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Metaphysical, Spiritual and Psychic Discussions => The Polls => Topic started by: Luckystar on July 20, 2012, 08:48:33 PM
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Ok so i am an astrology lover and tend to do alot of research on the subject as a hobby. While researching the topic of astrological predictions for the presidential election of 2012 today, i came across psychic predictions on who different psychics thought would win this year. It is honestly very mixed, it's almost 50/50 (i read as many as i could). Some of them are predicting a re-elect for Obama, some say Romney will win....others just said it would be a really close call. What do you guys think? Have any of you asked any readers what their predictions are? Interesting to think about, it can obviously be validated in the future.
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i did a chart myself, for him. i think Obama will win. he has some good stuff happening on the Astrology front.
i've also heard 2 other cases of Astrologers having good reputations saying he will win. one used an Aries Ingress chart, which apparently has worked on showing (all?) past results in winners. i haven't used the method myself, but this person (that i read about) has a lot of experience with it.
link: http://astrologynewsservice.com/newsmaker-interviews/astrology-study-successfully-picks-presidential-winners-and-losers/
the other person was a recent class i took with Ken Bowser who uses sidereal Astro with Solar Returns and Progressions. he is 100% confident that Obama will win as well. he also showed us a chart on Romney, as comparison, and showed the negative aspects happening to him at the time. so it was a stark difference.
anyways, i just did a chart on Obama (not Romney) and it seemed rather positive.
i guess we'll see!
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Apparently he does have some good planetary action going on. His chart appears to be more favorable for a re-election....but who knows because look what i found.
"Since Mercury turns retrograde on the day of the election on November 6, it is tempting to think about some unpredictable situations that may arise around the administration of the election."
>>There might be some technical issues as far as calculations go.
It caught my attention though when i read that the psychic twins predicted he would lose. They have been right about many things.
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I keep forgetting to throw in the presidential question in my readings. I want to know who will win the election.
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Obama will win. That is my prediction.
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Do you really need planetary action to make a call on this one? I don't particularly like Obama, but Romney is a disaster and out of two poor candidates Obama is definitely the better choice. Romney has isolated a lot of Americans and the things that have come out of his mouth are shocking.
Most likely Obama will win. If not, then that says a lot about where the country is going over the next few years. Pity no one is in Ron Paul's corner. He's the only one who understand economics
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@jdd2003- do you know what forum you are on? This isn't a pissing contest to prove who is the smartest/brightest, most opinionated person on the forum.
Keep your negative stuff to yourself and don't judge others for looking at different ways to look at things. Astrology falls under psychic stuff.
You are coming off like an ass. If you have an opinion please feel free to state whatever your opinion is but don't slam others for ways of looking at things.
When I read posts such as yours it's no wonder why no one wants to post anymore. Your attitude is terrible. Not impressed this morning whatsoever.
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Oh, get over it. If you're going to ask a psychic a question to gauge accuracy then it's best to use one that will be free of any influence. Do you think psychics don't read/listen to the news? They will have their own opinions and preferences on that and it's not exactly fair to ask that kind of question.
Furthermore, is astrology really going to foretell the next president? Maybe. Probably not though. But if it takes your fancy to test it, go ahead. I just happen to think it's a bit too simplistic for such a layer and complex scenario.
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jdd - how much do you know about Astrology?
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Quite a lot as it happens.
But you're asking astrology, the thread says psychics. This isn't the same thing.
Re asking psychics this type of question, I stand firm that I think it's not balanced enough as their personal feelings or viewpoints may come into the mix. Not sure if I'm making sense. Been a long day.
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oh. i'm surprised you would say Astrology is simplistic then if you know a lot about it. it's pretty complex if you ask me.
i agree that asking them would be tainted with a lot of color on their personal views and hopes, etc. plus, it's 50/50 really. some will be right and some will be wrong.
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Astrology is a tool that alot of psychics use, that's why it is being discussed here.
As far as psychics having their personal views and feelings in the mix regarding an election prediction, i agree.
I am not psychic, but i like to use astrology as a guidance tool and if you get it right, you can make predictions from it. This is why i love it so much, because i naturally wasn't born a clairvoyant or medium yet can get information from having astrological knowledge.
When you really get into it and have the details right, not only is the information accurate, it's also fun :)
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i hope obama wins... just to prove the psychic twins wrong! they claimed he would be a one time president.
Lloyd states Obama will win, so I can't wait to see how this pans out.
Luckystar, I'm surprised you haven't read with Lloyd Strayhorn, there is a thread about him here (I am a fan). He gives freebies through his facebook page, which ended up making a believer out of me he was so accurate. Keep in mind, he is not psychic and states he has just been doing astro-numerology for a long time.
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I will definitely check him out...thanks!!
I am going to do a little research on the astro activity before the election and then come back and share what i think will happen...but it already looks like there could be problems since mercury retrograde starts that night.
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Luckystar, I used to think the same thing, but a tarot reader actually just explained the difference to me. Apparently it's not the same thing. Who knows...maybe it's a matter of opinion amongst readers what constitutes what.
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Apparently it's not the same thing.
Umm. okay, what are you talking about? I just stated that astrology was a tool that some psychics use. I never said that by using astrology you can make PSYCHIC predictions.
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Supposedly psychics are not supposed to used tools to make their predictions, but rather place reliance on clairaudience/clairvoyance etc. I don't know if that's true, but that's what I was told by a reader. But if we're talking about using astrology alone, then that's a different matter
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I don't know who the heck told you that psychics shouldn't use tools. That's like saying a surgeon should use all the education and courses available to them nor should they use all the tools in the operating room to perform a procedure.
It's a matter of opinion. A person can be an astrologer, a medium, an empath etc. The word *psychic* seems to be the general word for someone who is gifted. I don't know very many *psychics* that don't use cards or whatever there poison to do readings.
I see a psychic live here in my city once a year. She's phenomenal, lives and breathes astrology. The first 45 min of her reading is all about charts and where you are in your cycle or where whomever you are asking about is in their cycle. Then for the last 45 minutes of the reading she pulls out her tarot cards and tells me what's coming up in the future. Along with that, she's caught me completely off guard before the reading and ask me how my kickboxing classes were. I had JUST gone back that week and I never even told her that I was ever involved in kickboxing as it was never something that came up in my reading with her. Another thing she pulled out of her hat was her telling me that there was a tall men dressed really well standing behind me. She said he told her that his name was Barrie and that he was my grandfather's father.
Uh... My mother had just pulled out some pictures maybe a month prior and introduced me to my great grandfather Barrie who was a teacher. Ya, freaky stuff.
But that's thing. What is this woman? Is she a medium, an astrologer, a psychic? I don't know what to call her she's so multi-talented on the spiritual playing field.
So ya, psychics use tools, guides whatever their poison. I know northstarjulie doesn't call herself a psychic, she calls herself a card reader. But do you really think that pulling cards and laying out a spread answering questions about a specific person that happened to actually be the truth and confirmed in reality, are we going to call Julie a non-psychic? C'mon. It's just a title. I call them gifted.
And another question, what about cookie? She's an amazing remote viewer. She hears things, sees things about ones past a future. Is she a psychic or is she a remote viewer?
I think anyone that can see your past, future, present, tell you how things are going to be coming up, reads cards accurately, practises numerology and is accurate, practises clairaudience/clairvoyance etc. well, in my opinion, are all gifted or psychic, tools and all.
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Hey Truth, possible bad news.>> http://www.neptunecafe.com/election2012.html
Inauguration Day
To verify what the signals seem to be saying on Election day, I compared the conditions of each candidate's chart on Inauguration Day, January 20, 2013. Looking at Obama's chart, the planetary flags are surprisingly few. There are zero progressions involving his Midheaven, while his progressed Pluto at 8º Virgo squares his 10th house Part of Fortune at 8º Sagittarius. That's not good. The transiting Sun at 0º Aquarius conjoins his natal Jupiter, so that he will be a presence on Inauguration Day. Note that transiting Mercury at 2º Aquarius is exactly opposite his natal Mercury. This looks to me like a hand off to his successor.
In contrast, Romney's chart looks like gold. As described last week, his progressed Midheaven at 11º15' Aries closely trines his natal Pluto (orb: 0º06'), which describes a once-in-a-lifetime personal empowerment. His progressed Part of Fortune at 17º Gemini conjoins Uranus, the ruler of his Midheaven. Transiting Jupiter and Uranus are favorably aspecting his Midheaven, a lucky combination that often brings fame, celebrity and honors.
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hmm. interesting.
do you know Romney's birth info by chance?
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to me it totally makes sense because I do not think being a president is really a good thing to begin with ;D
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Obenim, can you elaborate on that last statement....not sure what you meant.
Truth i took a look at his chart a few weeks ago. You can google the astrology of Mitt Romney (and Obama) and people have dissected and analyzed them in every way.
Romney has alot of water in his chart and i think i read that Pisces men are not usually elected as presidents (looking at history), but i guess we will just have to wait.
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I was trying to say that I do not think it is a good thing to be a president of a country, like too much work, too much responsability, too much expectations, too uch everything basically and no life :) So to me, if it looks like on that day one of them has better astrological picture, then that one perhaps will not be the president and will live and enjoy his life :)
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a lucky combination that often brings fame, celebrity and honors.
Just running for President makes one a celebrity. Does McCain and Palin come to mind?
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I love to gloat so let me start by saying, there was a 50/50 chance some of these world renowned psychics could have easily gotten the election right, but does this make them feel like idiots when they are wrong? I would love to hear what default response they use to explain away how massively incorrect they were, especially those twins: Linda and Terry Jameson. Yes, the race was close so I'm sure they still have their supporters.
I specifically contacted Lloyd Strayhorn about the Presidency and he not only told me that yes Barry (Obama) would win the reelection, but Lloyd has a youtube video takling about this months, if not years in advance. He also predicted another child for Beyonce and I thought I came across an article about this, but they aren't talking as usual.
He is of course fabulous, but don't forget he gives freebie readings, about 4-5 mins long.
Anyway, Happy Election people.
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Yes i totally get what you mean about the 50/50 chance.
http://themoderatevoice.com/133413/psychic-predictions-2012-politics-and-more/
Here is where i read most of the predictions beforehand. Denise Siegel seems to have a pretty good track record for predictions in elections.
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I think its fair to say Mercury Retrograde did not impact this election!! Also, glad to see my own prediction from this thread was accurate. Hahah. Maybe I should start a phone line?
In all seriousness though, I would love to hear psychics explain how they are incorrect on the final outcome for the election. They should have a clue.
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It would probably be more b.s. as to why such and such didn't happen.
And honestly, I can't see how Psychic Nikki is so great either. She said some things right and some things anyone could have said to make right.
First of all, why must she dress or act the part of being a witch (holding a crystal ball, severely heavy eyeshadow). Can't she just be like everyone else and be a legitimate psychic?....so annoying.
She did say it was a tight race but she never specifically said Obama would win, just that she was feeling stronger about him. Yeah so what? Sorry, this isn't accuracy to me.
The political havoc at polling stations (the woman being Sandy) I took to mean a human, but here again it seems like she misinterprets, like many readers do.
Anyway, there was no miscount as she posted; and the biggest thing that would make me stay away from Nikki is when she said, [she feels the presence of danger around Obama and the election. “I hope that there’s no danger around him but I do get that all the time,” she said.]
Well sorry but you can find this information anywhere. He receives the most death treats out of any President in the U.S., perhaps because he is black? This isn't mind blowing information.
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@truelove: can I be your first client please ;o)-
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In all seriousness though, I would love to hear psychics explain how they are incorrect on the final outcome for the election. They should have a clue.
I hope this gives some people proof that ALL psychics are never right about EVERYTHING. Those psychic twins Linda and Terry are extremely expensive and they do have a high accuracy rate. I really wonder why they predicted Obama as a "one term president."
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You know u can sign up on bitwine for free. They do have astrologers on there too.
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Also since we are on the subject of mercury retrograde (which i agree did not effect the voting process much yesterday evening), usually has an effect on relationships in that if you start one while we are in this period astrologically it is unlikely to last. Just a heads up for anyone who is making any clear cut decisions at the moment.
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I don't mind that psychics are wrong. I really don't. I just mind when you return and tell them this and they place the blame on you for doing something that would have made them right. All humans are wrong at some point or other, but when you charge me and I want a portion of my money back, for your inaccuracies, it shouldn't be because I'm at fault, just that YOU misinterpreted. I wonder if this is why readers stay general so much.
Also, the retrograde thing is stronger as a distraction when something has started during this period. If anything happens to already be in place, retrograde shouldn't affect it, right? This seems to be the general consensus. This makes more sense to me now. Some retrogrades have been intense for me but now I believe it's because I was told it was a retrograde.
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Zee all i know is that i won't be getting married during a retrograde period :)
I study celebrity couple charts for fun and most marriages end if they start in this period. Not saying it's always the case, or that it is even the reason for it failing, it just doesn't help as far as i know.
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It's interesting. Do you have any examples? With the celebrity marriages I mean.
This is about reader MadeaMichelle, who cancelled our chat on bitwine saying I gave her too much information because she reads a specific way. I had given her a test question and told her it wasn’t a lot of information. I asked her if I would get the job, already knowing I didn’t, then added the name of the person who I interviewed with.
Previously, we had been emailing each other through bitwine about manifesting and she said she taught classes a couple times a year and asked if I was interested. As you well know, the only way on bitwine to start a message is directly from a readers’ page.
Well, I found her on Keen, not knowing she was there and asked if we could set up a reading. I tried to find her again on bitwine and couldn’t pull her up in their search so I had to google it. She has a hyphen in her name on bitwine, but it’s one word on Keen. You must be exact when searching on bitwine.
She sent me a note from Keen, saying she can't take callers from bitwine for people who are on Keen. I didn't mention one site on the other or anything; I just said hello, I didn't know you were on here too and told her my signon because they are very similar. She flat out blocked me and told me she could lose her job. This was just too bizarre considering I would think all the sites know that one person would have multiple accounts on other sites, as do readers. Even though I only have one account on Keen and one on bitwine, it just made me think she is whacked.
Can anyone confirm if this is true?
Recently, I blocked a reader on Keen and they emailed me from their site, asking if we can discuss why they were blocked. This reader isn’t on bitwine but she didn’t seem too concerned about losing her job by emailing from another source. WTH?
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They also predicted a cute for cancer or AIDS, can't remember which, by 2010 or something. Yeah...
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@truelove: can I be your first client please ;o)-
@O! hahaha. Sure.
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Luckystar, I agree with the prospect that a psychic cannot be right on everything. I think its a good lesson for most to learn. They are human after all and connect differently with different people.
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It's interesting. Do you have any examples? With the celebrity marriages I mean.
I suppose i should start documenting my findings huh? ; )
A few that i can recall that married during mercury retrograde....Christina Aguilera and Jordan (not sure of last name), Kim Kardashian and her 72 day marriage to Kris Humphries.....I think Katy Perry and Russell brand also got married during a retrograde but i will have to double check. It's probably worth noting that venus retrograde is just as worse....if not worse. Ex- Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony.....of course, she has been married several times.
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I can't confirm whether it is true, but I would imagine each reader signs some sort of agreement with each forum, agreeing not to take clients from one site to another. While that perhaps is true, in this case, I don't sense she ws really doing that, though.
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Zee,
I'm curious. If you acknowledge that no psychic can be right all of the time, why would you expect to get a portion of your money back when someone gives information that is not totally correct? I mean, I can understand if you believe that they *should* be right all the time, that you'd feel as if they were not providing the services you expected, but if you intuitively know that they can't be accurate 100% of the time, why would you ask for a refund?
I don't mind that psychics are wrong. I really don't. I just mind when you return and tell them this and they place the blame on you for doing something that would have made them right. All humans are wrong at some point or other, but when you charge me and I want a portion of my money back, for your inaccuracies, it shouldn't be because I'm at fault, just that YOU misinterpreted. I wonder if this is why readers stay general so much.
Also, the retrograde thing is stronger as a distraction when something has started during this period. If anything happens to already be in place, retrograde shouldn't affect it, right? This seems to be the general consensus. This makes more sense to me now. Some retrogrades have been intense for me but now I believe it's because I was told it was a retrograde.
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Really? Her reviews on keen are far from bad. I did read with her, and she requires that you email her beforehand as she prays before a reading. Perhaps that is why she blocked you? Also, while I read with her early on, and at that time I was probably giving out more information than I should have, she did grasp the situation quickly for me. Her timing has been off for me, as to contact, but as I have said all along, contact timing is just icing on the cake - the outcome, for me, is everything.
In regards to MadeaMichelle- she is another reader who blocked me without reason. And this was while she was at her ridicoulus $16 phase during the holidays two years ago. I did find some her blogs and enjoyed reading them... But I'm starting to get the impression she lives in fear of bad reviews, and a fraud by her fluctuating price range. I guess I should be thanking her since i never read with her, I do see she gets very bad reviews and has been inaccurate with those.
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i read with Madea Michelle years ago. she refused to read for me on Keen, but told me to call her through some other site. i dont remember what it was, but i know i had to sign up for a click 4 advisor account. she seemed okay on the phone, at the time. didn't say anything that blew me away. however, she made some really grand predictions that still have not happened to this day. it was all about an ex coming back. this was 3-4 years ago
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Zee,
I'm curious. If you acknowledge that no psychic can be right all of the time, why would you expect to get a portion of your money back when someone gives information that is not totally correct? I mean, I can understand if you believe that they *should* be right all the time, that you'd feel as if they were not providing the services you expected, but if you intuitively know that they can't be accurate 100% of the time, why would you ask for a refund?
smee2 to answer your question, I often ask the psychic how good they are at predictions, if they can see the month, if they are reading for the current year, or how they see these things, or do they even do timing, all that stuff. Many tell me yes that they have a high accuracy rate and if they see leaves on the ground, they know it’s fall, that sort of thing. There have been plenty of times when I have never asked for a prediction, but the reader gives it anyway.
I'm just trying to see how readers justify their prices. Just like the psychic twins, expensive as all get out, but nothing to back it up. It's no different if I bought something in the store, like that Jupiter Jack crap. It didn't work for my type of phone, although nowhere was this listed on the packaging. It only states the phone type, after it is opened. The packaging was that hard, plastic coating that covered the product, which has to be cut to get into it and where some stores won’t refund it, if it’s open. Before I purchased it, I asked if a refund was permissible and was told yes, even if it was opened (I purchased it from WalGreens). That dissolved my dilemma about if it didn't work and the possible waste of money or if I could get my money back; same exact thing with psychics. What protects consumers from those who aren't accurate (who claim they are?) I honestly feel they need to be more responsible for how they interpret because they are dealing with people’s lives.