching, but the channel I reccomend won't.

He simply teaches, if the guy doesn't text you or call you for a week, then what to do?
Do nothing, walk away, you deserve somebody better.

I also believe we can attract somebody into our life, but we need to practice from our dominant belief: We deserve to be loved.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 03, 2020, 07:18:02 PM
I agree with some of the previous comments on here, by the way. My childhood has shaped me into who I am, and the events which have happened. If a child has a bad childhood and people go around saying that in their adulthood they manifest negative things because of their mindset, how is that the adult's fault? The adult can't control what happened in their childhood to make them who they are now. I could have therapy and be in a better place, but I had not a great childhood I'll be honest and I'll never be 100%, ever. I'll always be a little shy or have confidence issues and what I've found is with law of attraction or manifesting it stressed me even more because I felt at fault for having low confidence but I couldn't help feeling that way. Like other comments have said - do people who get cancer get it because of their negativity, or children starve and die because they didn't manifest thinking about food?

I've "let go" of multiple men and they still did not come back to me or magically influence them to have feelings for me and be happily ever after. Some things you cannot control no matter what. Every single one of us on this forum has an ex we wouldn't take back for a million dollars for various reasons, yet people are saying we can manifest anyone we want back. There was a reader I spoke to who told me that people who die of cancer young is because they have such negativity in them it grows like a mould would in themselves. Scary..

Sorry but I've had a completely different experience to others on here.

I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood. Then literally next sentence she told me that I'll never be perfect and 100% from my traumas as nobody is and I can improve but don't expect to be perfectly happy and confident in myself as naturally anybody will never get over traumas completely. I found LOA contradictory and I couldn't win. People get really defensive over it and there's always an excuse for it. I think we are dealt with what we have and we cannot control it. We can't force an ex to love us and come back, we can't go through life dancing on hills and thinking it's all rainbows and flowers and I can hand on heart say I've met nasty evil people when I was in a good place and they came and wrecked things for me.

I actually find the more negative I am about things the more they turn out in my favour. The more I hold out a hope for things, more often than not - the outcome is not in my favour. As an example I'm talking to a guy and the more I think things will go well between us and he seems great for me, it doesn't work out and he turns out to be a dick. If I'm laid back with a guy and don't put too much hope into the situation with him the more unexpected I feel the more things seem to progress.

If I've been invited to a party and I get excited, the person cancels it for whatever reason. If I have the mindset that the party may not happen and act "not so bothered" about it, the party happens. Positive thinking has only worked for me in terms of it's healthy instead of being so negative all of the time.

Hi Star, please take my apology first because I may make you upset.

I've read some of your post and I actually thought you must had a bad childhood.
I know you are around 20 years old? You are already reading for years for multiple exes, which means you may had some attachment issue...

[I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood.]
>A real happy confident self respective woman will not invite any assholes into their life.
They will walk away immedeately when they find some red flags, they don't make excuse.

I assume you do a self healing that will help you on identifying a good man or a jerk, because you must deserve the best man to treat you right.

My best friend had a bad childhood, her mom was self observed and her father was violent.
She is a very beautiful girl but was bullied at school, she always dated somebody didn't treat her right.
At the same time she is a very independent girl, but she has attachment issue.

She is working on self healing now to wait for being ready for a good relationship.

I highly reccomend that, I think what you need is not yet praticing LOA but make a base to be ready to attract something positive.
What is deeper on your mind( As Ladya said your dominant belief) is negative, so if you start to make changes here,your manifestation will be something positive.
 :-*

Right.... so by this logic you're all saying what?

That the sweet innocent child who doesn't know any better manifested all of the shitty things that happened to them and affected the rest of their lives because of limiting negative beliefs?

Or is manifestation and LoA just some magic potion and power that kicks in in adulthood? *insert eye roll emoji here*

Yeah I've experienced positive and negative manifestationm, so I can say our dominant belief change our life.

The innocent child shouldn't get abused, it wasn't the child's fault, but how to live his/her rest of life is his/her choice.
If he/she isn't happy enough, isn't getting what he/she want after struggling several years, there must be somethng WRONG!

Take responsibility on your own life, this is the way can lead to happiness.
You don't have to use LOA, but taking responsibility on some of your actions led to not a very satisfiled life, you need to make some change!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 03, 2020, 07:30:43 PM
You definately don't have to use LOA, but self awareness and healing will take our life to a better place.

If you want to use LOA, then start selflove and selfhealing to be ready for a positive manifestation.






Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Arigirl on January 03, 2020, 08:56:02 PM
I agree with some of the previous comments on here, by the way. My childhood has shaped me into who I am, and the events which have happened. If a child has a bad childhood and people go around saying that in their adulthood they manifest negative things because of their mindset, how is that the adult's fault? The adult can't control what happened in their childhood to make them who they are now. I could have therapy and be in a better place, but I had not a great childhood I'll be honest and I'll never be 100%, ever. I'll always be a little shy or have confidence issues and what I've found is with law of attraction or manifesting it stressed me even more because I felt at fault for having low confidence but I couldn't help feeling that way. Like other comments have said - do people who get cancer get it because of their negativity, or children starve and die because they didn't manifest thinking about food?

I've "let go" of multiple men and they still did not come back to me or magically influence them to have feelings for me and be happily ever after. Some things you cannot control no matter what. Every single one of us on this forum has an ex we wouldn't take back for a million dollars for various reasons, yet people are saying we can manifest anyone we want back. There was a reader I spoke to who told me that people who die of cancer young is because they have such negativity in them it grows like a mould would in themselves. Scary..

Sorry but I've had a completely different experience to others on here.

I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood. Then literally next sentence she told me that I'll never be perfect and 100% from my traumas as nobody is and I can improve but don't expect to be perfectly happy and confident in myself as naturally anybody will never get over traumas completely. I found LOA contradictory and I couldn't win. People get really defensive over it and there's always an excuse for it. I think we are dealt with what we have and we cannot control it. We can't force an ex to love us and come back, we can't go through life dancing on hills and thinking it's all rainbows and flowers and I can hand on heart say I've met nasty evil people when I was in a good place and they came and wrecked things for me.

I actually find the more negative I am about things the more they turn out in my favour. The more I hold out a hope for things, more often than not - the outcome is not in my favour. As an example I'm talking to a guy and the more I think things will go well between us and he seems great for me, it doesn't work out and he turns out to be a dick. If I'm laid back with a guy and don't put too much hope into the situation with him the more unexpected I feel the more things seem to progress.

If I've been invited to a party and I get excited, the person cancels it for whatever reason. If I have the mindset that the party may not happen and act "not so bothered" about it, the party happens. Positive thinking has only worked for me in terms of it's healthy instead of being so negative all of the time.



Youre manifesting this because its a dominant belief you have and reaffirm it every time you say it lol. Anyone can heal from their past traumas, it just takes a lot of self work to do so. Its not overnight to let go of all the past conditioning we have. Its complete bs that a person can't be 100% happy and confident. its a self fulfilling prophecy.

This is actually why I personally have not really got well into loa, I like it in theory, but ultimately I feel it shifts blame onto individuals for circumstances beyond their control. I personally am a very optimistic person, had a great childhood with very supportive parents and siblings, etc., but like most people, I have had some pretty life shattering things happen in my life thus far and I'm only in my mid-twenties. I absolutely had no control over these events. Granted, I'm not far into my research into loa, but I personslly   don't believe that certain things can be manifested because they crossed our minds more than once. So many cruel things happen to people in this world, and I really don't believe they manifest them upon themselves in most instances, believing so is victim blaming in my opinion.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on January 03, 2020, 09:29:06 PM
I too find it's complete bs that a person can be 100% happy all the time, every day, because we're humans. Humans don't operate that way. We must experience the bad in order to appreciate the good. We have to have one and/or the other as a frame of reference. It's best to try to remain positive and to pick yourself back up after a downfall, but joy/happiness is not a sustainable plane. I also don't see a lot of proof that the dominant belief rules a person's life. There are a lot of variables involved throughout life, so I feel there are no set rules that govern everything. Life is a balance of ebbs and flows.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on January 03, 2020, 09:40:02 PM
Manifesting will never work for you if you dont believe it does or if there's forces outside your control. you cant be a conscious creator if you dont accept responsibility for your life. It has nothing to do with happiness or being high vibe all the time. It's actually quite simple. You have to accept that you create everything then you really can otherwise you'll experience other factors or fate or variables always bringing you things. There is nothing outside of you. There are no variables. Everything responds to you. The universe responds to you not the other way around. If you believe there are too many variables involved then just stick to that and stay away from manifestation cause the law will only bring you what you believe to be true.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on January 03, 2020, 09:53:31 PM
It's okay, I don't need to believe in it now, years ago I did and I was so into it, it was over the top ridiculous. I use to talk to people, strangers even about it and explain how their lives would change....all that stuff so there is nothing I need to experience. I remember once (ages ago) even contacting a local radio station, who were talking about it at the time, and stupidly telling them it would change their lives if they truly believe. Even during that time when my beliefs were out to the moon and things still were not working, I just told myself to keep at it and to try harder. The next year would show itself, the next year will, or the next. You're right, the 'law' totally brought me what I believed to be true. No one has to convince me, I was already there trying to convince others about the foolish power of LOA.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Arigirl on January 03, 2020, 10:00:09 PM
Manifesting will never work for you if you dont believe it does or if there's forces outside your control. you cant be a conscious creator if you dont accept responsibility for your life. It has nothing to do with happiness or being high vibe all the time. It's actually quite simple. You have to accept that you create everything then you really can otherwise you'll experience other factors or fate or variables always bringing you things. There is nothing outside of you. There are no variables. Everything responds to you. The universe responds to you not the other way around. If you believe there are too many variables involved then just stick to that and stay away from manifestation cause the law will only bring you what you believe to be true.

I disagree, unfortunately, I also am on the fence about manifestation myself. For instance,  my coworker has been diagnosed with a brain tumor, I really don't believe she created that reality for herself with her mindset.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on January 03, 2020, 10:01:27 PM
Manifesting will never work for you if you dont believe it does or if there's forces outside your control. you cant be a conscious creator if you dont accept responsibility for your life. It has nothing to do with happiness or being high vibe all the time. It's actually quite simple. You have to accept that you create everything then you really can otherwise you'll experience other factors or fate or variables always bringing you things. There is nothing outside of you. There are no variables. Everything responds to you. The universe responds to you not the other way around. If you believe there are too many variables involved then just stick to that and stay away from manifestation cause the law will only bring you what you believe to be true.

I disagree, unfortunately, I also am on the fence about manifestation myself. For instance,  my coworker has been diagnosed with a brain tumor, I really don't believe she created that reality for herself with her mindset.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Arigirl on January 03, 2020, 10:23:23 PM
I am also starting to feel that loa can potentially open the road down some pretty dangerous paths for mental, physical, and emotional health. Some things can't just be willed or manifested away,  it's always best to trust in medical professionals when it comes to these issues
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: tshine17 on January 03, 2020, 10:42:05 PM
I feel like if someone believes 100% in loa, he/she hasn’t experienced significant tragedy or trauma. I believe that a lot of life is beyond our control. We can choose how we react or handle those experiences, but there are just some things that loa/positivity/prayer can’t fix. Loa feels like a way for people to feel like they’re in total control of their lives when in actuality, they aren’t. It’s bargaining.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on January 03, 2020, 11:01:30 PM
I feel like if someone believes 100% in loa, he/she hasn’t experienced significant tragedy or trauma. I believe that a lot of life is beyond our control. We can choose how we react or handle those experiences, but there are just some things that loa/positivity/prayer can’t fix. Loa feels like a way for people to feel like they’re in total control of their lives when in actuality, they aren’t.

its actually quite the opposite but please go on because apparently you know everything about everyone LOL. some people dont let their trauma define them, some do and some continue to live in that trauma their entire lives. You can grow or stay stagnant. you can take responsibility or blame everything but yourself. people take responsibility for the good but never the bad. funny how that works. You take responsibility for it all or none. you dont pick and choose. There's always a choice which route to take. I know which one i chose and it made all the difference.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Arigirl on January 03, 2020, 11:16:10 PM
I feel like if someone believes 100% in loa, he/she hasn’t experienced significant tragedy or trauma. I believe that a lot of life is beyond our control. We can choose how we react or handle those experiences, but there are just some things that loa/positivity/prayer can’t fix. Loa feels like a way for people to feel like they’re in total control of their lives when in actuality, they aren’t.

its actually quite the opposite but please go on because apparently you know everything about everyone LOL. some people dont let their trauma define them, some do and some continue to live in that trauma their entire lives. You can grow or stay stagnant. you can take responsibility or blame everything but yourself. people take responsibility for the good but never the bad. funny how that works. You take responsibility for it all or none. you dont pick and choose. There's always a choice which route to take. I know which one i chose and it made all the difference.

So, if I was assaulted/abused by someone I trust, I should take responsibility for their actions? I don't perosnally see the logic in this
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: tshine17 on January 03, 2020, 11:18:54 PM
I feel like if someone believes 100% in loa, he/she hasn’t experienced significant tragedy or trauma. I believe that a lot of life is beyond our control. We can choose how we react or handle those experiences, but there are just some things that loa/positivity/prayer can’t fix. Loa feels like a way for people to feel like they’re in total control of their lives when in actuality, they aren’t.

its actually quite the opposite but please go on because apparently you know everything about everyone LOL.

Or I’m merely stating my opinion like everyone else on this thread. We’re all entitled to our beliefs and opinions. Sarcasm doesn’t encourage intelligent discourse, but thanks? Shrug.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ladya on January 03, 2020, 11:19:12 PM
you guys seem to know what youre talking about so ill let you talk amongst yourselves. im done with this stupidity. I have better things to focus my energy on. toodles. im done with this forum. its a toxic wastebin. im out.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: tshine17 on January 03, 2020, 11:21:18 PM
you guys seem to know what youre talking about so ill let you talk amongst yourselves. im done with this stupidity. I have better things to focus my energy on. toodles.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: LAW1974 on January 03, 2020, 11:26:43 PM
This is such an interesting topic and I completely get why there is so many opinions...  I do believe we can manifest but I also believe honestly that not everyone is capable of doing it!  Also, because free will is being discussed -- many readers (yona being the biggie) do not believe in free will....  personally when i get a reading and a reader says but this can all change because of free will (that gives the reader an out) -- but when they stand behind it because "it is what it is and it's not going to change" it's different!  That is also different but what if when can manifest change????  I dont know -- I would love to be able to manifest just to keep myself on track to live a healthier lifestyle in a more positive light!  But theres too many people out there who have great stories to tell for it not to be possible and so kudos to them I am going to keep trying!  It means I have just not accomplished it yet! 

Someone on here mentioned winning the lottery -- one of the books I read mentions this...   there is a reason that lotteries and gambling dont work for LOA....  it's explained and it makes sense in one of the Hicks books, I cant remember it exactly but google it if you want explanation. 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: LAW1974 on January 03, 2020, 11:30:46 PM
you guys seem to know what youre talking about so ill let you talk amongst yourselves. im done with this stupidity. I have better things to focus my energy on. toodles.

You sound very white.

I just think LoA is a bunch of bunk. Some of us were born on this earth where we have been viciously hated and attacked for the color of our skin or our religious beliefs. I think it's ridiculous to say that these things were manifested because of some negative thought patterns.


ummm -- seriously?   did you just say you sound very white?  that's a very racist statement FYI!   there was nothing racist at all about her comment - lets keep the discussion non-racial, you brought race and religion, not her!  not acceptable!  last i checked she's allowed to be any color on this forum....
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 04, 2020, 02:44:39 AM
i truly understand something opposite will happen when peoole try to apply LOA.
I also don't think sometimes 'this us' created all.

As long as I know,

-Child abuse
-War
-Poverty
-Race descrimination

There is a rough life plan before we are born.

For releasing some Karmas,or learn certain things like love, kindness, patience, etc.
If you read Doroles Cannon's book, you'll find it from Hypnotherapy.

So there are certain events will happen in our life, certain people we will meet.
That is why like Yona believe in some sort of fate.

I actually dreamed of my best friend before I met her in a solo trip, she had the same hair, wearing the same color as I saw in my dream.

It's not like we are positive all the time so nothing negative will happen to our life. It still happens.
But how to react on it, it change paths of our life.

We only have a rough birth plan.
Like when you will get cancer, you would get abbused in your childhood.

And LOA won't work when you are trying sooo hard like' I want that so much so I'm practicing LOA!!'
usually in this case, the outcome will be opposite.
You are trying so hard because you are telling the universe' I don't have it, I want it, I don't have it, I want it!!'.

Anyway, I wasn't a LOA believer before.
However from sometime, I started to manifest things in my life quite often and I got scared.
I went on-line then I found LOA.

And I agree with Ladya, you truly can change everything as long as you truly believe you can change it.

You can go beyong your fate from certain time of your life.
But I don't think people have to, We all have our own path, and it's challenging to overcome painful experiences in our life.
So it's fine.

And yes it is dangerous to practice LOA  because people may attract something opposite.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 04, 2020, 02:46:03 AM
you guys seem to know what youre talking about so ill let you talk amongst yourselves. im done with this stupidity. I have better things to focus my energy on. toodles.

You sound very white.

I just think LoA is a bunch of bunk. Some of us were born on this earth where we have been viciously hated and attacked for the color of our skin or our religious beliefs. I think it's ridiculous to say that these things were manifested because of some negative thought patterns.


ummm -- seriously?   did you just say you sound very white?  that's a very racist statement FYI!   there was nothing racist at all about her comment - lets keep the discussion non-racial, you brought race and religion, not her!  not acceptable!  last i checked she's allowed to be any color on this forum....

Lol right, sure.

You can't talk about LoA and how it's amazing and it works for everyone and those it doesn't work for just has negative beliefs without acknowledging the very real world that exists.

LoA reeks of privilege and 95% of the people out here preaching it and coaching it and writing the books are privileged beyond belief just due to the circumstances of their births.

Oprah Winfrey is Black.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Arigirl on January 04, 2020, 12:52:28 PM
In ycyor philosophy the basic idea is that creating your own reality is what everyone naturally does whether they are aware of it or not. It's not necessarily something you do on purpose to attract or manifest specific things, it's just how life works. The idea is that each person has deep reasons for creating what they choose to experience (value fulfillment) and creating only positive or desirable outcomes typically doesn't satisfy that. Manifesting sometimes falls flat for people because they are actually working against their own value fulfillment. For instance, you might want to manifest help or collaboration on a project, but if you have a deep need to know that you are achieving it through your own efforts, you will probably either block that manifestation, sabotage it, or simply lose interest in it after you get what you want.

In ycyor circles I heard it said many times that a person who is having a difficult experience could choose to change it, that they could even manifest instant healing or transformation, but doing so would probably defeat the purpose of why they created it in the first place. If the person went to the trouble to create that, they have some reason for doing so, which they may not know how to fulfill any other way. And eventually, when that purpose is fulfilled, they gain understanding from it and naturally move on to a different experience.

The way to deliberately alter that experience would be to understand the deeper reasons why you choose to have it, by examining your beliefs. But this process starts with the basic premise that you DO choose your experience...even if you don't totally understand the mechanism of how/why you are choosing it. It's an acceptance that you do choose it somehow, and because you are choosing it, you can choose differently. It's not always easy to accept the idea that you create your experience, and sometimes it could be downright horrifying, yet to accept it opens up the possibility that you can create something different.

Manifestation practices tend to focus on the outcome of creating something different, rather than looking at the underlying beliefs and values that you are already using to form your experience. It works well when you want to manifest things or situations that are already in line with those deeper beliefs, but it's trickier when your beliefs are in conflict. Beliefs in this context are not so much what we say or think we believe, but our most fundamental assumptions about the nature of life, ideas that often rest unquestioned because they are presumed to be a truth.

This is the part of loa that I'm conflicted on and don't necessarily believe. I do believe that we have the power to react to the cards we've been dealt in some instances and this can affect how we move forward through life-- but some things are out of our control individually. Going back to some previous comments in this thread, I know some people who were born with severe disabilities, I know people who were born in bad circumstances beyond their control,  I know people who face hardship nearly everday of their lives because of systematic issues that are out of their hands (opression, discrimination, etc.)--I really struggle to believe they created this reality for themselves. If a child was born with a severe birth defect that causes them to pass away hours after birth, did they manifest their own passing? Did it's mother, or father or siblings? In what ways do other people's thoughts, intentions, manifestations, etc. affect our own thoughts, intentions, and manifestations? These are honestly rhetorical questions that I intend to research more when I have the time
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 04, 2020, 04:44:39 PM
In ycyor philosophy the basic idea is that creating your own reality is what everyone naturally does whether they are aware of it or not. It's not necessarily something you do on purpose to attract or manifest specific things, it's just how life works. The idea is that each person has deep reasons for creating what they choose to experience (value fulfillment) and creating only positive or desirable outcomes typically doesn't satisfy that. Manifesting sometimes falls flat for people because they are actually working against their own value fulfillment. For instance, you might want to manifest help or collaboration on a project, but if you have a deep need to know that you are achieving it through your own efforts, you will probably either block that manifestation, sabotage it, or simply lose interest in it after you get what you want.

In ycyor circles I heard it said many times that a person who is having a difficult experience could choose to change it, that they could even manifest instant healing or transformation, but doing so would probably defeat the purpose of why they created it in the first place. If the person went to the trouble to create that, they have some reason for doing so, which they may not know how to fulfill any other way. And eventually, when that purpose is fulfilled, they gain understanding from it and naturally move on to a different experience.

The way to deliberately alter that experience would be to understand the deeper reasons why you choose to have it, by examining your beliefs. But this process starts with the basic premise that you DO choose your experience...even if you don't totally understand the mechanism of how/why you are choosing it. It's an acceptance that you do choose it somehow, and because you are choosing it, you can choose differently. It's not always easy to accept the idea that you create your experience, and sometimes it could be downright horrifying, yet to accept it opens up the possibility that you can create something different.

Manifestation practices tend to focus on the outcome of creating something different, rather than looking at the underlying beliefs and values that you are already using to form your experience. It works well when you want to manifest things or situations that are already in line with those deeper beliefs, but it's trickier when your beliefs are in conflict. Beliefs in this context are not so much what we say or think we believe, but our most fundamental assumptions about the nature of life, ideas that often rest unquestioned because they are presumed to be a truth.

This is the part of loa that I'm conflicted on and don't necessarily believe. I do believe that we have the power to react to the cards we've been dealt in some instances and this can affect how we move forward through life-- but some things are out of our control individually. Going back to some previous comments in this thread, I know some people who were born with severe disabilities, I know people who were born in bad circumstances beyond their control,  I know people who face hardship nearly everday of their lives because of systematic issues that are out of their hands (opression, discrimination, etc.)--I really struggle to believe they created this reality for themselves. If a child was born with a severe birth defect that causes them to pass away hours after birth, did they manifest their own passing? Did it's mother, or father or siblings? In what ways do other people's thoughts, intentions, manifestations, etc. affect our own thoughts, intentions, and manifestations? These are honestly rhetorical questions that I intend to research more when I have the time

There is birth plan we born from a certain race certain family, certain people to encounter, certain things to learn.
Based on the setting, we can make changes with our own creation power.
If we have stronger belief, we even can alter the plan.

If you read Doroles Cannon's(Hypnotherapist) book you will find it out.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 04, 2020, 04:47:45 PM
you guys seem to know what youre talking about so ill let you talk amongst yourselves. im done with this stupidity. I have better things to focus my energy on. toodles. im done with this forum. its a toxic wastebin. im out.

Hughug ladya, sending love to you.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 06, 2020, 06:28:11 AM
I don't think that the comments posted saying that we can choose to let trauma overtake us are fair. We can't control how trauma will affect us. Sorry for any potential triggers but this is a serious discussion.. Is a rape victim supposed to overcome their traumas and issues from their ordeal? Some people are stuck in trauma. We aren't all these spiritual law attraction turned gurus. Some people just have very bad luck in life and whenever they are happy things go wrong for them and they keep getting knocked down. I firmly believe that your childhood defines you at least in small ways. I have an experience to post, but it is so long. I just don't think it's right when people say that we need to not let trauma stunt our growth, do you all not think people want to be happy better people after their horrific abuse and traumas?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 06, 2020, 06:45:36 AM
I agree with some of the previous comments on here, by the way. My childhood has shaped me into who I am, and the events which have happened. If a child has a bad childhood and people go around saying that in their adulthood they manifest negative things because of their mindset, how is that the adult's fault? The adult can't control what happened in their childhood to make them who they are now. I could have therapy and be in a better place, but I had not a great childhood I'll be honest and I'll never be 100%, ever. I'll always be a little shy or have confidence issues and what I've found is with law of attraction or manifesting it stressed me even more because I felt at fault for having low confidence but I couldn't help feeling that way. Like other comments have said - do people who get cancer get it because of their negativity, or children starve and die because they didn't manifest thinking about food?

I've "let go" of multiple men and they still did not come back to me or magically influence them to have feelings for me and be happily ever after. Some things you cannot control no matter what. Every single one of us on this forum has an ex we wouldn't take back for a million dollars for various reasons, yet people are saying we can manifest anyone we want back. There was a reader I spoke to who told me that people who die of cancer young is because they have such negativity in them it grows like a mould would in themselves. Scary..

Sorry but I've had a completely different experience to others on here.

I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood. Then literally next sentence she told me that I'll never be perfect and 100% from my traumas as nobody is and I can improve but don't expect to be perfectly happy and confident in myself as naturally anybody will never get over traumas completely. I found LOA contradictory and I couldn't win. People get really defensive over it and there's always an excuse for it. I think we are dealt with what we have and we cannot control it. We can't force an ex to love us and come back, we can't go through life dancing on hills and thinking it's all rainbows and flowers and I can hand on heart say I've met nasty evil people when I was in a good place and they came and wrecked things for me.

I actually find the more negative I am about things the more they turn out in my favour. The more I hold out a hope for things, more often than not - the outcome is not in my favour. As an example I'm talking to a guy and the more I think things will go well between us and he seems great for me, it doesn't work out and he turns out to be a dick. If I'm laid back with a guy and don't put too much hope into the situation with him the more unexpected I feel the more things seem to progress.

If I've been invited to a party and I get excited, the person cancels it for whatever reason. If I have the mindset that the party may not happen and act "not so bothered" about it, the party happens. Positive thinking has only worked for me in terms of it's healthy instead of being so negative all of the time.

Hi Star, please take my apology first because I may make you upset.

I've read some of your post and I actually thought you must had a bad childhood.
I know you are around 20 years old? You are already reading for years for multiple exes, which means you may had some attachment issue...

[I've been in a really happy, confident content place and met some arseholes in my life, and a LOA coach told me that it's because I still have underlying issues from my childhood.]
>A real happy confident self respective woman will not invite any assholes into their life.
They will walk away immedeately when they find some red flags, they don't make excuse.

I assume you do a self healing that will help you on identifying a good man or a jerk, because you must deserve the best man to treat you right.

My best friend had a bad childhood, her mom was self observed and her father was violent.
She is a very beautiful girl but was bullied at school, she always dated somebody didn't treat her right.
At the same time she is a very independent girl, but she has attachment issue.

She is working on self healing now to wait for being ready for a good relationship.

I highly reccomend that, I think what you need is not yet praticing LOA but make a base to be ready to attract something positive.
What is deeper on your mind( As Ladya said your dominant belief) is negative, so if you start to make changes here,your manifestation will be something positive.
 :-*

Right.... so by this logic you're all saying what?

That the sweet innocent child who doesn't know any better manifested all of the shitty things that happened to them and affected the rest of their lives because of limiting negative beliefs?

Or is manifestation and LoA just some magic potion and power that kicks in in adulthood? *insert eye roll emoji here*

Yeah, I'm not even gonna reply to the above user. Abuse can happen to anybody, I've known really happy women who had good upbringings get involved with guys who abused them slowly and grinded down their confidence. Abusers are very clever and manipulative, I've heard that line get tossed out so much that it only happens to people with low self esteem or people who are low in esteem get attracted to abusers. If a child has a shitty childhood then of course when they become an adult they always will carry things from their childhood (their most important learning years of their life) into their adulthood. People who believe in LOA I respect that for whatever reason it works for them or they believe it, but they know my beliefs on it and LOA preachers aren't perfect either. Nobody is. We all are humans and some things are out of our control. I've had experiences to prove that things are out of our control and set in stone.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 06, 2020, 07:44:39 AM
I don't think that the comments posted saying that we can choose to let trauma overtake us are fair. We can't control how trauma will affect us. Sorry for any potential triggers but this is a serious discussion.. Is a rape victim supposed to overcome their traumas and issues from their ordeal? Some people are stuck in trauma. We aren't all these spiritual law attraction turned gurus. Some people just have very bad luck in life and whenever they are happy things go wrong for them and they keep getting knocked down. I firmly believe that your childhood defines you at least in small ways. I have an experience to post, but it is so long. I just don't think it's right when people say that we need to not let trauma stunt our growth, do you all not think people want to be happy better people after their horrific abuse and traumas?

Hi star, we can work on ourself let go the trauma or be with somebody adores us to heal our childhood trauma.

It is totally not fair to have childhood trauma, how dare those adults did such things to a small kid?
I think so' too.

But this is what it is. Then people will chose either way to deal with it.
You may chose the other way is there going to be somebody show up and treat you that good then help you to heal.

But I understand you.
And I don't think LOA is necessary. We were talking about LOA simply because this is LOA thread.

I wasn't saying you are wrong.
I wish you'll have everything you want.

And one last thing I'd say is,

>happy women who had good upbringings get involved with guys who abused them slowly and grinded down their confidence

If they got abused once and they left, then good, if they allow the guys abuse them twice, or even further, it's their fault.
No matter the abussive men is whatever clever, don't allow them to do it. Don't allow a jerk to take them down.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 06, 2020, 12:32:59 PM
I don't think that the comments posted saying that we can choose to let trauma overtake us are fair. We can't control how trauma will affect us. Sorry for any potential triggers but this is a serious discussion.. Is a rape victim supposed to overcome their traumas and issues from their ordeal? Some people are stuck in trauma. We aren't all these spiritual law attraction turned gurus. Some people just have very bad luck in life and whenever they are happy things go wrong for them and they keep getting knocked down. I firmly believe that your childhood defines you at least in small ways. I have an experience to post, but it is so long. I just don't think it's right when people say that we need to not let trauma stunt our growth, do you all not think people want to be happy better people after their horrific abuse and traumas?

Hi star, we can work on ourself let go the trauma or be with somebody adores us to heal our childhood trauma.

It is totally not fair to have childhood trauma, how dare those adults did such things to a small kid?
I think so' too.

But this is what it is. Then people will chose either way to deal with it.
You may chose the other way is there going to be somebody show up and treat you that good then help you to heal.

But I understand you.
And I don't think LOA is necessary. We were talking about LOA simply because this is LOA thread.

I wasn't saying you are wrong.
I wish you'll have everything you want.

And one last thing I'd say is,

>happy women who had good upbringings get involved with guys who abused them slowly and grinded down their confidence

If they got abused once and they left, then good, if they allow the guys abuse them twice, or even further, it's their fault.
No matter the abussive men is whatever clever, don't allow them to do it. Don't allow a jerk to take them down.

I don't believe in LOA, I've had firsthand experiences and I (like you), do believe things are set in stone. I do hope that you respect my beliefs, and thanks for not being so forceful as other members can be. I respect you are a huge advocate of law of attraction and manifesting and that it has worked for you, the thing is you can put 20 people in a room. Some will have proof of free will (that no fate, no manifesting can ultimately change an outcome because people can do what they wish and people's actions are out of their control), fate (no matter what, the outcome will happen without being altered), or LOA. People will always have their own experiences and beliefs.

LadyA has been very forceful with her beliefs in the past and pushed them on to me, yet when people asked her questions or their opinions differ to hers the other day, she flounces off of the forum in a huff and deletes her account calling this forum garbage. Not very LOA behaviour.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 06, 2020, 12:56:59 PM
I don't think that the comments posted saying that we can choose to let trauma overtake us are fair. We can't control how trauma will affect us. Sorry for any potential triggers but this is a serious discussion.. Is a rape victim supposed to overcome their traumas and issues from their ordeal? Some people are stuck in trauma. We aren't all these spiritual law attraction turned gurus. Some people just have very bad luck in life and whenever they are happy things go wrong for them and they keep getting knocked down. I firmly believe that your childhood defines you at least in small ways. I have an experience to post, but it is so long. I just don't think it's right when people say that we need to not let trauma stunt our growth, do you all not think people want to be happy better people after their horrific abuse and traumas?

Hi star, we can work on ourself let go the trauma or be with somebody adores us to heal our childhood trauma.

It is totally not fair to have childhood trauma, how dare those adults did such things to a small kid?
I think so' too.

But this is what it is. Then people will chose either way to deal with it.
You may chose the other way is there going to be somebody show up and treat you that good then help you to heal.

But I understand you.
And I don't think LOA is necessary. We were talking about LOA simply because this is LOA thread.

I wasn't saying you are wrong.
I wish you'll have everything you want.

And one last thing I'd say is,

>happy women who had good upbringings get involved with guys who abused them slowly and grinded down their confidence

If they got abused once and they left, then good, if they allow the guys abuse them twice, or even further, it's their fault.
No matter the abussive men is whatever clever, don't allow them to do it. Don't allow a jerk to take them down.

I don't believe in LOA, I've had firsthand experiences and I (like you), do believe things are set in stone. I do hope that you respect my beliefs, and thanks for not being so forceful as other members can be. I respect you are a huge advocate of law of attraction and manifesting and that it has worked for you, the thing is you can put 20 people in a room. Some will have proof of free will (that no fate, no manifesting can ultimately change an outcome because people can do what they wish and people's actions are out of their control), fate (no matter what, the outcome will happen without being altered), or LOA. People will always have their own experiences and beliefs.

LadyA has been very forceful with her beliefs in the past and pushed them on to me, yet when people asked her questions or their opinions differ to hers the other day, she flounces off of the forum in a huff and deletes her account calling this forum garbage. Not very LOA behaviour.


Hi Star, thanks for your reply.
I'm glad that you understand I respenct you don't believe in LOA.

I have attracted something really good and also something reaaalllyyy bad.(Like losing loads of money etc...almost lost job etc...just terrible...)So I worked on my belief.  but anyway...this is for us believers.
I believe in LOA and also believe in fate, something set in stone, we all have our beliefs, as long as we will get where we want to go, I think life can be great!

And Ladya I have talked to her from massaging she was a great person, I think she truly believe LOA(And did worked for her really well:)  will bring good to your life so she seemed a little bit forceful.

Big hug to you and I wish all the best to you! :)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on January 06, 2020, 09:27:30 PM
I agree with some of this too. Being too forceful with your views won't get you anywhere. It 's just an example of you feeling you are right and everyone else is wrong.

I don't understand why some things work for some people and some things don't. Life has always been that way. I was getting acupuncture once and I mentioned to the rep how it works greats for me and then I asked why she wasn't seeing more people. She told me point blank it didn't work for some people or they were not receptive to it for one reason or another. It doesn't mean anyone else is wrong, it just means they need to find another alternative until something does work for them.  The same with LOA and I was very into it in the beginning but that petered off after months of trying once I found that it was not as effective as it should have been.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 07, 2020, 11:37:59 AM
I agree with some of this too. Being too forceful with your views won't get you anywhere. It 's just an example of you feeling you are right and everyone else is wrong.

I don't understand why some things work for some people and some things don't. Life has always been that way. I was getting acupuncture once and I mentioned to the rep how it works greats for me and then I asked why she wasn't seeing more people. She told me point blank it didn't work for some people or they were not receptive to it for one reason or another. It doesn't mean anyone else is wrong, it just means they need to find another alternative until something does work for them.  The same with LOA and I was very into it in the beginning but that petered off after months of trying once I found that it was not as effective as it should have been.

Yeeaahh. I don't get why and how people have varied experiences. If LOA, free will and fate entertwine, or the universe tricks us on purpose to keep us on our feet wondering, but who knows.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 07, 2020, 11:04:21 PM
And one last thing I'd say is,

>happy women who had good upbringings get involved with guys who abused them slowly and grinded down their confidence

If they got abused once and they left, then good, if they allow the guys abuse them twice, or even further, it's their fault.
No matter the abussive men is whatever clever, don't allow them to do it. Don't allow a jerk to take them down.

Abusive behavior is the fault of the abuser no matter how many times it happens. Abusers often gaslight their victims so they don't have the strength or clarity of mind to walk away. Narcissistic abuse is especially indisidious because it gradually erodes a person's sense of self and can take a long time to recognize the behavior for what it is. Abusers tend to slowly test or push the boundaries to see what they can get away with. There is no 'once' or 'twice' it's more like slowly turning the heat up.

Hi Still Tired, I think when you are aware it, it becomes the 'twice', it doesn't count.
My parents are abusers it took me years and years to know it.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on January 08, 2020, 05:33:36 AM
Oh yes I totally understand this because so many things that work for other people do not help me at all and vice versa. I have always thought about trying acupuncture but I have a feeling it would be really wrong for me.

Sometimes people get really gung ho about things that work for them and they believe it would be good for anyone. Or else they think if you tried it and it didn't work for you then you must be doing it wrong. That's been a common attitude here about LOA and also about psychic readings.

I believe the main purpose of life is that we individuate from source energy and that's why we all have such different experiences. It develops individuality and trust in self. Ultimately no matter what works for others, all you can do is go with what works for you. It isn't always easy to find it but the process of finding it helps us trust ourselves more.
Absolutely, great points.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on January 19, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
I'm beginning to believe that fate versus manifesting and free will all link in and some times we have a choice of any of them. My aunt was homeless for a while and stayed at a long term pal's house who was really creepy from the off, she knew him for years but staying at his till she found some where found he was so controlling with her, wanting to know what shopping she got or where she was going to and who she was seeing. One night they had a huge row cuz he was complaining at her, and she snapped and went off to bed to leave them space, she had a dream that night that he came in to her room and grabbed her by the neck, and she woke up real freaked out, my aunt messaged a pal about it and she had the same dream that my aunt got grabbed and hurt by this dude, and woke up the same time as my aunt. She technically exercised her free will, decided to leave, and stay at her pals, and leave the creepy dude's place.

My dad was driving home one day from work, and off the bat he decided to go in to the grocery shop on the way home for no real reason, not planning on getting any thing in paticular. There was a DUI that sped down the highway and crashed in to another car, and killed the poor driver, if my dad hadn't had this decision to go grocery shopping, he may have died that day and maybe it was some sort of fate he did? Who knows? There's a thread on Reddit called 'glitch in the matrix' and people discuss replays, like, seeing their sibling slip and falls down the stairs, and seconds later the sibling actually comes out of their room and falls down the stairs, so that's why I think there is a mix up of things we can and can't control
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 19, 2020, 10:38:22 PM
I'm beginning to believe that fate versus manifesting and free will all link in and some times we have a choice of any of them. My aunt was homeless for a while and stayed at a long term pal's house who was really creepy from the off, she knew him for years but staying at his till she found some where found he was so controlling with her, wanting to know what shopping she got or where she was going to and who she was seeing. One night they had a huge row cuz he was complaining at her, and she snapped and went off to bed to leave them space, she had a dream that night that he came in to her room and grabbed her by the neck, and she woke up real freaked out, my aunt messaged a pal about it and she had the same dream that my aunt got grabbed and hurt by this dude, and woke up the same time as my aunt. She technically exercised her free will, decided to leave, and stay at her pals, and leave the creepy dude's place.

My dad was driving home one day from work, and off the bat he decided to go in to the grocery shop on the way home for no real reason, not planning on getting any thing in paticular. There was a DUI that sped down the highway and crashed in to another car, and killed the poor driver, if my dad hadn't had this decision to go grocery shopping, he may have died that day and maybe it was some sort of fate he did? Who knows? There's a thread on Reddit called 'glitch in the matrix' and people discuss replays, like, seeing their sibling slip and falls down the stairs, and seconds later the sibling actually comes out of their room and falls down the stairs, so that's why I think there is a mix up of things we can and can't control

Hi Jag I think what you wrote here can kind of describe how psychics see things.
They see things happen before some of our intuition can feel it.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 19, 2020, 10:51:21 PM
In last two weeks I manifested some money.

I dontated some money and it made me very happy. I didn't expect anything in return. but just felt I want to do more.
Then the next day, I felt a inpuse to sell my two rings on-line.
I uploaded pics and details about the rings on-line and surprise, they were sold in unexpected high price(twice price than I spent), right away.
The speed was so fast I rarely see it happens in that on-line shop.

There was another manifestation was last October.

I had a strong inpuse to go to Berlin, the museum island, Pergamon museum.
I just felt so good of imaginating being there, so I went there, in a particular week, just that week I could take day off.

The day I was standing in front the Pergamon museum, I felt a inpulse to buy some British Pounds( I do foreign exchange tradings), then in the museum, the radio wave was so bad I couldn't check how the pound went up or down.

Usually if I made positions once I win, I sell the position right away, but I couldn't check my phone so I was enjoying the museum.

Then an hour later, I checked my phone and just that one hour, British pound went up like crazy.
I made 10000$ that day.
That trip cost me 3000$.

However when I fear losing money, I lose money from nowhere.( Like car accident LOL)
There is definitely something.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Yaz88 on January 19, 2020, 10:52:38 PM
Every now and again, if I tell myself that the exact opposite of what I want to happen is going to happen, the thing that I want to happen actually happens.  For instance, I know that if I pout about something, like no one likes me, no one cares about me, a bunch of things will happen to disprove that.  I wouldn’t think that the universe would reward me for being a brat, but each time it does.  Maybe those things were going to happen anyway?  I don’t know.  Maybe it’s a backward way of manifesting by detaching?  Like I know it’s not true, so it’s my deep rooted thought coming from my higher self that is manifesting and not my bratty ass ego? 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 19, 2020, 11:00:21 PM
Every now and again, if I tell myself that the exact opposite of what I want to happen is going to happen, the thing that I want to happen actually happens.  For instance, I know that if I pout about something, like no one likes me, no one cares about me, a bunch of things will happen to disprove that.  I wouldn’t think that the universe would reward me for being a brat, but each time it does.  Maybe those things were going to happen anyway?  I don’t know.  Maybe it’s a backward way of manifesting by detaching?  Like I know it’s not true, so it’s my deep rooted thought coming from my higher self that is manifesting and not my bratty ass ego?

Hi Yaz I think if you have a particular pattern of things happening, probably this is the way you' manifest' or how 'things happen in your life', I feel we all have some sort of ' how things happen in our life pattern'.

Like me is feeling inpuse doing something:)
Then I usually get something valuable.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Yaz88 on January 19, 2020, 11:10:36 PM
Every now and again, if I tell myself that the exact opposite of what I want to happen is going to happen, the thing that I want to happen actually happens.  For instance, I know that if I pout about something, like no one likes me, no one cares about me, a bunch of things will happen to disprove that.  I wouldn’t think that the universe would reward me for being a brat, but each time it does.  Maybe those things were going to happen anyway?  I don’t know.  Maybe it’s a backward way of manifesting by detaching?  Like I know it’s not true, so it’s my deep rooted thought coming from my higher self that is manifesting and not my bratty ass ego?

Hi Yaz I think if you have a particular pattern of things happening, probably this is the way you' manifest' or how 'things happen in your life', I feel we all have some sort of ' how things happen in our life pattern'.

Like me is feeling inpuse doing something:)
Then I usually get something valuable.

I know what you mean.  When I follow my intuition, beautiful things happen.  Like if my intuition tells me to go somewhere out of the blue or someplace I’ve never been, and I follow it, something significant happens or I meet someone who I consider as a soul connection.  My friend always says to the universe “princess parking spot” when he wants to find a close parking spot.  It worked every time for him.  I do the same sometimes, and when I do, it works 95% of the time.  Sometimes I like to park far away though, so I won’t use it.  Parking “away” from the crowd is an introvert thing. 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 19, 2020, 11:15:34 PM
Every now and again, if I tell myself that the exact opposite of what I want to happen is going to happen, the thing that I want to happen actually happens.  For instance, I know that if I pout about something, like no one likes me, no one cares about me, a bunch of things will happen to disprove that.  I wouldn’t think that the universe would reward me for being a brat, but each time it does.  Maybe those things were going to happen anyway?  I don’t know.  Maybe it’s a backward way of manifesting by detaching?  Like I know it’s not true, so it’s my deep rooted thought coming from my higher self that is manifesting and not my bratty ass ego?

Hi Yaz I think if you have a particular pattern of things happening, probably this is the way you' manifest' or how 'things happen in your life', I feel we all have some sort of ' how things happen in our life pattern'.

Like me is feeling inpuse doing something:)
Then I usually get something valuable.

I know what you mean.  When I follow my intuition, beautiful things happen.  Like if my intuition tells me to go somewhere out of the blue or someplace I’ve never been, and I follow it, something significant happens or I meet someone who I consider as a soul connection.  My friend always says to the universe “princess parking spot” when he wants to find a close parking spot.  It worked every time for him.  I do the same sometimes, and when I do, it works 95% of the time.  Sometimes I like to park far away though, so I won’t use it.  Parking “away” from the crowd is an introvert thing.

Yeah exactly! There is definately something beautiful and invisible.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Yaz88 on January 19, 2020, 11:17:12 PM
i have to agree with you Yaz, for me LOA does not work at all, but in fact the opposite happens. i have a friend who believes in LOA and gave me the book "The Secret," and I read the book and tried all the techniques that worked and nothing. but over the years when i expect what i want to not have happen, it happens. even with predictions from readers, when i try to manifest them using LOA it doesn't work, but if i just laugh them off they come to pass.

but as someone has said before, we are all different, and different techniques or philosophies work for some and not for others. thats what makes us individuals-bc life would be boring if we were all the same.

as far as what ES mentioned before about manifesting money...

I've been donating money and things for a few years now. for many many years i've been donating money to the ASPCA on a monthly basis. and at the supermarket when they are collecting money for the vets or food drive, i always donate money at check out for the charities. I also clean out my closet once a year at least and donate all those clothes. and by doing all these good deeds i've never manifested money. maybe it hasn't happened bc i'm not using actively using LOA in my mind...but by physically donating isn't that ultimately doing what you need to do to get money back in return-without mentally manifesting it? just an fyi, i don't donate my money and clothes for the purpose of getting anything back, i do it bc i'm good a person and want to help. but i'm just bring it up for argument's sake of what es had posted earlier in the thread.

I totally am in the same boat as you as far as LOA and how it affects money and love.  If I think the opposite of what I want is going to happen, the thing I want to happen is what happens.  This is different than following my intuition.  This is if I start worrying that I’m broke, or that the universe is going to turn off the faucet (so to speak), unexpected blessings appear and I’m not broke.  When I think something is a doomed disaster, like one of my cases is going south and is about to crash and burn, there’s some unexpected change for the better.  Whenever I’ve tried to manifest by acting like I already have the thing I want, it blows up in my face.  It’s like the universe thinks I’m being cocky or something.  I don’t know, but it’s a fail.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 19, 2020, 11:19:36 PM
i have to agree with you Yaz, for me LOA does not work at all, but in fact the opposite happens. i have a friend who believes in LOA and gave me the book "The Secret," and I read the book and tried all the techniques that worked and nothing. but over the years when i expect what i want to not have happen, it happens. even with predictions from readers, when i try to manifest them using LOA it doesn't work, but if i just laugh them off they come to pass.

but as someone has said before, we are all different, and different techniques or philosophies work for some and not for others. thats what makes us individuals-bc life would be boring if we were all the same.

as far as what ES mentioned before about manifesting money...

I've been donating money and things for a few years now. for many many years i've been donating money to the ASPCA on a monthly basis. and at the supermarket when they are collecting money for the vets or food drive, i always donate money at check out for the charities. I also clean out my closet once a year at least and donate all those clothes. and by doing all these good deeds i've never manifested money. maybe it hasn't happened bc i'm not using actively using LOA in my mind...but by physically donating isn't that ultimately doing what you need to do to get money back in return-without mentally manifesting it? just an fyi, i don't donate my money and clothes for the purpose of getting anything back, i do it bc i'm good a person and want to help. but i'm just bring it up for argument's sake of what es had posted earlier in the thread.

Hi Mrrrrh, yeah I feel the same as donating, I do donations like you do and never though of any returns, just want to help people.
I found when I attract money, it was the time I felt full and wealthy.
Probably donation sometimes make me feel wealthy, or sometimes a expensive bracelet makes me feel wealthy then that one helped me attracting money.
I feel it may not be donation, but the ' feeling of abundance attracts more money'.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Yaz88 on January 19, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
Lol mrrrrh, glad I’m not the only one who experiences this!  LOA works in reverse for me.  I will say that so long as I follow my intuition, what’s meant to happen happens and I feel in alignment with the universe. 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 19, 2020, 11:26:41 PM
i have to agree with you Yaz, for me LOA does not work at all, but in fact the opposite happens. i have a friend who believes in LOA and gave me the book "The Secret," and I read the book and tried all the techniques that worked and nothing. but over the years when i expect what i want to not have happen, it happens. even with predictions from readers, when i try to manifest them using LOA it doesn't work, but if i just laugh them off they come to pass.

but as someone has said before, we are all different, and different techniques or philosophies work for some and not for others. thats what makes us individuals-bc life would be boring if we were all the same.

as far as what ES mentioned before about manifesting money...

I've been donating money and things for a few years now. for many many years i've been donating money to the ASPCA on a monthly basis. and at the supermarket when they are collecting money for the vets or food drive, i always donate money at check out for the charities. I also clean out my closet once a year at least and donate all those clothes. and by doing all these good deeds i've never manifested money. maybe it hasn't happened bc i'm not using actively using LOA in my mind...but by physically donating isn't that ultimately doing what you need to do to get money back in return-without mentally manifesting it? just an fyi, i don't donate my money and clothes for the purpose of getting anything back, i do it bc i'm good a person and want to help. but i'm just bring it up for argument's sake of what es had posted earlier in the thread.

Hi Mrrrrh, yeah I feel the same as donating, I do donations like you do and never though of any returns, just want to help people.
I found when I attract money, it was the time I felt full and wealthy.
Probably donation sometimes make me feel wealthy, or sometimes a expensive bracelet makes me feel wealthy then that one helped me attracting money.
I feel it may not be donation, but the ' feeling of abundance attracts more money'.

ok, thanks for explaining!

Thanks, as you said I believe the way things work differs from different people.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on January 20, 2020, 12:17:09 AM
For the moment, I haven't had much experience of manifesting major things and I'm very open, but at the same time skeptical of every thing, getting addicted to readings has gotten me down the manifesting loa avenue, and I'm open to trying it so I can at least say I tried it and it did or didn't work in my favor but I find it more positive than before when I wasn't invested in any of it, I find it therapeutic in ways
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on January 20, 2020, 12:21:18 AM
i have to agree with you Yaz, for me LOA does not work at all, but in fact the opposite happens. i have a friend who believes in LOA and gave me the book "The Secret," and I read the book and tried all the techniques that worked and nothing. but over the years when i expect what i want to not have happen, it happens. even with predictions from readers, when i try to manifest them using LOA it doesn't work, but if i just laugh them off they come to pass.

but as someone has said before, we are all different, and different techniques or philosophies work for some and not for others. thats what makes us individuals-bc life would be boring if we were all the same.

as far as what ES mentioned before about manifesting money...

I've been donating money and things for a few years now. for many many years i've been donating money to the ASPCA on a monthly basis. and at the supermarket when they are collecting money for the vets or food drive, i always donate money at check out for the charities. I also clean out my closet once a year at least and donate all those clothes. and by doing all these good deeds i've never manifested money. maybe it hasn't happened bc i'm not using actively using LOA in my mind...but by physically donating isn't that ultimately doing what you need to do to get money back in return-without mentally manifesting it? just an fyi, i don't donate my money and clothes for the purpose of getting anything back, i do it bc i'm good a person and want to help. but i'm just bring it up for argument's sake of what es had posted earlier in the thread.
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Have you found any you tube videos worked for you instead of the the Secret? I was sent some good vids by users, I prefer reading more personal views by down to earth you tubers
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on January 20, 2020, 12:42:39 AM
i have to agree with you Yaz, for me LOA does not work at all, but in fact the opposite happens. i have a friend who believes in LOA and gave me the book "The Secret," and I read the book and tried all the techniques that worked and nothing. but over the years when i expect what i want to not have happen, it happens. even with predictions from readers, when i try to manifest them using LOA it doesn't work, but if i just laugh them off they come to pass.

but as someone has said before, we are all different, and different techniques or philosophies work for some and not for others. thats what makes us individuals-bc life would be boring if we were all the same.

as far as what ES mentioned before about manifesting money...

I've been donating money and things for a few years now. for many many years i've been donating money to the ASPCA on a monthly basis. and at the supermarket when they are collecting money for the vets or food drive, i always donate money at check out for the charities. I also clean out my closet once a year at least and donate all those clothes. and by doing all these good deeds i've never manifested money. maybe it hasn't happened bc i'm not using actively using LOA in my mind...but by physically donating isn't that ultimately doing what you need to do to get money back in return-without mentally manifesting it? just an fyi, i don't donate my money and clothes for the purpose of getting anything back, i do it bc i'm good a person and want to help. but i'm just bring it up for argument's sake of what es had posted earlier in the thread.
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Have you found any you tube videos worked for you instead of the the Secret? I was sent some good vids by users, I prefer reading more personal views by down to earth you tubers


i'm gonna be honest, after trying it out i just realized LOA wasn't for me and found that it works opposite for me, and i'm okay with it. so i havent really been interested in checking out any videos

Yup, totally agree it's not for every one, I'm kinda new to it myself
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on January 20, 2020, 04:05:13 AM
I've been doing some exercises lately with the goal of curbing readings.

It makes me feel like I have some element of control over a situation in which I have little actual control... which is what partly prompts me to get readings, this feeling of trying to reclaim some control.

I started with the Lanie Stevens stuff a couple of months ago.  I can't say I've seen any specific results, but I don't think it's hurting either.  In the last few days, with the guidance of someone on this board, I've been doing different visualizations -- more about me and POI feeling happy and content together (getting specific with all aspects of the scene in my mind -- sights, smells, the location, season) rather than the Lanie suggestions of imagining the POI saying everything you want him to say to you.  This to me feel more authentic than Lanie's approach.

We can either choose to live in fear or live with trust.  I think of LOA as linked with trust.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 20, 2020, 10:32:12 PM
I know people on here talk about manifesting money and jobs, etc. But I still find it very hard to believe that you can manifest someone back into your life. Sometimes we miss someone but they have no feelings or intentions to ever talk to us again and we deep down have to accept that. If I'm honest with myself, I miss someone I was reading over last year and keep thinking back to him sometimes worse than other times, but there's nothing I can do. I've reached out, I can't manipulate him to contact me or like me again. If people truly believe we can manifest people back, that means someone could be influencing you, someone who you may hate or who did bad to you, maybe abused you if that makes sense, and they could be trying to manifest you to come back to them when you really don't want to. It's a bit of a scary concept to me and another reason of why I'm skeptical of all this. I got addicted 2 years ago on someone and believe me I did all the manifesting and LOA I was told to by readers and nothing happened, he didn't come back or get feelings for me... You can't force or influence someone to come forth, you have to sometimes with certain situations accept that they won't be a part of your life anymore and that hurts but what can you do? I just find it hard to believe that you can manifest any past POI back.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 21, 2020, 03:15:43 AM
Star it works like this

There are different parallel reality and numerical you and him.
In this parallel timeline he is not with you but in another parallel timeline he is with you.
If you shift to the 'him with you' parallel timeline, eventually you will bump into him or get contacted with him.
I know several people successfuly back with their ex used this ' parallel reality shifting'.

I myself had experience of connected my daughter from different parallel reality by phone, so this is true.

I won't say it works for everybody, but these people I know, how they did it, they wasn't 'wanting to be back' but they pretented the ex is already in their life.
Eat with the ex, walk with the ex, talk with the ex, it sounds crazy right, then the ex came back.

This is the parallel reality shifting and I know them in person.
but anyway, so, it's not you are influenced by anybody, there are many different realities.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Fidget1028 on January 21, 2020, 03:57:55 AM
ES1281 please dont go into the deep end again  :P

Why are you so insulting lately? Every post you're going off at people.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on January 21, 2020, 04:12:36 AM
I do see Star's point and have wondered myself about all of this... like, I'm sure there are a lot of people with stage 4 cancer who would like to "manifest" a cancer free life.  And let's be real -- I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who have tried to manifest their ex back and just have not been successful.  I don't think all of these people did it "wrong."

For me, it's more about living in trust rather than fear.  It is a choice and when I try manifesting or visualization, I'm choosing trust.  I would love to say that I fully believe in manifesting... I do think maybe it can work, just like I think that maybe some people have some psychic ability.  But overall I feel it's a way for me to feel more control over my decisions and at peace rather than binging on psychic readings.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 21, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
ES1281, thank you for your reply and explanations, but I still just don't believe we can manifest anybody we like back into our world. As people damn know lol, I'm a huge advocate in things being set in stone because 2 years ago I was addicted all year to someone and had a premonition the year before when I very last saw him that I would never see him again and that would be it, and it was right all along but I tried to ignore it in denial, I thought in his free will or LOA could change things but I've never had a feeling so strong, we never did meet again or have contact again. No reader saw this, either. I've also had another premonition which happened about a couple in my family splitting by Christmas once, it happened with no free will or timescales extending. It happened just as the premonition saw. So I will always believe that at least some things cannot be controlled by any force. You're talking about me and him in a parallel timeline - what if we are not in any timeline together at all, and it's never meant to be?

RussianRed, thank you for seeing my viewpoint. Perhaps the things we manifest into our lives were meant for us anyway, like certain jobs or certain exes returning.. Perhaps they were going to be a part of our life anyway? I personally believe in contracts before we are born which many people don't, I believe we choose our parents before we are born and the life lessons we experience are already set we choose or get chosen for somehow, to learn and gain experience. In this life you may choose for example to have luck with money, but your relationships aren't so great and are challenging. So perhaps that's why people have luck with getting money, perhaps it was meant for them anyway? I will never personally believe in LOA because it's never worked for me and I've seen enough in my life that I couldn't control things which happened, I tried to believe in LOA and be open minded but as you say - did children who get abused or die of cancer manifest that? I've had some bad things happen to me, did I deserve that because of what I sent out? I know personally if someone or something is meant for me they will cross my path again, but I don't want to manipulate someone to come back into my life if they don't really want to or aren't supposed to.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: britbrat on January 21, 2020, 03:19:36 PM
Those who believe that we can manifest people back into our lives does that mean you think we have the ability to control their freewill? Isn't it more likely than not that person was possibly going to come back on their own? I have had 2 ex's come back into my life. Interestingly enough it was after break ups. Maybe it was because I was vulnerable at the time? 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on January 21, 2020, 04:16:39 PM
Star - Yes, I get your viewpoint, but I also choose to continue to practice manifesting (I think of it as more visualizing) because, as I wrote in my message, I think of it as a practice where I am choosing trust over fear.  I try to choose every day to believe that my situation with POI will work out rather than thinking of all the reasons it won't.   I DO think there is something to putting "positive energy" out there about a situation rather than fearful and negative energy.  First, it's better for my own headspace!  Second, I think injecting negativity into a cosmic relationship between two people just might affect the outcome.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 21, 2020, 06:23:07 PM
Star - Yes, I get your viewpoint, but I also choose to continue to practice manifesting (I think of it as more visualizing) because, as I wrote in my message, I think of it as a practice where I am choosing trust over fear.  I try to choose every day to believe that my situation with POI will work out rather than thinking of all the reasons it won't.   I DO think there is something to putting "positive energy" out there about a situation rather than fearful and negative energy.  First, it's better for my own headspace!  Second, I think injecting negativity into a cosmic relationship between two people just might affect the outcome.

See this is what confuses me, my experience is completely different. The more hopeful and positive I am in situations, the more they have tended to go wrong for me. The more I am casual and don't put my heart into things or expect the worse, the better the outcome usually is for me.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: sparky on January 21, 2020, 06:26:48 PM
Star - Yes, I get your viewpoint, but I also choose to continue to practice manifesting (I think of it as more visualizing) because, as I wrote in my message, I think of it as a practice where I am choosing trust over fear.  I try to choose every day to believe that my situation with POI will work out rather than thinking of all the reasons it won't.   I DO think there is something to putting "positive energy" out there about a situation rather than fearful and negative energy.  First, it's better for my own headspace!  Second, I think injecting negativity into a cosmic relationship between two people just might affect the outcome.

See this is what confuses me, my experience is completely different. The more hopeful and positive I am in situations, the more they have tended to go wrong for me. The more I am casual and don't put my heart into things or expect the worse, the better the outcome usually is for me.

Star I am the same way.  When I tend to be more hopeful and positive in a situation.  The opposite usually happens.  It has gotten to the point that I just plan for the worst and just hope for the best but keep it out of sight and mind as possible.  Maybe that is why I haven't won the lottery yet.  I keep thinking about what I would do with all those winnings.  For my manifesting maybe I should think of all the negatives and I would win. lol
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on January 21, 2020, 06:47:37 PM
That's fair... someone else said that further up in the thread too, that expecting a negative actually helps.  For me, I feel that I'm just in a better mindset... lighter... happier... when I can trust that the universe will give me what I desire and need.  It's a challenge for me because that is NOT my default.  I'm usually quite pessimistic.  But with my current situation and POI, I feel better when I trust rather than expect that it won't work out.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 21, 2020, 08:38:10 PM
Star - Yes, I get your viewpoint, but I also choose to continue to practice manifesting (I think of it as more visualizing) because, as I wrote in my message, I think of it as a practice where I am choosing trust over fear.  I try to choose every day to believe that my situation with POI will work out rather than thinking of all the reasons it won't.   I DO think there is something to putting "positive energy" out there about a situation rather than fearful and negative energy.  First, it's better for my own headspace!  Second, I think injecting negativity into a cosmic relationship between two people just might affect the outcome.

See this is what confuses me, my experience is completely different. The more hopeful and positive I am in situations, the more they have tended to go wrong for me. The more I am casual and don't put my heart into things or expect the worse, the better the outcome usually is for me.

Star I am the same way.  When I tend to be more hopeful and positive in a situation.  The opposite usually happens.  It has gotten to the point that I just plan for the worst and just hope for the best but keep it out of sight and mind as possible.  Maybe that is why I haven't won the lottery yet.  I keep thinking about what I would do with all those winnings.  For my manifesting maybe I should think of all the negatives and I would win. lol

Lol it's funny because people wonder why I'm generally so negative, and admittedly it isn't healthy but it seems to somehow work 😂
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Star_01 on January 21, 2020, 08:39:29 PM
That's fair... someone else said that further up in the thread too, that expecting a negative actually helps.  For me, I feel that I'm just in a better mindset... lighter... happier... when I can trust that the universe will give me what I desire and need.  It's a challenge for me because that is NOT my default.  I'm usually quite pessimistic.  But with my current situation and POI, I feel better when I trust rather than expect that it won't work out.

I'm glad you've found what works for you and empowers you, being positive is more healthy and refreshing so I've no clue why negativity works for me but the universe is a strange old thing.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 21, 2020, 10:58:34 PM
ES1281 please dont go into the deep end again  :P

Why are you so insulting lately? Every post you're going off at people.
Haha thanks Fidget, that's very nice of you!
I don't really mind  :P
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on January 21, 2020, 11:01:33 PM
ES1281, thank you for your reply and explanations, but I still just don't believe we can manifest anybody we like back into our world. As people damn know lol, I'm a huge advocate in things being set in stone because 2 years ago I was addicted all year to someone and had a premonition the year before when I very last saw him that I would never see him again and that would be it, and it was right all along but I tried to ignore it in denial, I thought in his free will or LOA could change things but I've never had a feeling so strong, we never did meet again or have contact again. No reader saw this, either. I've also had another premonition which happened about a couple in my family splitting by Christmas once, it happened with no free will or timescales extending. It happened just as the premonition saw. So I will always believe that at least some things cannot be controlled by any force. You're talking about me and him in a parallel timeline - what if we are not in any timeline together at all, and it's never meant to be?

RussianRed, thank you for seeing my viewpoint. Perhaps the things we manifest into our lives were meant for us anyway, like certain jobs or certain exes returning.. Perhaps they were going to be a part of our life anyway? I personally believe in contracts before we are born which many people don't, I believe we choose our parents before we are born and the life lessons we experience are already set we choose or get chosen for somehow, to learn and gain experience. In this life you may choose for example to have luck with money, but your relationships aren't so great and are challenging. So perhaps that's why people have luck with getting money, perhaps it was meant for them anyway? I will never personally believe in LOA because it's never worked for me and I've seen enough in my life that I couldn't control things which happened, I tried to believe in LOA and be open minded but as you say - did children who get abused or die of cancer manifest that? I've had some bad things happen to me, did I deserve that because of what I sent out? I know personally if someone or something is meant for me they will cross my path again, but I don't want to manipulate someone to come back into my life if they don't really want to or aren't supposed to.

Hi Star

I totally get what you said.

These people I know manifested their ex back how they did it was they created the parallel timeline of them being together.
However as you said, I also know some people worked on the same then they met somebody better.
I believe in what you said there are certain events might already pre-destinised in our life, I also believe we some sort can create life we wanted.(Depends on our belief and life experiences so each thought is correct I feel)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on February 10, 2020, 09:13:08 PM
I just gasped at how much jasmine from manifest your specific person on YouTube charges. I lately love her explanation on not changing anyone free will, and parallel thinking ... but then I looked up her coaching fees and my goodness is she still a crook? I forget which video she says how she use to be psychic and got into law of attraction instead, cut through the root. She’s like snotty mean girl cheerleader to your negative thoughts...
but I also been looking at the coaching fees for Joseph alai, Amanda from create your own future, Veronica and I get that they are popular, however, how “professional” and “certified” are they? At least illuminatingjoy is not taking clients, and I love to follow her on Instagram, so it gives a mystery effect. But has anyone tried a law of attraction coach? And was it worth it?

Or is this just another thing to replace answers outside myself?
How much does Jasmine charge or did I miss that?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on February 10, 2020, 09:51:52 PM
I actually had to blink a couple of times so my eyesight would clear, since obviously I'm seeing things. $2-4k for what? This isn't being pricey, it's being a thief and committing highway robbery.
And she is offering what?

I find it so outrageous and annoying when people who claim they want to help, aren't really helping...just taking advantage.

It's very interesting though to read her page. She is all about herself.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: HornetKick on February 10, 2020, 11:33:33 PM
I'm not beating up on you by any means because she does sound happy, healthy, and over the top with manifesting. Her prices are not for the faint of heart though. And whether she is actually manifesting or not, she is selling 'hope' that you will believe you will be manifesting. Her gains and/or manifesting is derived from those that pay her, so of course it looks as if she is living her dream.

Her writing style is like she is happy in manifesting and she is going to make you happy in manifesting, no matter what, but there are strictly no refunds. Plus selling 'hope' is the main driving factor behind those multi-level marketing companies. She sounds really normal, but what I can't get on board with is the cost, because what happens if nothing from her teachings manifest for me. What if I'm cursed and she didn't see it from the beginning (I'm just stretching), and I'm out a lot of money.

The 4 The Win, Manifesting One Month SUCCESS Package includes 4 Sessions A Week for 4 Weeks. It is a whopping $7,000.

Just blew me away honestly.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on February 11, 2020, 12:08:39 AM
I just gasped at how much jasmine from manifest your specific person on YouTube charges. I lately love her explanation on not changing anyone free will, and parallel thinking ... but then I looked up her coaching fees and my goodness is she still a crook? I forget which video she says how she use to be psychic and got into law of attraction instead, cut through the root. She’s like snotty mean girl cheerleader to your negative thoughts...
but I also been looking at the coaching fees for Joseph alai, Amanda from create your own future, Veronica and I get that they are popular, however, how “professional” and “certified” are they? At least illuminatingjoy is not taking clients, and I love to follow her on Instagram, so it gives a mystery effect. But has anyone tried a law of attraction coach? And was it worth it?

Or is this just another thing to replace answers outside myself?

Hi I watch videos on youtube and I really don't think a coach deserve this much money.

I think Veronica Isles and her books are good enough.
I use to hire a very popular LOA coach and well...not so much difference with what is on youtube.
If you have any questions about LOA you can just ask Amanda or Veronica and then they will answer you in their new videos.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on February 11, 2020, 12:10:16 AM
I'm not beating up on you by any means because she does sound happy, healthy, and over the top with manifesting. Her prices are not for the faint of heart though. And whether she is actually manifesting or not, she is selling 'hope' that you will believe you will be manifesting. Her gains and/or manifesting is derived from those that pay her, so of course it looks as if she is living her dream.

Her writing style is like she is happy in manifesting and she is going to make you happy in manifesting, no matter what, but there are strictly no refunds. Plus selling 'hope' is the main driving factor behind those multi-level marketing companies. She sounds really normal, but what I can't get on board with is the cost, because what happens if nothing from her teachings manifest for me. What if I'm cursed and she didn't see it from the beginning (I'm just stretching), and I'm out a lot of money.

The 4 The Win, Manifesting One Month SUCCESS Package includes 4 Sessions A Week for 4 Weeks. It is a whopping $7,000.

Just blew me away honestly.

$7000 is like she's all about money.
Manifestation definately doesn't deserve that much.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on February 11, 2020, 08:18:13 AM
I've been getting in to manifesting after people's private recomendations and mainly curiousity, I mostly watch you tube videos, it's supposed to be a free access tool of support and positivity, mixed in with others experiences of manifesting. It really irks me when coaches dollar power every thing and makes it out to look tacky and disingenuous, manifesting is all about supporting others and  using and un locking your own tools we all have access to, I'd much rather watch the you tube videos for free knowing it comes from a more genuine place and I'm not gambling anything than pay thousands of bucks to a money grabbing coach, I'm still on the fence about manifesting and haven't yet had much experience of it, or proof yet, so there's no way I'd tamper with sending money knowing a refund is not possible. Go on you tube, and you can experiment for free and in more varied ways which you find work for you with this area
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: cinderella on February 25, 2020, 06:16:31 PM
I once was talking to a guy I met through a friend on fb. We live in different states so it was online. Before we had hit it off, I thought oh he’s cute and sorta imagined I was dating him. I didn’t think it would ever happen. One night he messaged me and thus we started talking. Things went to crap later on and he removed me from fb. I kept thinking he’d come back and imagined it. Granted it still went wrong and we never dated but eventually stayed friends. I don’t know if I manifested that or not. Because I never had it happen with any other guy I liked. ( I’m not trying to manifest it again. There’s a different guy I’m heartbroken over. I’m just wondering if I had somehow actually manifested or what. It was strange)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on February 26, 2020, 03:47:25 AM
I was looking through old posts last night (I do this sometimes for little nuggets of wisdom) and I forgot the exact words and the thread, but someone had posted about how the WHEN and HOW questions are ones from negative and frustrated energy and how continued focus on those rather than TRUSTING in the OUTCOME will impede progress.  Psychic readings keep us in the when and how mentality.  That's one reason why we feel that psychic readings mess with us... I feel borderline sick when I get off the phone with a reader now because I feel that my energy focus has shifted from at least trying to trust to trying to pin down the specifics.

What do you all think?  Manifesting should be from a place of detachment and trust and not relentlessness and control.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: beachgal214 on February 26, 2020, 01:20:16 PM
yes red!! I feel the same sickening pit.  totally agree the goal is detachment and trust and faith that ALL is working out. It really is!!! 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on February 27, 2020, 04:48:52 AM
I don't know if I believe in actually being able to manifest something, and I agree that there is a lot of coincidence at play there (e.g., "manifesting" a text msg).  But I do believe in energy and I think the when and how questions come from a controlling space whereas a belief in the situation playing itself out the way it should happen allows the energy to flow more freely.  I think of "detachment" as not being sucked in by the controlling, frustrated, hovering, anxious energy that is the same energy that led me to binge in the past.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: beachgal214 on February 27, 2020, 06:18:34 PM
I look at detachment as simply not caring about the end result.  for instance there are many things I once cared strongly about and now no longer feel the attachment.  so maybe its a different word but I liken it to detachment in this context. like once I feel that sense of "this is not impacting me" then I feel as though I have detached. maybe I truly haven't, or maybe its an entirely concept altogether, which is fine. its just the semantic I use to try and get myself out of a place of feeling lack in a certain area and a genuine "letting go". 

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on February 27, 2020, 10:25:11 PM
I look at detachment as simply not caring about the end result.  for instance there are many things I once cared strongly about and now no longer feel the attachment.  so maybe its a different word but I liken it to detachment in this context. like once I feel that sense of "this is not impacting me" then I feel as though I have detached. maybe I truly haven't, or maybe its an entirely concept altogether, which is fine. its just the semantic I use to try and get myself out of a place of feeling lack in a certain area and a genuine "letting go".

This is really interesting.  I guess I look at it a little differently, maybe because of my situation. ;)  For me detachment means that I am not so mentally fixated at all times on the end result being what I want and demanding details of when and how and why.  However, I just don't think I can realistically not care about the end result, at least not now and probably not any time within the next couple of months.  I keep trying to think of it as hoping that the situation will play out as I want it to but also trusting that I will be given what I need by the universe even if it is not the end result I'm hoping for.

I guess this is getting off the topic of manifesting... like I said above, I don't know if I believe that you can manifest things or an end result, really.  But I do think that releasing some of the "stagnant" (as Pink said) and controlling energy can help to clear whatever blockage may be in the way between you and the result you desire.

I think detachment can also mean straight-up not caring anymore.  Sigh, in some ways it would be nice to have already arrived at this point, but it's so difficult to get there...
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on March 21, 2020, 04:25:50 AM
i just visualize for 10 mins and act as if it's already came true. and/or get a picture of what you're wanting and keep it in the car or on your bathroom mirrior.

Cool! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on March 23, 2020, 02:42:12 AM
I really enjoyed some of the latest videos from Jasmine and Veronica. (And according to illuminatingjoy’s Instagram it seems like she’ll be coming out with a new video soon.) But the repeated messages I am getting from their videos is being ok with what’s here now, not being hung up on timing, and finding your own way of acceptance... while that’s the gist of it doing it when you’re in it, of course way harder to do than just say. Even if one is not manifesting finding that really sink in- be ok with what’s here... for me I just felt like that message really sunk again today and again.


https://youtu.be/Or-4g334Qis

Yeah I agree I watch their videos a lot' too.
I think now is one of the best time to feel ok with what is here now...
Because at least most of us are safe taying at home.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on March 23, 2020, 05:30:38 AM
I really enjoyed some of the latest videos from Jasmine and Veronica. (And according to illuminatingjoy’s Instagram it seems like she’ll be coming out with a new video soon.) But the repeated messages I am getting from their videos is being ok with what’s here now, not being hung up on timing, and finding your own way of acceptance... while that’s the gist of it doing it when you’re in it, of course way harder to do than just say. Even if one is not manifesting finding that really sink in- be ok with what’s here... for me I just felt like that message really sunk again today and again.


https://youtu.be/Or-4g334Qis

I've only watched a few minutes so far, but I like the message of acceptance.

We often talk about having to "accept reality" or accept a situation for what it is -- but I liked that she was also talking about accepting our own emotions, even if that emotion is pain.

One basic therapeutic concept is that the more we fight how we feel, judge how we feel ("I shouldn't feel this way"), attempt to live in denial of how we feel -- all it's doing is giving the emotion more power over us.

The more that we can tell ourselves that yes, we feel hurt, in pain, upset, anxious... but it's OK that we feel that way and the feelings won't last forever... the more quickly we can detach.

In the last few days, I've actually been wondering if it's "detachment" I seek as much as a feeling of control over a situation.  Not control from a negative, frustrated, hovering standpoint (the one that made me binge on readings), but more a feeling of -- I can handle this.  I am OK.  POI, POI's actions, and the situation do not CONTROL me.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: beachgal214 on April 04, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
I look at detachment as simply not caring about the end result.  for instance there are many things I once cared strongly about and now no longer feel the attachment.  so maybe its a different word but I liken it to detachment in this context. like once I feel that sense of "this is not impacting me" then I feel as though I have detached. maybe I truly haven't, or maybe its an entirely concept altogether, which is fine. its just the semantic I use to try and get myself out of a place of feeling lack in a certain area and a genuine "letting go".

This is really interesting.  I guess I look at it a little differently, maybe because of my situation. ;)  For me detachment means that I am not so mentally fixated at all times on the end result being what I want and demanding details of when and how and why.  However, I just don't think I can realistically not care about the end result, at least not now and probably not any time within the next couple of months.  I keep trying to think of it as hoping that the situation will play out as I want it to but also trusting that I will be given what I need by the universe even if it is not the end result I'm hoping for.

I guess this is getting off the topic of manifesting... like I said above, I don't know if I believe that you can manifest things or an end result, really.  But I do think that releasing some of the "stagnant" (as Pink said) and controlling energy can help to clear whatever blockage may be in the way between you and the result you desire.

I think detachment can also mean straight-up not caring anymore.  Sigh, in some ways it would be nice to have already arrived at this point, but it's so difficult to get there...

I liked that - was re reading this and really resonates!!! I am in alignment with that - that maybe we cant manifest end results but that releasing some stagnant energy can clear blockages. 
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 07, 2020, 09:14:16 AM
I've been practicing LOA and I feel I'm being pretty good these days.

I found as so many LOA coaches and books explain,
'focus on what we want' instead of 'what we don't' is the most important point.

Just always tihnk about what we want and stop thinking aobut what we don't.
Always imagine the end result.

After the imagination stay happy, when you start to think about what you don't want, shift your thought with watching a funny movie, call your friend etc.
I've been doubtful for years but now I'm almost have trust and faith in manifestation.

Here is what I manifested from March

-A decent guy interested in a serious relationship with me.

-Several things I want to buy in the price I decided( usually 30% to 40% off).

i decide the price, and imagine wearthing those jewelleries or cloths with smile, then I let go.
Several days later they come up in sale price way lower than the market price from webstores etc.

Even they are vintage stuff out of stock, they will be there.
I always get them with the price lower than I decided or somebody will buy the stuff for me then I didn't have to pay.

-I set intention to be recognized by management team.

Two weeks later I had three times recognition from several our management team ( including ED) that was astonishing.
Because I have never been recognized in front of our team in my career life.
I hasn't done anything special.

-A flower bouquet from my current partner

I intentioned to receive rose from my current partner though it's not my birthday nor valentine's day.
The several days later we had a bad fight, she baught rose bouquet to say sorry when he was home at night.

-Increasing income my partner and me
I started to treat my partner as he makes huge money.
Then several days later his investment accont started to make way more than before.
( He is more focused after he was treated like somebody really rich)

I had a large order from my customer my bonus tremendously increased.

--------------------------------------
I found it's like a game, we just practice, imagine the end result and live happy, stop focusing on anything we don't want.
then Bam! things flow into our life.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 08, 2020, 12:17:07 PM
Thanks! I'll watch her video and practice more:)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Lo12345 on April 08, 2020, 08:31:23 PM
What techniques do you like or work for you!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 09, 2020, 04:11:20 PM
Thanks! I'll watch her video and practice more:)

I think you're doing everything right! ES! If you found rhythm and alignment, stick with it!!!

And for me it feels like my mind is blown- how often do I call a psychic because I am assuming I am doing something wrong... to try and fix it either with my people pleasing or it feels wrong. I really don't care if people choose to believe in LOA (also another mind blowing concept its choice!) these videos are just a tool. I am happy to share what techniques are out there and am working on. But I do know for me, there are freaky things in the works with manifestation related to the state of my mind, but I also don't think it will fulfill my spirituality side either. (I struggle also too with this concept of "I am God" because -eap that is blasphemous with my christian upbringing, even though there also Catholicism and candles and ok some witchy stuff.) But I am happy to share what techniques are out there and am working on. There isn't a cookie cutter size that one size fits all.

Thanks Pinkamena, I believe we all have the best way for' us' to manifest what we want, I think after several manifestation experiences we will get the ' feeling' that how we can make it happen.
Please share here if you manifested anything, real experience is always encouraging!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 09, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
What techniques do you like or work for you!

For me there are three techniques.

1. Set an intention, imagine the end result.
Like if I want a payraise I imagine my manager came to tell me I got a payraise, feel the happy feeling.

if I want a jewellery or a bag, imagine I'm wearing the necklace, using my favorite bag and how happy I feel.

If I want somebody to say something to me, I imagine they are telling me that in one person view, which means imagine this person is standing infront of me and telling me what I want to hear.
Feel the feeling.

2.Live as happy as I can. Always focus on what i want, or focus on the positive side of life.
Intention can be set multiple times, also can be set once, anyway it is coming.

3. When negative thoughs come to my mind, I repeat' thank you, I love you.' for hundreds of times.
You don't have to feel any emotions when you are doing self talking, but it will bring you out from negtivity, like a magic.
You can try, it really works and will bring in what you want faster.


Today i manifested a little payraise.
And I don't know why, really, several weeks ago I set an intention that my managements will really like me, support me, and Bam!
It happened. Now my manager and director support me, like me, rom no where!

Always imagine the end result, live happy, when your mind is drawn to negative, repeat positive words.
Can be anything but thank you and I love you truly help.

I hope it helps!
Happy manifesting!

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 09, 2020, 04:23:37 PM
About manifesting love...

Just what I use is

Imagine there is a man inside of you. Can be an random man or can be your POI.
Because how men treat you is basically how you value(treat) your self, it is a reflection I believe.

He is gorgeous, generous, kind, funny, and the most important part is he treats you like a queen or princess.
(The way you like)
like the most beautiful treasure in the world.

Then start to let this man treat you like this.
Imagine him talking to you like,
'You are beautiful'
' You are the only woman for me'
'You are love of my life'
'You are my girlfriend'
'Please marry me'

Eventually if you had any attitudes attract bad guys, or probably you think you aren't good enough for good guys, these habits will go away automatically.
You probably start to act differently, dress differently, then there will be some decent guy show up and truly like you and want to say the words that you've been talking to your self.

For some girls they get those words right away, it depends on your previous relationship with yourself and with men.
Your POI may come back, or change his attitude, or you may meet a beautiful stranger who is better than your POI.

I tried and worked.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: JAG20 on April 27, 2020, 11:12:24 AM
I've found that nothing worked love-prediction wise but manifesting and the subject of law of attraction is good or seems to help with positivity. I don't even expect anything to come from it any more if that makes any sense but it's helped my mind set compared to what it used to be
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 27, 2020, 06:36:22 PM
I think LOA is way better than psychic readings because LOA is something happening every seconds and what we need to do is practice how to control our intentions.
Why psychic reading works for some ppl but don’t work for some others, because 1. Most of ppl don’t know how to use power of thoughts, 2. Some ppl has strong vibe they can change the outcome with their focusing on particular things.
This is my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on April 28, 2020, 06:35:13 AM
I think what is important about LOA is we attract what we believe we deserve.

The most part we need to work on is our' belief'.
Once the belief is changed then things will turn around.

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on April 28, 2020, 06:54:09 PM
For anyone who is interested, I really like the "Manifest It Now" podcast. I've actually worked with Ginny and have seen specific manifestations in terms of career and money. Just thought I'd throw out the recommendation!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: staircasewondering on May 03, 2020, 04:37:48 PM
For as long as I could remember as a child I knew how to easily manifest things, especially things relating to money or food. Not sure why but I knew I could get things easily as a child when I thought about it and once I let go or forgot about it I would get it. My parents calls it luck but I didn’t know it was called manifesting until last year when Joseph Alai’s video popped into my video feed. Today I use Joseph Alai’s and Neville Goddard’s methods which are simpler manifesting techniques for me.

I don’t manifest regularly for various reasons but last year for fun, I intentionally tested if I could manifest a few contest wins at a trade show I attend yearly. I entered 4 different contests and this trade show is attended by at least 150,000+ people over a weekend. Well my intentions worked and I won 2 out of the 4 contests I entered. I ended up winning $350 worth of prepaid gift cards, software and year supply of frozen food. I don’t always write down my manifestations but I always have belief in the manifestation will happen so it makes it easier to let go and go on with life.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on May 06, 2020, 05:24:04 AM
For as long as I could remember as a child I knew how to easily manifest things, especially things relating to money or food. Not sure why but I knew I could get things easily as a child when I thought about it and once I let go or forgot about it I would get it. My parents calls it luck but I didn’t know it was called manifesting until last year when Joseph Alai’s video popped into my video feed. Today I use Joseph Alai’s and Neville Goddard’s methods which are simpler manifesting techniques for me.

I don’t manifest regularly for various reasons but last year for fun, I intentionally tested if I could manifest a few contest wins at a trade show I attend yearly. I entered 4 different contests and this trade show is attended by at least 150,000+ people over a weekend. Well my intentions worked and I won 2 out of the 4 contests I entered. I ended up winning $350 worth of prepaid gift cards, software and year supply of frozen food. I don’t always write down my manifestations but I always have belief in the manifestation will happen so it makes it easier to let go and go on with life.

This is really cool, yeah manifesting is everywhere!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Racquel43 on May 07, 2020, 05:27:01 PM
Wanted to add to the conversation about my experience with Joseph Alai’s videos. Reflecting on these past few months made me realize how right he was. I came upon this thread around January of this yr and started watching his videos and doing things he recommended. It worked almost instantaneously. Soon I found out that my ex began putting things into motion for us to be together, checking to make sure I am available before making his move. I did something to ruin that after getting readings - I told him things that were true but that I would’ve had no way of knowing if not for readings. I brought the spiritual knowledge into my reality. I realized I did the opposite of what Joseph Alai stated. I didn’t follow the natural progression of events and made my manifestation end abruptly and harshly. I am going to try his method one last time but properly this time and see how it works.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Lo12345 on May 07, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Wanted to add to the conversation about my experience with Joseph Alai’s videos. Reflecting on these past few months made me realize how right he was. I came upon this thread around January of this yr and started watching his videos and doing things he recommended. It worked almost instantaneously. Soon I found out that my ex began putting things into motion for us to be together, checking to make sure I am available before making his move. I did something to ruin that after getting readings - I told him things that were true but that I would’ve had no way of knowing if not for readings. I brought the spiritual knowledge into my reality. I realized I did the opposite of what Joseph Alai stated. I didn’t follow the natural progression of events and made my manifestation end abruptly and harshly. I am going to try his method one last time but properly this time and see how it works.

Can i ask what videos you really liked or what techniques you tried and saw progress
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Carmendiaz on May 07, 2020, 07:00:25 PM
Does manifestation really work? I am really interested in trying it but wanted to hear from you guys if you ve had any success stories . Feel free to pm, would love to how it worked and your stories :)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: staircasewondering on May 08, 2020, 10:20:43 PM
For as long as I could remember as a child I knew how to easily manifest things, especially things relating to money or food. Not sure why but I knew I could get things easily as a child when I thought about it and once I let go or forgot about it I would get it. My parents calls it luck but I didn’t know it was called manifesting until last year when Joseph Alai’s video popped into my video feed. Today I use Joseph Alai’s and Neville Goddard’s methods which are simpler manifesting techniques for me.

I don’t manifest regularly for various reasons but last year for fun, I intentionally tested if I could manifest a few contest wins at a trade show I attend yearly. I entered 4 different contests and this trade show is attended by at least 150,000+ people over a weekend. Well my intentions worked and I won 2 out of the 4 contests I entered. I ended up winning $350 worth of prepaid gift cards, software and year supply of frozen food. I don’t always write down my manifestations but I always have belief in the manifestation will happen so it makes it easier to let go and go on with life.

Again love love love this!!!
Lol! It almost sounds like illuminatingjoy! Which I love her and joseph Alai (yay! He’s back! And love his message about mental illness, no regrets) and many others... i think is is such a great topic! the first thing I manifested as a kid... or I knew I was on to something!

...For me, something freaky I manifested was when I was in kindergarten and wanting to be student of the month on my birthday month for the whole grade class out 120 kids. And I didn’t realize how freaky weird that was until after ...but for 7 years straight I got this award all my grade school years! Not only did I get this award every year but I always got it on my birthday month! This award was to honor the most “well behaved” student in every class and all the kids had go to our monthly assembly to honor the kids in every class (there 3-4 separate classes), and my dad would always show up, but I’d “pretend” to be embarrassed “ugh cause he showed up with his big ol’ 90s videocamera and would film me.” I would also get this gift certificate for a free pizza like at dominos or ice cream, and this always happened. I mean as a kid my goals back then were free pizza on my birthday month! And for 7 years straight! Lol! And it’s so weird cause I always just felt so shiny and on this vibration path and thinking “oh it’s my birthday month I’m definitely gonna get this award!” And it wasn’t until junior high I realized these awards weren’t always given to every kid, and it wasn’t always on their birthday month, and out of a class of 120 separated by 30-40 kids only 3-4 were given to the kids homeroom class. (Again it wasn’t until junior high my bubble bursted and I talked to other kids who didn’t get one... and then I felt bad for being conceited stuck up brat about this. Lol!) and did I mention I did this for 7 years straight! (kindergarten, 1st grade, 2nd... all the thru to 6th grade!) And for me what I remember most is just feeling “high”, and “in the zone” and so sure and confident and joyful! But also relaxed! And being able to let things go too!

I started this year, around Jan/feb to keep a log on my phone notes in chart about the things I manifested intentionally and not intentionally and I realize I do get into vibrational highs, that snowball into amazing miracles, that my family also looks at me like I’m lucky ... but I also know when I’m depressed I feel like I’m pushing and pushing for a thing, it is so tiring! - but then there are these moment, like quantum leaps, where it’s effortless, on this vibration, and I realized this, this is the feeling of awareness, of being conscious where I can manifest anything... and since keeping a journal I see when I’m depressed, I’m not aware... and it’s ok to push, and it’s ok to be tired and it’s ok to not be awake... it happens. You will get tired. I get tired from this approach when I’m not in that zone. (Manifest jasmine in her past videos talks about this) So for me, my most effortless manifestation are from this place, manifesting as a kid, it’s remembering how to get into that vibrational zone...

Again so so so glad you posted this!!! Cause I make mental note about it and continue to share!

PS illuminatingjoy has a video on teaching kids to manifest... and I’ve been afraid to mention this cause I kinda got a shout out from her 🙈 (no seriously) ... but it is freaky good, ive been meaning to share this story but scared to expose myself yet you know what ... it’s fine let me know if you find me on Instagram ... either she’s a witch or I do know how to manifest big stuff or both! It’s fine!

Yep, I used Amy’s aka illuminatingjoy techniques to win the contests and it works for me. Actually the week she posted the video was the same week as the trade show I went to and I put a manifesting plan into motion lol.




Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Tiggymo37 on May 11, 2020, 10:52:22 AM
So, I've been stepping away from readings and just meditating and doing some manifestation stuff recently (and by recently I literally mean within the past week).

Thought I'd share some cool hits I've had. On May 8th, I wrote out a little list of some things I want to manifest and on it I put (among others):

"Someone tells me they love me"


So! I'm not very close with my 'nuclear' family i.e., mom, dad, brother, sister and I hadn't heard from any of them in over a month. But two days ago my stepdad texted me to say "I love you!" which was nice. I then remembered that I put it on my list!

"I receive an unexpected gift/present"

I was just chilling, puttering around my house this morning when my doorbell rang. I couldn't remember if I was expecting a package or not but I answered the door anyways and there was a really heavy package for me.

Took it inside and it was a gift of two really nice bottles of wine! I just started laughing because I was a bit stunned that this manifested. When I think about it as well this had to have been ordered on the day I wrote my list.

That one was the big confirmation I needed - now I'm super excited about the rest of my list manifesting.

In my general email reading from Kisha she said:

"Within the next 9 months or the month of September you will be in a very peaceful place mentally, emotionally and feel like everything is aligned in your life. You will be in a happy place romantically and the guide is saying specifically there is a support system in place. The guide is saying that you are “receiving blessings from spoken words”. This means that you will be putting out what you want from the universe and basically speaking your desires into existence. Depending on your spiritual/religious beliefs some people may refer to this as answered prayers or receiving manifestations. Either way your desires are being heard and you will receive the confirmation in due time."

Which is super interesting

Love this!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Sparkle002 on May 11, 2020, 01:34:37 PM
So, I've been stepping away from readings and just meditating and doing some manifestation stuff recently (and by recently I literally mean within the past week).

Thought I'd share some cool hits I've had. On May 8th, I wrote out a little list of some things I want to manifest and on it I put (among others):

"Someone tells me they love me"


So! I'm not very close with my 'nuclear' family i.e., mom, dad, brother, sister and I hadn't heard from any of them in over a month. But two days ago my stepdad texted me to say "I love you!" which was nice. I then remembered that I put it on my list!

"I receive an unexpected gift/present"

I was just chilling, puttering around my house this morning when my doorbell rang. I couldn't remember if I was expecting a package or not but I answered the door anyways and there was a really heavy package for me.

Took it inside and it was a gift of two really nice bottles of wine! I just started laughing because I was a bit stunned that this manifested. When I think about it as well this had to have been ordered on the day I wrote my list.

That one was the big confirmation I needed - now I'm super excited about the rest of my list manifesting.

In my general email reading from Kisha she said:

"Within the next 9 months or the month of September you will be in a very peaceful place mentally, emotionally and feel like everything is aligned in your life. You will be in a happy place romantically and the guide is saying specifically there is a support system in place. The guide is saying that you are “receiving blessings from spoken words”. This means that you will be putting out what you want from the universe and basically speaking your desires into existence. Depending on your spiritual/religious beliefs some people may refer to this as answered prayers or receiving manifestations. Either way your desires are being heard and you will receive the confirmation in due time."

Which is super interesting

This is AMAZING!!! I do this myself and I’ve had so many hits over the past 2 years (I journal what comes to me in meditation and it almost is 100 percent correct) in addition i do get premonitions, visions and impressions that have come to pass. What’s weird is i can do it for myself and never tried on anyone else. (I’ve also been told by many that i have those gifts lol)

In my reading with Yona April 2018 she told me that I would get a bunch of premonitions and I did!

I love when we can harness this power within ourselves - so so cool!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Tiggymo37 on May 11, 2020, 04:18:19 PM
So I dabble in and out of manifesting lol I used to be more proactive about it but had trouble letting go. It’s funny because my advisors always say I do it naturally. I definitely need to start journaling again. A couple of weeks ago I asked for confirmation that my guides are with me and I’m on the right path. I said my confirmation would be seeing a feather. Well I started seeing the damn things all over so I figured maybe that was too easy. Last week I decided my confirmation would be a yellow car. In my area Ive never seen one lol for some reason everyone has white it silver cars mostly. Anyways, today I pulled into work and what do I see! A yellow car and it belonged to my boss lol. Nobody even knew he had one. We were all asking questions like where did this come from and he said it’s been sitting in his garage undriven forever and he randomly decided to bring it to work today. I was so excited but couldn’t tell anyone lol.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on May 14, 2020, 12:50:20 AM
Hi everyone!
So, as some know, I'm very new to my manifestation journey. However, I just wanted to share that I feel momentum building.

Here are some things I've manifested in the past week or so:
- newly painted house...I was supposed to get this done about 3 years ago but then I was offered to have it painted as a gift from my parents. They got a 2 for 1 deal on a rental house they own near me and my house. I got all my rooms painted for free!
- new knife set...out of no where my dad mentioned he had an extra knife set that I could "buy" from him for $1 (superstitions and all about gifting someone a knife set). no idea why he had an extra knife set but I had mentioned that I wanted to buy myself a new set and he just happened to have an extra he didn't need.
- Basil...I was setting up my garden and I could not find basil plants at the home improvement store in the gardening section. Instead of getting irritated, I just said "it is what it is" and went to another section. Well, lo and behold a lone basil plant was in the PAINT section.
- asked for a sign from the Universe about an ex (moment of weakness) and his SIL texted me 10 minutes later saying she missed me

The point of this post is simply that with all the craziness going on in the world right now, we are still in control of our destiny and manifesting does work. Good things happen when you open up to them :) I want to stay in this excited feeling regarding manifestations and hope that this helps get others excited. If we are manifesting with good intentions, anything is possible.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: LillyPad99 on May 14, 2020, 01:13:12 AM
Well said, Bumble. Happy for you! 🤗🤗 I still struggle with manifesting as I can’t really “let go”. I tend to dwell and think about what I’m trying to manifest constantly. When I used to do meditation manifesting, boy my mind would wander. If i was trying to manifest something regarding my POI, suddenly I’d be thinking about a sandwich or fruit snacks (yes...that has happened before. Shhh, don’t judge me), or if I would try to visualize/manifest something regarding career, I’m suddenly recalling a conversation I had earlier with a friend. It’s quite frustrating. It’s also a bit difficult, for me, to apply “happiness” or emotion to something I’ve never had yet. 🤷🏽‍♀️
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on May 14, 2020, 01:19:47 AM
Well said, Bumble. Happy for you! 🤗🤗 I still struggle with manifesting as I can’t really “let go”. I tend to dwell and think about what I’m trying to manifest constantly. When I used to do meditation manifesting, boy my mind would wander. If i was trying to manifest something regarding my POI, suddenly I’d be thinking about a sandwich or fruit snacks (yes...that has happened before. Shhh, don’t judge me), or if I would try to visualize/manifest something regarding career, I’m suddenly recalling a conversation I had earlier with a friend. It’s quite frustrating. It’s also a bit difficult, for me, to apply “happiness” or emotion to something I’ve never had yet. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Oh I think I can help! Don't "try". You have to just do what feels good naturally. If you are trying to manifest a relationship, don't pigeonhole someone into it. Simply give it to the Universe and say "I am open to receive the perfect love for me". Either it's your POI or someone better aligned for you. Have you tried scripting? I journal daily what an ideal day in 3 years will be, from sun up to sun down. I write in the present tense and write what I'd be feeling. Once it starts feeling forced, I stop.

I also recommend writing 3 good things that happen to you every day and how it makes you feel...even if it's something small like I had a coffee and I feel awake. These things will build on one another. You want to create an avalanche of manifestation with all your small snowflakes :) Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need help. I'm trying to switch to a more giving and gratitude aligned attitude. It's a win-win for me to try to help others with manifestation.

EDITED TO ADD: I manifest pizza all the time. No judgement from me. Now if I can just manifest a bikini body while eating all the pizza I want ;)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Carmendiaz on May 19, 2020, 08:46:02 PM
Well said, Bumble. Happy for you! 🤗🤗 I still struggle with manifesting as I can’t really “let go”. I tend to dwell and think about what I’m trying to manifest constantly. When I used to do meditation manifesting, boy my mind would wander. If i was trying to manifest something regarding my POI, suddenly I’d be thinking about a sandwich or fruit snacks (yes...that has happened before. Shhh, don’t judge me), or if I would try to visualize/manifest something regarding career, I’m suddenly recalling a conversation I had earlier with a friend. It’s quite frustrating. It’s also a bit difficult, for me, to apply “happiness” or emotion to something I’ve never had yet. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Can you help me?
Oh I think I can help! Don't "try". You have to just do what feels good naturally. If you are trying to manifest a relationship, don't pigeonhole someone into it. Simply give it to the Universe and say "I am open to receive the perfect love for me". Either it's your POI or someone better aligned for you. Have you tried scripting? I journal daily what an ideal day in 3 years will be, from sun up to sun down. I write in the present tense and write what I'd be feeling. Once it starts feeling forced, I stop.

I also recommend writing 3 good things that happen to you every day and how it makes you feel...even if it's something small like I had a coffee and I feel awake. These things will build on one another. You want to create an avalanche of manifestation with all your small snowflakes :) Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need help. I'm trying to switch to a more giving and gratitude aligned attitude. It's a win-win for me to try to help others with manifestation.

EDITED TO ADD: I manifest pizza all the time. No judgement from me. Now if I can just manifest a bikini body while eating all the pizza I want ;)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on May 20, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
Well said, Bumble. Happy for you! 🤗🤗 I still struggle with manifesting as I can’t really “let go”. I tend to dwell and think about what I’m trying to manifest constantly. When I used to do meditation manifesting, boy my mind would wander. If i was trying to manifest something regarding my POI, suddenly I’d be thinking about a sandwich or fruit snacks (yes...that has happened before. Shhh, don’t judge me), or if I would try to visualize/manifest something regarding career, I’m suddenly recalling a conversation I had earlier with a friend. It’s quite frustrating. It’s also a bit difficult, for me, to apply “happiness” or emotion to something I’ve never had yet. 🤷🏽‍♀️


Can you help me?
Oh I think I can help! Don't "try". You have to just do what feels good naturally. If you are trying to manifest a relationship, don't pigeonhole someone into it. Simply give it to the Universe and say "I am open to receive the perfect love for me". Either it's your POI or someone better aligned for you. Have you tried scripting? I journal daily what an ideal day in 3 years will be, from sun up to sun down. I write in the present tense and write what I'd be feeling. Once it starts feeling forced, I stop.

I also recommend writing 3 good things that happen to you every day and how it makes you feel...even if it's something small like I had a coffee and I feel awake. These things will build on one another. You want to create an avalanche of manifestation with all your small snowflakes :) Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need help. I'm trying to switch to a more giving and gratitude aligned attitude. It's a win-win for me to try to help others with manifestation.

EDITED TO ADD: I manifest pizza all the time. No judgement from me. Now if I can just manifest a bikini body while eating all the pizza I want ;)

of course! shoot me a PM :)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on May 26, 2020, 04:58:18 PM
Whoever was interested in LOA coaching, Udemy has a sale going on now. A lot of them are $15 for a course :)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Catlover86 on May 26, 2020, 05:05:32 PM
Whoever was interested in LOA coaching, Udemy has a sale going on now. A lot of them are $15 for a course :)

Omg perfect timing to see this. Where can I find this?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on May 26, 2020, 05:11:07 PM
Whoever was interested in LOA coaching, Udemy has a sale going on now. A lot of them are $15 for a course :)

Omg perfect timing to see this. Where can I find this?

Here you go! https://www.udemy.com/topic/law-of-attraction/
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Catlover86 on May 26, 2020, 05:22:19 PM
Those of you who are familiar with manifesting, I could use some advice. Every time I get back on trying to manifest things in my life, like journaling, mirror manifestations, etc I swear.. EVERYTHING goes wrong in my life. Example, yesterday I was writing my affirmations in my journal and someone in my family verbally attacked me yesterday. Calling me names and was just awful. This happens all the time. So I give up because my morale is sooo down. Then I get stuck in the “what’s the point” frame of mind. Anyone have experiences like this?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on May 26, 2020, 05:42:55 PM
Those of you who are familiar with manifesting, I could use some advice. Every time I get back on trying to manifest things in my life, like journaling, mirror manifestations, etc I swear.. EVERYTHING goes wrong in my life. Example, yesterday I was writing my affirmations in my journal and someone in my family verbally attacked me yesterday. Calling me names and was just awful. This happens all the time. So I give up because my morale is sooo down. Then I get stuck in the “what’s the point” frame of mind. Anyone have experiences like this?

That's very interesting. I personally don't have the answer but found this: https://moderndaymanifestations.com/manifesting-the-opposite/

Do some self-care and self-love. Raise your vibration to help attract what you want. PM if you ever need someone to talk to. Sending love
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Heather on May 26, 2020, 05:43:14 PM
Those of you who are familiar with manifesting, I could use some advice. Every time I get back on trying to manifest things in my life, like journaling, mirror manifestations, etc I swear.. EVERYTHING goes wrong in my life. Example, yesterday I was writing my affirmations in my journal and someone in my family verbally attacked me yesterday. Calling me names and was just awful. This happens all the time. So I give up because my morale is sooo down. Then I get stuck in the “what’s the point” frame of mind. Anyone have experiences like this?

Yes, it’s like a knee-jerk reaction from the universe. It’s been my experience that it subsides fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Heather on May 26, 2020, 06:04:30 PM
I was sitting here thinking about all of the amazing things I’ve manifested in my life that I should be ecstatic with happiness. Unfortunately, I have been plagued with the unhappy gene even when things are more or less good. It’s always been that one thing that’s just out of reach. I’m currently trying to turn this negative mindset around.

Things I’ve manifested:

People—significant others that had a lifelong impact on me. I’m just now coming to realize that certain relationships didn’t work out because I was hanging on to them too strongly.  One very important relationship to me I learned to let go of, and once I did that, he came back to me in a different way. We are good friends now.

Jobs—I asked the Universe for a specific type of job, and it happened. It had its ups and downs, but it was very strange how that job just appeared out of nowhere.

Money—Sometimes large amounts. Well, maybe not to a lot of people, but to someone like me, it was a huge relief.


It’s weird how things just manifest, and I even tried a spell in the last year. It totally worked! But I was too blind to see how lovely it was. I have a lot more clarity on the situation now than before, and I have to believe that it is all working together for the good.

I’ve also found that I don’t always need a specific technique to make it happen. We can create our own too. Certain techniques caused me anxiety, and then I wasn’t manifesting anything. I might read a spell, get a good idea for it, and make it my own. (I might follow the “rule” of a spell, as in, don’t blow out the candle; snuff it out instead. That sort of thing.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Catlover86 on May 27, 2020, 03:31:40 AM
Those of you who are familiar with manifesting, I could use some advice. Every time I get back on trying to manifest things in my life, like journaling, mirror manifestations, etc I swear.. EVERYTHING goes wrong in my life. Example, yesterday I was writing my affirmations in my journal and someone in my family verbally attacked me yesterday. Calling me names and was just awful. This happens all the time. So I give up because my morale is sooo down. Then I get stuck in the “what’s the point” frame of mind. Anyone have experiences like this?

That's very interesting. I personally don't have the answer but found this: https://moderndaymanifestations.com/manifesting-the-opposite/

Do some self-care and self-love. Raise your vibration to help attract what you want. PM if you ever need someone to talk to. Sending love

Thank you! Appreciate it!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Esse on May 31, 2020, 11:55:04 AM
Interesting quote:

Just reading an interview with Daisy May Cooper (bafta winning writer/actress) and 'DMC: Yep, I’ve attracted all of this from LOA, 100%. I’ve met some really famous actors – and my first question for them is always “do you believe in LOA?”. Every single one says yes, that that’s why they’re where they are today.'
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on June 08, 2020, 06:13:33 PM
Ok I’m going back to making 10 random things list, I directed it in regards to uber trips and things I’d like just see related to that. Its freaky how some things have happened... but one that has happened sorta outside (maybe even partial manifestation but maybe not but still fun) on my list was “have a conversation about Leonardo di caprio”

So I as I called it a day, yesterday, I come home and I find my mother enthralled watching Django in Spanish and my mother having so many questions about “evil” Leonardo DiCaprio. That one was pretty funny, and hilarious cause the conversation was in Spanish! kinda partial because I specifically intended to be with me doing uber... but it was weird cause I had just finished doing my shift with uber, regardless it was funny to me!

In other other manifestation news I tried manifestation coach! And I loved it! There were so many jewels of wisdom. It’s not much even too about the manifestation with the SP but about getting excited about me and my life and confidence, even though the focus was about the SP it was really about redirecting myself and changing myself first.

So that was that was two days ago, and this morning I was scrolling for psychics and I was like no let’s re listen to that session I had and it was great cause the intentions about me are what’s important -and with that the power of psychic got zapped. Even if I let myself have a reading it just feels like “what’s the point? They’re only going to pick up my doubts and fears cause this is what intending or projecting anyways” I really love that that magic of psychics is being dethroned and I am putting myself first in the pedestal !

So I’m excited!

Love this! I love my coach! It made a big difference for me. I also really like to 5x55 method. You may enjoy it
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on June 09, 2020, 05:19:22 PM
I'm slowly getting into LOA coaching with my own coach. If anyone is interested on being my practice clients to see what works for them vs. what doesn't, please shoot me a PM. I have received several free readings on this forum and would like to help give back :) It would be totally free and I'd be willing to take on 5 people at the moment, hopefully growing in the future.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: listenlisten on June 10, 2020, 12:25:07 AM
Do you guys believe that manifesting changes outcomes of psychic readings you've had? or are the readings still based on your future regardless if you manifest?
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: listenlisten on June 13, 2020, 01:57:19 PM
Thank you so much for that. I needed it this morning!

Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Hopeful2020 on June 15, 2020, 01:18:03 PM
Isn’t it wonderful challenge
I joined manifestation group using this phrase and I wanted to share it. Neville Goddard talked about this one ... and I’ve been using this for two days... not only saying this but cussing with it: isn’t mutha🤬 wonderful i manifest so easily and naturally?!
Isn’t it wonderful I mutha🤬 get all my desires fulfilled?!
Or when I see something that bothers me, I say it! And it definitely added some fun feistiness in me! Or to the things I want to receive

Try it

I LOVE THIS!!!! Definitely going to try it :) Thank you!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Racquel43 on June 23, 2020, 02:11:11 PM
I wish people knew more about manifestation. I personally wished I knew about it before I wasted my time with psychics. I feel like readings have held me back from my goals. We have the power to make our reality that is a fact. Nothing about knowing the future has helped me in any way.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Hopeful2020 on June 30, 2020, 10:46:54 PM
https://youtu.be/MYjM805xBxI
Psychics, Tarot. And manifesting

This popped up on my feed today. Thought I would share.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Hopeful2020 on July 01, 2020, 01:34:21 AM
https://youtu.be/MYjM805xBxI
Psychics, Tarot. And manifesting

This popped up on my feed today. Thought I would share.


😬😬😬 I’m not fan of Roxy talks, I feel she contradicts herself. There is some good stuff here, a lot of good stuff but she wavers and waffles... a lot. She reminds me of teal swan in her speech pattern and sometimes rambles... but if this helps you by all means if it resonates! Go ahead!

Roxy... is definitely a manifestation coach that um one should be careful of... especially if her one in one session is $500

I like this lady sammy when it comes to tarot cards, psychics, she’s also rough around the edges, but is firm about it:

https://youtu.be/bfnisuUtqEo

I don’t want to mention something that deeply changed my view about manifestation with psychic because until you decide you are the creator of you’re reality you’re going waffle and waver ... a lot! Fuck it I’m just going to say: when you ask how so and so feels about you?
You just gave them free will! Yup that’s right I said it, the BIG F! Unless you’re firm about how you feel about you but you keep asking what does it mean? You just gave everyone else in you’re reality free will, you’re going to doubt! You’re gonna create doubt! So until you can stop asking, Stop being in the state of lack, you’re gonna fucken create guess what? -lack
You’re not affirming, you’re questioning. And what I like with Roxy said here, is you’re not affirming, you’re not declaring you’re questioning, which is a state of lack, a state of unconsciousness.

And there’s so so so so so many of interpretation from Neville from the bible: you can’t serve two masters!
You can serve the master of lack (unconsciousness)
Or you can serve from the master of having (consciousness)
But you can’t be in both states... at least from Neville perspective, there’s also this bible interpretation of it being money and evil

Either life happens to you (unconsciousness)
Or you make life happen for you! (Consciousness)

To end on bad/tv world, think of Westworld on that voice: this is the new world, and this world you can be whoever the fuck you want!

Affirm it! Declare it! Know you are too the great I AM

Ouch $500 a session.. no thanks! I liked the message in this video like you mentioned about if you're asking you're not declaring. I am trying to learn more about manifesting, so far I had just been listening to Abraham hicks, and then someone mentioned Roxy Talks on here so I looked her up. I like that she is straight forward and honestly her cussing makes me feel better about my cussing lol. I will happily take any recommendations you have for youtube videos if you don't mind sharing. :)
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on July 14, 2020, 01:39:31 PM
I agree manifestation is better than psychic readings.

I have manifested a good salary recently. What I did was set an intention and created a twitter account with profile that I make that much money per year.
Then it came to true in 5 months.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Kayrid on July 14, 2020, 03:01:01 PM
I agree.  I feel, personally, with manifesting I feel a much greater degree of control over my my life and am overall much happier as opposed to waiting around for predictions to pass.  Much less anxiety and self-doubt for me and much more empowerment and happiness.

I will say if you are just starting it is TOUGH, but gets easier :)   For me the mental diet stuff was / is the hardest, but so worth it to put in the effort!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Tiredofbs on July 23, 2020, 08:03:55 PM
Thank you for sharing this. I found this to be really really helpful and true. We should realise our own power, that nothing is set in stone and to learn to trust ourselves more.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: ES1281 on August 25, 2020, 02:31:32 AM

Hi guys

I've been working on manifestation lately and going pretty well.
I feel better than psychic readings.

I manifested...

-A luxury watch I wanted.
-The best salary i could have ever.
-My lost cat back home: somebody found him. All timing and sequence of events to find him was amazing.
-Imported food from abroad very rare things.
Never told anybody. (my family or friends just mention about the food and bring it to me from somewhere selling foreign groceries.)
I also manifested an ideal house that we can move in.

All I did was imagine I already had that. Watch on my wrist, that money I already made, my cat is already back.
The feeling I am eating my favorite food.
The house I already lives.

It is amazing and way better than any psychic readings it just works as long as I could feel the feeling, I already had it.

[we attract what we are] [ state of being ] is the real deal.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Ash1234567 on August 25, 2020, 02:46:34 AM
Tried manifesting my ex back for over a year, nothing happened hahahaha - tell me your secrets
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: CancerBumble on August 25, 2020, 03:59:57 PM
Tried manifesting my ex back for over a year, nothing happened hahahaha - tell me your secrets

I think the key is to manifest the perfect person for you, not a specific person. You want someone who matches your vibrational alignment.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: summertimesnow on August 30, 2020, 03:32:27 AM
I would agree with this.
I think that manifesting works inadvertently for me. One time I had manifested a flight upgrade.
But I had been wanting some new friends, female friends in particular, and at least one foreigner female like myself.
And I had even tried the apps for female friendships (if it's not obvious, I am female).
So, all of a sudden I met 3 new ladies, and reconnected with 2 other ladies. 3 of these ladies are foreigners, in fact 2 are Spanish speaking. Spanish is my 3rd foreign language, -my native isn't English or Spanish, it's not a Romance language in fact but it does deploy the Latin alphabet so that's the only alphabet I know-and so how lovely; that I can practice Spanish with these ladies for whom it's their native language.
So that was what I was focusing on as well.
Maybe I didn't overthink it and so I drew these energies to myself!
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: russianred on October 11, 2020, 05:15:36 AM
Do you think manifesting is the same with Law of Attraction?

I'm unclear on that too.  I tend to think of Law of Attraction like if you are open and positive, you will attract the same type of person to you.  If you focus on the good things, then you will bring about more good things, being an example of what you want in your own life... a little like karma.  Like attracts like.

I think of manifesting as trying to will something into existence or will someone to do something, like the Lanie Stevens stuff (I think she uses the term LOA too though).  I honestly have not had success with that despite going into it with an open mind.  I wish I did.  I know people swear by it.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Mina on April 18, 2023, 05:22:53 AM
What lately is helping me…

Is binge watching break up videos on YouTube from love advice tv, and coach lee. And in 2020 I wouldn’t dare watch relationship coach stuff because I would say “limited beliefs” and roll my eyes 🙄. “That no contact is a shallow tactic “ “that those coaches are approaching with tons of patriarchy propaganda” … however now I realize approaching no contact as a “rule” without doing inner works- is pointless. “Faith without works” so to speak.

So after many after vain ways to manifest. Mindless affirmations, lots and lots of techniques as magical thinking effects and a lot “forceful” approach just …leading to frustration. BUT, I really loved this perspective from coach lee here… because it’s not fanatic response, and even addresses a bit of free will. I think definitely an realist perspective

More importantly it’s about “subtleness”… and this helps me remember, bare with me with the metaphors here… but that I am “flower”, 🌺 one of many flowers, and I attract lots of bees 🐝 … not just the one 🐝 if I put all my efforts into that one, and only one, well I will miss out on the other “bees” of love who are here.

https://youtu.be/Mnqg3K1ggbE
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: Miamigurlxx on April 19, 2023, 11:08:38 AM
When you manifest, you need to let go. Some people make the biggest mistake is to keep obsessing towards your goal.
Title: Re: Manifesting
Post by: shannynlin on January 06, 2024, 07:35:23 PM
I am constantly manifesting, except I find when I ask the universe for something it works best when I have zero expectations. I manifested two men who wanted me to marry them within a year apart from each other. I've held off on marriage for personal reasons though (I want to further my career first). Also $2500 one time and $1300 another time. A trip to Italy. Just really bizarre things, but huge wins in my book! ;)

I also like to use tools. Manifestation candles work best when I combine them with scripting. My gripe is that cheap candles aren't good quality and the scents give me a headache. But there's a tiny local boutique that specializes in EXACTLY manifestation scripting candles. And they smell soooooo clean. I think they're actually spell candles but the maker won't admit it hehe (send me a message if you want a link to these)