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when readings don't pan out
bstalling:
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--- Quote from: bstalling on September 28, 2017, 05:33:08 AM ---Why do you call? Do you think psychics that claim they predict the future are actually not what they claim to be, but are instead manifesting coaches? Whatever they say, you can affirm it and make it true? Why do you think that when only a handful of readers around these parts claim that? If psychics are just well wishers and manifesting coaches, why do the vast majority of psychics claim to do something that they can't do (predict the future with certainty)?
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First, believe it or not, I am not a psychic on Keen. However, I have been seeking psychic advice since the mid-1980's. I've learned lessons about psychic addiction (hard lessons) along the way and have developed some strong beliefs.
Here's why I call: I believe, deep down, I know the truth about a situation. I'm not saying I have psychic powers, I mean, if I get quiet and honest with myself, I can sense the truth. I believe we all can do this. The problem is, fears and overanalyzing for days and weeks take me far, far away from being able to sense that truth. I call psychics and ask them if they can sense it. If what they say resonates me (which is different from "if what they say is what I want to hear"), then I feel a sense of relief because someone was able to cut through my insanity and reconnect me with truth.
The affirmation part I mentioned comes when I hear a truth and, I know for a fact, I played a huge role in creating the reality that got me to this point and need to take action to do better.
Example: I was dating a guy and let my fears get the best of me. I came straight out and asked him if he was still sleeping with the mother of children. I had no proof. I was just crazy making because I was scared something would take him away from me. I called my regular psychic at the time. She assured me he would speak to me again, but things wouldn't be the same. (I felt like she was right even though I wouldn't blame him if he didn't.)
I got off the phone and resolved to start taking care of my shit so that, if he did call, we'd both have a better experience.
You asked:
If psychics are just well wishers and manifesting coaches, why do the vast majority of psychics claim to do something that they can't do (predict the future with certainty)?
While there are some (I'm 99% accurate!) psychics who really are con artists, I think many of them are well-intentioned (not necessarily skilled, but they do want to be helpful).
In my opinion, it's the Trojan horse strategy. They make claims about predictions to entice people like you who are too lazy to sit quietly and listen to their inner voice, or do the work to become more self-aware or better their lives. Meanwhile, I believe, many psychics are hoping they can cut through your anger and ego and, by some slim chance, you'll find their insights much more valuable than the predictions.
Of course, someone like you won't do that because you'd rather be a perpetual victim than improve your life. You want to hand your power over to someone and hope to God they their predictions just lead to other people doing the work (he calls, he comes back, he apologies, he changes) while you continue to take the path of least resistance. If you don't get your ease, you get pissy and bitter.
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So you have been calling psychics to have them confirm to you what you already know to be true? For the past 30 years? Hmm..ok I guess. Its interesting how you peg yourself as high above this forum of "victims" when you have been addicted for 30 years. No truly self aware person would have that disposition.
As to the bold, those well intentioned psychics should be given a break, even though they offer a misleading service and are not accurate about anything in the long run? Hmm How are we to judge the quality of readers then? If they are well intentioned, we shouldnt complain about them?
Why do these readers feel that what they have to say about a situation is truly enlightening or helpful to cut through "our ego and anger"? Do they have certifications, degrees or anything to warrant that they can help strangers about their life problems? Why do they have to masquerade as psychics in order to offer, what ultimately you describe, as counseling and life coaching? Do you think this is ethical? You are clearly off your rocker and place these readers on a pedestal..which makes sense since youve been calling for 30 years.
I believe psychics should be able to predict the future---their commentary about my life or their "valuable advice" is not what I'm paying for or what they advertise. If they are wrong about predictions they make, even if these predictions are not in our favor, they are not offering a good service, however well intentioned they are. Dosent mean one is bitter or angry (nor do these emotions discredit our criticisms of them).
I have found good psychics that can actually predict the future, it can be done. It is just the vast majority of them out there suck...including you. That does not make us helpless victims.
bstalling:
--- Quote from: Satu on September 28, 2017, 07:27:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on September 28, 2017, 03:53:41 PM ---I have found good psychics that can actually predict the future, it can be done. It is just the vast majority of them out there suck...including you. That does not make us helpless victims.
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It does make you predictable though (no pun intended). You find a good psychic (so you claim) probably drive them insane until they refuse to talk to you anymore, then you have no choice but to call those that "suck" and when your life still continues to be miserable, you come here to complain and blame. Rinse and repeat.
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All of that vomit you posted are your projections. You don't know me or my life and this vision you have about all of us terroizing these poor psychics is laughable. Continue on with your 30 year addiction and or/failed Keen career.
Baypark1:
--- Quote from: bstalling on September 28, 2017, 08:04:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Satu on September 28, 2017, 07:27:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on September 28, 2017, 03:53:41 PM ---I have found good psychics that can actually predict the future, it can be done. It is just the vast majority of them out there suck...including you. That does not make us helpless victims.
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It does make you predictable though (no pun intended). You find a good psychic (so you claim) probably drive them insane until they refuse to talk to you anymore, then you have no choice but to call those that "suck" and when your life still continues to be miserable, you come here to complain and blame. Rinse and repeat.
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All of that vomit you posted are your projections. You don't know me or my life and this vision you have about all of us terroizing these poor psychics is laughable. Continue on with your 30 year addiction and or/failed Keen career.
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Satu somewhat sounds like a person that has recently gotten kicked off these boards or one that took her toys and left the sandbox. Just saying
peppie:
--- Quote from: Baypark1 on September 29, 2017, 03:14:54 AM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on September 28, 2017, 08:04:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: Satu on September 28, 2017, 07:27:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on September 28, 2017, 03:53:41 PM ---I have found good psychics that can actually predict the future, it can be done. It is just the vast majority of them out there suck...including you. That does not make us helpless victims.
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It does make you predictable though (no pun intended). You find a good psychic (so you claim) probably drive them insane until they refuse to talk to you anymore, then you have no choice but to call those that "suck" and when your life still continues to be miserable, you come here to complain and blame. Rinse and repeat.
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All of that vomit you posted are your projections. You don't know me or my life and this vision you have about all of us terroizing these poor psychics is laughable. Continue on with your 30 year addiction and or/failed Keen career.
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Satu somewhat sounds like a person that has recently gotten kicked off these boards or one that took her toys and left the sandbox. Just saying
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or someone with a mental condition that we should probably just ignore.
just saying too :)
nobody denies calling psychics is mental... but there are other worse kinds... i think... maybe? ;)
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