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Which Reader Did You Give a Second Chance?
whskers:
I can’t remember about my other call went with her but I remember her being the same and that her prediction didn’t happen. I had to hang up the phone and I’m kinda not happy about my $10. Lol. I have spent almost $300 for just one reading but gave me answers or I came out of it feeling like it was fruitful but I’m not happy I spent $10 on Anne lol.
doubleoh8:
--- Quote from: HornetKick on August 08, 2018, 10:38:55 PM ---Yeah, but her delivery...is that helping anyone really?
I've always been told, it's not what you say but HOW you say it that matters.
To be condescending and/or dismissive when someone has just paid you tells me you just took their money and don't give a sh1T. If she had addressed me as she did some of the other posters, I would have hung up and requested a refund immediately.
To be annoyed and condescending because callers are asking about a dead subject is another matter and the caller should be told it's a dead subject, rather than saying something along the lines flippantly....are we still talking about that, are you deaf.
I can feel her annoyance due to people hanging onto a relationship that doesn't work and isn't working, but I understand how a caller would call looking for hope and clearly I would think QoC sees that too.
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Honestly? I know the saying of course but I think when it comes to readings it's more what you say than how you say it that counts. I.e., I would way rather have a reader say something real / true in blunt tone than say something untrue in a kind (sugar-coated) tone.
So I think that yes, her delivery might be helping some people. When she got annoyed with me it was bit of a wake-up that I was flogging a dead horse, for example.
There are hundreds of readers that can make you feel good in the moment because they have a soothing tone or know what to say to placate or postpone harsher realities. I think QoC is one who refuses to do that and I personally consider that to be a more ethical approach. I get that it's not pleasant to hear an annoyed tone in a reader's voice, but I'd prefer to pay for that (if it's real) than to pay someone ultra sweet who is jus stringing me along...
HornetKick:
--- Quote from: Presence on August 09, 2018, 06:11:24 AM ---I think a good reader is someone who can determine which is the best approach for the caller in the moment. Some people need compassion and gentleness. I don't think that's "stringing" anyone along.
With Anne, based on my experience, she wasn't giving tough love. Her vibe was more, "Why are you wasting my time, you f-cking idiot?" When you're already anxious about the POI you're calling about, having intensity blasted at you isn't always the best thing.
Sure, if you have an established connection with Anne, and you've asked the same question a bunch of times, then her being direct would be beneficial.
I just remember, back when I was calling Keen a lot, calling Anne was a low point. I was feeling so vulnerable and out of my mind at that time. After she spoke to me as harshly as she did, I hung up feeling really unsettled for a couple of hours afterward. Then the shame set in. Who in their right mind pays to talk to someone on Keen only to be left feeling bad for calling in the first place?
She's awful.
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Great post!
sawthelight:
I agree with your post Presence.
We are not calling to get abused or yelled at.
While I can see how frustrating it might be to have the same caller ask the same question over and over, the best approach would probably be to just no longer take the calls or get into another field if that type of things annoy you.
Most people getting readings are in a vulnerable state, so yelling at them or berating them is not the way to go.
While I can appreciate a good "tough love" approach, and sometimes need a reality check myself, that one time I had that advisor yell at me, I hung up really shaken up.
doubleoh8:
--- Quote from: Presence on August 09, 2018, 06:11:24 AM ---
--- Quote from: doubleoh8 on August 09, 2018, 05:11:33 AM ---There are hundreds of readers that can make you feel good in the moment because they have a soothing tone or know what to say to placate or postpone harsher realities. I think QoC is one who refuses to do that and I personally consider that to be a more ethical approach. I get that it's not pleasant to hear an annoyed tone in a reader's voice, but I'd prefer to pay for that (if it's real) than to pay someone ultra sweet who is jus stringing me along...
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I think a good reader is someone who can determine which is the best approach for the caller in the moment. Some people need compassion and gentleness. I don't think that's "stringing" anyone along.
With Anne, based on my experience, she wasn't giving tough love. Her vibe was more, "Why are you wasting my time, you f-cking idiot?" When you're already anxious about the POI you're calling about, having intensity blasted at you isn't always the best thing.
Sure, if you have an established connection with Anne, and you've asked the same question a bunch of times, then her being direct would be beneficial.
I just remember, back when I was calling Keen a lot, calling Anne was a low point. I was feeling so vulnerable and out of my mind at that time. After she spoke to me as harshly as she did, I hung up feeling really unsettled for a couple of hours afterward. Then the shame set in. Who in their right mind pays to talk to someone on Keen only to be left feeling bad for calling in the first place?
She's awful.
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That's certainly fair and just to clarify -- anne has never yelled at me or been overly harsh. She's been irritable and annoyed -- mildly -- on a couple of occasions. Cookie has also lost patience with me a couple of times when I wasn't really listening to her advice.
If a reader was in any way abusive or mean to me, I would absolutely not call them again. I'm sorry that happened to you (or anyone) with Anne and if it does to me in the future it'll be my last call to her. I have had experiences like that, where the reader may have been right but they were so harsh that I will never call again. It's just not worth it... So I suppose I modify my earlier response to say that no reader -- no matter how talented -- should be able to yell or abuse a client. I can handle an annoyed tone -- not abuse.
I do think some of the readers who are overly sweet CAn be quite dangerous in a different way. If their main objective is to make you feel all warm and fuzzy and that means not telling the truth, possibly for years, that's a more passive type of abuse IMO. But I suppose that's also a different issue.
** Sorry, I posted too soon. Just editing this to add that:
- Just wanted to clarify that I wasn't suggesting that all readers whose vibe is compassion and kindness are "stringing you along", I meant when they really are stringing you along...
- My favourite type of reader is able to do both - be honest and share even the harder to hear truths AND deliver with kindness and compassion. This is ideal. It's just so hard to find the ones that have a real talent that I am willing to put up with some less than ideal delivery (Not abuse) at times
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