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Some Myth Busting from a Keen Advisor
pprincess:
I just wanted to bust some myths I’ve been reading on here.
1) All Keen Advisors are Just There for Money
No, not all advisors are there for the money. Some of us truly enjoy using our gifts to help others and actually get very tense and restless if some of that energy isn’t directed outwards. Keen gives us an easily-accessible outlet that is convenient for those of us that have demanding day jobs so can’t schedule a lot of in-person readings at reasonable hours.
Also, even when we aren’t in it for the income, many of us are forced to charge more than the minimum because charging the minimum means you have to deal with all of the most abusive callers. You get an exponentially greater quality of client at $5 per minute versus $2 per minute. When your rate is the minimum, you get nonstop calls from underage kids and psychic-hoppers trying to rush an answer out of you in 1 minute or less and will then rate you based on how your yes/no answer compared to what everyone else told them. Nobody wants to take those calls. If you want to work with clients who are actually looking for insight, you either have to charge more than the minimum, or just hang up instantly on the majority of the calls you get.
And even the readers that are indeed working on Keen full-time for income: So, what’s wrong with that? If you have a skill or gift, should you not use it as your day job if you can and if you enjoy it? Do you think it’s such a fun job that people want to do it all day every day for free?
2) Keen Advisors Share Information on Clients
This one I really don’t understand. In what way would it benefit me to share client information with another advisor? Wouldn’t that just lose me clients because that advisor would appear to know more than I did when the client called them? And that’s if the client happened to even call that advisor – there are hundreds of advisors active on Keen at any moment and thousands of clients. So here we have to assume that I give your info to a friend, you happen to call that friend at some point, and that friend then is able to access the info I gave them on you, read it, answer your call and have all this info ready within 60 seconds? No.
There are basher lists available online that list out the Keen usernames of people who consistently leave one-star ratings, but those lists – as you can google for yourself – don’t contain personal information about the clients that can be used to fake being psychic. And if you’re on that list and a reader finds you there, they most likely won’t take your call at all.
In terms of the reader-only forums on Keen: You have to have a few hundred ratings in order to view them so don’t believe the clients on here who say they have a reader account so that they can view the forums. They can’t see the real ones unless they have been actively working as a reader on Keen for a while, but rest assured that Keen heavily monitors the forums and does not allow us to share any client information there at all. If we even complain about a rating they will delete the post, which is why the online basher lists exist at all.
3) Readers Purposely Lie to You
As an occasional client on Keen I’ve received my share of bogus predictions, but I don’t believe that the readers purposely misled me. I think some readers are totally bogus, and if you watch you will see that many get weeded out by the feedback system rather quickly. But it doesn’t even make sense that we would be giving out lies that we know will never happen because – duh – we will get terrible feedback, no repeat clients, and will no longer be able to use the site. I think we all do our best, and often times our callers just do not listen to our advice. I can’t even begin to remember all the times I’ve told a client that in order to reach a favorable outcome they had to take a certain action or behave a certain way, then they came back and told me they did the opposite. The future is changeable and subject to your free will. If you are not going to follow the advice of your advisor then how do you expect to get the outcome they predicted?
One more thing I want to point out is that the population that posts here is not representative of the majority of the clientele on Keen. It seems to be a pretty small sample of psychic-hoppers. The clients who come to us once a month for guidance or only when they are at a crossroads in their relationship or career (those who use readings in a healthy way and have an excellent relationship with their trusted advisor) are not the ones who are posting here, yet those are the ones you would actually want to listen to if you wanted to know which advisors to call.
If you have questions about the reader perspective on Keen I’ll try to answer them, but do not ask what my Keen username is because I’m not here to gain or lose clients. I was just reading some really bitter stuff on here and a lot of people blaming psychics for their relationship problems so I thought I’d put in a couple of my own cents.
BTW: If you are so anxious about your relationship that you call 15 psychics to find out what’s going to happen in that relationship: the answer is NOTHING because you’ve already destroyed it with your intensity and anxiety and insecurity. The object of your obsession can sense it and finds it unattractive and repellent. Nobody wants to be around that kind of energy (including the psychics). Stop calling us and work on being more easy-going.
pprincess:
Something I forgot to add but would like to put out there: I see a lot of people here seem to have a problem with us not being as attached to you as you might be to us, so I want to remind you that this is a totally one-sided relationship. We listen to you and try to give you insight and other perspectives on your problems, but you do not listen to our problems. If you look through feedback you will see that clients get very disgruntled if a psychic tries to tell them anything about their own life so most of us avoid it. You’re paying and it’s your reading and it’s all about you. That makes our relationship more similar to a relationship you’d have with a therapist than to a friend. We do not build real friendships on Keen because our conversation is all about you. That doesn’t mean we don’t care, but still, we aren’t friends.
Kate:
Thank you for your post - I found it very interesting, and really appreciate your thoughts.
I never thought that the good advisors I have spoken to are just in it for the money. I genuinely value the readers I have created an ongoing relationship with and do follow the advice given to the best of my ability.
However, one paragraph I do question:
"One more thing I want to point out is that the population that posts here is not representative of the majority of the clientele on Keen. It seems to be a pretty small sample of psychic-hoppers. The clients who come to us once a month for guidance or only when they are at a crossroads in their relationship or career (those who use readings in a healthy way and have an excellent relationship with their trusted advisor) are not the ones who are posting here, yet those are the ones you would actually want to listen to if you wanted to know which advisors to call."
Based on my own experience, I disagree with the above.
There may be a few who call instant chat services once a month or so when they are at a crossroads (although if this was the case, I don't know why they would not book an appointment for a private reading as it is far more affordable.)
Rather, I imagine that Keen and other platforms attract a larger majority of people that find themselves emotionally trapped in a situation, and in the process of looking for advice and a way out of the emotional pain, get addicted to the temporary relief talking to a psychic can bring.
This sounds like the "psychic hoppers" you refer to. Unfortunately, the instant chat service (whilst it can be very useful for quick advice) all too often lends itself to creating this type of addiction.
I think for the people on this forum, we'd be better of if psychic advice was still available by appointment only.
pprincess:
--- Quote from: Kate on January 16, 2018, 10:23:16 AM ---
There may be a few who call instant chat services once a month or so when they are at a crossroads (although if this was the case, I don't know why they would not book an appointment for a private reading as it is far more affordable.)
Rather, I imagine that Keen and other platforms attract a larger majority of people that find themselves emotionally trapped in a situation, and in the process of looking for advice and a way out of the emotional pain, get addicted to the temporary relief talking to a psychic can bring.
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I have literally over a hundred clients who call me on Keen only on a monthly (or every couple month) basis or only when they are going through a major life change or are stuck in a rut. And I'm only one reader who works only part time/sporadically on Keen. Those people make up the majority of the clientele, I assure you.
Kate:
--- Quote from: pprincess on January 16, 2018, 11:16:35 AM ---
--- Quote from: Kate on January 16, 2018, 10:23:16 AM ---
There may be a few who call instant chat services once a month or so when they are at a crossroads (although if this was the case, I don't know why they would not book an appointment for a private reading as it is far more affordable.)
Rather, I imagine that Keen and other platforms attract a larger majority of people that find themselves emotionally trapped in a situation, and in the process of looking for advice and a way out of the emotional pain, get addicted to the temporary relief talking to a psychic can bring.
--- End quote ---
I have literally over a hundred clients who call me on Keen only on a monthly (or every couple month) basis or only when they are going through a major life change or are stuck in a rut. And I'm only one reader who works only part time/sporadically on Keen. Those people make up the majority of the clientele, I assure you.
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Sure - but are you sure they are not calling other psychics in-between calling you? There is only one psychic I have read with weekly - the others I have only touched base with once a month or so.. when I'm looking for a new opinion etc.
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