The Psychic Reviews
Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => Keen.com => Topic started by: bstalling on November 01, 2017, 08:07:30 PM
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I've been noticing that not a lot of readers bother to sign onto Keen anymore. My favorites list is quite small, but I've noticed that a lot of the regulars or a lot of readers
mentioned on this board don't sign on quite often anymore. I would like to think that people google readers, come to this board and make informed decisions about who
to call. Honestly, there are not a lot of boards like this online, where even lurkers can read for years on end without posting.
I remember years ago, when forums and message boards about psychics were not really popular...one reader acquantance of mine said that clients were getting reads like crazy
and she even made up to 10K in a single day. Of course, Keen has changed some of their rules, but I would like to think this board makes an impact.
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I don't think it's ruining their careers. There are still plenty of readers on there who are busy. They come and go all the time anyway. I do think though, that all of Keen's changes to sort of keep up with the times has probably pushed out a lot of the older readers who couldn't figure out the technology or who didn't want to deal with it. Not bashing on anyone. Just saying I could imagine they'd be frustrated when Keen didn't change for years and years and then suddenly, it's changing every day. I don't think reviews on here or anywhere else hurt the majority of them. I know that I personally scour reviews looking to make a decision but if I wanted to get a reading with that person before I looked at reviews, I'll probably still get the reading. I also found that I call them more because of reviews. When people have a lot of good things to say about someone, I figure I need to try them lol.
So the good ones and even the okay ones are probably doing better because of this. It's the ones who were just sort of advice or listening "psychics" that take more of a hit. These review boards are better at finding the real information like if predictions happened or if the reader was really on point about something. If the reviews on Keen are all "Thank you" or "I feel so much better" or "Very kind reader", that might look good but it doesn't tell us anything. So the advice or therapist type readers get a lot of those types of reviews and people call based off of that. But on this page, we can be more specific and talk about what the reader actually said and we can also interact with each other. I've even seen on this page where people found out the reader gave them all the same information that they thought was accurate at the time. And we can discuss psychic ability here and what that really means and why we got the reading in the first place. Anyway, I think what we review here helps the real psychics and might hurt the not so good ones but I don't think it's the source of any major changes.
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I agree with Whit - probably has helped more careers than hurt.
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The board is fickle. It can send a rush of clients to a reader and a bad review can result in crickets. It does have a significant effect on their pocket books, but only if they get mentioned. If they don't, then obviously not.
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I remember years ago, when forums and message boards about psychics were not really popular...one reader acquantance of mine said that clients were getting reads like crazy
and she even made up to 10K in a single day. Of course, Keen has changed some of their rules, but I would like to think this board makes an impact.
How much was that reader charging per minute?
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I've been noticing that not a lot of readers bother to sign onto Keen anymore. My favorites list is quite small, but I've noticed that a lot of the regulars or a lot of readers
mentioned on this board don't sign on quite often anymore. I would like to think that people google readers, come to this board and make informed decisions about who to call. Honestly, there are not a lot of boards like this online, where even lurkers can read for years on end without posting.
I remember years ago, when forums and message boards about psychics were not really popular...one reader acquantance of mine said that clients were getting reads like crazy and she even made up to 10K in a single day. Of course, Keen has changed some of their rules, but I would like to think this board makes an impact.
I believe there is an ebb and flow to it all tbh, but you have to consider all boards make an impact at some point, by certain degrees. I'm on two other boards and it's the same way, but some of the other boards don't mention the same readers so there is that and there are some forums I don't care to join, so it has to be a little of both. I too noticed that a lot of readers don't come on as regularly as they use to and I'm in line for a Cookie read. Down from 31 to 27 I think.
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I think going by what I have heard here and there and what I have seen on Rip Off report, Keen can be a pretty nasty environment to work in. If a reader attracts a following, they may have other readers gunning for them. Keen also runs some of them off with their policies.
Yep, I have heard about this as well.
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Double ditto on that too!
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I gotta say this too...not to be nitpicky but I just don't consider what any of them do to be a career! Lmao
Agreed ;D
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Funny that this thread was started today. I went to look for Dawn Maree and she is GONE - no call button, nothing. She was still available a week ago and now there is nothing there. A year ago you had to get in line and I have noticed that you can get her rather quickly.
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I remember years ago, when forums and message boards about psychics were not really popular...one reader acquantance of mine said that clients were getting reads like crazy
and she even made up to 10K in a single day. Of course, Keen has changed some of their rules, but I would like to think this board makes an impact.
How much was that reader charging per minute?
Not sure, but it must have been in the teens of dollars and she must have been on all day.
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I gotta say this too...not to be nitpicky but I just don't consider what any of them do to be a career! Lmao
LOL. Me too really, but I'm sure many readers have made Keen their main source of income for a good while, being able to pay their bills with it.
Another reason that prompted me to make this thread was all of the changes that Keen has been implementing these past few months. Makes me think
that revenue has been way down for them in general. Almost like people are wiser about the whole psychic thing and not bothering lol. I've also checked out other sites,
like Kasamba. Seems like they are on their last legs with all of the obviously poor readers on the front page. Not sure how California Psychics is doing, but they sure do send me a
lot of promos.
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Seriously, Keen is stingy as F! They need to start flowing with their promotions and give us more for being loyal. I would be accepting of some sort of frequent buyer program. Those crappy three mins are for newbies only, so the repeat clients need incentives too. Shysters!
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Me too, keen and some readers get hurt because of the reviews. If someone says the reader saw reconciliation, and that did not happen, the potential caller would never contact that psychic.
This happened to me too, many months ago, sapphire21 was in my favorites list bookmarked to be called some day in the future. But on this forum, someone mentioned how sapphire fed her with stories on a sure reconciliation of sorts and the guy turned out to have been married to someone else during the process which came as a shock to her.
So how can most potentials call her if you think about it, this story would be anticipatingly playing in their minds when thinking about whether or not to call. May be she is ethical and she just saw this vision which turned out to be wrong. But I dont know her, never read with her, and after hearing a story like this, I am not calling her. And that is her loss.
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Seriously, Keen is stingy as F! They need to start flowing with their promotions and give us more for being loyal. I would be accepting of some sort of frequent buyer program. Those crappy three mins are for newbies only, so the repeat clients need incentives too. Shysters!
LOL sometimes I get those "Add $5, get $10" promos.
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I agree on this, man I need promotions too LOL. After spending so much, I havent really gotten any in emails and now I wonder why. May be because I havent spent anything significant since 2014 onwards; I checked my monthly spending in last year it was about 75 per month, which is decent but still feel guilty. But I wish I hadnt spent anything like that in 2013-2013, could have gotten me a brand new car.
Seriously, Keen is stingy as F! They need to start flowing with their promotions and give us more for being loyal. I would be accepting of some sort of frequent buyer program. Those crappy three mins are for newbies only, so the repeat clients need incentives too. Shysters!
No kidding...after all the money I spent with them (most of it WASTED) and others have spent we all deserve more promotions. I rarely call anymore unless they send me a promo.
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I sent an email to Dawn last night from her private site. She just responded and said to tell her how many minutes I want and that I can pay through pay pal. So it sounds like she is willing to do less than 15 minutes.
I like Dawn - I don't think she is very accurate with predictions but I enjoy chatting with her and she is good at knowing the emotions of the people involved.
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OPPS!! sorry for the last comment - I posted this in the WRONG thread.
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If the reviews on Keen are all "Thank you" or "I feel so much better" or "Very kind reader", that might look good but it doesn't tell us anything.
There was an older gentleman I used to call on Keen, years and years ago, when I was super stressed out. It was like having a grandpa to talk to. I'm sure he wasn't psychic and I could have cared less. He listened and gave pretty good advice. They should bring back some of their old categories again.
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If the reviews on Keen are all "Thank you" or "I feel so much better" or "Very kind reader", that might look good but it doesn't tell us anything.
There was an older gentleman I used to call on Keen, years and years ago, when I was super stressed out. It was like having a grandpa to talk to. I'm sure he wasn't psychic and I could have cared less. He listened and gave pretty good advice. They should bring back some of their old categories again.
Dial a Grandpa. That's a valuable service. I miss mine. He always knew how to fix things, whether it was plumbing or when to tell someone to go EFF themselves.
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If the reviews on Keen are all "Thank you" or "I feel so much better" or "Very kind reader", that might look good but it doesn't tell us anything.
There was an older gentleman I used to call on Keen, years and years ago, when I was super stressed out. It was like having a grandpa to talk to. I'm sure he wasn't psychic and I could have cared less. He listened and gave pretty good advice. They should bring back some of their old categories again.
Dial a Grandpa. That's a valuable service. I miss mine. He always knew how to fix things, whether it was plumbing or when to tell someone to go EFF themselves.
Oh, I agree! I didn't mean that that isn't a valuable service. Just that those types of reviews don't give any information about if the psychic was correct or not. If they had even just one category that was like, "life coaches" or something like that to be a catch all for all the therapist types, I think it would be really beneficial. There are different times that call for each type of call. It would just separate the categories better so we would know which type of advice we were getting.
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I agree, would love to talk to someone from old category only if it was less than 1 pm and if I was in anxiety or if I needed advice on some daily matters..but it should be less than 1 pm, not paying for a psychic here..
If the reviews on Keen are all "Thank you" or "I feel so much better" or "Very kind reader", that might look good but it doesn't tell us anything.
There was an older gentleman I used to call on Keen, years and years ago, when I was super stressed out. It was like having a grandpa to talk to. I'm sure he wasn't psychic and I could have cared less. He listened and gave pretty good advice. They should bring back some of their old categories again.
Dial a Grandpa. That's a valuable service. I miss mine. He always knew how to fix things, whether it was plumbing or when to tell someone to go EFF themselves.
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Like these people here?
https://www.keen.com/social-entertainment/friends/nikki-talks/9611316
https://www.keen.com/social-entertainment/friends/ms-rikki/5526302
They don't appear to make much money or if any, since people are not willing to pay to just socialize.
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This is helpful, may try some day; nowadays am not even spending the minimum time with regulars...
Like these people here?
https://www.keen.com/social-entertainment/friends/nikki-talks/9611316
https://www.keen.com/social-entertainment/friends/ms-rikki/5526302
They don't appear to make much money or if any, since people are not willing to pay to just socialize.
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Like these people here?
https://www.keen.com/social-entertainment/friends/nikki-talks/9611316
https://www.keen.com/social-entertainment/friends/ms-rikki/5526302
They don't appear to make much money or if any, since people are not willing to pay to just socialize.
I don't think Nikki gives grandfatherly advice, lol.
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If the reviews on Keen are all "Thank you" or "I feel so much better" or "Very kind reader", that might look good but it doesn't tell us anything.
There was an older gentleman I used to call on Keen, years and years ago, when I was super stressed out. It was like having a grandpa to talk to. I'm sure he wasn't psychic and I could have cared less. He listened and gave pretty good advice. They should bring back some of their old categories again.
Dial a Grandpa. That's a valuable service. I miss mine. He always knew how to fix things, whether it was plumbing or when to tell someone to go EFF themselves.
My life is like a hamster on a wheel. I think I have had 3 days off in the last 4 months. Just talking with him when I was completely overwhelmed was very calming. He made me feel like I could breathe again. I think he was $1.50 a minute. It was completely worth it.
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No this site has not.
So I have a Keen psychic account not to read people, but just look at the forums and what they say about us. So I know a lot of the secrets because
I befriended a man there, let's call him "Steve" after he called my personal phone because all the psychic frauds were crying about my honesty and they were debating on cancelling my account after "a coup". He quit 2 years ago but will give me the scoop if I ask. Probably.
SO, this is straight from Keen's mouth and charts with money and the forums:
When we bash readers, their followers usually call them more to flush the feedback away (God forbid they have invested in a fraud). They see it as you bashing their choice as well. Psychics end up breaking even or get more money. Or clients assume you can't handle truth which makes people want to call more. Sometimes people want to gamble and see if they will get great news and a great reading because if psychics give bad readings and yours is great - well yours is even better! It's more valuable when others are unhappy.
Also have you seen what they are doing now? My gorgeous 1 stars are hard to find.
The psychics also know of this site and compare notes with each other with who you guys are and have said they befriend some of you in private IMs or read your stories on here and that's how they get the scoop. That some of you for minutes or money reach out to psychics and doxx people on here. I'm not only floored they go this low but the fact they openly admit it. I'm not saying any of you do this, but a few readers have said as such.
There is also a private Keen group for readers I don't have access to. They make the readers write something on their profile to see who is a legit reader and who is sneaky like me! LOL. So I can only imagine what they do on there.
Refunds Keen gives you credits back to spend but the reader never loses the money. Keen feels if anything the more readers you go to the more you will spend. So every time you get a refund they feel they'll make it at least 10x over because you are investing in someone new. They want you to move on and find another reader to start off with.
The bidding online fee is 90 days. So if you click on their profile more than once every 90 days they do not lose bidding money.
At the end of the day, bashing is public so other psychics will refuse you but the psychic might just get a jolt. They deserve the chair, at least some of them IMO.
Haha Realist is here. I've read your reviews over the years. You are a favorite on the Keen Bashers board. I wish more reviewers left reviews like you.
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No this site has not.
So I have a Keen psychic account not to read people, but just look at the forums and what they say about us. So I know a lot of the secrets because
I befriended a man there, let's call him "Steve" after he called my personal phone because all the psychic frauds were crying about my honesty and they were debating on cancelling my account after "a coup". He quit 2 years ago but will give me the scoop if I ask. Probably.
SO, this is straight from Keen's mouth and charts with money and the forums:
When we bash readers, their followers usually call them more to flush the feedback away (God forbid they have invested in a fraud). They see it as you bashing their choice as well. Psychics end up breaking even or get more money. Or clients assume you can't handle truth which makes people want to call more. Sometimes people want to gamble and see if they will get great news and a great reading because if psychics give bad readings and yours is great - well yours is even better! It's more valuable when others are unhappy.
Also have you seen what they are doing now? My gorgeous 1 stars are hard to find.
The psychics also know of this site and compare notes with each other with who you guys are and have said they befriend some of you in private IMs or read your stories on here and that's how they get the scoop. That some of you for minutes or money reach out to psychics and doxx people on here. I'm not only floored they go this low but the fact they openly admit it. I'm not saying any of you do this, but a few readers have said as such.
There is also a private Keen group for readers I don't have access to. They make the readers write something on their profile to see who is a legit reader and who is sneaky like me! LOL. So I can only imagine what they do on there.
Refunds Keen gives you credits back to spend but the reader never loses the money. Keen feels if anything the more readers you go to the more you will spend. So every time you get a refund they feel they'll make it at least 10x over because you are investing in someone new. They want you to move on and find another reader to start off with.
The bidding online fee is 90 days. So if you click on their profile more than once every 90 days they do not lose bidding money.
At the end of the day, bashing is public so other psychics will refuse you but the psychic might just get a jolt. They deserve the chair, at least some of them IMO.
Awesome post..thanks and stick around:)
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So, Realist411, do you still call Keen?
I too am a professional and respected in my field. God knows I would die if anyone knew how bad my addiction is and how much I have spent over the last decade (although I am getting better). But bashing has just never been my style. I figure that if I am stupid enough to continue with such irresponsible behavior that I must pay the price and the only person to blame is me.
The best Psychic I ever had the pleasure of knowing only did in-person readings and he had a three-year waiting list. As soon as I would have a reading I would book my next appointment and wait my three years. He was great, but he died and I picked up with Keen.
Anyway would love to hear if you are still on Keen or if you have gone to another site.
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What is considered bashing? leaving one bad review would push people to these lengths?
I have only had two readers reach out to me after a bad review, one insulted me in an email so my mind is going directly to her.
Anything not favorable to the psychic is considered bashing. Seriously.
There is no real room for honest/truthful reviews on that site.
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I think bashing is basically anything below a 5 star and just not giving them a fantastic review and being honest they weren't perfect.
Some of these people are clearly insane so if you have nothing nice to say they take out all their rage on you.
Anything less than a 5 star is considered a negative to most of them. Like "why did you take off a star?"
Once you give a "bad" feedback, readers are known to follow your feedback to other readers, reach out once they both have been "victimized by you" and compare notes and either seek revenge or then tell a third party aka another reader on the site all your business so you actually think they're psychic and split the cash. I wouldn't be surprised if 60% of the psychics you call know about you before you ever get a reading from them.
These people have nothing better to do. Now I'm angry and need a drink.
I've always suspected this was possible. Thats why I used to rotate accounts. I never just kept one Keen account for readings.
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I am not sure I would agree that some people got their job on Keen because they know someone at Ingenio - Hell ANYBODY can sign up to be a reader on Keen......and I mean anybody. They don't vet their readers in any way which is why we have this forum. All the information presented on this site helps me make an informed decision about who to call. I have my favorites but this site is a tremendous help for me.
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I did too and they found out it was me.
The problem is readers can easily have relationships with Keen itself. Some readers I'm sure got their jobs because their friend got a job at Ingenio.
So if you have multiple accounts the people that work there "can" easily pass it along to their reader friend.
I'm not saying this happened, for legal purposes. Just something to think about.
This website has all your information when you sign up.
They want their workers to tell you they know all your information so you feel you're with a legit psychic.
Not hard to see what comes of that.
On my one account I gave no negative feedbacks, simple questions on text and a reader called me out 3 days after I opened it. Someone clued her in.
Okay not all of what you're saying rings true. I've been on Keen for years and they don't have all my information. I've only used Paypal with them so they don't have my real information and with Paypal you can use both an alias email, address and name. Plus my facebook is an alias as well and I have multiple accounts with Facebook. js.
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1... Anyone can sign up for keen there is no test or interview. 2... There is no way any advisor in keen can get your info unless you give it to them over the phone. 3... Keen does not want there readers to contact any of their customers outside that forum. 4.... Keen does not want you too have multiple accounts and are now closing accounts down if you do. 5... Yes, I've heard there is a board where they chat and post stuff. 6....Lots take notes and repeat what you say back to you.