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Army:
I just re-read what heartstrong said..Heartstrong actually is right..
Many women do call for that reason.. and there are so many women that call over a man who is already married as I have seen on here too.. and then when there is a reader that tells them the actual reality.. they discredit the reader and talk crap about the reader..

JessicaDuBois:
I think the idea is to understand how much scam and fraud and lack of ethics goes in to the making of a site line Keen.  I’ve had honest feedback removed.  I’ve been called a basher.  I am on lists that advisors circulate for various reasons.  I have been accused of being a Keen advisor…apparently most recently in this forum.  And why?  Because someone who isn’t actually accurate says things that are not true and they get mad when I make a review. 

I would never say all are frauds and fakes, but I suspect most are.

Some are outright nasty and destructive, but that’s a different story.

Keen advisors share details about callers.  Not all advisors and not about all clients, but that they do this is a fact.





Live and love:
Again I keep asking and no one as of yet has had an answer. How do the advisors benefit from sharing info about us?   Unless they are all pooling their incomes, or it is one person with a bunch of advisor accounts,  why on earth would they want to share their client  info that could certainly make another advisor look better than themselves?  I mean to say that if I were an advisor and someone told me that they were going on a cruise around the world with their poi in July, why would I want to share that info with other advisors ,  enabling them  pretend  to  spontaneously "pick up " on a cruise in July, making them look brilliantly gifted , while I look fake or at best just okay? That would be a lot of potential future income that I would have given away to another - in effect down the drain for me, don't you think?  This topic comes up alot and I have yet to understand the logic, sorry.

jackY:
EXACTLY. Sharing "frustrations" in a forum does not equal "sharing notes amongst advisors". "Someone" told me once that keen doesn't allow specific names to be posted in their forums. Sooo...


--- Quote from: Live and love on June 02, 2023, 11:33:36 PM ---Again I keep asking and no one as of yet has had an answer. How do the advisors benefit from sharing info about us?   Unless they are all pooling their incomes, or it is one person with a bunch of advisor accounts,  why on earth would they want to share their client  info that could certainly make another advisor look better than themselves?  I mean to say that if I were an advisor and someone told me that they were going on a cruise around the world with their poi , would I want to share that info with other advisors  enabling them to pretend  to  "pick up" on that cruise detail, making them look brilliantly gifted , while I look fake or at best just okay? That's a lot of potential future income down the drain, don't you think?  This topic comes up alot and I have yet to understand the logic, sorry.

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JessicaDuBois:
Why do they do it?   I would assume there are money and ego angles.  Just like almost every form of cheating and fraud activity on earth.

Are you implying that, because you can’t fathom WHY people would do it, that they don’t do it ?  I mean, you are entitled to that belief.  I don’t know why they do it, aside from making their friends look good…maybe there is social pressure or expectation amongst cliques.   Also, maybe Keen and other platforms train on this, I don’t know.  I do know that within Keen there are clusters of advisors that are part of the same company (same Tax Id).  I’ve had calls with advisors who have referred me to others in their cluster.  I think smaller companies have also been purchased or absorbed.  Does this mean they are frauds, no, not out of the gate.  They do benefit from having their cluster excel, even if they don’t share funds.  Though you brought up an interesting thought…maybe they DO pool, I don’t know.

Understanding this is like trying to understand why people engage in fraud at all.  Good people just generally won’t get it because they don’t think like that.  Why works endlessly to defraud someone when you can just get a job?  But not everyone is good or raised with honest work effort.




--- Quote from: Live and love on June 02, 2023, 11:33:36 PM ---Again I keep asking and no one as of yet has had an answer. How do the advisors benefit from sharing info about us?   Unless they are all pooling their incomes, or it is one person with a bunch of advisor accounts,  why on earth would they want to share their client  info that could certainly make another advisor look better than themselves?  I mean to say that if I were an advisor and someone told me that they were going on a cruise around the world with their poi in July, why would I want to share that info with other advisors ,  enabling them  pretend  to  spontaneously "pick up " on a cruise in July, making them look brilliantly gifted , while I look fake or at best just okay? That would be a lot of potential future income that I would have given away to another - in effect down the drain for me, don't you think?  This topic comes up alot and I have yet to understand the logic, sorry.

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