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joyjoy:
You guys have written some powerful stuff and a lot of it really resonates.  Thank you all. What I can't get over is that, for the last few years--especially during the bad binges, I had no one to talk to about this--it's beyond shameful--so I appreciate the forum because it sounds like me talking to me again and again.

Someone wrote previously that you have to go in to get out, or something and I feel like getting even more mired in this world, vis a vie this forum, will help me find my way out. 

Meanwhile, when my last POI told me he was dating someone else, while I processed that, as he sat in front of me, I swear, I thought, "all that money pissed away on readings for nothing.  FOR NOTHING."  I have said over and over on these boards that if I tallied up the amount, I'd be sick--for a while, I was keeping track and now I just can't.  I just have to find a way out--a way to make it manageable for myself.

I will say that I've spoken to a few people on Keen at length recently about these boards and I know Keen reads them and so do advisors.  There is definitely a lot of crap readers on Keen--I have had so many fairytale readings that it's crazy; and I realize that I could put up a posting and read for people and my intuition isn't that well developed yet.  I went through old chats from 2018 to pick better in 2019, and I see the shit that I was fed.  I'll admit, it felt so good at the time and the second it was over, I knew it was fake--and that my bills just increased.  HOWEVER, I don't think you can make a blanket statement and say keen readers just don't care and are out to make a buck, because I don't think that's true.  Over the last few years, I've met some readers who did string me along, and found a few who haven't.  Who have made a lot of accurate predictions and helped me get out of my own way (as recently as last night) and also said, "do not add more money--you've added enough and I'm worried about your purse. you know what you need to know."

This is our choice--and keen does dangle it.  I didn't realize until I read above the correlation between when I stop going for readings and see promotions on keen (I'm an idiot).  But, we have all been in that chair when that little voice says, "your advisor is on hold...to add $29.99, press 1-and we skip it and jam our finger onto 2 or 3 because we JUST. NEED.TO. HEAR. WHAT. THEY. SAY.  We have to find ways to believe in ourselves, but more than that, learn to let go of the outcome and just focus on our lives and realize we have no control over if he calls; etc.  I am really trying to let go and let life unfold the way it's meant to.

I hated myself so much, and this keen addiction, that I gave my old computer that I logged onto away--because I hated looking at it.

I will continue to believe that guidance is useful--but used properly--in a healthy way.  Anything in excess isn't good. 

SweetT:
I look back over the many years that I have been talking to advisors on keen, to find that many just gave me a fairy tale and some actually told me the truth.  I have came to limit myself in talking to advisors to one every 2 to 4 months for about 5 minutes. Then sit back and wait.  I found myself going to ETSY for a question answered with a cheaper rate than keen. Over the many years, I have seen keen change. They have really became all about money and not quality. I have even found so many to be rude and cut you off before the third minute, so you can't leave a feedback. Years back you can leave a feedback even after one minute.  I am really disappointed to where keen has gone today. There was a time a couple years ago that I completely pulled away from keen for a few years. I was happy to have saved my money rather than waste it.

jas:
My addiction is Baaaddd - oh the money I have wasted.  However, I don't blame Keen, I take full responsibility for the endless calling.  For Keen, it is a business and they will do as any business venture would.  The only place I can lay the blame is squarely at my own feet.  I   have FINALLY started to limit my calling and it has taken years.  I found a few people who work very well for me but honestly, and without reservations, I can say I WISH I HAD NEVER STARTED.  I am now 11 years in and probably will never stop completely.  I actually get something out of it.  I have learned what works for me and what doesn't - BUT I WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND ANYONE START  DOWN THIS PATH.

anewstart:
There was a time on Keen back in the day when you could email the members actually. I made a few friends that way and every single person, including me, was told the same thing. I, too, thought I was the exception, as did all my Keen friends. Well, none of us ended up with anyone we called about. It got to a point where we ended up in tense arguments about who was right and who was wrong and then did readings for each other with our own tarot cards. It was so damaging to our psyches. And it wasn't worth it. We lost a lot of money, energy, opportunities with others, opportunities in life in general. And we lost our friendships. And not one single psychic cared about what they were doing to us. Excellent post from the original poster.. I want to amend this by saying, 15 yrs later, I did meet someone who I am with today who was never predicted by even the "best" readers. And we've been living together 3 years. I dreamt about him before I met him, so I was my own best psychic!

doubleoh8:
@anewstart I love that you dreamt about your guy before meeting him - what a great reminder that we all have intuition and need to rely on it, rather than some third party stranger to tell us what's coming and what's best for us.

I agree this is a great thread and thanks to all the posters. I am actually seeing a trend on this forum lately that's very positive -- people are opening up about their psychic addictions and habits, and rather than being attacked by other members there is lots of support. I hope this trend continues!

My story is similar to many others I have read on here. I discovered platform psychics in early 2015, just as a promising relationship was starting to go sideways. I became obsessive and began calling psychics more and more, to the point where I was fairly quickly hooked into a cycle of hope, anxiety, doubt and despair. I drained my bank accounts and stayed hooked for nearly 4 years... essentially until I hit a rock bottom of being broke and finally having to wake up to the fact that what reality was showing me was entirely different to the story I had in my head. The guy slipped like sand through my fingers - it was there but never really solid and eventually he met someone and moved on.

The money I wasted is a colossal regret. It was a LOT. But worse, for me, was the impact on my psyche. I read once about a woman who was addicted to psychics and one day she went to see a trusted reader and that reader told her she couldn't read for the woman because her aura was full of holes. I felt that way after 4 years of literally draining myself with psychic readings. I became more fearful, less able to make decisions or trust myself. I also lost touch with reality to a degree... the last time I saw the guy he told me about his new relationship and despite his words it was nearly impossible for me to believe what he was saying.

The good news is that the whole experience did wake me up to some important healing that needs to happen. And the better news is that I feel like I am doing that healing. I am extremely grateful that I got a great job about 8 or 9 months ago, and am slowly recovering financially and psychologically. I am not fully clear of readings, but there are a lot of topics and questions I avoid altogether and my readings are few and far between. Like @Yaz, I had previously used intuitive people for spiritual guidance...and I've tried to go back to that approach. If I'm careful about who I talk to, how often, and what types of questions I ask, that seems to be working - as in helpful for me (no predictions, just guidance). That said, I am aware of how dangerous readings can be for me, and I worry that if I don't heal the things that need healing I could fall down that giant abyss again. The addiction for me is connected to my emotions -- to fear and loss -- and although it sounds cliche I truly believe that many of us struggle with being able to really love ourselves and put our interests first. This is the piece that feels critical to me to heal.

In the end, I don't totally discount the possibility that psychic ability exists. I'm just extremely wary of it. I agree that 99.9% of readers on platforms are either fakes or marginal talents, and that they are there for the income or the ego but not to truly help or enlighten. But even if you find a great reader - the very best reader. Even if someone proves their talent explicitly... even then I feel like there is great cause to be wary. They make mistakes, misinterpret things, over-estimate their gifts. And if you are vulnerable and you truly believe them ... this can have devastating effects.

Sorry this post got so long-winded. I haven't posted on here for some time and I haven't shared a lot because on and off there have been some seriously toxic conversations... but I now come here for the support and the reminder that I'm not alone in my experience and I'm grateful to all who share their stories and for the support that does exist.

For those who are at earlier stages in their calling cycles and starting to see obsessive patterns, I echo the advice given by others: Stop NOW. Nothing good will come of it.

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