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Some Myth Busting from a Keen Advisor
bstalling:
--- Quote from: pprincess on January 16, 2018, 10:15:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on January 16, 2018, 10:09:58 PM ---Still, there is more depth provided here from those that post about their experiences with readers compared to Keen feedback system. We learn about peoples experiences over time, we learn certain quirks of readers and can see a common theme--over time. We have to use our own discernment about who to call or not, but boards like this, from posters that share a common insterest, can better help a paying client choose wisely--whether they are an addict or not.
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The things I was addressing in my post were not related to people providing honest feedback about readers. The specific things I addressed were 1) The "all readers only care about your money" theme that seems to be all over the place here, 2) The BS that we share client information - I don't even know where or why we would do that, and 3) The assertion I see here that we are purposely lying to you.
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Well, I countered some of those points. You may not do it, but don't speak for all of your Keen colleagues because they have been caught in the act. The BS of sharing client info is not BS at all. I knew about it years ago, it was very popular on Kasamba and Keen at one point. Do all readers do it? No, but it happened--and it gave you insight into the quality of readers on these platforms. And lets face it, I doubt most of you psychics would read all day for clients at a 0 rate. You do it for money, which is fine. Its when that need for money trumps providing a quality service is where we get upset.
ETA: To clarify, info sharing was designed to generate more revenue by 1) Giving "new" clients that WOW feeling by rattling off something accurate about their situation. Many clients don't stop at one reader, why not consolidate that information and make their jobs easier and more lucrative? It works well, especially if you are not really psychic. That is where this "all readers care about is money" idea comes from. From behavior like this. I had someone on Bitwine do this to me. She used information from my Paypal receipt, which was my business name to provide "psychic information" that was supposed to wow me. It was a new LLC and she rattled off the date of when it started...and said that the name starts with an S. I knew right away she was using my personal information to try to wow me. I called her out and left a bad review...which was later removed LOL. She was so shocked I knew what she was doing that she argued with me all night over it---tried to make me the bad guy.
Angelina11:
--- Quote from: pprincess on January 16, 2018, 09:02:13 PM ---Most of our clients do not have a psychic addiction.
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I have zero doubts that you gravely underestimated the number of psychic addicts that got a reading from you.
bstalling:
--- Quote from: Angelina11 on January 16, 2018, 10:25:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: pprincess on January 16, 2018, 09:02:13 PM ---Most of our clients do not have a psychic addiction.
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I have zero doubts that you gravely underestimated the number of psychic addicts that got a reading from you.
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She has an idea of an addict being a certain type of person, and its not accurate.
HornetKick:
--- Quote from: Angelina11 on January 16, 2018, 10:25:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: pprincess on January 16, 2018, 09:02:13 PM ---Most of our clients do not have a psychic addiction.
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I have zero doubts that you gravely underestimated the number of psychic addicts that got a reading from you.
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--- Quote from: bstalling on January 16, 2018, 10:18:12 PM ---At this point, I believe in psychic ability. But I'm 50/50 about even good readers being capable of providing a useful, consistent service.
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EXACTLY!
pprincess:
--- Quote from: bstalling on January 16, 2018, 10:18:12 PM ---
Well, I wasn't going to go there, but I do question this. Do any of you real readers ever question why there is such a disconnect with accuracy? Do you actively pursue ways to get better...and be less wrong? I get the feeling that a lot of you just end up being offended when we post critical reviews and then shrug your shoulders and move on to the next client. Some of you come on here and pretend to be clients, then chastize us when we criticize your service. I'm asking earnestly here, because I do believe that there are good ones out there that can be more consistant than they are.
At this point, I believe in psychic ability. But I'm 50/50 about even good readers being capable of providing a useful, consistent service.
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Yes some of us definitely work to improve our skills and accuracy. It's something you can see in some readers over time, like many of us will start using different or more tools after some years on Keen, or we will drop tools we used to use based on negative feedback. Some of us have found that our accuracy with timing wasn't very good so we will no longer offer timing predictions, and some of us have found that we can be more accurate if we use Oracle cards to confirm our intuition, etc. We also share advice on those types of things in the forums. I used to work on Kasamba/LivePerson too and particularly there we had a lot of discussion on skill improvement. Less so in the Keen forums, but there is some of that.
I think when it comes to critical feedback, our reactions are going to depend on how the feedback is presented and of course our personalities. Some people just can't take criticism, and even those of us who invite it want it to be constructive. The problem is we don't get a lot of helpful/constructive criticism on Keen, so it might take us a while to identify where a problem might be in our process. Also, if I have 15 repeat clients in a week tell me that my predictions were correct, and 2 people say I was wrong, does that mean there is a problem so large I need to rethink my whole process, or is that just inevitable because I'm not perfect and there are a million ways that situation could have gone in a different direction from the one I was seeing at the moment?
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