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Star_01:

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--- Quote from: Still tired on October 10, 2019, 04:14:29 PM ---I believe the ultimate purpose of life is to individuate. In the highest realms we experience an immense oneness and connection with all that is. In this realm we experience separation so we can know ourselves more clearly as individuals. Each divine being has multiple lives that branch out from the oversoul and overlap sychronistically with each other in time. Each individual life has a set of innate charateristics and influences that distinguish them as unique. The purpose is to experience who we are in a variety of different circumstances. As we do this we learn how to be true to ourselves and our own unique connection to source energy. If it was easy there would be no need to experience this but in reality it is very challenging. Different lives are chosen to focus on particular challenges. For instance if one of your innate soul characteristics is to be very trusting, that is a beautiful quality and one that is natural in the higher realms of experience. But within the layers of density and separation of the Earth plane, it may obviously present a lot of difficulties. A variety of experiences would be necessary to temper this characteristic of trust, to learn how to balance trust of others with trust of self. If an individual finds that this quality is problematic within a particular life, and it is not able to be resolved in that set of circumstances, other lives may be created to work through that in different circumstances. Those other lives could be in the future, the past, or even concurrent within linear time. All incarnations cross reference and influence each other dynamically across time, so each can benefit from the diverse experiences of other selves. But each individual life is sacrosanct. Your choices are your own and you are never subject to the choices made by a different self in another life. Karma is not sequential, it is an energetic pattern and eventual transcendance of that pattern.

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Thanks for your input, ST. I like the way you put things.

I too believe that we all have our own lessons to learn on this earth, I already know what some of mine are, but stupidly am not resolving them which is why I think they keep returning and returning to me until they are done. It's like failing exams until you pass, I think we all have our own experiences and lessons definitely that we need to go through and I do believe in "set" lessons and experiences we have to go through, and probably when we pass over it is explained or we become wise to why we met X who was such a dick to us because they came to teach us Y lesson. Like you said, if life were easy and there were no hardships, life would be boring and pointless as we need challenges and difficulties even though at the time - we may not understand why. Karma also comes in to play of teaching us lessons and making us realise our mistakes and what we could have done better. The problem is many people want someone to suffer karma instantaneously, but sometimes it waits a while until the perfect time and the person may not be around to see it unfold.

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I can so relate on having certain lessons keep coming up over and over. I look at it as having multiple opportunities to see a choice from different angles and make a better decision. It just takes "time" to manifest different scenarios. Karma is not so much about right or wrong, and definitely not about being punished even though it can feel that way sometimes. A lot of times, good intentions can be our downfall; as the saying goes they pave the road to hell. If life was easy, there would be no need to experience much of it. Being in a body and experiencing life through a singular viewpoint is hard. Multiple lives add to the library of experience, so there is always potential to tap into that and take a different perspective. It helps to keep us from feeling trapped within one perspective. In some time or place we have been, seen, or done it all.

Yes I believe that in the afterlife we get to see why certain things happened and what the purpose was. It's not always what we would assume it to be either. Especially between people who have hurt each other. Karma is sometimes thought of as a game where people go tit-for-tat trying to get each other back for things. I believe that is rare. More often a similar situation plays out multiple times until the people involved learn to move past it. Sometimes we choose to let others hurt us so they can learn, and learn it from someone who loves them. Sometimes they show us how we hurt ourselves in ways we never would have noticed otherwise.

Both of the exes I got readings about, obliquely taught me a lot about how I was stifling myself in a job I hated and not following my impulses towards something that would make me happier. They both demonstrated behavior that I judged as irrational and ironically I descended into utterly irrational behavior by trying to logically analyze their behavior with readings. If I had accepted my own irrationality I would have allowed myself to make changes in my life that at the time I saw as unacceptable. I learned that it is okay to be irrational, because sometimes our instincts know things ahead of what the logical mind can understand. My second ex in particular had a tendency to want to escape when he felt anxiety. That was essentially what led to our break up. I keep thinking I could reason with his anxiety and calm him down. I did that with the other guy too. The first ex relied on me for it and the second ex resented me. What I never realized was how to appreciate, validate, or value the emotions they were feeling that seemed so irrational to me. I was unable to do that for myself and I was constantly trying to talk myself out of what I was feeling. I did that for years forcing myself to stay in my job even though I was miserable and my instincts kept telling me to get out. When I was getting readings it was like I was finally able to let myself indulge all of the irrational feelings and impulses I had and talk through them with someone. I was a glutton for getting that validation. I was also very fearful of what would happen if I acted on my real feelings. I kept projecting that one ex or the other was holding back and not acting on their real feelings, when all along it was me and it really had little to do with my relationship with either of them. It was more about me and how I was holding myself back in other areas of my life. I judged my exes deep down because they were both unemployed and I saw that as unfortunate. I am now working on becoming self-employed, that's not to say I won't take a job agan but if I do, I won't be stuffing all my real thoughts and feelings down in order to show up every day.

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That's a good point about lessons coming back to us and learning from different angles, that could well be possible, also.

With regards to karma, I've definitely seen a person be punished for their wrongdoings. My ex who was very violent and abusive to me, manipulative and nasty moved over here from abroad to go into a certain area of work. He was quite spoilt and got helped out lots by his parents, but whatever way or however way he tried to get into that area of work he failed quite miserably and didn't succeed. This was mostly after we split. The last tipping point was he did a huge project and put it live on platforms for it to embarrassingly not go well and in the end he flew back to his country where it is hard to get into that area of work, hence why he moved here. He even told others that that area not working out for him was his karma for the way he had been behaving and it was the type of karma where I didn't laugh in his face or anything of that sort, I left karma to get one up on him and deliver the kick up his backside. But because he is abusive he probably still hasn't made the link of his actions and gone into "poor me" mode.

I definitely think we can be a part of someone else's lessons too like they are for us. I'm sure you have met guys or been involved in situations with people where you could have made an impact or influence on them yourself, they just may not be open to admitting or realising it straight away. For example with your exes, they taught you to look at your career and how it made you unhappy/wasn't right for you, when you probably were only busy at the time about wanting to see if they would return. I do hope you're in a better place with your career now, and I wish you the best of luck with your self-employment.  :)

Star_01:

--- Quote from: Still tired on October 11, 2019, 03:42:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: Star_01 on October 10, 2019, 08:07:21 PM ---I definitely think we can be a part of someone else's lessons too like they are for us. I'm sure you have met guys or been involved in situations with people where you could have made an impact or influence on them yourself, they just may not be open to admitting or realising it straight away. For example with your exes, they taught you to look at your career and how it made you unhappy/wasn't right for you, when you probably were only busy at the time about wanting to see if they would return. I do hope you're in a better place with your career now, and I wish you the best of luck with your self-employment.  :)

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Thank you! Yes at the time I was busy focusing on my exs and other things in my life besides work. Neither of them taught me that much in a positive sense, lol. One ex was very critical of me and pushed me to quit my job. He was right but he was too pushy and I just wasn't ready for it. And it was part of his pattern of verbal abuse so in a sense he may have made me more resistant to leaving my job. He had quit a job where he was making decent money and I thought that was very irresponsible. It was hard to turn my perspective around because it seemed like he was so wrong about everything. It's hard to listen to people who are mean. But in the end I realize he did have my best interests at heart even if he was a jerk about it. It just took so many years for me to live through it and see what happened with my job. My other ex was the only person in a long time who encouraged me to get back to playing music. That meant a lot to me. Then he basically destroyed that with the way he treated me later. It's so hard to sort out the good and bad with people who have abusive behavior.

I don't believe karma is a punishment, though that is indeed how it works on some people. But it doesn't necessarily bring us what we deserve. It just brings the natural result of what we choose. Sometimes people choose to punish themselves.

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No problem. It's strange because they came in and taught you lessons or gave good advice in the beginning, but the way they went about things aswell as the toxic relationship itself wasn't healthy. It's kind of like you need to piece parts together yourself and the yin yang kinda affect where there is good in bad and bad in the good. People who aren't good for you in any relationship kind of sense (whether boyfriend, family or friends) usually are the ones who teach you the best lessons unfortunately lol.

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