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Psychics vs. LOA
ladya:
This is a very good video on how psychics tie in with LOA and explains why predictions happen or don't happen. She breaks this concept down very well and sums up exactly how i see them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKydRN1v1b4
Star_01:
I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either.
I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this. :)
ladya:
--- Quote from: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:28:03 PM ---I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either.
I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this. :)
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i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.
Star_01:
--- Quote from: ladya on October 10, 2019, 08:32:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:28:03 PM ---I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either.
I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this. :)
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i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.
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Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.
ladya:
--- Quote from: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:47:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: ladya on October 10, 2019, 08:32:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:28:03 PM ---I'm not going to get into a discussion about law of attraction as I've already made my point a few times. But regardless of if it really is real or not, I have definitely seen things that I could not control and I do believe in fate/destiny, and it isn't always for good reasons like people assume. Like "oh you're destined to be together/for that job", sometimes it's been really shitty things that I couldn't accept at the time. So if there is a free will or LOA, I can't rule out there being things we also cannot control either.
I've spoken to a few family members and friends who went to fortune tellers who told them some serious shit like how many kids they would have, when they would divorce with X, when so and so would die, and it all happened as the fortune teller said, some perhaps a little out of timings, but they happened. The person went to the fortune teller for entertainment and got on with their life, didn't cling onto the fortuned outcomes and they happened. I have had psychic readings and the most accurate were in person, and again they have told me things which I shrugged off at the time and continued with life and they did happen, no free will or LOA about the outcomes. They happened as the reader said. Yet any reader over the phone couldn't have gotten things more wrong for me about relationships. There may be parts of law of attraction and free will but I really can't rule out that things are set to which no LOA or free will can change the outcome. Just my 2c and hope I won't get attacked for saying this. :)
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i don't think you watched the video lol. i wasn't bringing up a debate of psychics vs loa nor trying to get into one. i was just posting a video on how they both tie into each other and if you watched the video it talks about what you mentioned in the 2nd paragraph.
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Actually, I did watch the video. She was going on about how what we want we get to our energy path. So if we want money for example that's what is in our path at the time of the reading. And how some people's energies and thoughts don't change so is more easier to predict. Sounded very free will like/LOA. I'm simply saying that I disagree with the lady and some things are out of our control even whatever we want in our energy or are projecting. You did put up a video and I am allowed to counteract what I watched as that's what this is about, right? What I've said is totally relevant to the video, that woman is saying things can change depending on what we basically vibe out. I disagree. Whether there is loa or free will I definitely think that there are some pathways we can't avoid no matter what we vibe out or hope for, is my point.
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psychics read our current energy and base predictions off of that so that is why some people are easier to predict for. we always have the power to change our path if we don't like where its going. you kinda took what she said out of context and she actually gave a very balanced answer to the question. it didn't sound like anything, she just explained how the two tie into each other. its like if someone is saying well if you keep going down that road you'll hit a dead end its like well i can always turn around or keep going.
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