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bstalling:
--- Quote from: member60636366 on August 01, 2017, 11:02:14 PM ---exactly
thanks. An opinion is not a fact
flat out opinion and no proof is just a high flying imagination on wheels
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--- Quote from: HornetKick on August 01, 2017, 10:14:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ats1rk on August 01, 2017, 10:04:55 PM ---This is where you are wrong. She didn't report a negative experience, she added in that the reader was "lying" on purpose and other shit. She has literally no way of knowing if it was that OR simply a mistake. And these same people go on threads of trusted readers who have worked for others and call them fake. It's old, tired, and illogical. So i point it out, and out they come, making themselves look even more bitter and showing everyone their true lack of sound judgement. 😊
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But you don't know that either anymore than she does. Why can't she say the reader was lying, just like you can say the reader wasn't? How much more proof do you have, that she doesn't? It's two different extremes, hanging out on different ends. It's like driving a nail through a brick wall and it's very frustrating and it's so unnecessary.
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I agree, it's very frustrating to try to read about others experiences and have to hear them state their opinion like it's fact. I personally don't think you should attack readers and accuse them of horrendous things and smear their name with, as you said, no proof. I think that's much more of a terrible thing to do than to call someone out on doing so. This reader has been nice and helpful to ME, and obviously she's not going to work for everyone, but that doesn't give anyone the right to attack them with zero proof. So my initial comment was just a reminder of that, and of course the negative swarm came. Same story every thread. Same people every thread. They like to take out their fails on readers or posters or whoever they can. It's quite sad.
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OK, but where is the fact that these are false accusations though? No reviewer has to share exactly what happened in their personal life in order to determine and post on the board that the reader was malicious and lying. Sorry, thats not a requirement folks. Just like all the contact predictions that Ats posted that came true, could very well be lies to promote readers. Where does one draw the line and just read a review for what it is---a stranger posting on the internet that you don't know and you can't verify anything they have posted? If you are so agitated by this, just try whoever you want to try and come to your own conclusions, regardless of what anyone else has posted. Simple right?
bstalling:
--- Quote from: ats1rk on August 01, 2017, 11:08:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on August 01, 2017, 11:04:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: member60636366 on August 01, 2017, 11:02:14 PM ---exactly
thanks. An opinion is not a fact
flat out opinion and no proof is just a high flying imagination on wheels
--- Quote from: ats1rk on August 01, 2017, 10:20:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: HornetKick on August 01, 2017, 10:14:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ats1rk on August 01, 2017, 10:04:55 PM ---This is where you are wrong. She didn't report a negative experience, she added in that the reader was "lying" on purpose and other shit. She has literally no way of knowing if it was that OR simply a mistake. And these same people go on threads of trusted readers who have worked for others and call them fake. It's old, tired, and illogical. So i point it out, and out they come, making themselves look even more bitter and showing everyone their true lack of sound judgement. 😊
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But you don't know that either anymore than she does. Why can't she say the reader was lying, just like you can say the reader wasn't? How much more proof do you have, that she doesn't? It's two different extremes, hanging out on different ends. It's like driving a nail through a brick wall and it's very frustrating and it's so unnecessary.
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I agree, it's very frustrating to try to read about others experiences and have to hear them state their opinion like it's fact. I personally don't think you should attack readers and accuse them of horrendous things and smear their name with, as you said, no proof. I think that's much more of a terrible thing to do than to call someone out on doing so. This reader has been nice and helpful to ME, and obviously she's not going to work for everyone, but that doesn't give anyone the right to attack them with zero proof. So my initial comment was just a reminder of that, and of course the negative swarm came. Same story every thread. Same people every thread. They like to take out their fails on readers or posters or whoever they can. It's quite sad.
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OK, but where is the fact that these are false accusations though? No reviewer has to share exactly what happened in their personal life in order to determine and post on the board that the reader was malicious and lying. Sorry, thats not a requirement folks.
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She doesnt need to share that because its not proof. Its emotion and lashing out because predictions didnt happen. If she would have just said her experience that would be one thing, but she attacked the reader nastily and left people who come to read the reviews thinking this reader is some kind of a monster, when many others have said how nice she is. How does that help anyone? Let me help you, it doesnt. Thats exactly the problem. Its the same thing over and over again here, it's not a review when you add in shit that you have no way of knowing, but because youre upset, you state it like fact.
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YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF THIS! YOU DONT KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT IS BASED ON EMOTION OR HER LASHING OUT UNCONTROLABLY! YOU DONT HAVE THE PROOF OF THIS ats1rk1! THAT IS YOUR OPINION OF HER REVIEW MASQUERADING AS FACT. ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, YOU ARE BEING JUST AS BAD AS SHE IS.
LOGIC SAYS SINCE YOU HAVE NO PROOF, YOU SHOULD JUST LEAVE THE REVIEWS ALONE AND NOT ATTACK ANYONE THAT LEAVES A REVIEW. BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT THEY ARE MAKING NASTY ACCUSATIONS--THATS JUST YOUR STRONGLY HELD OPINION. NOT FACT!
member60636366:
it's like driving a nail through Jello on a wall
--- Quote from: HornetKick on August 01, 2017, 10:19:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: bstalling on August 01, 2017, 10:08:40 PM ---I think a straight tarot card reader can say basically the same thing that a clairvoyant can, just in a different limited way. For example, Miss Ann did a reading for me
a while back. It was pertaining to me importing and exporting some goods. She said to me "Watch who you work with on this, there is deception and cheating here on your suppliers end that you are not aware of (7 of swords/ The Fool), but you will catch him and it will resolve itself (Knight of swords/Nine of Cups".
Now, as a client, I'm thinking that maybe this will come up later because everything was going good. A week or so later, I think it was Princess Petie that said something like "The Asian man you work with, he is lying about something in the contract or deceiving you about something concerning the patent on the products you are buying".
Now, both readers basically said the same thing, but Miss Ann didnt know my supplier was Asian and what exactly would happen in the situation. Both were specific enough and said the same thing, yet Princess Petie totally fleshed it out for me. It did happen as both said and it did resolve itself when I caught him, by the way.
I mean, I understand why people would prefer the clairvoyant instead of the tarot reading.
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K. I get what you're saying now about limited information. One is below water and one is above, with the below water being deeper. This is one of the reasons I get multiple readings on the same subject until I find an explanation that speaks to me. Every reader has a different approach and a different perspective, on what they interpret. Just like everyone having their own opinions on a similar subject.
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member60636366:
bstalling
« Reply #186 on: Today at 02:37:52 PM »
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"I do agree that the arguing should stop. Let everyone share their review and skip it if you don't agree with it. Remember, we were not there to determine what actually happened..so for the sake of peace, just mumble to yourself and share your own experience, which is something you can validate."
--- Quote from: bstalling on August 01, 2017, 11:04:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: member60636366 on August 01, 2017, 11:02:14 PM ---exactly
thanks. An opinion is not a fact
flat out opinion and no proof is just a high flying imagination on wheels
--- Quote from: ats1rk on August 01, 2017, 10:20:16 PM ---
--- Quote from: HornetKick on August 01, 2017, 10:14:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: ats1rk on August 01, 2017, 10:04:55 PM ---This is where you are wrong. She didn't report a negative experience, she added in that the reader was "lying" on purpose and other shit. She has literally no way of knowing if it was that OR simply a mistake. And these same people go on threads of trusted readers who have worked for others and call them fake. It's old, tired, and illogical. So i point it out, and out they come, making themselves look even more bitter and showing everyone their true lack of sound judgement. 😊
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But you don't know that either anymore than she does. Why can't she say the reader was lying, just like you can say the reader wasn't? How much more proof do you have, that she doesn't? It's two different extremes, hanging out on different ends. It's like driving a nail through a brick wall and it's very frustrating and it's so unnecessary.
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I agree, it's very frustrating to try to read about others experiences and have to hear them state their opinion like it's fact. I personally don't think you should attack readers and accuse them of horrendous things and smear their name with, as you said, no proof. I think that's much more of a terrible thing to do than to call someone out on doing so. This reader has been nice and helpful to ME, and obviously she's not going to work for everyone, but that doesn't give anyone the right to attack them with zero proof. So my initial comment was just a reminder of that, and of course the negative swarm came. Same story every thread. Same people every thread. They like to take out their fails on readers or posters or whoever they can. It's quite sad.
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OK, but where is the fact that these are false accusations though? No reviewer has to share exactly what happened in their personal life in order to determine and post on the board that the reader was malicious and lying. Sorry, thats not a requirement folks. Just like all the contact predictions that Ats posted that came true, could very well be lies to promote readers. Where does one draw the line and just read a review for what it is---a stranger posting on the internet that you don't know and you can't verify anything they have posted? If you are so agitated by this, just try whoever you want to try and come to your own conclusions, regardless of what anyone else has posted. Simple right?
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bstalling:
None of that is proof that the reviewer is being malicious and hurling nasty attacks. None of it is proof.
Goodnight folks...its clear that some people have more issues than Vogue....its clear this board has been infiltrated by readers
or clients that can't let go. Have a good evening and remember to report off/topic or antagonizing posts to the moderator. Maybe a few quick bannings
will provide more peace on this board.
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