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Readings by Penelope.
charlyelly:
I was just going off of what you said. You said you asked for her opinion not that she offered it without asking. You literally said that. so clearly you must have already known yourself that you would get an opinion since you asked for it.
--- Quote from: mo45 on March 22, 2017, 12:54:10 PM ---I agree, readers need to keep their personal opinion out altogether... For Penelope in particular, please just never tell her your story.
--- Quote from: stargazer on March 22, 2017, 06:20:05 AM ---which is why readers need to keep their opinion OUT of the reading. just relay the message. period.
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copperhead:
--- Quote from: charlyelly on March 22, 2017, 08:20:03 PM ---all I am saying is that tarot is not a guessing game
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Yes, it is. It is a refined 'guessing' game. You need to know the meaning of the cards but each card has so many different possible interpretations based on the position they come in the spread, what type of spread, etc., that it's absolutely necessary to have excellent intuition and lots of practice to get the most fit and best interpretation. It also helps the reader to have a little bit of a background.
Outcomes in tarots are possibilities - Many serious tarots readers don't do predictions.
Best use of tarots is for guidance and understanding. It's a tool for the present (or understand the past).
Those who care more about predictions should use tarots readers.
charlyelly:
I was actually agreeing with you and saying that it's not a guessing game for a skilled intuitive or psychic reader, they are going above and beyond the meaning of the cards as written in the books. Thats why I think you SHOULD tell a tarot reader your story because its a collaborative process where they give you insight into your situation. She said she would never have mentioned something totally random that came through for her because it didn't make sense until I mentioned something in my story and then it made sense. It was a blue dog and she picked it up intuitively but it was when I told her what the blue dog referenced that she was able to make all the puzzle pieces fit and understand what the cards were saying. The psychic hit of "doggy blue" came from somewhere else, from wherever this info comes from. Not from the cards but the cards wrapped a story around it that was specific to me. Don't know if that made sense. Same cards for someone else would mean something else and a good reader can tell their story to them.
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--- Quote from: charlyelly on March 22, 2017, 08:20:03 PM ---all I am saying is that tarot is not a guessing game
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Yes, it is. It is a refined 'guessing' game. You need to know the meaning of the cards but each card has so many different possible interpretations based on the position they come in the spread, what type of spread, etc., that it's absolutely necessary to have excellent intuition and lots of practice to get the most fit and best interpretation. It also helps the reader to have a little bit of a background.
Outcomes in tarots are possibilities - Many serious tarots readers don't do predictions.
Best use of tarots is for guidance and understanding. It's a tool for the present (or understand the past).
Those who care more about predictions should use tarots readers.
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copperhead:
--- Quote from: charlyelly on March 23, 2017, 05:04:47 AM ---I was actually agreeing with you and saying that it's not a guessing game for a skilled intuitive or psychic reader, they are going above and beyond the meaning of the cards as written in the books. Thats why I think you SHOULD tell a tarot reader your story because its a collaborative process where they give you insight into your situation. She said she would never have mentioned something totally random that came through for her because it didn't make sense until I mentioned something in my story and then it made sense. It was a blue dog and she picked it up intuitively but it was when I told her what the blue dog referenced that she was able to make all the puzzle pieces fit and understand what the cards were saying. The psychic hit of "doggy blue" came from somewhere else, from wherever this info comes from. Not from the cards but the cards wrapped a story around it that was specific to me. Don't know if that made sense. Same cards for someone else would mean something else and a good reader can tell their story to them.
--- Quote from: copperhead on March 22, 2017, 08:59:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: charlyelly on March 22, 2017, 08:20:03 PM ---all I am saying is that tarot is not a guessing game
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Yes, it is. It is a refined 'guessing' game. You need to know the meaning of the cards but each card has so many different possible interpretations based on the position they come in the spread, what type of spread, etc., that it's absolutely necessary to have excellent intuition and lots of practice to get the most fit and best interpretation. It also helps the reader to have a little bit of a background.
Outcomes in tarots are possibilities - Many serious tarots readers don't do predictions.
Best use of tarots is for guidance and understanding. It's a tool for the present (or understand the past).
Those who care more about predictions should use tarots readers.
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Yes, totally agree
mo45:
@Copperhead, your post on Present being accurate but the outcome not having manifested is appreciated..knowing the present might be helpful for some situations but personally for me, outcome does matter the most..
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--- Quote from: SunshineChick22 on March 22, 2017, 03:41:57 PM ---Regardless of the fact that she changed her predictions for and was inconsistent, she was incorrect in her predictions on both accounts. I'm not bashing her, not every reader is for every person. Not every person is going to have success with every reader. Nothing personal against her, I just don't like getting flip flopped predictions after a reader asks questions and you give them more information.
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I had two readings with Penelope. Her perspective helped me a lot on two situations, one romantic and one work related. She nailed the present and past surroundings and her advice, mostly on the job situation, helped me made a decision. Predictions in the first reading didn't happen. In the second, who knows, they don't concern me and she didn't give me a time frame (she basically predicted that my ex and his current love interest will break up badly).
So, I wouldn't use Penelope for outcomes, I don't think it's her strength, but in my opinion she's phenomenal in presenting what's going on and clarifying the situation so that we can take our best course of action.
After all, this also how tarot cards work the best: as suggestions, psychological support and foundation, clarifications, tools to guide our own free wills.
Don't ask tarots what will happen but what you should do in order to go where you'd like to be.
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