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Title: Goodbye
Post by: Littl30ne on October 02, 2017, 06:21:28 PM
Hello Friends,

It has been quite a journey. I am done with psychic readings, while I did feel good temporarily and was given hope about things it looks like I wasted a lot of money. I don’t recommend any psychics at all, I wanted my POI back but he moved on and things are speeding up— he already introduced her to his family within 4 months while I actually dated him for 4 years and never met his family. I was gullible. That’s it he’s gone. I called him begrudgingly and it was clear as day he’s a stranger in my eyes... whichever psychic told me he will come back in 2 years Bc of unfinished business better be wrong because this asshole doesn’t deserve my time nor energy. Talk to your POI that’s how you know the truth, don’t be afraid it will push him/her away.. don’t be afraid to use your own intuition.

When someone in your life leaves let them go, it’s their loss... I’m learning this now and it’s sucks but it’s also relieving in a way. I will check this site time to time because I loved the positive affirmations and the camaraderie here. Thank you for all of your support & kind words when I was severely depressed. Wish you all the best 💖 Good luck! I will respond to some other boards shortly but I just wanted to say thank you to everyone again 😘
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: yada-yada on October 02, 2017, 07:02:21 PM
I really just lurk her and rarely reply since I stopped getting psychic readings years ago but people like you are one of the reasons I love this site.  But I agree at the end of the day psychic readings are not worth it and just use your own intuition...most of the time we know our situation a lot better than we think we do but we just need someone to talk to.

As far as your POI coming back in 2 years.  This is what I've been going through.  Its funny but as soon as I stopped caring is when all of a sudden things started happening and its been 4 years.  But I forgive her.  Just from talking to you it seems like your POI lost a good person but sooner or later he'll regret it.  You deserve better and I promise you it will be.  I also want to say thanks for being so kind to me and giving me advice when I needed it.  I really appreciate it and you will be missed.   :)
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: njlady on October 03, 2017, 12:22:04 AM
You're doing the right thing.

Steve Harvey wrote a great book about how to tell if a man is serious or not.  He will Profess, Provide & Protect.  If he doesn't claim you as his girlfriend (Profess) in front of his friends and family within a reasonable amount of time, walk.   
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: mystery123 on October 03, 2017, 01:11:41 AM
Bye Little3one! I know it can be so hard but at least now you know and can work on moving forward.. Keep up the motivation.. sending you love and light!
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: sodapopcharm on October 03, 2017, 04:42:39 AM
Take care! You’re doing the right thing  :)
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 04, 2017, 04:04:39 PM
Men have never cared about inner beauty.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Universal9 on October 04, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 04, 2017, 07:08:00 PM
When someone in your life leaves let them go, it’s their loss...

That's a great outlook that we can all adopt.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 04, 2017, 07:21:40 PM
You're doing the right thing.

Steve Harvey wrote a great book about how to tell if a man is serious or not.  He will Profess, Provide & Protect.  If he doesn't claim you as his girlfriend (Profess) in front of his friends and family within a reasonable amount of time, walk.   

I'd be careful of a lot of advice from Steve Harvey, a lot of it is questionable and rooted in playing on the emotions of desperate or deeply discouraged women. One also has to question the deeply misandric slants he takes, and although I realize he is targeting a female audience misandry certainly won't help the female-male dynamic as it just breeds into women the nonsense idea that men are less than them and other vitriol.

That said, I agree with this one bit of his, however before I throw the relationship away I would ask the guy straight up what the deal is. What women don't often realize is because men and women view things in differing ways a man may not recognize that at a specific moment something is important to a woman and that you were expecting a different outcome than the one the man provided you. I'm sure lots of relationships have broken up for just that one reason alone. If the woman verbalizes it (i.e. "why haven't you introduced me to your family?") and he still doesn't do it, then at that point you know something is wrong.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 04, 2017, 07:29:28 PM
I have seen how she looks, she is like a 3 or 4 out of 10; and I dont want to appreciate myself LOL (but I need it at this time) and I know I am much much better than her. She is not even average I have zero clue how can he be so obsessive about a girl who is not nice from in and out. Its not just about the looks but what about inner beauty? ...

A man will generally circle back to a less attractive woman because of sexual skills.

If that's not it then it would be for love. I know it's hard for women in the western world to believe because of so much man-bashing programming over the past generation, but men fall in love too and often do look at beauty as more than skin deep.

There is also the other reality that what men find attractive in a woman differs from what women would consider attractive in a woman. It's the same in reverse as men are often stumped as to how women find certain men attractive.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 04, 2017, 09:39:30 PM
I'd be careful of a lot of advice from Steve Harvey, a lot of it is questionable and rooted in playing on the emotions of desperate or deeply discouraged women. One also has to question the deeply misandric slants he takes, and although I realize he is targeting a female audience misandry certainly won't help the female-male dynamic as it just breeds into women the nonsense idea that men are less than them and other vitriol.

That said, I agree with this one bit of his, however before I throw the relationship away I would ask the guy straight up what the deal is. What women don't often realize is because men and women view things in differing ways a man may not recognize that at a specific moment something is important to a woman and that you were expecting a different outcome than the one the man provided you. I'm sure lots of relationships have broken up for just that one reason alone. If the woman verbalizes it (i.e. "why haven't you introduced me to your family?") and he still doesn't do it, then at that point you know something is wrong.

I was going to say something to that effect about Steve Harvey, because he is on his what…fourth wife? And if you’ve heard what some of the previous wives have said, he didn’t dump them like a kind person would (the way he likes people to think that he is). He generally was onto his next wife before he told the current one. I don’t know him personally, but we all should consider the source.

I also know a woman who had dated a guy for like years and had never been over to his house. This screams red flags to me and she would just shrug it off. To some degree she felt like she was making waves I guess. If I never met the guy’s family, I would think something was wrong especially after dating the guy for a certain number of years. This too is another big, red flag.

Whereas a man's primary source of love for a woman is her looks, women fall in love with men for different reasons. Looks is hardly at the top of the list, although it can be, it's just not the primary reason the way it is for men. Men do like women who are nice even if they cheated or dumped them previously. I know of a couple of situations like this and it’s something of a challenge to get that woman back and they look at themselves as one of the reasons why she left to begin with. It’s odd, but I know some loooong ass examples of this particular scenario. 
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: mystery123 on October 04, 2017, 10:30:57 PM
The point is that not only is she 2/10 (and not 4/10 anymore like I originally estimated) but she also had ditched him years ago. How can you love a person who ditched you for another man? This is unhealthy and does not resonate with me even when I think about it rationally.  May be he had lied to me that she had ditched him for another man. That is the only explanation why he is still pursuing her. It has to be the sexual skills, but love with a woman who had cheated on him? Even if it is the case of love, it is his life, his karma, his doing, and his ending.

I don't mean to sound negative, but I think if you still care about what he is doing and waiting/hoping for him to come back then you are doing the same thing that that guy is doing. Wanting attention from someone who has backstabbed you several times!

I am sorry if I assumed that you are wanting this guy, but when I read you mentioning "where is the self respect of that guy for wanting that girl who has rejected him several times" then it just made me think of how universe is a mirror!

It's maybe not true for you, and I am again sorry if I assumed that he is your POI, but it's been true with me. I would never suggest any of my girlfriend to go after a guy who has rejected her, but yet I couldn't follow through myself.

Today I had an epiphany like moment- I was getting very anxious thinking that what if the guy I love maybe likes this other woman, and what if they are texting, calling, etc.. and then I took a step back in my thoughts and told myself- 1. It's none of my business 2. Do I really want someone who I can not trust and it always makes me anxious to think about him and wondering if he is interested in someone else 3. It's a reflection of my own insecurities too, because if I am secure enough then I will feel hurt and sad but I won't need him to be with me if he can't respect or love me.

I know we all know this but today it actually got into my head and I felt a sensation of peace after that, it was amazing- like I don't give a sh**, felt sooo good!

Also, I feel there is no rhyme or reason of why someone likes someone. If you are in love then you are in love, if you feel that connection then you just do.. I question myself on daily basis that why do I even love this person- there are much better, smarter guys out there but it's just so tough for me to let go of him.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: mystery123 on October 05, 2017, 03:29:32 AM
Thanks for your post! I think I am getting there too..very slowly but surely! :)
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Kate on October 05, 2017, 07:09:41 AM
Hello everyone:)) Some of you may still remember me but I'm the girl that got her heartbroken about a year ago when I found out my love interest got married (which I had no clue at all)... Anyways, I have been reading this forum on and off for awhile and I just read this message from Littl3one and it made me think of my story and more the reason I wanted to write this.
(Get some wine... red is better than white and get comfy)... I wanted to give an update especially to those that have been blindsided by the outcome of the POI marrying someone else. Guys, last year was not pretty for me especially for the few months after, it really did hurt but I'm so glad that happened to me! Yes, you heard me, because if it didn't I would still be at the same spot thinking and wanting something that wasn't mine to begin with. The universe was helping me all along, it always does...we just don't listen. In hindsight, there were FLAGS big RED FLAGS that I chose to ignore because I thought I'm a great person with a good heart and this person could never do that to me, but bad things happen to good people to help us learn to strengthen our selves to gain that love and respect that we lost because of someone that had no respect from him or her begin with. The universe gave me little trips along the way, I fell but brushed it off and kept going, holding on to hope but when  the universe slapped me hard I fell but guess what that turned everything around for me in the best way possible. If shady comes my way, I got no time for that shit. This might sound crazy but I would rather live that day when I found out he got married than to be married to him, this way the pain was temporary, but being married to a human like him would be a pain everyday...uh no thanks. TRUST ME guys, if you think that this guy or girl is great there are even BETTER people out there and better looking... awful people start to look hideous eventually (probably from all the wrinkles creasing on their forehead when they get upset at everyone else besides themselves). hehe. 

Enough with that , I do want to touch up on the readings that I did have about him and if I can turn back time only two people got it right from the get-go.
Lisa Diane: My first reading with her and I should have stopped there, her exact words to me ... "He will not give you what you are looking for, in fact hunny he is hiding another woman!"- BINGO, that he was. She's ethical, if anything after that reading she was just sweet to me, plus she knew things at times as if she was sitting beside us, quite eerie.
Queen of Cups18: Yes she is blunt but I love it (well now I do), her exact words were..."why do you want/like him, he is with someone else and is a player, he is just about hurting everyone." Yes true that.

As for Sincerity, I know there are mixed reviews about her but she did get the past right but didn't pick up on the fact that they had gotten back together (which would've helped me out tremendously), she is pretty good with being an empath and contact timing. 

I did call after finding out that he got married just to know if I was  ever going to hear from him (not sure if that was the wine talking or me wanting an apology from him) anyways, I spoke to Lisa Dianne, Queen of cups, Jade8926?, Lotus of Light - after I spoke to them, I just left it to the universe and started to focus on healing. One thing that helped me  impeccably was mediation, this was a savior for me! I connected with not just myself,  but with the universe and my angels, the people I should've trusted from the beginning. I learned to journal my thoughts, messages and desires, this helped me see things clearly but most importantly to attract GOOD hearted, well put together men. I have to say, there must of been a part of me that attracted a man like him, like attracts like and I do think at some point my spiritual journey took off and that had to happen for us to part.

For those of you wondering if he contacted me, YES he did, after 9 months of no contact he did. Let me tell you guys something, the universe does listen so careful what you put out there. When I saw that text, I was disgusted, only because I had now transformed into this woman that didn't recognize him. I gave him a text back that will stay with him forever or maybe not but I think he deserved to be told what kind of person he really is (just in case he had forgotten.) The readers that got it right about the contact were Lotus of Light, Jade8926(nailed it), Queen of Cups.

I think I'll stop here, thanks for reading lol, sorry super duper long.... Bottom line guys things only get better after a big tragedy like this, if you think this guy or girl is your plan...the universe has an even bigger and better plan for you.  Goodnight, lights out!

A great story - thanks so much for sharing. X
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 05, 2017, 11:14:01 AM
The point is that not only is she 2/10 (and not 4/10 anymore like I originally estimated) but she also had ditched him years ago. How can you love a person who ditched you for another man? This is unhealthy and does not resonate with me even when I think about it rationally.

You're totally right. It's a very unhealthy pattern to keep going back to someone who treats you badly, but it's something I've seen so many times now that I stopped even trying to inject the rational side into it. For some reason there are people who just want to stay in rollercoaster situations. My Father and Stepmother did it for 24 years until he passed away, and all that marriage was was cheating, lying, and arguing sun up and sun down. That marriage shouldn't have lasted 3 years, it was a war daily. But they kept coming back to each other.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Universal9 on October 05, 2017, 03:30:24 PM
I'd be careful of a lot of advice from Steve Harvey, a lot of it is questionable and rooted in playing on the emotions of desperate or deeply discouraged women. One also has to question the deeply misandric slants he takes, and although I realize he is targeting a female audience misandry certainly won't help the female-male dynamic as it just breeds into women the nonsense idea that men are less than them and other vitriol.

That said, I agree with this one bit of his, however before I throw the relationship away I would ask the guy straight up what the deal is. What women don't often realize is because men and women view things in differing ways a man may not recognize that at a specific moment something is important to a woman and that you were expecting a different outcome than the one the man provided you. I'm sure lots of relationships have broken up for just that one reason alone. If the woman verbalizes it (i.e. "why haven't you introduced me to your family?") and he still doesn't do it, then at that point you know something is wrong.

Whereas a man's primary source of love for a woman is her looks, women fall in love with men for different reasons. Looks is hardly at the top of the list, although it can be, it's just not the primary reason the way it is for men. Men do like women who are nice even if they cheated or dumped them previously. I know of a couple of situations like this and it’s something of a challenge to get that woman back and they look at themselves as one of the reasons why she left to begin with. It’s odd, but I know some loooong ass examples of this particular scenario.
I am curious, in these example you have known where the man thinks of this as sort of challenge and may be blames himself for her cheating on him, does these cases end up in a lasting marriage if any marriage at all? I am curious now.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 05, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
You're totally right. It's a very unhealthy pattern to keep going back to someone who treats you badly, but it's something I've seen so many times now that I stopped even trying to inject the rational side into it. For some reason there are people who just want to stay in rollercoaster situations. My Father and Stepmother did it for 24 years until he passed away, and all that marriage was was cheating, lying, and arguing sun up and sun down. That marriage shouldn't have lasted 3 years, it was a war daily. But they kept coming back to each other.
Just crazy. I have a cousin who's father is married and not to his mother. (Joe) is married and had an affair (mistress) with another woman (my cousin's mother) and she had four kids by him. They all have the same father and Joe never left his wife. The wife knows and never left the husband. Some crazy women don't even go after the guy for child support, saying stupid stuff like he has other obligations. What about your's. Some people will makecontinue to make excuses for others irrationally.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 05, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
I am curious, in these example you have known where the man thinks of this as sort of challenge and may be blames himself for her cheating on him, does these cases end up in a lasting marriage if any marriage at all? I am curious now.

Not in the examples that I know. I knew a married couple where the guy treated the ex who cheated on him better than the wife. The wife told me stories herself. He would go see his ex during a time when she was in the hospital, hang out with the ex for hours, but the ex left him for another man (which she didn’t marry) and she was a 2/10. That guy’s previous ex to the ex also left him for another man and he was still friends with her, continuing to treat the wife like crap. It didn’t make sense to me. They eventually divorced, but the wife still wanted to make it work. He was the one who decided he didn’t want to be married to her any more. I guess it was the one(s) that got away (in the back on his mind), and was the one he wanted the most. I can’t explain it. Relationships are more complex than math.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 05, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
How about blocking your poi on FB. Just not knowing will eventually turn into just not caring what he does or who he sees, will be much more beneficial for you.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 05, 2017, 05:11:20 PM
IKR. I have other FB alias as well, but it just takes time. I know when you're in something like I am currently. Time just seems so ginormous and you wish you were on the other side of it already....at least I do.

Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 05, 2017, 06:11:03 PM
How about blocking your poi on FB. Just not knowing will eventually turn into just not caring what he does or who he sees, will be much more beneficial for you.

This is what I'm building up to doing with my POI on the social media site we're both on. Just deleting her and blocking her.

I reached out to her in late May and told her how I felt + sent a connection invite, she then accepted the connection invite in mid June (still don't know what took her so long to decide to accept) but she never said a word in response to my opening up about how I felt about her. The funny part is, the site has a built-in stat app that shows me she reads everything I post on my page (not about her just about different subjects) but she never says a word. It's kinda creepy in a way that she's just hanging around reading all of my posts but not speaking  ???

People do weird things.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 05, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
Seeker, am sorry to hear she did not respond about how you felt; some response either way would have felt better to you... Why bother with social media sites if you can take it to personal messenger or whatsapp or something (if the opportunity presents itself)..
Coz anything we see on fb can trigger variety of reactions...as long as you know how to maneuver through those...

It wasn't on Facebook (can you believe I've never been an official member of Facebook!? :-), it's a different social media site. The site uses an instant messenger program, so every block of messages sent through the messenger gets sent to your email too. But if a person wants to respond the site or app you send a message through won't matter. Unfortunately, this site was literally the only way to contact her as she's not a member of any other site (she's a very private person), I didn't have her phone number anymore otherwise I would've just called her on the phone. I would've rather just saw her in person and told her face-to-face but that option wasn't available either as I don't know where she is.

At this point, I've come to terms with her not responding to the message where I opened up to her. However, what I'm not understanding is three-fold:

1. Why did she read the message, decide not to respond to it, but still accept the connection invitation? Makes no sense to me to do that, since if she didn't plan on saying anything why accept my invitation to connect? Why not just disappear entirely? (I actually would've preferred that).

2. What was she thinking in the 20 days it took her to accept my invitation?

3. Why is she creepily standing by reading all of my posts but not saying anything?

It's all just so strange.

I'd say this is an anomaly, but on a dating site back in July I sent an invite to connect with a lady in a closeby town, she accepted the request but then didn't say anything... bizarre. And the thing is, before you can accept a chat request on the site I was at, you have to see the person's picture and profile first so she obviously liked what she saw, but yet silence? Just bizarre. Even more bizarre, she's connected with me on the same site as my POI!

Only thing I can work out here is that when bizarre things like that happen the Universe has a different plan for you than the one you THINK you should have and it manifests itself through all sorts of things including the behaviors of others. I'm open and ready to accept what the Universe has for me, but time & waiting is a monster, even for someone with a lot of patience like me.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: mystery123 on October 05, 2017, 10:11:05 PM
Seeker, am sorry to hear she did not respond about how you felt; some response either way would have felt better to you... Why bother with social media sites if you can take it to personal messenger or whatsapp or something (if the opportunity presents itself)..
Coz anything we see on fb can trigger variety of reactions...as long as you know how to maneuver through those...

It wasn't on Facebook (can you believe I've never been an official member of Facebook!? :-), it's a different social media site. The site uses an instant messenger program, so every block of messages sent through the messenger gets sent to your email too. But if a person wants to respond the site or app you send a message through won't matter. Unfortunately, this site was literally the only way to contact her as she's not a member of any other site (she's a very private person), I didn't have her phone number anymore otherwise I would've just called her on the phone. I would've rather just saw her in person and told her face-to-face but that option wasn't available either as I don't know where she is.

At this point, I've come to terms with her not responding to the message where I opened up to her. However, what I'm not understanding is two-fold:

1. Why did she read the message, decide not to respond to it, but still accept the connection invitation? Makes no sense to me to do that, since if she didn't plan on saying anything why accept my invitation to connect? Why not just disappear entirely? (I actually would've preferred that).

2. What was she thinking in the 20 days it took her to accept my invitation?

3. Why is she creepily standing by reading all of my posts but not saying anything?

It's all just so strange.

I'd say this is an anomaly, but on a dating site back in July I sent an invite to connect with a lady in a closeby town, she accepted the request but then didn't say anything... bizarre. And the thing is, before you can accept a chat request on the site I was at, you have to see the person's picture and profile first so she obviously liked what she saw, but yet silence? Just bizarre. Even more bizarre, she's connected with me on the same site as my POI!

Only thing I can work out here is that when bizarre things like that happen the Universe has a different plan for you than the one you THINK you should have and it manifests itself through all sorts of things including the behaviors of others. I'm open and ready to accept what the Universe has for me, but time & waiting is a monster, even for someone with a lot of patience like me.

Well I am guilty of that too— I will sometimes accept requests from guys but then I expect them to send a message first. lol
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 06, 2017, 08:13:45 AM

Well I am guilty of that too— I will sometimes accept requests from guys but then I expect them to send a message first. lol

Guys pretty much expect it to be that way so it's not really a bad thing. It's just weird to have a chat request accepted, then you say something to the lady as harmless as "Hi, lovely lady, how are you today?" and you get silence.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 06, 2017, 05:02:20 PM
How about blocking your poi on FB. Just not knowing will eventually turn into just not caring what he does or who he sees, will be much more beneficial for you.

This is what I'm building up to doing with my POI on the social media site we're both on. Just deleting her and blocking her.

I reached out to her in late May and told her how I felt + sent a connection invite, she then accepted the connection invite in mid June (still don't know what took her so long to decide to accept) but she never said a word in response to my opening up about how I felt about her. The funny part is, the site has a built-in stat app that shows me she reads everything I post on my page (not about her just about different subjects) but she never says a word. It's kinda creepy in a way that she's just hanging around reading all of my posts but not speaking  ???

People do weird things.

And speaking of weird things, my POI has just now started 'liking' some of my posts at that site, lol. What is this lady doing???
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 06, 2017, 06:57:45 PM
Just saw your update now, if she has now started liking your posts, then, it is something positive indeed. However, I would wait till she responds to your message. This is so confusing! Cant put too much thought on likes but it is indication towards something positive so thats good..

Totally agree with you on the universe sending signs thing. I wish there is a way to decode those.

It is very confusing. My friends say the same thing, they don't understand what's happening either, a few have just chalked her up to be a weird person (which I know she kind of is but I actually liked that about her, lol).

To give a little background on her, she is very wary of relationships as she got burned really bad in the past. We talked about it. Psychic Paulina told me (and to Paulina's credit this was without me telling her anything about it) that she had a very bad betrayal in the past and it's hard now for her to see anyone as being different from that. Paulina said that she had been giving me signs that she liked me all along and her affection toward me was one, but she held back from going all the way because of her past situation as she's really scared and doesn't want it to happen to her again. Paulina also told me that over time she would still send out little signals and signs to me to let me know she still liked me and was thinking about me and that she would keep doing that until she built up enough inner strength to "come forward and tell you verbally how she feels".

So far, a lot of what Paulina said has been on point, but still, until/unless the message is replied to it doesn't really amount to much.

Before I contacted my POI, her name popped up a lot. But after a few days where she didn't reply to my message I was ready to move on as I assumed she wasn't interested. However, after that, her name started to pop up constantly on TV, and in advertisements with even greater intensity than before. I had to take it as a sign because her name is very unpopular on the list of popular American female names (it's not even in the Top 80, lol). You just won't see and hear uncommon names constantly like that, and I've always paid attention to names I hear as I've noticed in my life that certain names have had meanings to specific periods of my life, but this particular name is one I only heard one other time and that was of a character on a TV show I used to watch years ago. To suddenly keep hearing the name spoken and seeing it everywhere drove me nuts to the point where I was asking the Universe "I know you have a sense of humor, but can you put this one on the bench please?!?!?!?" ... It got so crazy that I'd be reading an obituary to find an old friend had passed away and suddenly to the right an article would pop up with my POI's name headlined. I'd go to a store and buy something, then need to return it a week later, I'd get a return receipt and lo and behold the service worker's name would be my POI's! LOL! Yeah, it was out of control. I still see her name pop up in odd places and situations, less frequent than before, but now it's more focused. For example, the name only pops up now around the subjects of dating, love, sex, and marriage. I've also noticed that before she does anything like accept an invite, read a post, or like a post, there is a temporary ramp up in the frequency of seeing/hearing her name, just like a recent ramp up and then came the like she sent.

Anyway, despite the current status, I'm not going to say anything to her. My position on this sort of thing is that once I've opened up to you the ball is now in your court. That said, this is a strange court. I know personally I wouldn't accept a connection invite, read all your posts, and then start liking them all of a sudden if I planned on never saying anything to you considering  that huge elephant still sitting in the room (the message), because all that would do is lead you on (unless she's the kind of person who enjoys doing that sort of thing which would be sad :-(  I've had lots of ladies over the years make advances and if I wasn't interested I didn't make any kind of friendly contact with them after that because I felt I'd just be leading them on which to me is a very evil thing to do.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: sawthelight on October 06, 2017, 11:26:00 PM
Hello Friends,

It has been quite a journey. I am done with psychic readings, while I did feel good temporarily and was given hope about things it looks like I wasted a lot of money. I don’t recommend any psychics at all, I wanted my POI back but he moved on and things are speeding up— he already introduced her to his family within 4 months while I actually dated him for 4 years and never met his family. I was gullible. That’s it he’s gone. I called him begrudgingly and it was clear as day he’s a stranger in my eyes... whichever psychic told me he will come back in 2 years Bc of unfinished business better be wrong because this asshole doesn’t deserve my time nor energy. Talk to your POI that’s how you know the truth, don’t be afraid it will push him/her away.. don’t be afraid to use your own intuition.

When someone in your life leaves let them go, it’s their loss... I’m learning this now and it’s sucks but it’s also relieving in a way. I will check this site time to time because I loved the positive affirmations and the camaraderie here. Thank you for all of your support & kind words when I was severely depressed. Wish you all the best 💖 Good luck! I will respond to some other boards shortly but I just wanted to say thank you to everyone again 😘


Little one,  I am so sorry for what you've gone through. No one really understands how low it feels until they've been there and lost so much money.  I'm glad you're moving forward and pray you are able to make peace with this. Best of luck to you

Well said! I agree good luck little one
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 10, 2017, 11:15:50 AM

That's a very interesting story. Thank you for sharing that!

The way I look at it, the universe only sends the signs, whether the outcome turns out good or bad is a separate matter unless the signs themselves included pieces of the outcome in which case that gives us a chance to prepare. Most of the time, signs are too subtle or too unclear in intent for us to prepare so we receive the signs without knowing how it will all end up or what to do in the meantime.

One thing I've come to accept about life is that there are no real accidents. Everything that happens is in concert with the course of your life. We may not like the circumstances or the outcomes but most of that is simply ego driven where we think we "deserve" something "more" or "better" and then we expect the universe to give it to us. I myself am very much guilty of that flaw, but I'm improving daily.

Since I have no desire to contact my POI with my message left unanswered, this can't end badly for me. If she never answers I will be fine without her. Besides, if you've spent time around a person who made a move on you and you open up tell them how you feel and all they can do is lurk your posts every day online and never speak, it's pretty obvious something isn't quite right with that person as that's not at all a normal thing to do.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 10, 2017, 03:38:11 PM
That's a very interesting story. Thank you for sharing that!

The way I look at it, the universe only sends the signs, whether the outcome turns out good or bad is a separate matter unless the signs themselves included pieces of the outcome in which case that gives us a chance to prepare. Most of the time, signs are too subtle or too unclear in intent for us to prepare so we receive the signs without knowing how it will all end up or what to do in the meantime.

One thing I've come to accept about life is that there are no real accidents. Everything that happens is in concert with the course of your life. We may not like the circumstances or the outcomes but most of that is simply ego driven where we think we "deserve" something "more" or "better" and then we expect the universe to give it to us. I myself am very much guilty of that flaw, but I'm improving daily.

Since I have no desire to contact my POI with my message left unanswered, this can't end badly for me. If she never answers I will be fine without her. Besides, if you've spent time around a person who made a move on you and you open up tell them how you feel and all they can do is lurk your posts every day online and never speak, it's pretty obvious something isn't quite right with that person as that's not at all a normal thing to do.

Signs are sooooooo objective. I'm even starting to wean myself of using that kind of lingo anymore. Our interpretation of signs is a whole other story altogether. You're last comment is not necessarily true. I do get what you're saying though that if you've told someone how you feel and they don't reciprocate, then you really do have to look at it as if that's your answer or their lack of an answer means they are not interested, but Social Media is the new normal and lurking is what many people do now in this day and age.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 10, 2017, 04:06:15 PM
The non-reciprocation I can understand, it's the accepting the connection invite, lurking, reading, and liking of posts in this type of circumstance that comes across as very bizarre to me. What makes it even more bizarre is that if when I checked her activity I noticed that in all the years she's been there she has never liked (or even commented) on anything besides my post, and at that site you can't erase your activity history there and the history goes all the way back to the day you sign up.

If that's the new normal I find that pretty scary. It would be like, if I saw you and turned you down (didn't reply to message) but kept hanging around you every day (lurking), listening to your conversations (reading), and even clapping when you say something I dig (hitting the like button), lol.

I could never do any of those things without feeling ultra weird.

If she has nothing to say ever I'm sure she'll disappear eventually.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 10, 2017, 04:35:53 PM
Signs are sooooooo objective. I'm even starting to wean myself of using that kind of lingo anymore. Our interpretation of signs is a whole other story altogether.

One of the things I learned from Hans Wilhelm was that each of our life paths are uniquely tailored to us individually. Considering that, I can think of times in my life where signs popped up and when I communicated them to other people they simply thought I was crazy... but, then the thing the signs were attached to came to fruition. So I think in that regard the signs are subjective because they are to be interpreted by the individual and others may not interpret them the same way as the person receiving them because, well, the message isn't meant for them.

I've only ever had signs this intense in my entire life before with a previous relationship. It was 6 months of that person's name popping up constantly, daily, everywhere until the day she showed up and we got together. I was deeply in love with that woman. I don't feel that same way about this POI, but I definitely have feelings there. Not saying that the "destined" outcome with this POI is to be like the other situation, but it's worth noting.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 10, 2017, 04:52:39 PM
No, I meant our own interpretation of the signs, not what a friend or reader sees. If readers can misinterpret signs, we can too, especially if it's our own life. I've had plenty of signs or thought that these were signs giving me affirmations, but then nothing come from it but heartache.

Personally, I’m just starting to renege on the whole sign outlook altogether. I can’t read the damn things, don’t know what they are saying, don’t know if it’s going to happen or not, can’t hear what the universe is giving me. I’m starting to believe it’s another ploy we’ve bought into, like the soulmate dilemma or the American dream, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: HornetKick on October 10, 2017, 06:12:45 PM
Yes, that is the key term: practical.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 10, 2017, 06:14:56 PM
No, I meant our own interpretation of the signs, not what a friend or reader sees. If readers can misinterpret signs, we can too, especially if it's our own life. I've had plenty of signs or thought that these were signs giving me affirmations, but then nothing come from it but heartache.

Certainly. I think the Psychic industry is rich in big part because of that. Fortunately for me I've only spent about $20-$25 on psychics all of these years, so for the most part I've been able to interpret a great deal on my own, but in these two cases (one of them being the current) it was weird enough for me to entertain an outside psychic perspective.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: sawthelight on October 10, 2017, 06:26:02 PM
The non-reciprocation I can understand, it's the accepting the connection invite, lurking, reading, and liking of posts in this type of circumstance that comes across as very bizarre to me. What makes it even more bizarre is that if when I checked her activity I noticed that in all the years she's been there she has never liked (or even commented) on anything besides my post, and at that site you can't erase your activity history there and the history goes all the way back to the day you sign up.

If that's the new normal I find that pretty scary. It would be like, if I saw you and turned you down (didn't reply to message) but kept hanging around you every day (lurking), listening to your conversations (reading), and even clapping when you say something I dig (hitting the like button), lol.

I could never do any of those things without feeling ultra weird.

If she has nothing to say ever I'm sure she'll disappear eventually.

Well I can tell you, just from my own experience, that I have lurked on other people's FB, social media etc, and had no interest in them.  in my case, it's just boredom, honestly lol.  Of course, that's just me and I don't know what your POI is thinking.  And i agree it's very strange that she's had no activity other than lurking around your stuff  :o
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: Seeker on October 10, 2017, 06:38:32 PM
The non-reciprocation I can understand, it's the accepting the connection invite, lurking, reading, and liking of posts in this type of circumstance that comes across as very bizarre to me. What makes it even more bizarre is that if when I checked her activity I noticed that in all the years she's been there she has never liked (or even commented) on anything besides my post, and at that site you can't erase your activity history there and the history goes all the way back to the day you sign up.

If that's the new normal I find that pretty scary. It would be like, if I saw you and turned you down (didn't reply to message) but kept hanging around you every day (lurking), listening to your conversations (reading), and even clapping when you say something I dig (hitting the like button), lol.

I could never do any of those things without feeling ultra weird.

If she has nothing to say ever I'm sure she'll disappear eventually.

Well I can tell you, just from my own experience, that I have lurked on other people's FB, social media etc, and had no interest in them.  in my case, it's just boredom, honestly lol.

We all do that. I do it. You go on a site, you look around at what people are doing, that's totally normal. But the question is, did you do that with someone who opened up to you and you didn't reply but instead just accepted an invite to connect and kept hanging around lurking, reading, and liking that person's posts every day but not saying anything?

Just lurking is fine and totally normal to do, but it's doing it after the specific condition of being opened up to that changes the dynamic because that's going to make the other person puzzled as to what the point of it is. Then you throw in the fact of having no other activity and it gets even stranger.
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: sawthelight on October 10, 2017, 06:45:45 PM
The non-reciprocation I can understand, it's the accepting the connection invite, lurking, reading, and liking of posts in this type of circumstance that comes across as very bizarre to me. What makes it even more bizarre is that if when I checked her activity I noticed that in all the years she's been there she has never liked (or even commented) on anything besides my post, and at that site you can't erase your activity history there and the history goes all the way back to the day you sign up.

If that's the new normal I find that pretty scary. It would be like, if I saw you and turned you down (didn't reply to message) but kept hanging around you every day (lurking), listening to your conversations (reading), and even clapping when you say something I dig (hitting the like button), lol.

I could never do any of those things without feeling ultra weird.

If she has nothing to say ever I'm sure she'll disappear eventually.

Well I can tell you, just from my own experience, that I have lurked on other people's FB, social media etc, and had no interest in them.  in my case, it's just boredom, honestly lol.

We all do that. I do it. You go on a site, you look around at what people are doing, that's totally normal. But the question is, did you do that with someone who opened up to you and you didn't reply but instead just accepted an invite to connect and kept hanging around lurking, reading, and liking that person's posts every day but not saying anything?

Just lurking is fine and totally normal to do, but it's doing it after the specific condition of being opened up to that changes the dynamic because that's going to make the other person puzzled as to what the point of it is. Then you throw in the fact of having no other activity and it gets even stranger.

Yea, that's extremely bizarre, I agree. 
Title: Re: Goodbye
Post by: njlady on April 11, 2018, 05:12:03 PM
I'd be careful of a lot of advice from Steve Harvey, a lot of it is questionable and rooted in playing on the emotions of desperate or deeply discouraged women. One also has to question the deeply misandric slants he takes, and although I realize he is targeting a female audience misandry certainly won't help the female-male dynamic as it just breeds into women the nonsense idea that men are less than them and other vitriol.

That said, I agree with this one bit of his, however before I throw the relationship away I would ask the guy straight up what the deal is. What women don't often realize is because men and women view things in differing ways a man may not recognize that at a specific moment something is important to a woman and that you were expecting a different outcome than the one the man provided you. I'm sure lots of relationships have broken up for just that one reason alone. If the woman verbalizes it (i.e. "why haven't you introduced me to your family?") and he still doesn't do it, then at that point you know something is wrong.

I was going to say something to that effect about Steve Harvey, because he is on his what…fourth wife? And if you’ve heard what some of the previous wives have said, he didn’t dump them like a kind person would (the way he likes people to think that he is). He generally was onto his next wife before he told the current one. I don’t know him personally, but we all should consider the source.
 

I just saw this. 

He's been married 3 times, so he has 2 ex's.  He broke up with his first wife to pursue his dream of being a comedian, which clearly worked out pretty well.  No other woman involved. 

His second ex was was admonished by the Judge for providing false information to the court, such as claiming she was penniless, homeless and could not afford an attorney when in fact Steve was paying her $40,000.00 a month in support and had given her 3 homes.  It got so bad and she got so crazy, at one point making a series of youtube videos after a gag order was issued that the judge eventually jailed her in contempt of court.  Last year she sued him for "torture, kidnapping and murder (she claims he murdered her soul)" among other things.  Consider that source.  CAF. 

Some people don't learn anything from past experiences.  I listen to his radio show a lot and he's a very smart man and he gives good relationship advice.  He thinks women should set the bar high.  I agree.