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Your Tarot of Truth
Miss Philosopher:
--- Quote from: jackY on October 05, 2025, 11:09:49 PM ---I think I added to this convo in another thread, but in my experience, I have encountered very few (but they do exist) super talented tarot readers. However, tarot is just a tool for them. They lead with their abilities and the cards confirm what they're getting. That's a key difference between them and the thousands of "tarot readers" who are just throwing cards down.
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--- Quote from: sugarsky on October 04, 2025, 02:25:17 PM ---Any updates on this reader?
I’ve read with her several times and it’s kind of a different story every time
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Because it's tarot. It's literally shuffling cards, pulling random cards each time, believing the cards chosen are divinely inspired somehow, and then using one's own personal interpretation of what they mean. You could take one spread and have 10 different people read that spread and they'll all give you a different interpretation. You could ask one question at noon and ask the same question two hours later and get totally different cards pulled. Tarot readings are unreliable in and of themselves couple with the fact that you are trusting one person's interpretation. Personal interpretation is going to greatly depend on that reader's personality type, emotional state, and past experiences. It's why I don't count tarot readers as psychic and I never get tarot readings because they're crap. That is just my personal opinion. A reader must be a no tools clairvoyant (they can have additional gifts too but cannot use tools). That is REAL psychic ability.
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The only exception to my rule is Yona. Idk how she's so great but all other tarot readers I've ever read with were crap. And it's been a lot.
jackY:
Totally get it. That's why I have never read with straight up "tarot readers". Unfortunately for me, none of Yona's predictions came to fruition. She seemed to get the present correct, but everything else never happened. That was probably 7 years ago. As I recall, she uses several tools-crystal ball, cards, runes in addition to her abilities.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 11:21:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: jackY on October 05, 2025, 11:09:49 PM ---I think I added to this convo in another thread, but in my experience, I have encountered very few (but they do exist) super talented tarot readers. However, tarot is just a tool for them. They lead with their abilities and the cards confirm what they're getting. That's a key difference between them and the thousands of "tarot readers" who are just throwing cards down.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 09:07:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: sugarsky on October 04, 2025, 02:25:17 PM ---Any updates on this reader?
I’ve read with her several times and it’s kind of a different story every time
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Because it's tarot. It's literally shuffling cards, pulling random cards each time, believing the cards chosen are divinely inspired somehow, and then using one's own personal interpretation of what they mean. You could take one spread and have 10 different people read that spread and they'll all give you a different interpretation. You could ask one question at noon and ask the same question two hours later and get totally different cards pulled. Tarot readings are unreliable in and of themselves couple with the fact that you are trusting one person's interpretation. Personal interpretation is going to greatly depend on that reader's personality type, emotional state, and past experiences. It's why I don't count tarot readers as psychic and I never get tarot readings because they're crap. That is just my personal opinion. A reader must be a no tools clairvoyant (they can have additional gifts too but cannot use tools). That is REAL psychic ability.
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The only exception to my rule is Yona. Idk how she's so great but all other tarot readers I've ever read with were crap. And it's been a lot.
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Miss Philosopher:
--- Quote from: jackY on October 06, 2025, 12:13:50 AM ---Totally get it. That's why I have never read with straight up "tarot readers". Unfortunately for me, none of Yona's predictions came to fruition. She seemed to get the present correct, but everything else never happened. That was probably 7 years ago. As I recall, she uses several tools-crystal ball, cards, runes in addition to her abilities.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 11:21:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: jackY on October 05, 2025, 11:09:49 PM ---I think I added to this convo in another thread, but in my experience, I have encountered very few (but they do exist) super talented tarot readers. However, tarot is just a tool for them. They lead with their abilities and the cards confirm what they're getting. That's a key difference between them and the thousands of "tarot readers" who are just throwing cards down.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 09:07:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: sugarsky on October 04, 2025, 02:25:17 PM ---Any updates on this reader?
I’ve read with her several times and it’s kind of a different story every time
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Because it's tarot. It's literally shuffling cards, pulling random cards each time, believing the cards chosen are divinely inspired somehow, and then using one's own personal interpretation of what they mean. You could take one spread and have 10 different people read that spread and they'll all give you a different interpretation. You could ask one question at noon and ask the same question two hours later and get totally different cards pulled. Tarot readings are unreliable in and of themselves couple with the fact that you are trusting one person's interpretation. Personal interpretation is going to greatly depend on that reader's personality type, emotional state, and past experiences. It's why I don't count tarot readers as psychic and I never get tarot readings because they're crap. That is just my personal opinion. A reader must be a no tools clairvoyant (they can have additional gifts too but cannot use tools). That is REAL psychic ability.
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The only exception to my rule is Yona. Idk how she's so great but all other tarot readers I've ever read with were crap. And it's been a lot.
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Yeah I only had the one reading with her in 2020 and that one unfolded over like a 3 year span of time. I never went back because I just wasn't like super extra impressed with it. I'm not saying she's bad but I much prefer clairvoyants that give like creepy type of detail that would only be exclusive to me personally and not general things that could apply to anyone. I realize that human nature has patterns as a whole and so do relationship dynamics but there should be some serious specifics that could literally only apply to me and my situation. Otherwise, I don't read and this is why I only read with you know who but I will even go so far as to say if some of these bigger things do not happen by the end of this year as has been repeated to me for a year now, I will stop even reading with her and pretty much just stop reading UNLESS I can find someone that is very similar to Kisha and can just give general readings. One thing I will never do again is read about a particular man. No matter what's going on, I will never read about another man again.
beautifulsunset:
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 06, 2025, 01:24:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: jackY on October 06, 2025, 12:13:50 AM ---Totally get it. That's why I have never read with straight up "tarot readers". Unfortunately for me, none of Yona's predictions came to fruition. She seemed to get the present correct, but everything else never happened. That was probably 7 years ago. As I recall, she uses several tools-crystal ball, cards, runes in addition to her abilities.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 11:21:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: jackY on October 05, 2025, 11:09:49 PM ---I think I added to this convo in another thread, but in my experience, I have encountered very few (but they do exist) super talented tarot readers. However, tarot is just a tool for them. They lead with their abilities and the cards confirm what they're getting. That's a key difference between them and the thousands of "tarot readers" who are just throwing cards down.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 09:07:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: sugarsky on October 04, 2025, 02:25:17 PM ---Any updates on this reader?
I’ve read with her several times and it’s kind of a different story every time
--- End quote ---
Because it's tarot. It's literally shuffling cards, pulling random cards each time, believing the cards chosen are divinely inspired somehow, and then using one's own personal interpretation of what they mean. You could take one spread and have 10 different people read that spread and they'll all give you a different interpretation. You could ask one question at noon and ask the same question two hours later and get totally different cards pulled. Tarot readings are unreliable in and of themselves couple with the fact that you are trusting one person's interpretation. Personal interpretation is going to greatly depend on that reader's personality type, emotional state, and past experiences. It's why I don't count tarot readers as psychic and I never get tarot readings because they're crap. That is just my personal opinion. A reader must be a no tools clairvoyant (they can have additional gifts too but cannot use tools). That is REAL psychic ability.
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The only exception to my rule is Yona. Idk how she's so great but all other tarot readers I've ever read with were crap. And it's been a lot.
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Yeah I only had the one reading with her in 2020 and that one unfolded over like a 3 year span of time. I never went back because I just wasn't like super extra impressed with it. I'm not saying she's bad but I much prefer clairvoyants that give like creepy type of detail that would only be exclusive to me personally and not general things that could apply to anyone. I realize that human nature has patterns as a whole and so do relationship dynamics but there should be some serious specifics that could literally only apply to me and my situation. Otherwise, I don't read and this is why I only read with you know who but I will even go so far as to say if some of these bigger things do not happen by the end of this year as has been repeated to me for a year now, I will stop even reading with her and pretty much just stop reading UNLESS I can find someone that is very similar to Kisha and can just give general readings. One thing I will never do again is read about a particular man. No matter what's going on, I will never read about another man again.
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LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL,
beautifulsunset:
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 11:21:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: jackY on October 05, 2025, 11:09:49 PM ---I think I added to this convo in another thread, but in my experience, I have encountered very few (but they do exist) super talented tarot readers. However, tarot is just a tool for them. They lead with their abilities and the cards confirm what they're getting. That's a key difference between them and the thousands of "tarot readers" who are just throwing cards down.
--- Quote from: Miss Philosopher on October 05, 2025, 09:07:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: sugarsky on October 04, 2025, 02:25:17 PM ---Any updates on this reader?
I’ve read with her several times and it’s kind of a different story every time
--- End quote ---
Because it's tarot. It's literally shuffling cards, pulling random cards each time, believing the cards chosen are divinely inspired somehow, and then using one's own personal interpretation of what they mean. You could take one spread and have 10 different people read that spread and they'll all give you a different interpretation. You could ask one question at noon and ask the same question two hours later and get totally different cards pulled. Tarot readings are unreliable in and of themselves couple with the fact that you are trusting one person's interpretation. Personal interpretation is going to greatly depend on that reader's personality type, emotional state, and past experiences. It's why I don't count tarot readers as psychic and I never get tarot readings because they're crap. That is just my personal opinion. A reader must be a no tools clairvoyant (they can have additional gifts too but cannot use tools). That is REAL psychic ability.
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The only exception to my rule is Yona. Idk how she's so great but all other tarot readers I've ever read with were crap. And it's been a lot.
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ALL HER LIFE, and it continues till date and it will continue.....Sincerity aka Scammer is the best....LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL, LOL
Mind you, she is one who preaches and teaches about LETTING GO.....THAT IS WHAT SHE SAYS NOW THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS ONCE AGAIN WITH THE ADDICT SHE IS WITH....WAIT TILL HE COMES BACK....SHE LETS GO WHILE THE OTHER ONE ABANDONS HER. ONCE HE IS BACK IN THE SCENE SHE DOESN´T LET GO ANYMORE.
Please, do not listen to this person unless you want to get mentally ill like her.
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