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I got tested for coronavirus and......
Lyssa:
Ok, let me be clear. I didn’t say you said that. Telling people to avoid the flu shot, a vaccination against a contagious and potentially fatal disease is irresponsible and ignorant so please stop. It is scientifically proven to save lives and reduce severity. It very likely saved my mother’s life who has an autoimmune disease and came down with a mild case of flu this year, has she not been vaccinated, it would have likely been much worse.. So just stop and I think it’s obvious that I’m referring to your specific comment on the flu vaccine, not all vaccines, so coming back at me that I am ignorant or referring to anything but that is just you trying to prove something that you are flat out wrong about so please stop. I am and have always been sick and tired those who don’t get a flu vaccine when one is available. The flu has been as bad or worse than the current pandemic. The last major flu pandemic was in 1918 and killed at least 50 million people. Has that happened since the vaccine has been available? No. You telling people to avoid the flu vaccine is part of the problem. People who have died from the flu that didn’t get vaccinated, I’m sure very much wish they would have gotten one. I’m done now. My ignorant self is going to go work on developing an at home test for the current pandemic.
HornetKick:
--- Quote from: th3awakened1 on March 19, 2020, 08:08:57 AM ---First all stop arguing with others that are firm in their beliefs. You have your beliefs and others have theirs, stop trying to change that. I personally do not believe much in modern medicine and watched my parent suffer from cancer while doctors kept withholding treatment over issues I felt did not correlate as to why chemo wasn't happening. They kept sending them home too and each time they ended up in the hospital the stints got longer and longer. This healthcare system is broken whether you want to believe it or not, why do I believe that because of the overall lack of communication between dr to dr. The right hand doesn't talk to the left hand, they look at the chart as to treatment given and formulate their recommendations of further treatment moving forward. Do vaccines help? Yes, but I have never been sicker than when I have gotten flu shots vs when I didn't. Practicing thr tips they are stating and pushing right now show always be happening if you want to stay healthy, but some people in this world it takes a pandemic to actually listen. Been social distancing for years during flu and cold season and would get called a homebody or a hermit but now this is a recommendation?! I loved that song before it was mainstream is my response...People should have been doing it for years and years but nope I went years being exposed to other people bringing their contagion or their kids contagion to work because they still need a paycheck, flu shot or not, they never cared. In the past 10 years, i've gotten pink eye, strep twice, multiple instances of bronchitis infections, nasty flu's regardless of shot vs no shot because of my exposure to coworkers bringing their airborne toxic gunk to work with I'll kids cause yet again,"I need my paycheck."
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Exactly. A voice of reason.
HornetKick:
--- Quote from: Lyssa on March 19, 2020, 07:24:01 AM ---Ok, let me be clear. I didn’t say you said that. Telling people to avoid the flu shot, a vaccination against a contagious and potentially fatal disease is irresponsible and ignorant so please stop. It is scientifically proven to save lives and reduce severity. It very likely saved my mother’s life who has an autoimmune disease and came down with a mild case of flu this year, has she not been vaccinated, it would have likely been much worse.. So just stop and I think it’s obvious that I’m referring to your specific comment on the flu vaccine, not all vaccines, so coming back at me that I am ignorant or referring to anything but that is just you trying to prove something that you are flat out wrong about so please stop. I am and have always been sick and tired those who don’t get a flu vaccine when one is available. The flu has been as bad or worse than the current pandemic. The last major flu pandemic was in 1918 and killed at least 50 million people. Has that happened since the vaccine has been available? No. You telling people to avoid the flu vaccine is part of the problem. People who have died from the flu that didn’t get vaccinated, I’m sure very much wish they would have gotten one. I’m done now. My ignorant self is going to go work on developing an at home test for the current pandemic.
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Thank you for following your advice to please stop. Just stop.
bee.23:
--- Quote from: Lyssa on March 19, 2020, 02:30:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: HornetKick on March 16, 2020, 04:23:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: bee.23 on March 16, 2020, 04:14:49 AM ---Oh Lordy - sorry to hear you’re going through the struggle too lol. My mom is a doctor and swears against taking the flu shot (for her own reasons) so I never took it due to that. Well I’m deffinitely regretting that now😂😂 Not that it’s makes a difference in my scenario but I more so empathize with the fact maybe we all should find protection in a flu shot, so we can at least prevent ourselves from one global sickness out here. So in saying that... not only do I feel you, but I feel for you. but I do wish us a full recovery and health!!! I pray we will be fine 🙏🏽
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I agree with your Mom. Avoid the flu shot. The flu shot does not protect you against getting the flu. It only lessens the symptoms, but you will still get the flu. Been there, done that.
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Please do not go around telling people to avoid a vaccination that saves countless lives and allows for our healthcare system to remain functioning during flu season. It is a well known fact that the flu vaccine is anywhere from 40 to 60% effective. Without it, you are correct, symptoms are worse and with it you wont get as sick. Thousands of people die every year from it. Most unvaccinated. Not only does it protect from severe illness, hospitalization, or dying from the disease, but it is also important for herd immunity to prevent illness in vulnerable populations. You may get it and be fine, but you could pass your infection to someone who has cancer, an autoimmune disease, or the old or you who are especially vulnerable. Truly, GET YOUR DAMN FLU SHOT PEOPLE. Why wouldn’t you want to protect yourself AND MORE IMPORTANTLY OTHERS from dying???? Absolutely mind boggling how ignorant you and this comment are.
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I understand your point, but please refrain from calling people insensitive phrases. Also, you bolded the statement I made, which was in no way reference to telling people not to take the shot. If you were wanting to state your opinion in regards to @hornetkick then I would kindly suggest you bold one of his statements, so we can clearly connect the correlation to the correct person. I never advised once not taking the shot, and have no opinion on the matter, but merely was listening to a point made by him, as you have also made yours. Light and love 🙏🏽
bee.23:
--- Quote from: th3awakened1 on March 19, 2020, 08:08:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: Lyssa on March 19, 2020, 07:24:01 AM ---Ok, let me be clear. I didn’t say you said that. Telling people to avoid the flu shot, a vaccination against a contagious and potentially fatal disease is irresponsible and ignorant so please stop. It is scientifically proven to save lives and reduce severity. It very likely saved my mother’s life who has an autoimmune disease and came down with a mild case of flu this year, has she not been vaccinated, it would have likely been much worse.. So just stop and I think it’s obvious that I’m referring to your specific comment on the flu vaccine, not all vaccines, so coming back at me that I am ignorant or referring to anything but that is just you trying to prove something that you are flat out wrong about so please stop. I am and have always been sick and tired those who don’t get a flu vaccine when one is available. The flu has been as bad or worse than the current pandemic. The last major flu pandemic was in 1918 and killed at least 50 million people. Has that happened since the vaccine has been available? No. You telling people to avoid the flu vaccine is part of the problem. People who have died from the flu that didn’t get vaccinated, I’m sure very much wish they would have gotten one. I’m done now. My ignorant self is going to go work on developing an at home test for the current pandemic.
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First all stop arguing with others that are firm in their beliefs. You have your beliefs and others have theirs, stop trying to change that. I personally do not believe much in modern medicine and watched my parent suffer from cancer while doctors kept withholding treatment over issues I felt did not correlate as to why chemo wasn't happening. They kept sending them home too and each time they ended up in the hospital the stints got longer and longer. This healthcare system is broken whether you want to believe it or not, why do I believe that because of the overall lack of communication between dr to dr. The right hand doesn't talk to the left hand, they look at the chart as to treatment given and formulate their recommendations of further treatment moving forward. Do vaccines help? Yes, but I have never been sicker than when I have gotten flu shots vs when I didn't. Practicing thr tips they are stating and pushing right now show always be happening if you want to stay healthy, but some people in this world it takes a pandemic to actually listen. Been social distancing for years during flu and cold season and would get called a homebody or a hermit but now this is a recommendation?! I loved that song before it was mainstream is my response...People should have been doing it for years and years but nope I went years being exposed to other people bringing their contagion or their kids contagion to work because they still need a paycheck, flu shot or not, they never cared. In the past 10 years, i've gotten pink eye, strep twice, multiple instances of bronchitis infections, nasty flu's regardless of shot vs no shot because of my exposure to coworkers bringing their airborne toxic gunk to work with I'll kids cause yet again,"I need my paycheck."
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Yes. Thank you. ^^^
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