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K I R A (aka Kira de Ra) (aka Shaman Kira)
Yaz88:
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--- Quote from: dollhousewelcome on January 04, 2020, 09:48:37 AM ---She can be moody, that's for sure. But, so far the things she says have happened for me. I removed her from my favorites one time when I thought she was rude. Then added her back because of her availability and knowing that her stuff comes true.
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She’s never been the most cheerful of advisors and she was blunt to be modest but I’ve never minded that because she was accurate and objective. I never had an issue until she started telling me I shouldn’t question her guides/they were angry I didn’t take her advice/that she’s no ordinary advisor-is a shaman/etc.
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Here’s the thing, Aaron. If she’s been correct for you, then I’d probably take what she says when it comes to her guides with a grain of salt. In my profession, if a client goes and gets advice from someone else and keeps second guessing what I’ve told them, I’m not going to have much patience with them and I may very well fire them as a client. I’ve told them the answer to their question, I’ve answered it to the best of my ability, and for them to keep getting advice on the matter and then bringing up that other advice to me is wasting my time and their time, it’s a circular argument that goes nowhere. Perhaps her guides do get pissed if she keeps asking them the same question when it comes to you second guessing. Or maybe she just gets pissed and says her guides are pissed. Hell, I’m no longer allowing myself to read tarot for myself bc I kept asking the same questions over and over and the cards got pissed and started giving me the devil card over and over again. So yeah, I’d say my guides were annoyed AF with me. There is such a thing as “asked and answered”. So if you want to read with her, I’d do yourself a favor and space those readings out and not necessarily bring up that you are second guessing her. Wait until something manifests before you get another reading or else you really are just beating a dead horse.
russianred:
--- Quote from: Yaz88 on January 04, 2020, 08:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Aaron0326 on January 04, 2020, 07:05:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: dollhousewelcome on January 04, 2020, 09:48:37 AM ---She can be moody, that's for sure. But, so far the things she says have happened for me. I removed her from my favorites one time when I thought she was rude. Then added her back because of her availability and knowing that her stuff comes true.
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She’s never been the most cheerful of advisors and she was blunt to be modest but I’ve never minded that because she was accurate and objective. I never had an issue until she started telling me I shouldn’t question her guides/they were angry I didn’t take her advice/that she’s no ordinary advisor-is a shaman/etc.
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Here’s the thing, Aaron. If she’s been correct for you, then I’d probably take what she says when it comes to her guides with a grain of salt. In my profession, if a client goes and gets advice from someone else and keeps second guessing what I’ve told them, I’m not going to have much patience with them and I may very well fire them as a client. I’ve told them the answer to their question, I’ve answered it to the best of my ability, and for them to keep getting advice on the matter and then bringing up that other advice to me is wasting my time and their time, it’s a circular argument that goes nowhere. Perhaps her guides do get pissed if she keeps asking them the same question when it comes to you second guessing. Or maybe she just gets pissed and says her guides are pissed. Hell, I’m no longer allowing myself to read tarot for myself bc I kept asking the same questions over and over and the cards got pissed and started giving me the devil card over and over again. So yeah, I’d say my guides were annoyed AF with me. There is such a thing as “asked and answered”. So if you want to read with her, I’d do yourself a favor and space those readings out and not necessarily bring up that you are second guessing her. Wait until something manifests before you get another reading or else you really are just beating a dead horse.
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Don't you feel like there is a nice and professional way to convey this message though? I totally agree that it is an advisor's right to say "I really don't know much more I can say right now and continuing to talk at this time would be a waste of time and money for you"... I don't think anyone has to be nasty about it. She surely must know a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance seeking.
Yaz88:
--- Quote from: russianred on January 04, 2020, 09:03:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yaz88 on January 04, 2020, 08:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Aaron0326 on January 04, 2020, 07:05:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: dollhousewelcome on January 04, 2020, 09:48:37 AM ---She can be moody, that's for sure. But, so far the things she says have happened for me. I removed her from my favorites one time when I thought she was rude. Then added her back because of her availability and knowing that her stuff comes true.
--- End quote ---
She’s never been the most cheerful of advisors and she was blunt to be modest but I’ve never minded that because she was accurate and objective. I never had an issue until she started telling me I shouldn’t question her guides/they were angry I didn’t take her advice/that she’s no ordinary advisor-is a shaman/etc.
--- End quote ---
Here’s the thing, Aaron. If she’s been correct for you, then I’d probably take what she says when it comes to her guides with a grain of salt. In my profession, if a client goes and gets advice from someone else and keeps second guessing what I’ve told them, I’m not going to have much patience with them and I may very well fire them as a client. I’ve told them the answer to their question, I’ve answered it to the best of my ability, and for them to keep getting advice on the matter and then bringing up that other advice to me is wasting my time and their time, it’s a circular argument that goes nowhere. Perhaps her guides do get pissed if she keeps asking them the same question when it comes to you second guessing. Or maybe she just gets pissed and says her guides are pissed. Hell, I’m no longer allowing myself to read tarot for myself bc I kept asking the same questions over and over and the cards got pissed and started giving me the devil card over and over again. So yeah, I’d say my guides were annoyed AF with me. There is such a thing as “asked and answered”. So if you want to read with her, I’d do yourself a favor and space those readings out and not necessarily bring up that you are second guessing her. Wait until something manifests before you get another reading or else you really are just beating a dead horse.
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Don't you feel like there is a nice and professional way to convey this message though? I totally agree that it is an advisor's right to say "I really don't know much more I can say right now and continuing to talk at this time would be a waste of time and money for you"... I don't think anyone has to be nasty about it. She surely must know a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance seeking.
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I don’t know if I’d classify as what she said to Aaron as nasty, maybe haughty, but not nasty. I’m sure she does know that a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance, which means that if she played into all those emotions of uncertainty she’d make bank. The fact that she cut it off, even if she was haughty, shows that she’s more authentic than the psychics that keep you on the line entertaining all of the second guessing, etc.
Aaron0326:
--- Quote from: Yaz88 on January 04, 2020, 09:16:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: russianred on January 04, 2020, 09:03:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yaz88 on January 04, 2020, 08:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Aaron0326 on January 04, 2020, 07:05:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: dollhousewelcome on January 04, 2020, 09:48:37 AM ---She can be moody, that's for sure. But, so far the things she says have happened for me. I removed her from my favorites one time when I thought she was rude. Then added her back because of her availability and knowing that her stuff comes true.
--- End quote ---
She’s never been the most cheerful of advisors and she was blunt to be modest but I’ve never minded that because she was accurate and objective. I never had an issue until she started telling me I shouldn’t question her guides/they were angry I didn’t take her advice/that she’s no ordinary advisor-is a shaman/etc.
--- End quote ---
Here’s the thing, Aaron. If she’s been correct for you, then I’d probably take what she says when it comes to her guides with a grain of salt. In my profession, if a client goes and gets advice from someone else and keeps second guessing what I’ve told them, I’m not going to have much patience with them and I may very well fire them as a client. I’ve told them the answer to their question, I’ve answered it to the best of my ability, and for them to keep getting advice on the matter and then bringing up that other advice to me is wasting my time and their time, it’s a circular argument that goes nowhere. Perhaps her guides do get pissed if she keeps asking them the same question when it comes to you second guessing. Or maybe she just gets pissed and says her guides are pissed. Hell, I’m no longer allowing myself to read tarot for myself bc I kept asking the same questions over and over and the cards got pissed and started giving me the devil card over and over again. So yeah, I’d say my guides were annoyed AF with me. There is such a thing as “asked and answered”. So if you want to read with her, I’d do yourself a favor and space those readings out and not necessarily bring up that you are second guessing her. Wait until something manifests before you get another reading or else you really are just beating a dead horse.
--- End quote ---
Don't you feel like there is a nice and professional way to convey this message though? I totally agree that it is an advisor's right to say "I really don't know much more I can say right now and continuing to talk at this time would be a waste of time and money for you"... I don't think anyone has to be nasty about it. She surely must know a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance seeking.
--- End quote ---
I don’t know if I’d classify as what she said to Aaron as nasty, maybe haughty, but not nasty. I’m sure she does know that a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance, which means that if she played into all those emotions of uncertainty she’d make bank. The fact that she cut it off, even if she was haughty, shows that she’s more authentic than the psychics that keep you on the line entertaining all of the second guessing, etc.
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It wasn’t nasty but it was ridiculous and unprofessional. No advisor should come at you for taking/not taking advice on an important situation in your life.
russianred:
--- Quote from: Yaz88 on January 04, 2020, 09:16:23 PM ---
--- Quote from: russianred on January 04, 2020, 09:03:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Yaz88 on January 04, 2020, 08:45:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Aaron0326 on January 04, 2020, 07:05:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: dollhousewelcome on January 04, 2020, 09:48:37 AM ---She can be moody, that's for sure. But, so far the things she says have happened for me. I removed her from my favorites one time when I thought she was rude. Then added her back because of her availability and knowing that her stuff comes true.
--- End quote ---
She’s never been the most cheerful of advisors and she was blunt to be modest but I’ve never minded that because she was accurate and objective. I never had an issue until she started telling me I shouldn’t question her guides/they were angry I didn’t take her advice/that she’s no ordinary advisor-is a shaman/etc.
--- End quote ---
Here’s the thing, Aaron. If she’s been correct for you, then I’d probably take what she says when it comes to her guides with a grain of salt. In my profession, if a client goes and gets advice from someone else and keeps second guessing what I’ve told them, I’m not going to have much patience with them and I may very well fire them as a client. I’ve told them the answer to their question, I’ve answered it to the best of my ability, and for them to keep getting advice on the matter and then bringing up that other advice to me is wasting my time and their time, it’s a circular argument that goes nowhere. Perhaps her guides do get pissed if she keeps asking them the same question when it comes to you second guessing. Or maybe she just gets pissed and says her guides are pissed. Hell, I’m no longer allowing myself to read tarot for myself bc I kept asking the same questions over and over and the cards got pissed and started giving me the devil card over and over again. So yeah, I’d say my guides were annoyed AF with me. There is such a thing as “asked and answered”. So if you want to read with her, I’d do yourself a favor and space those readings out and not necessarily bring up that you are second guessing her. Wait until something manifests before you get another reading or else you really are just beating a dead horse.
--- End quote ---
Don't you feel like there is a nice and professional way to convey this message though? I totally agree that it is an advisor's right to say "I really don't know much more I can say right now and continuing to talk at this time would be a waste of time and money for you"... I don't think anyone has to be nasty about it. She surely must know a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance seeking.
--- End quote ---
I don’t know if I’d classify as what she said to Aaron as nasty, maybe haughty, but not nasty. I’m sure she does know that a big reason why people call psychics is anxiety and reassurance, which means that if she played into all those emotions of uncertainty she’d make bank. The fact that she cut it off, even if she was haughty, shows that she’s more authentic than the psychics that keep you on the line entertaining all of the second guessing, etc.
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I see your point and I also think there are just kinder ways to handle a client. She reminds me a bit of the Soup Nazi.
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