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dascallie:
Whether we label it gossip (which, without identifying data, it just logically cannot be) or not--the truth of the matter all humans discuss what they experience, it's how we all share and gain awareness.
Maybe you're saying you consider it gratuitous, ok---maybe--but I challenge every one of us to honestly see ourselves.
Who among us can claim to walk in such Christ-like purity that we muzzle ourselves when we encounter behaviors that we find startling, or may be warning signs for us.
Stories or info we pass on because they shock us, because we recognize the destructiveness or peril of them.
I'm not saying we are always high-minded and noble when we share this stuff, but our shock in telling others serves a function in our own growth, if we are wise enough to separate the 'titillation' from the lesson.
God puts it in our path to hear--it's our free will to learn and apply better personal choices as a result of being exposed to it.
The Bible is full of stories of human frailty and consequence. Human failing is the catalyst for human betterment.
We learn by example--"But by the grace of God, there go I" kind of wake-up perhaps. That's how I view it, anyway.
And without an attached name--it cannot be personal!
We humans are always observing, sharing, co-creative agents and therefore, we must SHARE (without identifying names except by permission)---I honestly don't get casting so much shade on what is a running fact of co-existence.
Information travels. Like I said above, "lessons learned", or lessons ignored, by others inform our survival. There's an interesting adage attributed to Socrates: "A life unexamined is not worth living". I would not go that far, but the point is there.
We continuously learn, but we should do no harm to others in the learning.
Decent, conscious and moral beings should NEVER attach names. That is a vile and destructive thing to do to another human being. More than vicious. Soul killing.
But a real world, reality check from me--I've never heard a single credentialed MD or research scientist (I work in the circle--a lot of info flows) act like they cannot discuss ANONYMOUS case behavior or stats---along with the occasional raised eyebrows, it brings insights, illustrates needed perspective.
And yes, in their humanness, they've even joked about this or that quirky thing, it doesn't make them bad. It makes them human and they need to relate, as we all do.
But YES, I agree in spades...if ANYONE, especially a respected, accomplished professional in their field, spreads information that is so thinly veiled and so specifically associated through detailed characteristics---that the identity can be easily guessed by those in a circle of people who all know one another--then YES, that is gossip and it's evil. And I bet they'd get their pants sued off and lose their license--and they should!
But that's not what we're talking about here--we're talking about a subculture of probably thousands of people on the internet--who have no way of knowing one another.
I don't think we should judge someone for sharing the insights of their experience and say it means they're not professional, so we brand a scarlet letter on their forehead--it sounds rather Soviet to pressure that level of silence in order to be what the group terms a 'good' person.
Ironically, as we pile on the person who pretty unabashedly offered a glimpse into his/her world (which tells me intentions aren't dark, just open and maybe hapless) we start impugning HIM/HER.
And because this person has freely admitted his/her profession as an online psychic on platforms we've purchased readings on, some may have an idea who she/he is. Even so, they're being called a gossip, their ethics insulted, reputation sullied, attacked by the group.
Maybe some discuss his/her possible identity by possible name in private messages (not saying any one in this discussion is doing that) --but boy, attach a name and it travels like wildfire.
Which starts to build a case that we might be doing to her--the very thing we say is not ok to do with others who have zero risk of being identified, whereas this person could conceivably be 'figured out'.
I value the thoughts of those here.
This is just my point of view.
HornetKick:
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Whoa, I stopped reading once I saw this.
bee.23:
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--- Quote from: aquagirl on December 14, 2018, 03:37:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: Still tired on December 12, 2018, 06:56:04 AM ---Why are you here gossiping about what people tell you in readings? That should be kept private.
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This right here! Thank you. I was thinking the same. There is is a code of ethics readers much follow, and sharing people's personal information publicly and for your own amusement is not only unethical but shameful.
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I found this comment astounding. Readers/Psychics whatever you call them do not have any code of ethics. They didn't raise their right hands and swear an oath to anything or anyone. They logged onto a platform and started taking calls. I'm not taking sides, just pointing out the facts that readers are just people and clients need to be careful what they tell readers. Placing these people on high pedestals is dangerous.
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I agree with you. Everyone was giving this individual so much shame, when this forum was created to support one another and share our experiences - correct? Psychics are not led by any ethic or moral basis; the majority of our personal experiences with readers further PROVE that rational. For those that claim an ethic foundation should be followed, it would be best to seek their insight from pastors and licensed therapists. If she were to call out a specific name attached to the story, that might be considered un-ethical but a story is just a story and all she was doing was trying to share her experience for communicative purposes. I believe if there is no defamation or belittling of anyone in the process, this individual should be completely open to expressing what she will.
bee.23:
--- Quote from: dascallie on February 25, 2020, 09:46:35 PM ---Looks like I'm in minority but I don't see how it's is unethical to describe case studies (in this case, psychic readings) when there is no identifying names or places.
We learn in this world by observing, watching outcomes, examples of others.
All the self-help books contain case studies of real people with excruciatingly detailed scenarios.
But their identifications are either aliases like Sarah M, or 'Patient A', 'Client S', etc
It's information. It's the way life rolls---observing, reading about others--as well of course, our own direct experience--is how we learn, how we discern. Some of it is junk, some of it is useful---some of it we may see ourselves in, and it can be helpful getting that wake up call.
I think jumping on this person as unethical makes zero sense.
She's giving you a view into the human psyche as she has experiences it as a psychic. I think it's pretty enlightening. To me that's worth hearing about--lest I recognize myself--I may be motivated to discern between hopeful optimism and obsessive, destructive denial.
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I 100% agree with this, fully.
jhuskindle:
Awe thanks guys, but dont worry, I dont mind. People come here when they are at their lowest. They are scared, upset, and looking for answers. The will find literally anything to hound someone about. I don't take them personally or I'd have been long gone. These days I visit every few months. I don't do readings anymore but using other clients as an example helps with social proof and social understanding, and could apply to literally anyone. I feel no need to defend this post. I hope it is helpful to some. I still get emails today that says the things they thought wouldnt happen end up coming true, not violating anything by saying so.
People here are having episodes when they arrive to the board, desperate already and anxious, maybe even having a breakdown. This is ok. It's ok to be anxious and I'd rather you take it out on me, some random board member, than in person to family or friends. Love this group, love this forum, Im deeply grateful for it.
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